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Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. \par \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s17\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid12667191 \rtlch\fcs1 \af6\afs20\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid12667191 \rtlch\fcs1 \af7\afs24\alang1033 \ltrch\fcs0 \f7\fs24\lang1033\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp1033\langfenp1033 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 \par I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. \par \par The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. \par \par Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). \par \par Thank you, \par Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous \par Stefan at florilegium.org \par ************************************************************************ \par \par From: daniel_t at gate.net (Daniel Tartaglia) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Help-Getting mold off tents. \par Date: 5 Sep 1994 23:58:35 GMT \par \par Our tent got soaked and we didn't do the right thing. Because of our \par sloth, our walls now have spots of mold all over them. I used some bleach \par on them which killed the mold but the spots remain. \par \par Does anybody know of a product/method of getting mold off of canvas? \par \par Ld. Nicolas Bradwater \par \par \par From: marisla at aol.com (Marisla) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: Help-Getting mold off tents. \par Date: 5 Sep 1994 21:39:09 -0400 \par \par Rinse your tent off immediately w/ lots of water. The bleach if not \par rinsed completely will eat right thru the tent. Ammonia solution should \par remove most of the mold. But start first w/ liquid soap and a stiff \par brush. If that doesn't work, ammonia and then lots of hot sun as sun is a \par natural bleach. - Marisela \par \par \par From: alisounf at aol.com (AlisounF) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: Help-Getting mold off tents. \par Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:35:01 -0400 \par \par marisla at aol.com (Marisla) writes: \par \par >But start first w/liquid soap and a stiff brush. \par \par Not if the tent is made of certain kinds of sail canvas. Any oil or \par grease, which soap is, will cause the natural water repellancy of the \par canvas to cease. In other words, it may leak. This no soap advice was from \par the maker of my pavillion. \par \par Alisoun Fortescue of Maplehurst \par \par \par From: 00eenepsa at bsuvc.bsu.edu \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: Help-Getting mold off tents. \par Date: 8 Sep 94 11:38:05 -0500 \par Organization: Ball State University \par \par daniel_t at gate.net (Daniel Tartaglia) writes: \par > Our tent got soaked and we didn't do the right thing. Because of our \par > sloth, our walls now have spots of mold all over them. I used some bleach \par > on them which killed the mold but the spots remain. \par \par **Unfortunately, my lord, you've probably ruined your canvas. \par \par Mold begins to eat holes in the fabric and bleach DOES eat holes in the \par the fabric, destroying any waterproof qualities it may have had. \par \par You can remove the stains first with vinegar, and if that doesn't \par work use diluted, powder laundry detergent. You will then need to \par completely re waterproof your tent. Army navy surplus carries a very \par heavy duty paint on waterproofing that will do the trick, but you must \par let the tent stand to air out for a LOOOOOONG time and apply it several \par times. I certainly hope someone has a better suggestion, but in my \par experience, that's about it.> \par :\{ G-frewi \par \par \par From: folo at prairienet.org (F.L. Watkins) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: waterproofing \par Date: 22 Nov 1994 02:44:51 GMT \par Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana \par \par Thompson's waterproofing a) doesn't always work and b) will always \par smell. For a long, long time. \par \par Trust me. \par \par Folo (been there, done that...) \par -- \par Damin de Folo - F.L.Watkins - folo at prairienet.org \par Baron Wurm Wald (MidRealm) - Commander Baldwin's (NWTA) \par \par \par From: david.razler at compudata.com (DAVID RAZLER) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: WaterproofingBetter \par Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 00:09:00 -0400 \par Organization: Compu-Data BBS -=- Turnersville, NJ -=- 609-232-1245 \par \par BM>\tab I've heard of people using stuff like Thompson's Water Seal for \par BM>waterproofing their canvas tents, etc. Your impressions? \par \par The absolute best waterproofing and stainproofing for fabric is \par ScotchGuard(tm) spray - used in much greater quantity than recommended on \par the can. \par \par A half-circle ultra-heavy wool cloak requires a can - which will keep it \par clean and the wearer dry for about four years including five wars worth of \par sitting around the firepit on wet grass. NO GRASS STAINS \par \par The best method of keeping papers safe and dry during an outdoor event: \par \par 1) take one Lands End(tm) original canvas carryall attache or whatever they \par call that bag these days. \par \par 2) Spray inside and out with ScotchGuard. \par \par 3) Take the rest of the war worrying about something else. \par \par Spray the canvas of a director's chair with a good soaking of ScotchGuard. \par Watch the rain. \par When it stops, shake chair a little and sit down dry. \par \par For extra protection, save the Thompson's for WOOD, not fabric. \par \par Of Note: Drycleaning, which your cloak will eventually will need, removes \par ScotchGuard. Buy more and you're good for another half-decade! \par \par NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION: \par Unless you go to a 3M wholesaler and buy ScotchGuard for Fabric in a \par paintcan and apply with an airgun, you will not be able to afford a full \par waterproofing job for a canvas pavillion. Further - if you are going to do \par that job, borrow an air pack or SCUBA gear for the inside coat. Keep a fire \par extinguisher handy, or do the outside, allow to dry, then turn the tent \par inside-out. \par David M. Razler \par (Aleksandr the Traveller doesn't have any idea what this message is about) \par [david.razler at compudata.com] \par \par \par From: dickeney at access2.digex.net (Dick Eney) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: pre-pennsic packing \par Date: 9 Mar 1995 20:20:48 -0500 \par Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA \par \par wrote: \par >entering into the annual pre-pennsic packing frenzy a bit early, i'd like \par >to know: \par >i have a pavillion, 15 x 20. the top is all of a piece, which makes it too \par >large to shove into a washing machine, even the large industrial kinds. \par >the rains last pennsic made this top mildewed. very mildewed. you should \par >have seen the hives i got sitting next to the top on the drive home, it \par >was so mildewed. question: how do i get rid of this much mildew on \par >this large a top? and how do i return the color of the fabric from the \par >mildewy gray to a more natural slightly off white? \par \par First off, you don't wait five months to get started -- however, that's \par irrelevant now. Find a BIG flat space, and on a day when the weather \par report indicates 2-3 days of sunshine spread the thing out, sweep or \par vacuum the grossest of the mildew fungus off. (If you get hives just \par being near it, better use a vacuum.) Then sprinkle or spray it with a \par weak solution of lemon juice (about 2:1) and let that stand in the \par sunlight all day, repeat the next day (maybe a third if you're lucky), \par and on the afternoon of the last day fold it up and bring it in. For \par further details check "Helpful Hints" by almost anybody like Heloise. \par \par |-----Mandarin 2/c Vuong Manh, C.P. (dickeney at access.digex.net)-----| \par \par \par From: djheydt at uclink.berkeley.edu (Dorothy J Heydt) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: pre-pennsic packing \par Date: 10 Mar 1995 02:26:59 GMT \par Organization: University of California, Berkeley \par \par wrote: \par >i have a pavillion, 15 x 20. the top is all of a piece, which makes it too \par >large to shove into a washing machine, even the large industrial kinds. \par >the rains last pennsic made this top mildewed. very mildewed. you should \par >have seen the hives i got sitting next to the top on the drive home, it \par >was so mildewed. question: how do i get rid of this much mildew on \par >this large a top? and how do i return the color of the fabric from the \par >mildewy gray to a more natural slightly off white? \par \par The short answer is, Chlorine bleach. This will not only kill \par the mildew fungi, it will bleach out the stains. The answer is \par lengthened by two considerations: \par \par 1. How to apply the bleach to the fabric, and how to keep it \par from wiping out the local environment. What you need is a large \par flat area on which to lay out the pavilion top and apply the \par bleach, from which the runoff won't run off into any local \par watercourse. I can't tell from your netid where you are located. \par A flat field or vacant lot might work, so long as you can hook up \par a hose to the water supply. Spray or sponge the bleach onto the \par fabric; wait till the stains disappear; and rinse it off with lots \par and lots of water. The bleach will break down after a while, but \par in the meantime you want it to be sufficiently diluted that it \par doesn't kill anything but the mildew. \par \par 2. After that, you will probably want to restore the waterproofing \par to the fabric. How you do this will depend on what the \par waterproofing was in the first place. ScotchGard? Paraffin wax? \par Intrinsically tight weave? Talk to the place that sold you the \par fabric, and/or your local hardware store. \par \par And next time it gets mildewed, don't ride in the same \par compartment with it if you're allergic to it. Next time you \par might stop breathing, and that would never do. \par \par Dorothea of Caer-Myrddin\tab \tab Dorothy J. Heydt \par Mists/Mists/West\tab \tab \tab UC Berkeley \par Argent, a cross forme'e sable\tab \tab djheydt at uclink.berkeley.edu \par PRO DEO ET REGE \par \par \par From: cerdic at mcmi.com (david h corson) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: pre-pennsic packing \par Date: Fri, 10 Mar 95 10:32:03 EST \par Organization: Material Culture Management Inc. \par \par Alban-- \par you might try spreading it out in the back yard--when the weather is \par goint to be decent for a few days, and using a bleach soloution in the \par sprayer on your garden hose. I have used one of those jars like they \par sell for feading your lawn or flowers, with Tilex or Clorex---it seemed \par to work for me..... \par \par Elaina of Oaklawn, Countess, using Lord Cerdic's account \par \par \par From: Wynn Klosky \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: pre-pennsic packing \par Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:12:40 -0700 \par Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research/Boulder, CO \par \par For all those with mildewed tents, I bear tidings...of possible unhappiness. \par \par According to my source at the Denver Tent Company/American Canvas in \par Denver, the first-try cure for mildew is to set up your tent and hit it \par with the hose and a scrubber to see if you can knock it loose that way. \par \par If this does not work, he says as a LAST result, because this may well \par weaken your tent, to try a solution of 3 parts water to \par one part chlorine bleach applied to a corner spot -- scrub it out and \par rinse VERY well as any bleach left in will cause the fabric to deteriorate. \par Allow it to dry THOROUGHLY, and see what the result is before applying to \par your entire affected area. \par \par The bad news, he says, is that if it already has *that* smell, the fabric \par may already be damaged -- he says it will feel brittle and weak in your \par hands. In this case, he says, there is little hope for the recovery of \par your pristine tent. \par \par (This is all assuming a natural canvas tent -- I didn't ask about synthetics) \par \par In any case, he says, you should hose the mildew off as best you can as \par soon as you can to prevent or lessen fabric damage. And let it dry in the \par sun (making sure you've rinsed any Clorox out thoroughly), as evidently \par sunpower has some brightening and beastie-killing effects. \par \par Hope this helps, \par branwynn ottersby \par Caer Galen, the Outlands \par \par \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par From: gyeates at chat.carleton.ca (graham yeates) \par Subject: Re: pre-pennsic packing \par Organization: Carleton University \par Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 23:49:09 GMT \par \par From Lady Helen Who shares her Lord's account, \par \tab \tab \par Alban, \par \tab At A recent practicum (learning event) we had a class on tent \par making from a lady who has made canvas tents all her life (having \par learned the craft at a young age from her mother). Her thoughts on \par Mildew were thus "}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid2442125\charrsid12667191 Prevention is the Best Way". On}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 bringing a wet tent \par home she suggests airing it as well as possible before storing it. \par She suggests the basement or the lawn on the next available sunny day. \par She Continues: \par \tab "Washing with soaps or detergents will usually remove all \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid2442125\charrsid12667191 waterproofing. Perio}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 dically, Dissolve 1/2 cup of baking soda in a \par gallon of warm water. Br}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid2442125\charrsid12667191 ush LIGHTLY into canvas. RINSE}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 ,}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid2442125\charrsid12667191 }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 and let dry \par out. ***For Mildew, put 1/2 cup of javex in a gallon of warm water. \par Brush lightly into canvas, rinse well, let dry in the sun. ***In \par desperation (ONLY), put 1/2 cup soap (NEVER DETERGENTS) in a gallon of \par warm water \{and proceed as above\}. ******THESE LAST 2 TREATMENTS WILL \par PROBABLE TAKE OUT MOST OF THE WATERPROOFING *******" (this is quoted \par verbatim, all uppercase hers) She went on to suggest retreating with \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid2442125\charrsid12667191 Aquatite, a waterproof}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 ing agent. She of the ladies up here have used \par Thompson's Waterseal on their tents with good results too! Good Luck! \par ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \par Graham A. Yeates Carleton University \par And Lady Helen /Helen Dolbey \par Email address: gyeates at chat.carleton.ca \par ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \par \par \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: pre-pennsic packing \par From: una at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk) \par Date: Sat, 11 Mar 95 23:00:42 EST \par \par ALBAN at delphi.COM writes: \par > entering into the annual pre-pennsic packing frenzy a bit early, i'd like \par > to know: \par > i have a pavillion, 15 x 20. the top is all of a piece, which makes it too \par > large to shove into a washing machine, even the large industrial kinds. \par > the rains last pennsic made this top mildewed. very mildewed. you should \par > have seen the hives i got sitting next to the top on the drive home, it \par > was so mildewed. question: how do i get rid of this much mildew on \par > this large a top? and how do i return the color of the fabric from the \par > mildewy gray to a more natural slightly off white? \par > \par > alban, who tries to plan ahead. \par \par \tab Respected friend: \par \tab Large lawn+large stiff brush+large bottle mildicide from Janitor's \par supplies store+large supply elbow grease+large stack of patches+large \par canvas awl+large spool of waxed linen thread= Fixed. \par \tab Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but mildew grows by eating \par the fiber it grows on. You've got that much mildew, you've got holes. \par Brace yourself. \par \par Yours in service to the Society- \par (Friend) Honour Horne-Jaruk R.S.F. \par Alizaunde, Demoiselle de Bregeuf C.O.L. SCA \par Una Wicca (That Pict) \par \par \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par From: shafer at spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) \par Subject: Re: Tent mildew \par Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA \par Date: Wed, 15 Mar 1995 16:56:33 GMT \par \par We've had a lot of rain here in SoCal recently, with a lot of leaky \par roofs, minor flooding, etc. As a result, there are a lot of wet, \par mildewy carpets and furniture and a lot of newspaper articles about \par dealing with these unusual phenomena. \par \par It appears to me that the _easiest_ way to deal with a mildewed tent \par is to take it to a carpet cleaner. Not the kind that comes to your \par house and does steam cleaning, but the kind that can really wash/clean \par the tent in a tank. They have anti-mildew agents and can deal with \par large swaths of fragile wet fabric. Plus, they can scotchguard, if \par that's your chosen form of water repellency. \par \par The next easiest seems to be to consult with such people and get \par supplies from them. \par \par Good luck! \par -- \par Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer at ursa-major.spdcc.com \par URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html \par \par \par From: Peter Valentine \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: Tent design \par Date: 13 Mar 1995 23:16:04 GMT \par \par > Unto the Rialto does Tariq Yazid bid greetings! \par > \par > I seek some assistance in matters tently. Last year, my wife and \par > I stitched a 10' x 20' pavilion for Pennsic. This year it needs \par > to be waterproofed and also we were interested in painting it. \par > Does anyone know of any good references where examples of \par > medieval tents may be found? We'd like to be at least in the \par > neighborhood historically. Also, any ideas on what type of paint \par > or dye should be used? The tent is canvas, and I've done some \par > artwork on denim jackets with fabric paint, but I have a feeling \par > even to do simple piping would be cost-prohibitive to get 50 \par > small jars of fabric paint that's sold in art supply houses. \par > Thirdly, has anyone waterproofed a canvas pavilion? I heard \par > Thompson's water seal works, but is there anything better? \par \par As to the paint, I cannot help, but I did just waterproof a \par Viking Pavilion with 400 sq ft of canvas using a product called \par Surfcoat (or Cerfcoat? can't remember) which I procured through a \par local Camping Supply Store. It cost $20.00/gallon and covers \par ~100 sq/ft per gallon. Be sure to paint your tent first before \par waterproofing! \par \par Wolfgang von Hesse \par Barony March of Mons Tonitras \par \par \par From: "K. Schroeder-Laporte" \par To: ches at tristero.io.com \par CC: h-costume at lunch.engr.sgi.com, ansteorra at eden.com \par Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 \par Subject: Re: Tent cleaning \par \par On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 ches at tristero.io.com wrote: \par > Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get a tent dry cleaned? I no \par > longer have a yard to clean one out on and the cat that is now gone \par > went all over it. What are my options? \par > \par > Ciao at \}\\ \par > Ches at \}----`--,-- http://www.io.com/~ches/ \par > at \}/ \par \par I don't know how old these stains (smells?) are, but people who breed \par animals swear by a product called "Nature's Miracle" for all protein based \par stains. It has an enzyme which actually breaks down the urine/fecal \par matter (or blood or grass, etc.) and doesn't just cover up the problem. I \par am not sure how it will affect your tent fabric, but I have never had any \par problems with it damaging any fiber I've used it on. You'll probably have \par to re-waterproof it after you're done with it, though. \par \par Oh, you can get this stuff in any pet store. It comes in a white bottle \par with red writing. And no, I don't work for the company, I just REALLY \par like the product. \par \par kat \par \par Adelheid von Luebeck \par Acting Arts & Sciences \par College of St. Bunstable \par http://weber.u.washington.edu/~stareyed/bunstable/bunstable.html \par \par \par From: "Maureen Martinez" \par To: h-costume at lunch.engr.sgi.com, ansteorra at eden.com \par Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 \par Subject: Re: Tent cleaning \par \par Ches, \par \par You can take it to a car wash, and use the high pressure hose. However, I \par do caution against using harsh cleaners, or alot of scrubbing as you may \par remove the waterproofing or sealer. (especially when dealing with canvas \par pavillions). \par \par We found out the hard way that you should never really wash pavillions as \par you cannot replace the original water sealing. -- Thompson's water seal \par helps, but is not nearly as effective as pre-treated fabric. \par \par For modren tents, this may not be as big a concern as much of their \par water-proofing comes from the synthetic fabric itself. However, take care \par not to 'wear the fabric too thin'. \par \par I recommend a trying a 'pet deodorizer' which are available at many grocery \par stores and pet supply stores. (You can also get some that have scents to \par keep your cat from repeating the incident!) \par \par Good luck! \par \par Jenny Winslow \par MKA Maureen Martinez \par \par \par From: Renee/Faustyna \par To: ches at tristero.io.com \par CC: h-costume at lunch.engr.sgi.com, ansteorra at eden.com \par Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 \par Subject: Re: Tent cleaning \par \par Dear Ches \par \par I have been in this very predicament. There are a couple of options. Is \par there a friends yard you can use for a day or two? Since I don't know \par waht part of the country you live in you might also look for someones \par garage to set it up in while it has to dry. (Duct tape rocks to the \par points where the pegs would have to be driven into the ground!) \par \par It may be possible to find an industrial type cleaner but check with a \par plAce that rents out large type tents. They have to clean theirs so they \par may clean yours for a fee. \par \par If cleaning it your self remember to use lots of baking soda in the water \par to kill the smell left behind by kitty. \par \par Good luck I hope you find the help. \par Renee/Faustyna \par \par \par Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 23:54:11 -0600 \par From: Dennis and/or Dory Grace \par To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu \par Subject: Re: Pine Tree Sap \par \par Gwenllian Rhys Talbot asked: \par >Anyone have a good recipe or hint as to how you can get pine \par >tree sap out of SCA gear? Leather, tents, clothing, etc... \par > \par >I would like to get it out without damaging the fabrics. \par >Any help will be greatly appreciated :-)) \par \par Try a little oil of melaleuca (tea tree oil). It will leave a residual \par odor, but the odor is fresh and somewhat minty. This stuff is one of the \par best mild, non-polar solvents I've ever found. \par \par lo vostre por vos servir \par Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace \par Bryn Gwlad, Ansteorra \par \par \par From: "Chris K. Hepburn" \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: How to clean a stinky *TENT* \par Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:14:16 -0600 \par Organization: Calgary Community Network Assoc. \par \par Okay, since all of you have such wonderful suggestions on how to clean \par stuff...here's a challenge for you: \par \par I recently cleaned my basement (read: excavated) and discovered one of my \par tents has the unmistakable, pungunt odour of cat urine. I suspect there \par may be a connection to my cat... \par \par Anyway, the tent is that rip stop nylon stuff (including the floor). Is \par there any way to get the urine smell out of it? I've already tried \par "Pine-Sol" but that doesn't seem to be working too well. \par \par If I dunk the entire thing full of bleachy water, will that make the tent \par disintegrate? \par \par Any helpful suggestions would be *vastly* appreciated! \par \par Chris \par \par \par From: aeronstorm at aol.com (Aeronstorm) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: How to clean a stinky *TENT* \par Date: 19 Sep 1998 19:22:12 GMT \par \par Pet stores, Walmart, and some grocery stores have products that are \par enzyme-based that will take care of cat urine. These products don't cover the \par problem with perfume, they break down the components of the urine (and feces, \par blood, etc.). Some of these products will take care of the stain as well as the \par odor. There's also a black-light device that's supposed to show you where \par there's been a deposit. Since cats' and dogs' noses are more sensitive to odor \par than are humans', it's supposed to show you where there are minute traces of \par urine that might attract your animals again and again. I've never tried the \par thing, so don't know how well it works. \par \par One thing not to use is ammonia (a popular, but useless remedy) because it will \par only attract animals. \par \par Ariane \par \par \par Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:29:58 -0700 \par From: Bethany Payne \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: How to clean a stinky *TENT* \par \par REI carries a rip-stop sleeping bag cleaner that I would assume also works on \par rip stop tents. I purchased some after my cat decided to express his \par admiration for my dad -- all over his down sleeping bag. After a quick wash \par in the bathtub with the rip-stop cleaner, the smell is no more. \par \par Ais \par \par \par From: jen-guy at home.com (Jennifer Guy) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: How to clean a stinky *TENT* \par Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:19:57 GMT \par \par On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:14:16 -0600, "Chris K. Hepburn" \par wrote: \par \par >Okay, since all of you have such wonderful suggestions on how to clean \par >stuff...here's a challenge for you: \par > \par >I recently cleaned my basement (read: excavated) and discovered one of my \par >tents has the unmistakable, pungunt odour of cat urine. I suspect there \par >may be a connection to my cat... \par \par My dear kitties have a habit of showing their disapproval of my lord \par on my lord's laundry. A product called "Smells Begone" works \par admirably, about 1/4 c. in the washer in conjunction with the regular \par laundry detergent. \par \par \par From: sewingcntrl at earthlink.net (Elisee du Lyonnais) \par Newsgroups: rec.org.sca \par Subject: Re: How to clean a stinky *TENT* \par Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:49:30 -0500 \par Organization: Merlion's Tail \par \par "Chris K. Hepburn" wrote: \par >Okay, since all of you have such wonderful suggestions on how to clean \par >stuff...here's a challenge for you: \par > \par >I recently cleaned my basement (read: excavated) and discovered one of my \par >tents has the unmistakable, pungunt odour of cat urine. I suspect there \par >may be a connection to my cat... \par > \par >Anyway, the tent is that rip stop nylon stuff (including the floor). Is \par >there any way to get the urine smell out of it? I've already tried \par >"Pine-Sol" but that doesn't seem to be working too well. \par \par I have used several of the enzyme based products, and even had the occasion \par to use them on a rip-stop nylon tent. I soaked it for 2 days in the stuff \par in a inflatable wading pool (this stuff was to stay wet for 24 hours or \par more) and the smell came completely out. It has not seemed to harm the \par tent - I did this 12 years ago and the tent is still in use. In fact, it \par was the only one of our four structures that survived Lilies. \par \par Elisee, who will not adopt more cats when Bill 'n Opus go to the great \par litterbox beyond. \par \par \par From: Chuck and Rhonda Leggett [RLEGGETT at austin.rr.com] \par Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:39 PM \par To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org \par Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] canvas question \par \par > I have an odd question, but figured you all have plenty of experience and \par > answers. \par > \par > What process do you use for canvas pavillions to keep them water proof? \par > \par > Susan the Curious \par > Northkeep \par \par Although there are many good products available to waterproof canvas (and any other) tenting, one of the most common 'traditional' ways was not to bother, but rather to be careful. A good, tightly-woven canvas will almost never leak-as the fibers get wet and swell, they actually will shed water without treatment....as long as no-one touches the fabric. As soon as the fabric is touched by some-one o r something, it initiates a capillary action that runs water through that precise spot like a hole, until the fabric dries and the whole thing starts fresh. (Amusing to see someone draw a picture, or "write" their names into a "waterfall," then realize th at they \par would have to sleep there!) However, for those of us that don't choose to (or have to) rely on just caution, there is another product I've used before, called "Duck's Back," that I haven't seen anyone mention befor}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid2442125\charrsid12667191 e. It may be available at Acade}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12667191\charrsid12667191 my (I don't remember where I got it several years ago), but it comes in a gallon paint can and must be applied like paint (brush, spray, etc.), but it's worth the effort. I used it to waterproof motorcycle gear, and I would ride year-round, regardless of the weather. If you can find it, I'm sure that you'll think it worth the search (and effort). Best of luck to you. \par \par Ever in service. \par Marion du Massue \par House of Brick. \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12924665 \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid12924665 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12924665\charrsid12924665 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:02:04 +0800 \par From: Nathan Bullivant \par Subject: Re: [Lochac] Cleaning big tents \par To: "drakey}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11753559 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12924665\charrsid12924665 internode.on.net" , "The \par \tab Shambles,\tab the\tab SCA Lochac mailing list" \par \par We soak our round pavilion in the pool, its just like a giant washing machine. \par \par Nathan \par \par On Wed 13/05/09 2:13 PM , Admin His}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12924665 toric kit}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11753559 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12924665 historicevents.com.au }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid12924665\charrsid12924665 sent: \par <<< Does anyone know where I can get a big bell tent cleaned in \par Melbourne ? \par \par Kit Houston >>> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid12667191 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939 \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri-980\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\rin-980\lin0\itap0\pararsid11425939 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 From: Pat McGregor \par Date: August 26, 2010 4:45:44 PM CDT \par To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad \par Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Waterproofing Canvas \par \par There is also a world of good info here: \par \par http://midtown.net/dragonwing/waterproofing.htm \par \par siobhan m. \par \par \par Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:27:11 -0400 \par From: Siegfried \par To: Highland Foorde \par Cc: andrew.ladner}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid271412 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 gmail.com, Merry Rose \par Subject: Re: [MR] Fwd: [HF] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par Ahh, welcome to a common discussion. Others will disagree with me, but \par I'll give you my own experiences/suggestions: \par \par 1) If the mold is still alive (IE, not dried up and flakey), or just to \par 'make sure', use white vinegar. NOT BLEACH (bleach can break down the \par canvas). Putting it in a spray bottle works well. lightly soak the \par area of the canvas, and leave it laid out on a driveway/etc in the \par bright sun to bake. \par \par 2) Now, to get rid of it, and remove 'some' of the stain, make a \par solution of water & laundry detergent, get down and scrub it well. You \par won't really ever get all of it off, if it was bad, but you'll get close. \par \par ... \par \par As far as 'treating', yes, you can buy canvas waterproofing spray (and \par the anti-fire and anti-mold) ... But it's fairly expensive, and: \par \par One of the benefits of a good canvas tent in the first place, is that \par canvas is naturally water-resistant. No, it doesn't bead up and run \par down. But you don't want it to, if it does, that means it's not \par breathing either. \par \par Instead during the first part of a shower, a light 'mist' will happen \par inside of the tent, and then it will swell up and not let any more water \par in. \par \par (This does assume that you have good quality tight-woven tent canvas, \par and not something more like a painters tarp) \par \par ... \par \par So personally, I haven't found the need for ever re-treating. Yes, you \par can get the fire/mold resistance, but to REALLY get that stuff, the \par fabric needs completely impregnated with it, not just a light coating on \par the outside. So a post-purchase treatment will never be as good as the \par original anyway. \par \par My 2 cents, \par Siegfried \par \par \par Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:49:23 -0700 (PDT) \par From: Alexandria Stratton \par To: Merry Rose , andrew.ladner}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid271412 at }{ \rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 gmail.com \par Subject: Re: [MR] Fwd: [HF] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par Actually, before you put ANY kind of cleaner/sealer on the canvas, set it up and \par let the sun work on it. If it's been packed up for a while, it probably wouldn't \par hurt to give it a good soak with a garden hose (water only). Let it air-dry. \par After a day or two in the hot sun most of the mildew should be sun-bleached out, \par your tent will be aired out, and everything will be all nice & fresh. \par \par If you still have spots that REALLY bother you (it's not going to be spotless \par forever) then you can use something VERY mild like ivory dish soap diluted well \par with water, like a couple of teaspoons per gallon. It's really best not to use \par any kind of chemicals if you can help it. Do NOT use detergents. All that stuff \par will not only remove any protective finish on your canvas, but it will weaken \par the fibers. Let the sun do it's job, that's what it's there for. Among other \par things, of course. :) \par \par To prevent mildew from forming, always make sure your tent is bone dry before \par you pack it up. Even the slightest bit of dampness can fester mildew. If you \par must pack it damp/wet, set it back up as soon as you get home to dry it out. \par \par As for waterproofing... \par Rain falls on the canvas. The fibers absorb the water and swell. This seals out \par the rain. Nature. Ain't it grand? If your tent is made with Sunforger canvas, \par know that the Sunforger is a finish applied in the factory to help with mildew \par resistance, etc. Over the years it will wear off. If you use cleaners or scrub \par spots on the canvas, you will remove the finish. That being said, Use the garden \par hose again. Simulate a good heavy downpour and saturate the tent. This is how \par you can tell if and where it leaks. \par \par If you have leaks, they are most commonly at the seams, where the needle holes \par are. A bit of seam sealer purchased anywhere you find camping supplies will \par work. If you have major leaks elsewhere, then you may want to consider treating \par the whole tent with Canvak. http://www.seattlefabrics.com/waterproofing.html is \par one supplier. \par \par The easiest and most efficient way I have found to apply this to large areas is \par with a garden sprayer. \par \par Remember that canvas is not actually water-proof, but water-repellent. With a \par heavy-enough downpour, you will feel a mist inside your tent even if the canvas \par is brand-new. Generally speaking, we don't usually keep our tents up through \par hurricanes, but there's always the chance a big storm will come through at some \par point so it' good to know, so you don't panic. :) \par \par -- Isabelle LaFar, \par making tents (sporadically) since 1996. \par http://www.HouseBarra.com \par \par \par Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 03:21:59 +0000 \par From: Gina Shelley \par To: \par Subject: Re: [MR] Fwd: [HF] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par You can actually buy gun triggers that fit over spray cans so you don't wear your fingers out spraying your canvas. Painted Wheel uses A LOT of sealant. We like silicone sealant like you buy in sporting goods stores. \par \par I used some Thompson's on the vardo roof once and was not happy with the results. The silicone works better on the type of canvas I have. It's not treated canvas. It's mostly water resistant, but I have to take pains to make sure it's water PROOF since it gets used at Pennsic and you know how the weather is up there. I have protected the top part of the canvas, the place where the r ain really beats down hard, with a strip of plain old tarp in a matching color. You can't even see it up there. But the rest of the canvas, sewn with flat-fell seams, is pretty good on its own with a dose of silicone spray every now and then. \par \par And I've wax ed my seams. I did it one night at Pennsic when the storm was coming down so hard it was shaking the vardo. I was afraid the seams would fail, they were sweating a little (so was I). So I rubbed melted wax and chap stick into them. That might have been a quick fix, but it's turned out to be a good fix. I might spring a leak, but it won't be in the seams. Those suckers are marine grade at this point. \par \par Dulcy \par \par \par Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:42:07 -0400 \par From: "Geffrei Maudeleyne" \par To: \par Subject: Re: [MR] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par Why not to use bleach on cotton canvas tents. \par \par How to really determine poly/cotton content percentages: \par \par Take extremely accurate (down to 4 decimal places) weight of finely shredded \par material. \par Boil such in chlorine beach. (Only do this under industrial chemical vent hood \par using gloves and eye protection and an apron.) \par The cotton totally, absolutely, completely dissolves. (my main point) \par Filter off the bleach. \par Let residual dry. \par Weigh the remaining poly. \par Do the math to compute percentages. Poly percent = poly weight/original weight. \par \par Do not use bleach, at least in any significant quantity on cotton canvas tents, \par especially in the sunshine on a hot day. \par \par Geffrei \par \par \par Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:55:09 +0000 \par From: Gina Shelley \par To: \par Subject: Re: [MR] [HF] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par I believe the formula of Thompson's may well have changed. Back when I first started going to Pennsic, I had a Coleman canvas tent I t reated with Thompson's and it was GREAT. Several years ago, I hit the roof of the vardo with some Thompson's and felt the results were absolutely not what I had in mind. In fact, I felt like I'd made a huge mistake. \par \par Dulcy \par \par \par Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:53:14 -0400 \par From: "David Chessler" \par To: Gina Shelley , \par \tab \par Subject: Re: [MR] [HF] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par <<< I believe the formula of Thompson's may well have changed. Back when I first \par started going to Pennsic, I had a Coleman canvas tent I treated with \par Thompson's and it was GREAT. Several years ago, I hit the roof of the vardo \par with some Thompson's and felt the results were absolutely not what I had in \par mind. In fact, I felt like I'd made a huge mistake. >>> \par \par Thompsons is supposedly formulated for use on concrete. There is a substance \par called CANVAK that is formulated for use on cotton canvas (but not on \par Sunbrella, etc). There is another substance called 303 which is for use on \par plastics and artificial fibres. It prevents solar fading and deterioration, \par and also restores waterproofing. \par \par Googling canvak will get most of these. \par http://www.csctextiles.com/misc.htm \par \par \par Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:07:31 -0700 (PDT) \par From: Alexandria Stratton \par To: atlantia}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid271412 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 atlantia.sca.org \par Subject: Re: [MR] [HF] Canvas Tent Upkeep \par \par Yes, Thompsons Water Seal changed their formula. I think it was sometime around \par 1998. Thompsons was convenient because you could buy it in your local hardware \par store, but Canvak has always been highly recommended and is intended for canvas. \par I'm sure you could use it on an untreated wood deck, but it \par is definitely intended for canvas. \par \par About the only way to get old water seal out of canvas is to wash it in hot \par water in the machine. This requires that pieces be small enough to fit the \par machine, and it will leave a gummy film that has to be cleaned out immediately. \par If you don't get the goo off the machine when it's still damp and pliable, it \par will dry rock-hard and you'll never get it out without a chisel, until you run \par another load of laundry. I do not recommend using a chisel on your washing \par machine...or my mother's...or running a load of laundry with that gunk! \par \par -- Isabelle LaFar \par http://www.HouseBarra.com \par Experience is what you get, when things go awry. \par \par \par Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 01:10:36 +0000 (UTC) \par From: DOLLYMORE}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid271412 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 comcast.net \par To: atlantia}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid271412 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 seahorse.atlantia.sca.org \par Subject: Re: [MR] Canvas tent upkeep \par \par In the camp next to us last Pennsic there was a tent that had been treated with Canvac. Stunk to high heaven and when it rained we could hear the occupants crying, "It's like a shower in here" The tent came down the next day. \par \par I saw the word canvac and had to share. \par \par Bess \par \par \par Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 02:28:19 -0700 (PDT) \par From: Alexandria Stratton \par To: atlantia}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid271412 at }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af6 \ltrch\fcs0 \f6\fs20\insrsid11425939\charrsid11425939 seahorse.atlantia.sca.org \par Subject: Re: [MR] Canvas tent upkeep \par \par <<< In the camp next to us last Pennsic there was a tent that had been treated with Canvac. Stunk to high heaven and when it rained we could hear the occupants crying, "It's like a shower in here" The tent came down the next day. \par \par Bess >>> \par \par I would venture to guess that the issue was the canvas itself. \par \par The very first tent I ever made utilized painters' tarps from home depot, \par because I was a poor college student and did not understand the concept of \par thread count. I treated it with a sealer and it stunk to high heaven until it \par had aired out for a couple of weeks. The first time it rained I may as well \par not bothered having the tent at all. I was in an all-period camp at Pennsic and \par had a bright blue tarp strung up on the inside of my tent. Creative, but I \par survived. \par \par Using a good quality canvas is paramount. The industry standard is 10oz or \par higher. No amount of any kind of treatment will keep your tent from leaking if \par your canvas is poorly woven. As I've mentioned before, when it rains the fibers \par swell and seal out the rain. But if your fibers are not close enough together, \par you may as well have a screen over your head. \par \par A big misconception is that canvas must be treated with something to keep out \par the rain. This is simply not true. Untreated canvas will keep out the rain just \par as well (sometimes better) than non-treated. However, once you add a treatment \par to it, the stuff will prevent the fibers from swelling, because it prevents them \par from absorbing the moisture. If you have a loosely woven canvas to begin with, \par that will just make it worse. \par \par Non-factory treatments have their place. If a tent worked fine for years and is \par loosing its resistance to rain due to sun, wind and age, then Canvak is \par perfectly appropriate and recommended. 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