tent-transprt-msg- 12/26/01 Suggestions for transporting tents and pavilions. NOTE: See also the files: SCA-transport-msg, pavilions-msg, p-tents-msg, tent-setup-msg, tent-alt-msg, tent-sources-msg, tent-ps-msg, tent-dsguises-msg, tent-interior-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ From: Andrew Tye Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: transporting pavillions Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:22:29 -0700 Organization: Oregon Public Networking On Thu, 10 May 2001, Andrea Gideon wrote: > We just got a 16x16 Four Seasons Mitered Corner tent but haven't figured > out how to transport it yet. I'd be interested in hearing ideas from > other people who have small cars. Ours is a Saturn. Is our only option > to get a small trailer (priced between $400 and $600 in my area)? Ivar here, When I first got my Tentsmiths French Bell 11 years ago, I had a Toyota sedan. The poles for this tent comprise two 10' 3" x 3"s, one 9' 2x10, and four 7' 2x2s. The solution that I used, (and continue to use with a small truck), is a demountable roof rack. There are several varieties available. Most have a maximum load of 100 lbs. Some have more. The one I use is comprised of four brackets and two 2x4s that I have covered with carpet remnants. For lashing the poles down I use two 100' lengths of 100 lb. test braided cotton rope. Hemp would be stronger but as my poles are painted, I use the softer cotton to avoid damage to the finish. I have seen others use a variety of bungie cords. Putting the roof rack on and lashing everything down properly takes me about 25 minutes. For me, this is much less onerous than having to drive with a trailer and it allows me to use full length of wood rather than sectioned. I hope this is of some use, Ivar Hakonarson Crosston, West. From: thurman Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: transporting pavillions Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:30:56 -0400 I have a Ford Festiva and a 12' x 14' wall tent. ten 5' poles, two 8.5' poles, and a two section roof beam. Each section is 8' long. I bought a Ford Festiva roof rack on Ebay for $46 delivered. It mounts permanently. I did the job myself in about 2 hours. All of the poles and the tent go on the rack, and nothing overhangs. From: theducks at best.com (Steve Urbach) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: transporting pavillions Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:13:58 GMT On Sat, 12 May 2001 20:50:29 -0500, "Y2k_knight" wrote: >I'm assuming the price on a small trailer is for new, have you considered >used? Check the Nickel Ad's, also check online. You might find someone >nearby that has placed an ad on the 'net'. If you go the trailer route, AVOID those trailers with 8 inch rims if you drive any distance at highway speeds. They are prone to both bearing and tire failures (at 65 they are really spinning like crazy). I would recommend 13 inch as a minimum if you drive long and fast or heavy. NEVER overload your trailer, your life is not worth the additional risks. Working trailer brakes are a real good thing, especially with small tow vechicles. Derek , _ , | \ Steve Urbach , | )erek , ____|_/ragonsclaw theducks at JbUeNsKt.com , / / / get rid of the J U N K From: wbfountain at aol.comnospam (Wm. Bryan Fountain) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Date: 13 May 2001 22:34:58 GMT Subject: Re: transporting pavillions I used to have a festiva - my solution was a small traveling salesmans utility trailer 4'x 4' with two large black plastic tool boxes mounted on top - the spears and poles fit on a rack diagonally across the sides tilting upwards - worked great. The trailer even did the unthinkable - even fully loaded and going uphill, - it increased my fuel mileage by about 2 mph.(due to wind resistance / drag) I know it isn't logical - but it happened - think of the aerodynamics of a flat backed vehicle compared to a sloped rear. Ld Brun Canutteson - resident of the Midlands - (Midrealm) Proud Seige Engineer & Member of House VonBrandenburg MKA - Wm. Bryan Fountain Asst. Professor of Industrial Technology Sauk Valley Community College Dixon, IL From: ~^V^~ Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: transporting pavillions Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:57:34 -0400 Andrea Gideon wrote: > We just got a 16x16 Four Seasons Mitered Corner tent but haven't figured > out how to transport it yet. I'd be interested in hearing ideas from > other people who have small cars. Ours is a Saturn. Is our only option > to get a small trailer (priced between $400 and $600 in my area)? > > Giovanna Many years ago, we went to Sears and purchased at set of roof racks for a really reasonable price. I don't remember if Saturns have rain gutters or not, but you can find places that sell roofracks for things like bikes and kayaks that will generally come in for less than a $400-600 asking price. That and one of those $30-40 softsided roof bags and you'll have the tent no longer in the car at all, plus possibly space to put additional cargo. Flaxy, whose other life has a big kayak in it. Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: whheydt at kithrup.com (Wilson Heydt) Subject: Re: transporting pavillions Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:23:12 GMT Andrew Tye wrote: >There are several varieties available. Most have a maximum load of 100 >lbs. Some have more. The one I use is comprised of four brackets and two >2x4s that I have covered with carpet remnants. For lashing the poles down >I use two 100' lengths of 100 lb. test braided cotton rope. Hemp would be >stronger but as my poles are painted, I use the softer cotton to avoid >damage to the finish. I have seen others use a variety of bungie cords. Cotton is a very poor choice for line to lash down a top load. Much better to use nylon. Use the natural stretch of the line to tension it. It's also easier if you use two ro three shorter pieces in place of a single long line. -- Hal Ravn Hal Heydt Mists, Mists, West Albany, CA From: Jeni Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: transporting pavillions Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:07:09 GMT > Many years ago, we went to Sears and purchased at set of roof racks for a > really reasonable price. I don't remember if Saturns have rain gutters or > not, but you can find places that sell roofracks for things like bikes and > kayaks that will generally come in for less than a $400-600 asking price. > That and one of those $30-40 softsided roof bags and you'll have the tent > no longer in the car at all, plus possibly space to put additional cargo. > > Flaxy, whose other life has a big kayak in it. Don't know if this is a practical option for you, but we recently got roof racks for our Buick Century for $20 at a u-pull-it junk yard. For strapping, we're using ratcheting straps (nylon, I think) which we got at a flea market for about $5 each. Even brand new, they're pretty reasonable (don't think I've seen them run more than $10), and will last longer than ropes. I don't know how well they'd do for poles, though. We've been transporting three 6' long plastic tables and a 5' wooden rack with this set-up, and it's very sturdy. -- Cecilia. From: "ruadh" Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: transporting pavillions on/in small cars Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:11:03 GMT why not put the tent roll on the trunk surface, as its metal on those Saturns. "Roof Racks" for the trunk are also sold. And since one of the first thing to do after arriving on site, [Troll and Potty = others] is to Set the tent. You won't need much stuffings that maybe in the trunk. Now the weight of the highest things is the poles, and reduces wind loading. Edited by Mark S. Harris tent-transprt-msg Page 4 of 4