tent-alt-msg - 3/22/02 ਀ഊAlternatives to tents for SCA events. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: SCA-gates-msg, pavilions-msg, tent-dsguises-msg, thatch-roofs-msg, wattle-daub-msg, buildings-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: meg at tinhat.stonemarche.org (meg) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re:Sleeping at Pennsic (was newbie) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䴀愀礀 㤀㐀  㤀㨀㐀㌀㨀 ㄀ 䔀䐀吀ഊOrganization: Stonemarche Network Co-op ਀ഊMegan here. ਀ഊI sleep on a bed. Well, actually, IN a bed, a shutbed to be precise. It ਀椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 椀渀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 椀昀 渀漀琀 椀渀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀⸀ 吀栀攀 洀愀琀琀爀攀猀猀 椀猀 愀 昀漀愀洀 ഊmattress with eggcrate overlay for extra softness. I cover it with a ਀眀栀椀琀攀 戀攀搀猀栀攀攀琀Ⰰ 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 眀愀爀洀 戀氀愀渀欀攀琀猀 漀昀 栀愀渀搀猀瀀甀渀 栀愀渀搀眀漀瘀攀渀 眀漀漀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ഊoverall a brocaide cloth. My pillow is a feather pillow. I have a window ਀漀渀 洀礀 爀椀最栀琀 眀栀椀挀栀 漀瀀攀渀猀 漀甀琀 愀渀搀 甀瀀 愀猀 愀 猀栀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 䤀 愀洀 氀甀挀欀礀Ⰰ 䔀氀氀椀猀椀昀 ഊplays her gentle dulcimer beneath my window as I wake. When I am unlucky, ਀猀漀洀攀 ⨀㘀砀␀─☀⠀☀砀㨀⬀␀帀℀℀℀ 猀挀漀琀 瀀氀愀礀猀 眀爀攀琀挀栀攀搀 戀愀最瀀椀瀀攀猀⸀ ⠀眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 琀栀椀猀 ഊonly happened once. After what I said to him, I doubt if he'll ever ਀爀攀琀甀爀渀℀⤀ഊON the left I have a curtain which is attached to rings that slide on a ਀搀漀眀攀氀 琀漀 挀氀漀猀攀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 ㌀ 昀漀漀琀 漀瀀攀渀椀渀最 琀漀 洀礀 戀攀搀⸀䄀琀 渀椀最栀琀 䤀 挀氀漀猀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 ഊcurtains, and enjoy the warmth of my cosy bed. It also keeps out the ਀昀氀椀攀猀⸀ ഊAbove my bed is a storage loft. I used to have a young apprentice who ਀猀氀攀瀀琀 甀瀀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ 䈀攀渀攀愀琀栀 洀礀 戀攀搀 椀猀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 愀爀攀愀Ⰰ 挀甀爀琀愀椀渀攀搀 漀昀昀 猀漀 ഊyou can't see the refrigerator where I hide my medications... ਀ഊAlso, in the bed compartment are shelves. The ones you can see from ਀漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀瀀愀爀琀洀攀渀琀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 ഊhold mundane necessities. The ones you can't see have the bug spray, the ਀洀愀琀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 愀氀愀爀洀 挀氀漀挀欀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 攀洀攀爀最攀渀挀礀 昀氀愀猀栀氀椀最栀琀⸀ 䤀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀渀最 洀礀 栀愀琀 漀渀 ഊa peg on the wall above my feet. ਀伀甀琀猀椀搀攀 洀礀 戀攀搀Ⰰ 栀愀渀最椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀 欀攀攀瀀 愀渀 漀爀椀渀愀氀攀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 愀渀礀 猀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 ഊperson. ਀ഊG'night all! ਀ഊBTW, when it rains really hard, I close my window and go back to sleep. ਀ഊMegan ਀㴀㴀 ഊIn 1994: Linda Anfuso ਀䤀渀 琀栀攀 䌀甀爀爀攀渀琀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䄀最攀猀㨀 䴀攀最愀渀 渀椀 䰀愀椀渀攀 搀攀 䈀攀氀氀攀 刀椀瘀攀  ഊIn the SCA, Inc: sustaining member # 33644 ਀ഊ YYY YYY ਀洀攀最 愀琀 琀椀渀栀愀琀⸀猀琀漀渀攀洀愀爀挀栀攀⸀漀爀最      簀  夀夀夀夀夀  簀ഊ |____n____| ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀攀最 愀琀 琀椀渀栀愀琀⸀猀琀漀渀攀洀愀爀挀栀攀⸀漀爀最 ⠀洀攀最⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 刀攀㨀匀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 ⠀眀愀猀 渀攀眀戀椀攀⤀ഊDate: Tue, 24 May 94 02:11:42 EDT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀琀漀渀攀洀愀爀挀栀攀 一攀琀眀漀爀欀 䌀漀ⴀ漀瀀ഊ ਀䬀䜀伀刀䴀䄀一 愀琀 䄀刀吀匀倀䄀匀⸀眀愀琀猀琀愀爀⸀甀眀愀琀攀爀氀漀漀⸀挀愀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀㸀 䔀礀爀渀礀Ⰰ 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 漀渀 䴀攀最愀渀✀猀 戀攀搀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䜀攀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 渀攀攀搀 愀 琀攀渀琀 愀渀礀 洀漀爀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 ഊ> bed! ਀㸀 ഊ> But how do you transport the thing? ਀㸀 ഊ> Eyrny ਀ഊMegan again. Oops, sorry, I forget that there are folks here on the ਀戀爀椀搀最攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀琀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀ 䄀 戀爀椀攀昀 攀砀瀀氀愀渀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 椀渀 漀爀搀攀爀 ഊhere. ਀䤀 最漀琀 琀椀爀攀搀 漀昀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 椀渀 愀 琀攀渀琀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 氀攀愀欀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 琀漀漀 挀漀氀搀 愀琀 渀椀最栀琀Ⰰ ഊto hot by day, the are dank, they blow over in 60 mph winds, and artwork ਀樀甀猀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 猀愀昀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊI built a house. A 14 foot long little house, mounted on a flatbed ਀琀爀愀椀氀攀爀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 洀礀 瘀愀渀 戀甀琀 渀漀眀 氀椀瘀攀猀 瀀攀爀洀愀渀愀渀琀氀礀 愀琀 ഊCooper's lake. It was so wonderful that now my husband built his own ਀琀栀攀爀攀 琀漀 栀漀甀猀攀 栀椀猀 琀漀礀 猀栀漀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 昀爀椀攀渀搀猀 漀昀 漀甀爀猀 戀甀椀氀琀 愀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 ഊcan be disassembled and transported in the back of a school bus. ਀䠀漀甀猀攀猀⸀⸀⸀琀栀攀 眀愀瘀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀甀琀甀爀攀⸀ ഊActually,and I may have posted this trivia before....there is good ਀瀀爀攀挀攀搀攀渀琀 昀漀爀 眀栀愀琀 眀攀 愀爀攀 搀漀椀渀最⸀  吀栀攀 洀攀琀栀漀搀椀猀琀 挀愀洀瀀最爀漀甀渀搀 愀琀 伀愀欀 䈀氀甀昀昀猀 ഊon Martha's Vineyard started out as a tent city like Pennsic, with ਀洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀 最爀漀甀瀀 洀攀攀琀椀渀最 攀愀挀栀 猀甀洀洀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 愀搀搀攀搀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 猀椀搀攀猀 ഊto their tents for stability in bad weather, like Aelfwine's house. Then ਀琀栀攀礀 爀漀漀昀攀搀 琀栀攀 栀漀甀猀攀猀 漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 愀搀搀攀搀 瀀漀爀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 戀攀挀愀洀攀 瀀攀爀洀愀渀攀渀琀 ഊstructures. This evolution took place over 2 generations. I guess as we ਀最攀琀 漀氀搀攀爀Ⰰ 眀攀 眀椀氀氀 眀愀渀琀 漀甀爀 挀爀攀愀琀甀爀攀 挀漀洀昀漀爀琀猀 洀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 栀漀甀猀攀 椀猀 愀 洀漀搀攀氀 爀漀甀最栀氀礀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 琀攀洀瀀漀爀愀爀礀 昀愀椀爀 挀愀戀椀渀猀 ഊerected at the Lyons Fair in the 15-16 centuries. Claus's is a model of a ਀匀挀愀渀搀椀渀愀瘀椀愀渀 栀漀甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀氀礀 ㄀㘀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀ 圀攀 猀氀攀攀瀀 愀渀搀 洀攀爀挀栀愀渀琀 漀甀琀 ഊof our houses. The wheels are disguised with boxes, and the bases are ਀昀爀愀洀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 昀愀欀攀 戀爀椀挀欀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 瀀愀猀猀攀猀 琀栀攀 ㄀  昀漀漀琀 琀攀猀琀Ⰰ 椀昀 猀甀昀昀椀挀椀攀渀琀氀礀 ഊaugmented with barrels, boxes, plants, etc. ਀䤀 愀氀猀漀 瀀氀愀渀琀 愀 最愀爀搀攀渀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀漀猀攀 戀甀猀栀攀猀 ⠀洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀 椀猀 ഊfrom a slip belonging to Henry VIII's mother) lillies, medicinal herbs, ਀搀礀攀猀琀甀昀昀猀Ⰰ 瀀椀渀欀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 栀攀搀最攀 昀攀渀挀攀⸀ 䔀愀挀栀 礀攀愀爀 眀攀 愀搀搀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 渀攀眀⸀ 䰀愀猀琀 ഊyear we added a porch to the toyshop and a mullet glass window to my ਀栀漀甀猀攀⸀ ഊ ਀䤀 昀椀最甀爀攀 椀琀 琀栀椀猀 眀愀礀⸀⸀⸀猀漀洀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 猀瀀攀渀搀 琀栀漀甀猀愀渀搀猀 攀愀挀栀 礀攀愀爀 漀渀 瘀愀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 ഊanyway...we have our vacation one step further: we not only escape from ਀漀甀爀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 樀漀戀猀Ⰰ 眀攀 攀猀挀愀瀀攀 昀爀漀洀 漀甀爀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 猀攀氀瘀攀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀䴀攀最愀渀Ⰰ 眀愀爀洀 愀渀搀 搀爀礀 戀礀 渀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 挀漀漀氀 愀渀搀 猀栀愀搀攀搀 戀礀 搀愀礀⸀ 䰀椀昀攀 椀猀 最漀漀搀⸀ഊPigs still don't fly, tho' ;-) ਀㴀㴀 ഊIn 1994: Linda Anfuso ਀䤀渀 琀栀攀 䌀甀爀爀攀渀琀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䄀最攀猀㨀 䴀攀最愀渀 渀椀 䰀愀椀渀攀 搀攀 䈀攀氀氀攀 刀椀瘀攀  ഊIn the SCA, Inc: sustaining member # 33644 ਀ഊ YYY YYY ਀洀攀最 愀琀 琀椀渀栀愀琀⸀猀琀漀渀攀洀愀爀挀栀攀⸀漀爀最      簀  夀夀夀夀夀  簀ഊ |____n____| ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀愀戀㈀ 愀琀 猀琀氀⸀猀琀挀⸀挀漀⸀甀欀 ⠀䨀攀渀渀椀昀攀爀 䄀渀渀 䈀爀愀礀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 刀攀㨀匀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 ⠀眀愀猀 渀攀眀戀椀攀⤀ഊDate: 25 May 94 13:30:00 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 匀吀䌀 吀攀挀栀渀漀氀漀最礀 䰀琀搀⸀Ⰰ 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 刀漀愀搀Ⰰ 䠀愀爀氀漀眀Ⰰ 唀䬀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䄀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ愀渀搀 䤀 洀愀礀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 琀爀椀瘀椀愀 戀攀昀漀爀攀⸀⸀⸀⸀琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 最漀漀搀 ഊ>precedent for what we are doing. The methodist campground at Oak Bluffs ਀㸀漀渀 䴀愀爀琀栀愀✀猀 嘀椀渀攀礀愀爀搀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 漀甀琀 愀猀 愀 琀攀渀琀 挀椀琀礀 氀椀欀攀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 ഊ>members of their group meeting each summer. Then they added wooden sides ਀㸀琀漀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀攀渀琀猀 昀漀爀 猀琀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 椀渀 戀愀搀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 䄀攀氀昀眀椀渀攀✀猀 栀漀甀猀攀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 ഊ>they roofed the houses over, added porches, and they became permanent ਀㸀猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀猀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 攀瘀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀 琀漀漀欀 瀀氀愀挀攀 漀瘀攀爀 ㈀ 最攀渀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 愀猀 眀攀 ഊ>get older, we will want our creature comforts more and more. ਀ഊI can do you an earlier precedant for buildings replacing tents than ਀琀栀愀琀℀ഊ ਀䤀渀 䤀挀攀氀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀渀渀甀愀氀 氀愀眀 最愀琀栀攀爀椀渀最 漀爀 愀氀氀琀栀椀渀最 眀愀猀 栀攀氀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀ഊspot each year. Vikings came in their longships from far and wide, ਀琀栀攀礀 猀攀琀 甀瀀 琀栀攀椀爀 氀愀爀最攀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 挀愀洀瀀攀搀 漀甀琀 眀栀椀氀猀琀 琀栀攀 愀氀氀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀漀欀ഊplace. ਀ഊWe know where they camped because they left behind stone walls. A roof ਀渀攀攀搀猀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 洀愀椀渀琀攀渀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀眀欀眀愀爀搀 琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀 愀猀ഊthe allthing site didn't have ready supplies of timber. So the vikings ਀戀甀椀氀琀 猀琀漀渀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀猀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 最愀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀ഊmore room than the plain tent would have done, and the tent roof could ਀戀攀 猀攀挀甀爀攀氀礀 愀渀挀栀漀爀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 甀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀攀搀 椀琀ഊto the ship sides when the tents were pitched across the long ships ਀搀攀挀欀猀 愀琀 猀攀愀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀漀欀 瀀氀愀挀攀 愀 洀椀氀氀攀渀椀甀洀 愀最漀Ⰰ 愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 爀攀洀愀椀渀猀 琀漀搀愀礀 椀猀 琀栀攀ഊovergrown walls and the mound where the lawspeaker stood. ਀ഊJennifer/Rannveik ਀ഊVanaheim vikings ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀䠀䄀䴀䤀䰀吀伀一 愀琀 眀猀洀爀ⴀ攀洀栀㠀㄀⸀愀爀洀礀⸀䴀䤀䰀 ⠀䈀爀攀渀琀 刀⸀ 䠀愀洀椀氀琀漀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀猀ഊDate: 4 May 1995 11:34:00 -0400 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀ഊ ਀䄀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 漀昀 洀甀挀栀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 琀漀 匀䌀䄀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 ഊevents, I retired my tent and built myself a small camping trailer. Since ਀琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀洀昀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 愀琀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 洀礀 瀀爀攀ⴀ 愀渀搀 瀀漀猀琀ⴀഊevent prep time is reduced because I leave most of my gear in the trailer ਀戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀⸀  匀攀琀ⴀ甀瀀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀ⴀ搀漀眀渀 琀椀洀攀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 爀攀搀甀挀攀搀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 挀愀渀 瀀甀氀氀ഊinto the site at the usual late hour and have a place to sleep without ਀眀愀欀椀渀最 甀瀀 漀琀栀攀爀 挀愀洀瀀攀爀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀愀琀 瀀漀氀攀 挀氀愀渀最椀渀最 愀渀搀 猀琀愀欀攀 瀀漀甀渀搀椀渀最⸀ഊIts also nice to be able to lock up most of my gear when I'm out fighting ਀攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 愀 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀椀渀最氀礀 洀漀爀攀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀 挀漀渀挀攀爀渀 愀琀 氀愀爀最攀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 眀攀氀氀 猀愀琀椀猀昀椀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀瘀攀渀椀攀渀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最Ⰰഊbut I have given some thought to the impact that we RV types are having ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 挀甀氀琀甀爀攀⸀  圀攀 愀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀渀漀爀椀琀礀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 昀攀眀 ഊcomments that I've had from tent campers have been more like good-natured ਀爀椀戀戀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 洀礀 氀甀砀甀爀椀漀甀猀 氀椀昀攀猀琀礀氀攀 㬀⤀⸀  ഊ ਀䴀礀 爀甀氀攀 漀昀 琀栀甀洀戀 昀漀爀 洀椀渀椀洀椀稀椀渀最 椀洀瀀愀挀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 昀攀攀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀 栀愀猀ഊbeen to hide myself among the vehicles out in the parking lot. Unfortunately, ਀洀漀猀琀 攀瘀攀渀琀 愀甀琀漀挀爀愀琀猀 搀漀渀✀琀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 洀甀挀栀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 琀漀 刀嘀✀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀愀爀欀椀渀最ഊareas are pretty far away from the field, especially when you're carrying ਀愀爀洀漀爀⸀  䘀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀攀猀猀 愀挀挀攀猀猀椀戀氀攀 猀椀琀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 漀渀ഊputting up some of those reed screens and concealing my trailer down ਀愀洀漀渀最 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀  䤀✀洀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 ✀漀甀琀 漀昀 猀椀最栀琀 漀甀琀 漀昀 洀椀渀搀✀ ഊtheory that people use for plastic armor, ice chests etc. I think that this ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀挀挀攀瀀琀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 愀渀礀 愀爀攀愀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀攀 䔀渀挀栀愀渀琀攀搀 䜀爀漀甀渀搀✀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀礀戀漀搀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 琀栀爀漀眀 椀渀 愀渀 漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀㼀  䤀 眀攀氀挀漀洀攀 礀漀甀爀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 漀爀 挀爀椀琀椀挀椀猀洀猀⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀攀愀渀愀椀渀渀 伀✀ 䌀漀椀渀最栀椀漀氀氀愀椀渀 ⠀䐀䤀匀䌀刀䔀䔀吀 刀嘀 栀攀爀攀琀椀挀⤀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 漀樀椀搀⸀眀戀猀琀㠀㐀㔀 愀琀 砀攀爀漀砀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀伀爀椀氀攀攀 䤀爀攀氀愀渀搀ⴀ䐀攀氀昀猀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Pennsic trailers ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 堀攀爀漀砀 䌀漀爀瀀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 圀攀戀猀琀攀爀 一夀ഊDate: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:53:43 GMT ਀ഊOur Baron and Baroness have purchased a small camping trailer ਀琀漀 琀愀欀攀 琀漀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀甀挀栀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀愀椀渀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 琀漀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 漀昀 愀 猀琀漀渀攀ഊcastle, added detachable crenellations to the top as well as ਀昀漀氀搀 漀甀琀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 椀渀 昀爀漀渀琀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 栀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 栀椀琀挀栀 ⠀愀渀搀ഊas a side effect provide some shade to the ends of the trailer). ਀吀栀攀 眀椀渀搀漀眀猀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 ∀氀攀愀搀攀搀∀ 眀椀琀栀 瀀愀椀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀ഊthing looks wonderful! If you go to Pennsic, locate ਀琀栀攀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 吀栀攀猀挀漀爀爀攀 ⠀氀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀攀 爀愀瘀攀渀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 愀猀欀 琀漀ഊsee Devon and Daedra's castle. It's delightful. ਀ഊThe only problem they have now is that our annual camping event in ਀䨀甀氀礀 椀猀 栀攀氀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 愀 最漀爀最攀 椀渀 愀 匀琀愀琀攀 倀愀爀欀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀ഊis no way to get the trailer in there (you either haul your stuff ਀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀琀戀爀椀搀最攀 漀爀 礀漀甀 琀愀欀攀 愀 挀栀愀渀挀攀 眀椀琀栀 礀漀甀爀 猀栀漀挀欀猀 愀渀搀 ഊundercarriage by using the access road - which, if it's wet, could be ਀栀愀稀愀爀搀漀甀猀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 愀 㐀ⴀ眀栀攀攀氀 搀爀椀瘀攀 瘀攀栀椀挀氀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀Ⰰ 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 椀洀愀最椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ愀瀀瀀氀椀攀搀 瀀愀椀渀琀 洀愀礀 栀攀氀瀀ഊyou to "disguise" your trailer. ਀ഊDevon and Daedra say it was worth the effort just to see the looks ਀漀渀 琀栀攀 昀愀挀攀猀 漀昀 漀琀栀攀爀 搀爀椀瘀攀爀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 挀爀甀椀猀攀 琀栀攀 椀渀琀攀爀猀琀愀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀ഊbehind them! ਀ഊOrianna ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 稀愀瀀栀漀搀 愀琀 稀漀漀氀漀最礀⸀甀戀挀⸀挀愀 ⠀䰀愀渀挀攀 刀⸀ 䈀愀椀氀攀礀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 渀漀琀 愀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀 匀䠀䔀䐀℀ഊDate: 23 Apr 1996 02:51:59 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䈀爀椀琀椀猀栀 䌀漀氀甀洀戀椀愀ഊ ਀椀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀猀猀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀 椀搀攀愀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀✀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 昀攀攀搀戀愀挀欀⸀ഊ ਀椀✀瘀攀 猀瀀攀渀琀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 渀椀最栀琀猀 椀渀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 ⠀渀礀氀漀渀⤀ 琀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ ⠀漀爀 愀 氀攀愀渀琀漀 椀渀ഊwinter) and for the sca i instead am thinking of making a house that ਀挀漀洀攀猀 愀瀀愀爀琀⸀ഊ ਀攀愀挀栀 猀椀搀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 猀攀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀㬀 ㌀⸀㔀✀ 戀礀 㘀✀Ⰰ 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 ㈀堀㈀ഊstuds/plates and 1/4" plywood. an 11.5' long wall would thus be 3 ਀猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 戀漀氀琀攀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 愀氀氀 琀栀爀攀攀 琀漀 愀 昀椀渀愀氀 氀漀渀最 ㈀堀㈀ 愀挀琀椀渀最ഊas an additional bottom plate. ਀ഊend walls would be 7 feet long (two sections bolted together) and have ਀愀 猀氀漀瀀攀 戀甀椀氀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 瀀氀愀琀攀 挀爀攀愀琀攀 愀 爀漀漀昀 琀栀愀琀 爀椀猀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 㘀✀ 甀瀀 琀漀ഊ8' over the 3.5' (rise of 30 deg. enough for runoff). ਀ഊthe roof is still up in the air (look, look, a twit wannabee!) but will ਀瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 瀀氀礀眀漀漀搀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 愀 瀀漀氀礀 琀愀爀瀀 昀漀爀 眀愀琀攀爀瀀爀漀漀昀椀渀最ഊand a final layer of a thatch look-alike (straw or burlap or something ਀礀攀琀 琀漀 戀攀 猀甀最最攀猀琀攀搀⤀⸀ 椀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 洀椀最栀琀 琀爀礀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀眀愀礀 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀攀愀洀 昀漀爀 愀ഊridge with some poles for rafters and then the poly followed by ਀搀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀瘀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀攀愀挀栀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 氀椀最栀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 挀愀爀爀礀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 搀漀氀氀礀 漀爀 栀愀渀搀ഊtruck of some sort i could get them into camp pretty quick for assembly ਀漀渀 猀椀琀攀⸀ഊ ਀戀礀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最 椀琀 爀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀攀 愀 猀琀漀渀攀 猀栀攀搀⸀ 椀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀 椀ഊcould do this with frame and canvas, but i have no facilities to paint ਀愀渀搀 搀爀礀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 猀琀漀渀攀 栀漀甀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 昀氀愀瀀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀 栀漀氀搀猀ഊlittle appeal. i like someone being able to come up and *knock* on the ਀搀漀漀爀昀爀愀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀愀渀礀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀㼀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 猀攀攀渀 琀栀椀猀 搀漀渀攀㼀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 搀漀渀攀 琀栀椀猀㼀ഊ-- ਀搀攀瘀椀渀 漀 爀愀甀搀栀Ⰰ 䰀椀漀渀✀猀 䜀愀琀攀Ⰰ 䄀渀 吀椀爀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀猀挀栀洀椀搀琀 愀琀 渀攀琀挀漀洀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䨀漀栀渀 刀⸀ 匀挀栀洀椀搀琀⤀ഊSubject: Re: not a tent, a SHED! ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一䔀吀䌀伀䴀 伀渀ⴀ氀椀渀攀 䌀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀 匀攀爀瘀椀挀攀猀 ⠀㐀 㠀 ㈀㘀㄀ⴀ㐀㜀   最甀攀猀琀⤀ഊDate: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:53:15 GMT ਀ഊMaster Fionn MacPhail, OL, built such a thing here after being inspired ਀戀礀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀猀 愀渀搀 挀愀琀栀攀搀爀愀氀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀  䠀攀 甀猀攀搀 ㈀砀㐀 愀渀搀 昀甀氀氀ഊsheets of plywood, giving an 8' tall wall, and canvas over a ridgepole for ਀琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀⸀  吀栀攀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 眀攀爀攀 洀愀搀攀Ⰰ 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀攀搀Ⰰ 瀀愀椀渀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀愀爀欀攀搀 昀漀爀ഊre-assembly. To make the shed rigid, crosspieces (again 2x4) were placed ਀愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀攀 猀栀漀爀琀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀⸀  ഊ ਀䐀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀漀渀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀搀 氀漀漀欀 栀愀氀昀 琀椀洀戀攀爀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 栀愀搀 愀 搀漀漀爀Ⰰഊand three windows. It is a marvelous thing, but a bit too labor intensive ਀昀漀爀 樀甀猀琀 愀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 栀攀 栀愀猀 椀琀 昀漀爀 猀愀氀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀漀甀琀栀 䈀愀礀 愀爀攀愀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊSan Francisco Bay, a bit far to see. ਀ഊCheers, ਀ഊJohn ਀倀愀椀渀琀椀渀最⼀䐀爀椀氀氀椀渀最⼀䈀漀氀琀椀渀最 挀爀攀眀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: jmb31 at cornell.edu (Jim Brewster) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: not a tent, a SHED! ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㌀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀㌀㌀㨀㈀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Boyce Thompson Institute ਀ഊMaster Seppo Temminen of Sterlynge Vayle has designed and built a ਀昀愀渀琀愀猀琀椀挀 ㈀ⴀ猀琀漀爀礀 吀甀搀漀爀ⴀ猀琀礀氀攀 洀攀爀挀栀愀渀琀✀猀 栀漀甀猀攀 眀椀琀栀 最爀漀甀渀搀ⴀ昀氀漀漀爀 猀瀀愀挀攀 昀漀爀ഊa potter, a jeweler, and a couple other crafters, which has also served as ਀愀 琀愀瘀攀爀渀⸀ 䤀琀 栀愀猀 琀眀漀 猀瀀愀挀椀漀甀猀 氀漀昀琀猀 眀椀琀栀 猀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最 爀漀漀洀 昀漀爀 ㈀ⴀ㌀ 愀搀甀氀琀猀 椀渀ഊeach one. ਀ഊThe house is built with a fairly elaborate post and beam frame, plywood ਀眀愀氀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 爀漀漀昀⸀ 䤀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 愀瀀愀爀琀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 愀渀搀 昀椀琀猀 漀渀 愀 縀㄀㔀ഊft. trailer. If you were at Pennsic the last two years, you would have ਀猀攀攀渀 椀琀Ⰰ 氀愀猀琀 礀攀愀爀 渀攀砀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 瘀攀渀搀漀爀猀⸀ 䄀渀搀 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 戀愀挀欀ഊagain this year as he stored it at the site. Hauling it 300+ miles really ਀椀猀 愀 瀀愀椀渀℀ഊ ਀䨀椀洀ഊRaising and Razing Crew ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: ederd at bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Dani Eder) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀栀攀搀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 愀 琀攀渀琀ഊOrganization: The Boeing Company ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㌀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㌀㨀㄀㐀㨀 㤀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀瘀 㠀㄀氀甀㌀㌀ 愀琀 甀戀瘀洀猀⸀挀挀⸀戀甀昀昀愀氀漀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀吀刀䤀匀吀䄀一 䌀䰀䄀䤀刀 䐀䔀 䰀唀一䔀⼀䬀䔀一 䴀伀一䐀匀䌀䠀䔀䤀一⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀㸀ऀ䤀✀瘀攀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 戀攀攀渀 眀愀渀琀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀ഊ>couple of years, and I've even drawn up plans. Mine, though, would ਀㸀戀攀 瀀甀琀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 愀 栀愀氀昀ⴀ琀椀洀戀攀爀 挀漀琀琀愀最攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 琀愀爀瀀 爀漀漀昀ഊ>that would have straw glued to it. ਀㸀ऀ吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 椀猀Ⰰ 栀漀眀 眀漀甀氀搀 䤀 最攀琀 猀甀挀栀 愀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀ഊ>New York to Pennsic, short of a U-Haul? ਀ഊI'm considering building a 'little house on the trailer' as my next ਀✀琀攀渀琀✀ 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀⸀  䤀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 㜀砀㄀㘀 昀漀漀琀 昀氀愀琀戀攀搀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 ⠀眀栀椀挀栀ഊwas pretty full last year going to Pennsic). The attraction of ਀栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 ✀栀漀甀猀攀✀ 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 瀀愀挀欀椀渀最 眀漀甀氀搀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀 漀昀 栀漀漀欀椀渀最 甀瀀ഊthe trailer, and setting up camp would consist of unhooking the ਀琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 愀渀搀 搀爀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 栀椀渀最攀搀 甀渀搀攀爀瀀椀渀渀椀渀最 瀀愀渀攀氀猀 琀漀 栀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀攀攀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 挀愀猀攀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 椀猀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 猀甀挀栀 愀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 䤀ഊbought cost $900 and can carry 7000 lb gross and 5000 lb net. ਀ഊAnother attraction of a little house is to be able to use a real ਀爀漀漀昀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀漀 戀攀 栀椀最栀 攀渀漀甀最栀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 眀攀琀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 漀昀 刀愀瘀攀渀✀猀 一攀猀琀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: ailith at cannet.com at cannet.com ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Trailers at pennsic ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㔀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀ 㨀㐀㠀㨀㌀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: APK - Internet Provider for Ohio. ਀ഊIn <4oo2g9$6np at tribune.concentric.net>, greeder at concentric.net writes: ਀㸀ഊ>I would definitly cover, or otherwise hide, that popup. Me thinks that it ਀㸀眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 瘀攀爀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀氀愀挀攀⸀  圀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 挀愀爀昀甀氀氀 瀀氀愀挀攀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 挀甀爀琀愀椀渀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊ>It could work. ਀㸀吀栀愀琀 猀愀椀搀㬀  䈀攀 愀眀愀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 爀攀最甀氀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀爀攀 ഊ>concerning this. I have heard that campers are not allowed at SCA events. ਀㸀䤀昀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀攀 琀栀攀渀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 栀漀眀 眀攀氀氀 礀漀甀 栀椀搀攀 椀琀⸀  ⠀漀爀 洀愀礀戀攀ഊ>you will just have to hide it _realy_ well [ grin ]. ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 爀甀氀攀猀 㼀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 爀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀攀 ഊpop-up at Estrella in years past. It was cleverly disguised as a wee tiny ਀猀琀漀渀攀 欀攀攀瀀Ⰰ 愀猀 䤀 爀攀挀愀氀氀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀搀搀攀搀 愀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 猀欀椀爀琀椀渀最 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀氀甀洀椀渀甀洀 ഊsides and painted it and the top (I think) to resemble stones walls. ਀ഊAilith ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 戀眀漀漀搀爀甀昀 愀琀 氀挀瀀⸀挀漀洀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 吀爀愀椀氀攀爀猀 愀琀 瀀攀渀渀猀椀挀ഊDate: 5 Jun 1996 17:53:09 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀漀洀猀漀渀 倀爀漀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀愀氀 倀甀戀氀椀猀栀椀渀最ഊ ਀ 愀椀氀椀琀栀 愀琀 挀愀渀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀 愀琀 挀愀渀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>I have seen at least one pop-up at Estrella in years past. It was cleverly >disguised as a wee tiny stone keep, as I recall. ... ਀㸀  䄀椀氀椀琀栀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䈀愀爀漀渀 愀渀搀 䈀愀爀漀渀攀猀猀 漀昀 吀栀攀猀挀漀爀爀攀 ⠀䔀愀猀琀⤀ 栀愀瘀攀 栀愀搀 愀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀 昀攀眀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 挀氀攀瘀攀爀氀礀 搀椀猀最甀椀猀攀搀 愀猀 愀 挀愀猀琀氀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 甀猀攀 愀 眀漀漀搀攀渀 昀爀愀洀攀 琀漀 攀砀琀攀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀猀 愀猀 琀漀眀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 氀漀眀攀爀⼀眀栀攀攀氀 愀爀攀愀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 瀀愀椀渀琀攀搀 琀漀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀攀 猀琀漀渀攀眀漀爀欀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 洀愀搀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀欀 瀀攀爀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 䌀漀漀瀀攀爀猀 椀渀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 栀愀搀 渀漀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀猀漀 猀攀攀渀 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀氀礀 搀椀猀最甀椀猀攀搀 瀀漀瀀ⴀ甀瀀猀⸀  䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 愀氀氀漀眀攀搀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 最漀漀搀 搀椀猀最甀椀猀攀 愀渀搀 愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 瀀攀爀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀Ⰰ 椀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 洀愀渀愀最攀搀⸀ഊ ਀ⴀ 䬀愀琀栀椀爀愀 甀洀 刀愀猀栀椀搀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: lobel at is.nyu.edu (Sheldon Lobel) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Period Trailer ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㘀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㘀㨀㈀ 㨀㐀㔀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: New York University ਀ഊI need some helpfull advice from engineers, physicists, and such technical ਀昀漀氀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 戀椀琀 愀最漀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 椀洀愀最攀猀 漀昀 䬀椀瀀挀栀愀欀 琀攀渀琀猀 ⠀㄀ 琀栀ⴀ㄀㈀琀栀 挀攀渀琀⸀⤀⸀ഊThis is basically a large wooden box on wheels, open to the sky, with the ਀琀漀瀀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 戀礀 愀 琀爀椀愀渀最氀攀 琀攀渀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 挀攀渀琀爀愀氀 瀀漀氀攀 眀椀琀栀ഊthe bottom of the tent attached to the sides of the box. The Kipchaks ਀氀椀瘀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 昀甀氀氀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 栀椀琀挀栀攀搀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 栀漀爀猀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀⸀ 吀栀攀ഊpictures show a number of folks peeking out - implying a fairly large (in ਀洀礀 攀猀琀椀洀愀琀攀 㠀 漀爀 㤀 昀漀漀琀⤀ 昀氀漀漀爀 愀爀攀愀⸀ഊ ਀ 䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀礀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 漀渀攀 戀甀琀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 琀栀攀 欀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 琀漀ഊmake it sturdy enough for hitching to my car on the way from Brooklyn to ਀倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀甀猀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 䤀✀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 椀猀 猀瀀攀挀猀 漀渀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀攀㨀ഊtype of wood, necessary thickness, brakets necessary, type of join ਀渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ഊ ਀䤀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀㨀           ⼀尀ഊ / \ ਀                      ⼀    尀   昀愀戀爀椀挀 琀攀渀琀ഊ ---------( )------cut------ ਀              ⼀                    尀ഊ / \ ਀            ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ || | | || ਀        簀簀 簀                          簀 簀簀ഊ || | wood box | || ਀        簀簀 簀                          簀 簀簀ഊ || | | || ਀        簀簀 簀                          簀 簀簀ഊ || -------------------------- || ਀        簀簀                              簀簀ഊ || || ਀        簀簀                              簀簀ഊ ਀         帀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ 眀栀攀攀氀猀 ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ帀ഊ ਀䄀渀礀 栀攀氀瀀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 洀甀挀栀 愀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀⸀ഊNahum ha Kuzar ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀攀⸀挀愀氀愀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀 愀琀 搀爀愀欀欀愀爀⸀洀栀瘀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䌀愀氀愀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 吀爀愀椀氀攀爀ഊDate: 06 Jun 96 20:15:48 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䐀爀甀椀搀✀猀 䜀爀漀瘀攀 䘀䤀䐀伀 ⴀ㸀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 䜀愀琀攀眀愀礀ഊ ਀氀漀戀攀氀 愀琀 椀猀⸀渀礀甀⸀攀搀甀 眀爀漀琀攀 椀渀 愀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 琀漀 䄀氀氀㨀ഊ ਀ 氀椀㸀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 猀漀洀攀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀氀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 昀爀漀洀 攀渀最椀渀攀攀爀猀Ⰰ 瀀栀礀猀椀挀椀猀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊ li> such technical folks. ਀ഊ li> A bit ago I found some images of Kipchak tents (10th-12th ਀ 氀椀㸀 挀攀渀琀⸀⤀⸀ ഊ ਀一攀愀琀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 戀甀琀 搀漀渀✀琀 氀攀愀瘀攀 甀猀 栀愀渀最椀渀最⸀⸀⸀ 眀栀攀爀攀 搀椀搀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀洀㼀℀㼀℀㼀 渀愀洀攀 礀漀甀爀ഊsources pretty please ;) ਀ഊ li> This is basically a large wooden box on wheels, open ਀ 氀椀㸀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀欀礀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 戀礀 愀 琀爀椀愀渀最氀攀 琀攀渀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 ഊ li> tent seems to have a central pole with the bottom of the ਀ 氀椀㸀 琀攀渀琀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀砀⸀ ഊ ਀匀漀甀渀搀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀 猀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀 ✀漀昀昀椀挀攀爀猀✀ 猀琀礀氀攀 琀攀渀琀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀猀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀ഊthe ground. Also called a wedge and seen used by civ war and rev war ਀爀攀ⴀ攀渀愀挀琀漀爀猀 ⠀猀愀渀猀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀⤀⸀ 匀漀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀⸀ ഊ ਀ 氀椀㸀 吀栀攀 䬀椀瀀挀栀愀欀猀 氀椀瘀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 昀甀氀氀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 栀椀琀挀栀攀搀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 ഊ li> horses for transport. The pictures show a number of folks ਀ 氀椀㸀 瀀攀攀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀 ⴀ 椀洀瀀氀礀椀渀最 愀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 氀愀爀最攀 ⠀椀渀 洀礀 攀猀琀椀洀愀琀攀 㠀 漀爀 㤀 ഊ li> foot) floor area. ਀ഊI assume you mean an 8 or 9 foot long floor area by circa 6-7 feet wide. For a ਀琀漀琀愀氀 漀昀 㘀㌀ 猀焀甀愀爀攀 昀攀攀琀⸀ ഊ ਀ 氀椀㸀  䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀礀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 漀渀攀 戀甀琀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 琀栀攀ഊ li> knowledge necessary to make it sturdy enough for hitching to ਀ 氀椀㸀 洀礀 挀愀爀 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 䈀爀漀漀欀氀礀渀 琀漀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀ഊ ਀䄀栀栀⸀⸀⸀ 眀攀氀氀 氀攀琀 洀攀 栀攀氀瀀 礀漀甀 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀琀琀攀爀⸀⸀⸀ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 戀甀椀氀搀 琀栀攀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 瀀愀爀琀⸀ഊYou go and locate and purchase a decent utility trailer whose box/floor has ਀爀漀琀琀攀搀 愀眀愀礀 戀甀琀 眀栀漀猀攀 眀栀攀攀氀猀 愀渀搀 昀爀愀洀攀 愀爀攀 椀渀 昀椀渀攀 猀栀愀瀀攀⸀ 伀氀搀 瀀漀瀀ⴀ甀瀀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀ഊtrailers (campers) are perfect for something like this. I would use the style ਀琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 琀栀攀 眀栀攀攀氀猀 甀渀搀攀爀渀攀愀琀栀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀 ⠀昀漀爀 爀攀愀猀漀渀猀 䤀 眀椀氀氀 最攀琀 椀渀琀漀 椀渀 愀ഊminute). Also look for a trailer with a single box beam hitch versus the ਀琀爀椀愀渀最氀攀 猀琀礀氀攀 ⠀愀最愀椀渀 琀漀 戀攀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀攀搀⤀⸀ ഊ ਀䐀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 挀漀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀琀爀椀瀀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀猀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 昀爀愀洀攀 ⠀氀攀愀瘀攀ഊthe floor if it is in very good condfition. If you are lucky enough to get a ਀眀栀漀氀攀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 椀渀 搀攀挀攀渀琀 挀漀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 樀甀猀琀 愀搀搀 攀渀漀甀最栀 眀漀漀搀ഊaround the box to make the box look proper. ਀ഊOtherwise you will use 3/4" outdoor, marine or pressure treated grade plywood ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀漀爀⸀ 夀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀眀漀 戀愀挀欀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀焀甀椀猀椀琀攀ഊlighting units attached and the other will have the brackets for the tent pole ਀愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 愀 渀椀挀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 搀漀漀爀 琀漀 攀愀猀攀 攀渀琀爀礀⸀ ഊ ਀吀栀攀 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀礀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 戀礀 椀渀琀攀爀椀漀爀 戀爀愀挀攀⼀猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀⸀ 䰀愀礀 琀栀攀 瀀氀礀眀漀漀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 搀攀挀欀 漀昀ഊthe frame if you need to replace the deck. Around the 2 sides and front attach ਀愀 ㈀砀㈀ 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀攀爀 攀搀最攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀攀挀欀 眀椀琀栀 最漀漀搀 搀攀挀欀椀渀最 猀挀爀攀眀猀 甀瀀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀ഊinto the 2x2. Across the back you would have the 2x2 cleat stop where your door ਀眀椀氀氀 戀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀搀⸀ 䄀琀 愀氀氀 挀漀爀渀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀搀搀 愀 ㈀砀㈀砀⠀栀攀椀最栀琀 漀昀ഊsides) in all 4 corners so that you effectively have posts standing up. Attach ਀琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀猀攀 瀀漀猀琀猀 猀挀爀攀眀椀渀最 氀椀戀攀爀愀氀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 ㈀砀㈀ഊcleat. With plywood you always want to screw into the solid wood. You should ਀愀氀猀漀 最氀甀攀 琀栀攀 樀漀椀渀琀猀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 愀猀 礀漀甀 猀挀爀攀眀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀漀渀最攀猀琀 樀漀椀渀琀⸀ഊUse the glue that comes in a caulking gun tube and is designed for framing and ਀猀栀攀愀琀栀椀渀最 栀漀甀猀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀甀椀氀搀 甀瀀 礀漀甀爀 猀椀搀攀猀 甀猀椀渀最 氀愀瀀瀀攀搀 猀椀搀椀渀最 ⠀洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀ഊexpensive), or a type of plywood called T1-11 cut so the side runs the length ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 㐀砀㠀 猀栀攀攀琀 洀椀最栀琀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀攀砀琀甀爀攀 愀渀搀 氀漀漀欀 琀漀 猀愀琀椀猀昀礀 礀漀甀⸀ 䌀栀攀挀欀ഊyour local lumber yards for what you can afford and what will look good enough ਀昀漀爀 礀漀甀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀 最氀甀琀琀漀渀 昀漀爀 瀀甀渀椀猀栀洀攀渀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 漀戀琀愀椀渀 爀漀甀最栀 挀甀琀 戀愀爀渀ഊsiding to more closely approximate what their texture would be like. ਀ഊHeight of the sides will be dependant on the type of material you use as well ਀愀猀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀爀 攀猀琀椀洀愀琀攀猀 愀爀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 甀猀椀渀最⸀ 䄀猀猀甀洀攀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊare smaller than they are today and adjust accordingly as they would have built ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀椀爀 猀琀愀琀甀爀攀 眀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀甀椀氀搀 昀漀爀 漀甀爀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀礀眀愀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 愀琀琀愀挀栀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀氀礀 洀漀甀渀琀攀搀 ㈀砀㈀猀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀搀搀ഊadditional 2x2s with 45 degree cuts on the end as diagonal braces to the ਀瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀 挀漀爀渀攀爀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 洀漀爀攀 猀琀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀⸀ 䜀攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀琀椀挀愀氀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀ഊshould be stable enough. You will want to add a 2x2 top rail around the wall ਀瀀椀攀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 猀琀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀⸀ 䔀瘀攀爀礀 ㈀✀ 漀爀 猀漀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀ഊvertical piece attached to the top and bottom rails as well as the siding. Make ਀猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀椀渀最 攀砀琀攀渀搀猀 氀漀眀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 洀攀琀愀氀 昀爀愀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀⸀ ഊ ਀䈀礀 猀挀爀攀眀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀漀爀渀攀爀猀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 ㈀砀㈀ 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 攀愀挀栀 猀椀搀攀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀椀渀最ഊit's adjacent side. This plan faulters when we get to the back end because of ਀琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀⸀ 夀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 洀愀欀攀 愀 ㌀ⴀ㘀∀ 猀琀甀戀 眀愀氀氀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀ഊwill be to give a diagonal brace to the back corner of the trailer. ਀ഊI mentioned earlier you can make two back ends to allow for easy swap of ਀氀椀最栀琀椀渀最 攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀⸀ 䄀猀 愀渀 愀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 甀猀攀 愀 猀挀爀攀眀搀爀椀瘀攀爀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀ഊlights when you get to camp and push the wires (with a quick connector system ਀昀漀爀 攀愀猀礀 爀攀洀漀瘀愀氀⤀ 戀愀挀欀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 栀漀氀攀⸀ 䤀最渀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 栀漀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀爀攀愀琀 琀栀攀洀 愀猀ഊanother knot hole. If you choose the remove the lights system then you only ਀渀攀攀搀 漀渀攀 戀愀挀欀 搀漀漀爀 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀礀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 眀椀氀氀 挀漀渀猀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀 戀攀 猀琀甀爀搀椀攀爀⸀ഊOtherwise you will have to attach the two different back panels using some type ਀漀昀 戀漀氀琀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 愀爀爀愀渀最攀洀攀渀琀 琀漀 愀氀氀漀眀 挀栀愀渀最椀渀最⸀ ഊ ਀匀攀攀椀渀最 愀猀 栀漀眀 一夀 匀琀愀琀攀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀猀 愀洀戀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 挀氀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀 氀椀最栀琀猀 䤀✀搀 漀瀀琀 昀漀爀ഊremovable lights and just remove them for the duration. I will outline what I ਀眀漀甀氀搀 搀漀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 愀渀搀 爀攀愀爀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䄀猀猀甀洀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 椀猀 㘀✀ 㘀∀ 眀椀搀攀ഊ(rather standard size if I recall correctly) I would place the door on one or ਀琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 愀瀀瀀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀攀氀礀 㘀ⴀ㠀∀ 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 愀氀猀漀ഊgo 6-8" from the center point of the trailer. So, for the 6.5' trailer the door ਀眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 甀瀀 琀漀 ㈀㜀∀ 眀椀搀攀⸀ 䤀昀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 爀攀搀甀挀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀 瀀愀猀琀 琀栀攀ഊcenter point to 3" for a 30" door but most camper doors are smaller than 27". ਀吀栀攀爀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 搀攀昀椀渀愀琀攀氀礀 戀攀 愀 搀椀愀最漀渀愀氀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊWhether an angle bracket (angled into the bed of the trailer) is needed to ਀猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 瀀漀氀攀 眀椀氀氀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀 漀渀 栀漀眀 猀琀甀爀搀礀 礀漀甀爀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 椀猀⸀ ഊ # ਀                                   ⌀吀瀀ഊ #eo ਀                                   ⌀渀氀ഊ #te ਀                                   ⌀ഊ ====================================||===============||========= ਀   ⌀尀       ⌀        ⌀        ⌀    ⨀  ⼀⌀栀       ⌀       氀⌀尀      ⼀⌀ഊ #\\ # # # * //#id # a#\\ //# ਀   ⌀ 尀尀     ⌀        ⌀        ⌀    ⨀⼀⼀ ⌀渀漀      ⌀       琀⌀ 尀尀  ⼀⼀ ⌀ഊ # \\ # # # // #go # c# \\// # ਀   ⌀   尀尀   ⌀        ⌀        ⌀   ⼀⼀   ⌀攀爀      ⌀       栀⌀   嘀⼀   ⌀ഊ # \\ # # # //* #d================# // # ਀   㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀㴀ഊ ਀唀猀攀 ㈀⬀∀ 栀愀爀搀眀漀漀搀 挀氀漀猀攀琀 爀漀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 瀀漀氀攀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 愀琀琀愀挀栀 愀ഊcross piece between the poles to reduce the stress on the pole mounting. By ਀愀搀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀爀漀猀猀 瀀漀氀攀 礀漀甀 爀攀搀甀挀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀氀礀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀搀愀渀挀礀 琀漀 瀀甀氀氀 琀栀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀 椀渀琀漀ഊthe center of the trailer. ਀ഊYou will locate some long nails and predrill the ends of the two poles just a ਀戀椀琀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 渀愀椀氀猀 愀渀搀 搀爀椀瘀攀 琀栀攀 渀愀椀氀猀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀⸀ 䰀攀愀瘀椀渀最 漀渀氀礀ഊenough to go through most of the cross bar (more closet rod). Cut off the head ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 渀愀椀氀 愀渀搀 昀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀瘀攀爀 爀漀甀渀搀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 渀漀渀攀 漀昀 椀琀 攀砀琀攀渀搀猀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀ഊthe cross piece and round the end of the cross pieces. You don't need any ਀琀椀攀搀漀眀渀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀 猀漀 攀砀琀攀渀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 渀愀椀氀猀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 椀猀ഊnot at all necessary. Consequently that is one less water leak you need to ਀眀漀爀爀礀 愀戀漀甀琀⸀ ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 猀攀眀 礀漀甀爀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 愀氀氀漀眀 昀漀爀 愀 最攀渀攀爀漀甀猀 漀瘀攀爀氀愀瀀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀ഊdoor to keep rain out, also make an overlapping flap to cover the attachments ਀礀漀甀 甀猀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 甀猀攀 愀 最爀漀洀洀攀琀ഊstrip and have holes spaced every 6 inches or so and lace or tie the canvas to ਀琀栀攀 栀漀氀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 昀氀愀瀀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 挀椀爀挀愀 㘀∀ 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 爀愀椀渀 昀爀漀洀 攀渀琀攀爀椀渀最⸀ ഊ ਀夀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀爀椀氀氀 愀 昀攀眀 栀漀氀攀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 椀渀挀栀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 氀漀眀攀爀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀ഊpoles to allow you to tighten the canvas by raising the pole and inserting a ਀爀漀甀渀搀攀搀 攀渀搀 渀愀椀氀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 栀漀氀攀 愀戀漀瘀攀 礀漀甀爀 琀漀瀀 戀爀愀挀欀攀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 戀爀愀挀欀攀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀ഊmade out of available cable/pipe tie down clamps (electrical/plumbing dept) or ਀洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 昀氀愀琀 猀琀攀攀氀⼀椀爀漀渀 猀琀漀挀欀 挀漀氀搀 瀀漀甀渀搀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀 猀栀愀瀀攀⸀ 䄀琀琀愀挀栀ഊsome 2x4 blocks to the wall where the poles are attached to distribute the ਀瀀爀攀猀猀甀爀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀挀爀攀眀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀洀瀀 漀渀氀礀⸀ ഊ ਀吀栀攀 眀栀攀攀氀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 愀爀攀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 戀攀搀 漀昀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 戀甀琀 瘀椀猀椀戀氀攀 昀爀漀洀ഊthe sides so we create a fake wheel to cover them. Using either 1/2" plywood or ਀猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 ㄀砀㘀 瀀椀渀攀 戀漀愀爀搀猀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 挀爀漀猀猀 挀氀攀愀琀猀⤀ 挀甀琀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 ⠀㌀⬀✀⤀ 眀栀攀攀氀⸀ 夀漀甀 眀椀氀氀ഊattach using a fake hub looking arrangement (ie bolted through to the wall with ਀猀漀洀攀 戀氀漀挀欀猀 戀攀栀椀渀搀 椀琀 愀渀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 愀 眀愀最漀渀 眀栀攀攀氀 栀甀戀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀ഊare purely decorative and hold no weight whatsover. I'd probably dig a bit into ਀琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀 椀洀瀀爀攀猀猀椀漀渀 漀昀 最爀攀愀琀 眀攀椀最栀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 眀愀最漀渀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 愀氀氀ഊwagons always left ruts in the roads. ਀ഊYou will also need 4 jacks in the four corners of the trailer to keep the floor ਀猀琀愀戀氀攀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 椀渀 愀渀搀 眀愀氀欀 愀爀漀甀渀搀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 甀猀攀 猀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀ഊjack stands and cover them in some way (a 2 sides wooden cover or something ਀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀⤀⸀ 夀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀猀漀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 氀漀渀最 眀漀漀搀攀渀 ㌀ 猀椀搀攀搀搀 挀栀愀渀攀氀 戀漀砀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀ഊthe front hitch post as that is not safely removed and a wooden hitch harness ਀眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀琀愀氀 戀漀砀 戀攀愀洀⸀ 䐀攀挀漀爀愀琀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 挀爀漀猀猀ഊbeams for horses if desired. ਀ഊ li> Thus, what I'm looking for is specs on materials and ਀ 氀椀㸀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀攀㨀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 眀漀漀搀Ⰰ 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀 琀栀椀挀欀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 戀爀愀欀攀琀猀ഊ li> necessary, type of join necessary, etc. ਀ഊHope this was sufficient... ;) ਀ഊPlease send the references to the pictures you found as well as personal ਀椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 猀漀 䤀 挀愀渀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 礀漀甀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 椀搀攀愀 愀猀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 洀愀欀攀 愀 渀椀挀攀 䄀☀匀ഊarticle. ਀ഊHaraldr Bassi, Frosted Hills, East ਀栀愀爀愀氀搀爀 愀琀 搀爀愀欀欀愀爀⸀洀栀瘀⸀渀攀琀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀攀 䌀愀氀愀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀Ⰰ 吀攀愀洀 伀匀⼀㈀ഊdave at drakkar.mhv.net ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 氀漀戀攀氀 愀琀 椀猀⸀渀礀甀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀匀栀攀氀搀漀渀 䰀漀戀攀氀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 吀爀愀椀氀攀爀ഊDate: 9 Jun 1996 21:29:29 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一攀眀 夀漀爀欀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䌀愀氀愀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀 ⠀搀愀瘀攀⸀挀愀氀愀昀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀漀 愀琀 搀爀愀欀欀愀爀⸀洀栀瘀⸀渀攀琀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ: lobel at is.nyu.edu wrote in a message to All: ਀㨀 ഊ: li> I need some helpfull advice from engineers, physicists, and ਀㨀  氀椀㸀 猀甀挀栀 琀攀挀栀渀椀挀愀氀 昀漀氀欀猀⸀ഊ: ਀㨀  氀椀㸀 䄀 戀椀琀 愀最漀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 椀洀愀最攀猀 漀昀 䬀椀瀀挀栀愀欀 琀攀渀琀猀 ⠀㄀ 琀栀ⴀ㄀㈀琀栀ഊ: li> cent.). ਀㨀 ഊ: Neat.... but don't leave us hanging... where did you find them?!?!? name your ਀㨀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 㬀⤀ ഊ ਀䄀爀琀愀洀愀渀漀瘀Ⰰ ∀䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䨀攀眀椀猀栀 䬀栀愀稀愀爀猀∀ഊ(I may be a bit off on the title. he wrote two books on the Khazars, this ਀椀猀 琀栀攀 戀椀最 昀愀琀 漀渀攀⸀⤀ഊThe book is in Russian - I don't know if there is a Russian translation. ਀吀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀 刀甀猀猀椀愀渀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀愀氀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀⸀ഊNahum ha Kuzar ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 爀愀渀搀礀 愀琀 猀琀漀渀攀洀愀爀挀栀攀⸀漀爀最ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 吀爀愀椀氀攀爀猀 愀琀 瀀攀渀渀猀椀挀ഊDate: 7 Jun 1996 03:05:09 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 爀愀渀搀礀 漀爀 愀洀礀  愀琀 猀琀漀渀攀洀愀爀挀栀攀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 琀眀漀 昀愀洀椀氀椀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 漀甀爀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 琀栀愀琀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀爀愀椀氀攀爀猀 琀漀 ഊPENNSIC. They have a large canvas/sailcloth like material covering for the ਀琀爀愀椀氀攀爀 琀漀 眀攀愀爀⸀  吀栀椀猀 最椀瘀攀猀 椀琀 愀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀 猀琀礀氀攀 氀漀漀欀⸀  吀栀攀 爀攀愀氀 最椀瘀攀 愀眀愀礀 椀猀 ഊtires showing because they didn't make it long enough and the cool white ਀昀氀漀爀猀挀攀渀琀 猀琀礀氀攀 挀愀洀瀀 氀椀最栀琀猀 最氀漀眀椀渀最 椀渀猀椀搀攀⸀  䤀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 漀渀攀 最攀渀琀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 洀愀搀攀 愀渀 ഊelephant out of his van. Most intriguing eh. ਀ഊLord Dorian of Whispering Oaks ਀嬀洀搀愀 刀愀渀搀礀 倀攀爀爀礀洀愀渀崀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Tanya Guptill ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Seek advice for portable house ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㜀㨀㐀㌀㨀㈀㔀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊ ਀刀椀挀栀 䠀椀挀欀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> This summer my husband and I plan to build a portable house to bring to ਀㸀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀  吀栀攀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀攀 琀栀椀猀 愀渀渀漀甀渀挀攀洀攀渀琀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 戀爀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 洀漀猀琀ഊ> scadians is a long strange stare and then some useful comments about how ਀㸀 眀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 最漀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀⸀   吀栀攀 栀漀甀猀攀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀 洀漀挀欀 眀愀琀琀氀攀 愀渀搀ഊ> daub peasant's hut. Any suggestions anyone has about how to go about ਀㸀 琀栀椀猀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 甀猀攀昀甀氀⸀  匀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ  䤀 愀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 眀愀礀ഊ> to make the outside of the house textured to resemble the uneven surface ਀㸀 漀昀 眀愀琀琀氀攀 愀渀搀 搀愀甀戀⸀  䄀氀猀漀 䤀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 氀椀最栀琀⸀  䤀琀 渀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 挀漀洀攀ഊ> home in a trailer. The basic construction will be planks and probably ਀㸀 昀漀愀洀 戀漀愀爀搀猀Ⰰ  渀漀琀 猀琀礀爀漀昀漀愀洀 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀 ⠀琀漀漀 戀爀椀琀琀氀攀 愀渀搀 琀漀漀 昀氀愀洀洀愀戀氀攀⤀  䤀ഊ> know it is a strange and crazy project even by SCA standards but I ਀㸀 椀渀琀攀渀搀 琀漀 猀攀攀 椀琀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀⸀  䄀渀礀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀瘀攀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 洀甀挀栀ഊ> appreciated. -Jocelyne de Vaselais ਀ഊActually, there are several people that have been kind enough to make ਀琀栀攀椀爀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 栀漀甀猀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀⸀  ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 氀椀猀琀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 倀伀刀吀䄀䈀䰀䔀 匀吀刀唀䌀吀唀刀䔀匀⼀䈀唀䤀䰀䐀䤀一䜀匀 漀渀ഊhttp://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/tentlinks2.htm, but the specific pages ਀琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 瘀椀攀眀 愀爀攀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀挀甀⸀甀戀挀⸀挀愀⼀縀稀愀瀀栀漀搀⼀猀挀愀⼀猀栀攀搀⼀ഊPlans for a portable 'stone' shed ਀ഊhttp://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/house1portable1.pdf and ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀攀氀攀瀀漀爀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀琀最甀瀀琀椀氀氀⼀栀漀甀猀攀㄀瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀㈀⸀瀀搀昀 ഊare parts I and II on building a 'thatched' roof structure, very much ਀氀椀欀攀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀琀琀愀最攀 愀琀ഊhttp://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/toc.htm. The first two links are in ਀倀䐀䘀 昀漀爀洀愀琀Ⰰ 猀漀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 䄀搀漀戀攀 䄀挀爀漀戀愀琀 刀攀愀搀攀爀 琀漀 瘀椀攀眀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀稀戀搀⸀挀漀洀⼀䰀攀倀䜀⼀椀渀搀攀砀⸀栀琀洀氀  ഊBuilding Le Poulet Gauche, a 16th Century tavern that disassembles ਀ഊhttp://dulcimer.com/pennsic/grifden.html ਀䜀爀椀昀昀椀渀✀猀 䐀攀渀ⴀⴀ䐀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀 漀昀 愀猀猀攀洀戀氀礀 漀昀 氀愀爀最攀Ⰰ 眀漀漀搀攀渀 昀爀愀洀攀搀 猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀ഊ ਀䤀 眀椀猀栀 礀漀甀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀猀 戀攀猀琀 漀昀 氀甀挀欀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 攀渀搀攀愀瘀漀爀猀℀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 椀琀ഊfinished by Pennsic, I would love to take a picture of it to add to my ਀眀攀戀 瀀愀最攀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀爀 猀攀爀瘀愀渀琀ⰀഊMira Silverlock McKendrick ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䄀渀愀猀琀愀猀椀愀∀ 㰀愀渀愀猀琀愀猀椀愀 愀琀 椀洀攀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀攀攀欀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 昀漀爀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 栀漀甀猀攀ഊDate: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:01:34 -0400 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 䴀愀椀渀攀⼀䠀愀爀瘀愀爀搀一攀琀ഊ ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 搀漀渀攀 猀漀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 挀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀ഊfor the Knowne World Architectural Guild, at ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀攀氀攀瀀漀爀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀琀最甀瀀琀椀氀氀⼀琀漀挀⸀栀琀洀ഊ ਀匀礀爀 䄀爀氀漀昀昀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 攀搀椀琀漀爀Ⰰ 戀甀椀氀琀 琀栀攀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 挀漀琀琀愀最攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 瀀愀最攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊgives instructions for building it in issue one (which is also on line). I ਀欀渀漀眀 栀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀琀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 礀攀愀爀Ⰰ 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀礀 琀眀漀⸀  伀爀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 攀洀愀椀氀ഊhim directly at mpower at ime.net (His email is listed several times on the site). ਀䤀 昀攀攀氀 猀甀爀攀 栀攀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 最爀攀愀琀 攀渀琀栀甀猀椀愀猀洀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 栀攀氀瀀猀℀  䤀 氀漀漀欀 昀漀爀眀愀爀搀 琀漀 猀攀攀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀攀猀甀氀琀猀 愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀℀ഊ ਀䄀渀愀猀琀愀猀椀愀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: christopher gilman ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Seek advice for portable house ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㈀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㈀㨀 㔀㨀㈀㜀 倀䐀吀ഊOrganization: Global Effects Inc. ਀ഊIf you use fiberglass and polyester resin or "Bondo" (or any cheaper auto ਀戀漀搀礀 昀椀氀氀攀爀⤀  氀愀椀搀 甀瀀 漀渀 瀀氀礀眀漀漀搀⸀ ⠀礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀搀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 瀀椀最洀攀渀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀ഊwhite or paint it with a flat white paint) This will give you a simulated ਀搀愀甀戀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 昀氀攀砀椀戀氀攀 愀渀搀 氀椀最栀琀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 愀搀搀攀搀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 瀀椀渀攀 戀漀愀爀搀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊhave been burned with a torch then wire brushed this will simulate an aged ਀戀攀愀洀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 挀氀攀愀爀 挀漀愀琀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀洀 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀爀甀猀栀攀搀 漀渀 挀漀愀琀 漀昀 瀀漀氀礀攀猀琀攀爀 爀攀猀椀渀 琀漀ഊseal it and give the fake daub a good surface to stick to. With all of these ਀琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀✀猀 琀爀礀 琀栀攀洀 漀渀 猀挀爀愀瀀猀 漀昀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀 最漀漀搀 瀀栀漀琀漀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀氀ഊthing right in front of you. DON'T RELY ON YOUR MEMORY! The biggest mistake ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 洀愀欀攀 椀渀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 椀猀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 最漀漀搀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 昀爀漀渀琀ഊof them as they work. ਀ഊI've been doing this type of thing for 20 years professionally. If you would ਀氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 戀甀椀氀琀Ⰰ 䴀礀 眀攀戀 瀀愀最攀 椀猀ഊhttp://www.globaleffects.com ਀ഊIf you need reference look for a book called, "The English Mediaeval House" ਀戀礀 䴀愀爀最愀爀攀琀 圀漀漀搀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㐀 匀琀甀搀椀漀 䔀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀 䰀琀搀⸀ 䤀匀䈀一 ㄀ 㠀㔀㠀㤀㄀ ㄀㘀㜀 ㈀ഊ ਀䌀栀爀椀猀 䜀椀氀洀愀渀⼀ 匀椀爀 䜀愀猀琀漀渀 䈀漀渀渀攀瘀椀氀氀攀 搀攀 氀愀 䌀爀漀椀砀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: christopher gilman ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Seek advice for portable house ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㈀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㠀㨀㈀㜀㨀㄀㜀 倀䐀吀ഊOrganization: Global Effects Inc. ਀ഊwilliam thomas powers wrote: ਀㸀 㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ> >This added between pine boards that ਀㸀 㸀栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 戀甀爀渀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 愀 琀漀爀挀栀 琀栀攀渀 眀椀爀攀 戀爀甀猀栀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 猀椀洀甀氀愀琀攀 愀渀 愀最攀搀ഊ> >beam. ਀㸀 㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ> >The biggest mistake ਀㸀 㸀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 洀愀欀攀 椀渀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 椀猀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 最漀漀搀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 昀爀漀渀琀ഊ> >of them as they work. ਀㸀 㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 洀椀猀琀愀欀攀 椀猀 琀漀 愀最攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 戀爀愀渀搀 渀攀眀ഊ> to your personna---that cruck house you built should look brand new and not ਀㸀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀 㘀   礀攀愀爀猀 漀氀搀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀栀椀猀 猀栀漀眀猀 甀瀀 椀渀 䄀☀匀 焀甀椀琀攀 漀昀琀攀渀㨀  瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀琀椀昀椀挀椀愀氀氀礀 愀最攀 椀琀攀洀猀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀洀ഊ> look like a piece in a museum with centuries of use/abuse/neglect when the ਀㸀 瀀椀攀挀攀 ⨀猀栀漀甀氀搀⨀ 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 礀漀甀 樀甀猀琀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀㬀 漀爀 椀昀 椀琀 椀猀 愀 栀攀椀爀氀漀漀洀 氀椀欀攀 礀漀甀爀ഊ> father or grandfather made it and not like your great-great-great-great-great ਀㸀 ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ⴀ最爀攀愀琀ഊ> -great-great-grandfather made it; but in a style that would not appear for ਀㸀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 㘀   礀攀愀爀猀 愀昀琀攀爀 栀椀猀 搀攀愀琀栀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 眀椀氀攀氀洀 琀栀攀 猀洀椀琀栀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀 瀀漀椀渀琀⸀ 䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀 爀愀眀 漀愀欀 氀甀洀戀攀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀最攀搀⼀漀爀 猀甀渀ഊdried before it was used. Sometimes they painted the beams with pitch to seal ਀琀栀攀洀⸀  䄀氀猀漀 琀栀攀 最爀愀椀渀 椀渀 瀀椀渀攀 椀猀 洀甀挀栀 昀椀渀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 漀愀欀⸀ 吀栀攀 眀椀爀攀 戀爀甀猀栀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀ഊgives the wood the appearance of heavy grain, at about 1/10 the cost of solid oak beams. One must also add some type of aging and artistic touch, because most ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 椀琀攀洀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 眀愀礀⸀ 䤀昀 椀琀 氀漀漀欀猀 琀漀漀 ∀一攀眀∀ 琀栀攀渀 椀琀 栀愀猀 愀 琀攀渀搀攀渀挀礀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 昀愀欀攀⸀ 䈀甀琀 愀猀 礀漀甀 瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 漀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 挀愀渀 最漀 琀漀漀 昀愀爀 愀渀搀 䤀 昀椀最栀琀 琀栀椀猀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 椀渀 洀漀瘀椀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䌀⸀ 䜀椀氀洀愀渀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: powers at cis.ohio-state.edu (william thomas powers) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Seek advice for portable house ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㌀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㌀㨀㔀㘀㨀 㔀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science ਀ഊ>> Another common mistake is to age something that would have been brand new ਀㸀㸀 琀漀 礀漀甀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀渀愀ⴀⴀⴀ琀栀愀琀 挀爀甀挀欀 栀漀甀猀攀 礀漀甀 戀甀椀氀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 氀漀漀欀 戀爀愀渀搀 渀攀眀 愀渀搀 渀漀琀ഊ>> like it was 600 years old ਀ഊ>This is a very good point. However raw oak lumber would have been aged/or sun ਀㸀搀爀椀攀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀 甀猀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 眀漀爀欀 愀 氀漀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀椀爀 搀爀椀攀搀 氀甀洀戀攀爀㬀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 琀漀爀挀栀⼀戀爀甀猀栀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 甀猀攀搀 漀渀 椀琀ⴀⴀⴀ攀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 漀昀 愀 ㈀   礀攀愀爀 漀氀搀 戀愀爀渀℀ഊ ਀㸀 匀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀礀 瀀愀椀渀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 戀攀愀洀猀 眀椀琀栀 瀀椀琀挀栀 琀漀 猀攀愀氀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 愀洀 洀漀爀攀 昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀挀愀渀搀愀渀愀瘀椀愀渀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 漀昀 猀琀爀椀瀀瀀椀渀最 挀漀渀椀昀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 愀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 琀栀攀 琀爀攀攀 琀漀 昀漀爀洀 愀 氀愀礀攀爀 漀昀 瀀椀琀挀栀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 挀甀琀琀椀渀最 椀琀 搀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 甀猀椀渀最 椀琀 昀漀爀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䄀氀猀漀 琀栀攀 最爀愀椀渀 椀渀 瀀椀渀攀 椀猀 洀甀挀栀 昀椀渀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 漀愀欀⸀ 吀栀攀 眀椀爀攀 戀爀甀猀栀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀ഊ>gives the wood the appearance of heavy grain, at about 1/10 the cost of solid ਀㸀漀愀欀 戀攀愀洀猀⸀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 昀愀欀攀 漀愀欀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 甀猀椀渀最 瀀椀渀攀 昀漀爀 瀀椀渀攀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最猀 椀渀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 愀爀攀愀猀ⴀⴀⴀ琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 最爀愀椀渀 漀渀 瀀椀渀攀 樀甀猀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 漀愀欀 渀漀 洀愀琀攀爀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 搀漀㬀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 琀栀攀 攀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 漀愀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 伀渀攀 洀甀猀琀 愀氀猀漀 愀搀搀 猀漀洀攀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 愀最椀渀最 愀渀搀 愀爀琀椀猀琀椀挀 琀漀甀挀栀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 洀漀猀琀ഊ>people expect the item to look a certain way. If it looks to "New" then it has ਀㸀愀 琀攀渀搀攀渀挀礀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 昀愀欀攀⸀ 䈀甀琀 愀猀 礀漀甀 瀀漀椀渀琀攀搀 漀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 挀愀渀 最漀 琀漀 昀愀爀 愀渀搀 䤀 昀椀最栀琀ഊ>this all the time in movies. ਀ഊWell this is a personal call; I'd rather educate folk than help cement them in their errors. I've always found that real wear and weathering do a sufficient job; of course using recycled wood can jumpstart the aging process. ਀ ഊwilliam the smith [who has] got beech drying in the garage attic, maple and osage orange drying in the basement and dunnage lumber piled where ever there's room. ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀椀稀稀椀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䴀椀稀稀椀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀攀攀欀 愀搀瘀椀挀攀 昀漀爀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 栀漀甀猀攀ഊDate: 23 Jun 1999 15:00:03 GMT ਀ഊ> One must also add some type of aging and artistic touch, because most ਀㸀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 椀琀攀洀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 眀愀礀⸀ 䤀昀 椀琀 氀漀漀欀猀 琀漀 ∀一攀眀∀ 琀栀攀渀 椀琀 栀愀猀ഊ>a tendency to look fake. But as you pointed out this can go to far and I fight ਀㸀琀栀椀猀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 椀渀 洀漀瘀椀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䠀愀瘀椀渀最 樀甀猀琀 爀攀愀搀 ∀吀栀攀 吀椀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 䈀漀甀渀搀∀Ⰰ 愀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 戀漀漀欀 漀昀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 氀椀昀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊEnglish Peasantry in the 13th/14th cent. I have a comment on wattle & daub ਀栀漀甀猀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 愀甀琀栀漀爀 挀漀渀昀椀爀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 栀漀甀猀椀渀最ഊused by the peasants and that they were indeed small, 3 rooms at the outside. ਀䰀漀昀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 愀渀搀 猀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最⸀  ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 愀最攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀漀甀猀攀⸀  匀栀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 愀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀 栀漀甀猀攀 ഊrarely lasted more than about 20 years. By the time the kid inherits (son or ਀搀愀甀最栀琀攀爀⤀ 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 爀攀瀀愀椀爀 琀漀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀 栀漀甀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀ഊinheritor would simply build a new one. A big advantage of wattle & daub as a ਀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀✀猀 焀甀椀挀欀 愀渀搀 挀栀攀愀瀀 戀攀椀渀最 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 爀攀愀搀椀氀礀ഊavailable materials. OTOH It's very suceptible to water dammage if the roof ਀氀攀愀欀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀挀栀攀搀 爀漀漀昀猀 搀椀搀 攀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀 氀攀愀欀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 愀 猀氀漀眀椀猀栀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 戀甀琀 漀瘀攀爀ഊtime the roof developed leaks and the walls developed weaknesses. Yes you ਀挀漀甀氀搀 爀攀瀀愀椀爀 戀甀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 愀 氀漀漀猀椀渀最 戀愀琀琀氀攀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 攀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀 瀀椀挀欀攀搀 愀 猀瀀漀琀 渀漀琀ഊtoo far away on your home acre or so and built another house. Sometimes the ਀漀氀搀 栀漀甀猀攀 眀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀 愀 戀愀爀渀⸀  伀琀栀攀爀 琀椀洀攀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀 栀漀甀猀攀 眀愀猀 椀渀 戀攀琀琀攀爀ഊshape than usual it was the oldsters in the family that got a new little 'dower ਀栀漀甀猀攀✀⸀  䤀渀 氀愀琀攀爀 挀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 挀栀愀渀最攀搀 琀漀 猀琀漀渀攀 愀渀搀 琀椀洀戀攀爀ഊhouses were preserved from generation to generation and got that real 'old' ਀氀漀漀欀⸀ഊ ਀䨀甀猀琀 愀 渀漀琀攀 椀渀 瀀愀猀猀椀渀最⸀  吀栀攀 瀀爀漀猀瀀攀挀琀 漀昀 洀漀爀攀 渀攀愀琀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 搀攀眀氀氀椀渀最猀 愀琀ഊPennsic is exciting. I wish you well. ਀        夀䤀匀Ⰰ 䴀愀椀爀最爀攀琀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: nostrand at macol.net (Barbara Nostrand) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Seek advice for portable house ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 搀攀 䴀漀椀瘀爀攀 䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀攀ഊDate: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:28:39 -0500 ਀ഊAfter two Pennsics, your hut will never pass for new. The best thing ਀琀漀 搀漀 椀猀 琀漀 昀椀渀椀猀栀 礀漀甀爀 眀漀漀搀 猀甀爀昀愀挀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀甀氀搀ഊhave been finished back when and then let nature take its course. If ਀礀漀甀 愀爀攀 椀洀瀀愀琀椀攀渀琀 昀漀爀 椀琀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀攀搀Ⰰ 猀攀琀 椀琀 甀瀀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 戀愀挀欀ഊyard for a couple of months. Wood tends to bleach out and turn grey ਀眀椀琀栀 愀最攀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀挀挀攀氀愀爀愀琀攀搀 戀礀 攀砀瀀漀猀甀爀攀 琀漀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䘀椀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 猀愀礀猀ഊthat all houses were made out of oak? Please do not try to have your ਀眀漀漀搀 瀀爀攀琀攀渀搀 琀漀 戀攀氀漀渀最 琀漀 愀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 猀瀀攀挀椀攀猀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 洀甀猀琀 栀愀瘀攀 漀愀欀Ⰰഊthen pay for oak. Otherwise, find another species that was used in ਀礀漀甀爀 愀爀攀愀 漀昀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀                                       夀漀甀爀 䠀甀洀戀氀攀 匀攀爀瘀愀渀琀ഊ Solveig Throndardottir ਀                                       䄀洀愀琀攀甀爀 匀挀栀漀氀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊSubject: [MedEnc] Costco Carports ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㜀 匀攀瀀 ㈀     㠀㨀㌀㄀㨀㔀㄀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: "Mira (Tanya Guptill)" ਀吀漀㨀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 愀琀 攀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀吀椀洀漀爀爀愀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> As am owner of the evil costco carport .. :) i understand what you mean ਀㸀 䤀 愀洀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 漀昀 挀漀渀瘀攀爀琀椀渀最 椀琀 琀漀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 ഊ> presentable ਀ഊActually, the neatest adaptation of a Costco carport I've seen yet was ਀愀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 䄀渀 吀椀爀 䌀爀漀眀渀⸀  匀漀洀攀漀渀攀 栀愀搀 搀攀挀椀搀攀搀 栀椀猀 渀攀眀 琀攀渀琀 栀愀猀 琀栀攀ഊsame shape as an (admittedly small) thatched roof house. He put walls ਀漀渀 椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 爀攀愀氀 眀漀漀搀 搀漀漀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 眀愀猀 瘀攀爀礀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 眀栀愀琀 愀ഊdifference these changes made to this tent! He told me his next thing ਀琀漀 搀漀 眀愀猀 瀀愀椀渀琀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 漀渀 愀 爀漀氀氀 甀瀀 猀琀爀愀眀 ✀琀栀愀琀挀栀✀ 爀漀漀昀⸀  䤀ഊthought it was an interesting and original idea. ਀ഊMira ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀愀爀最愀氀椀 㰀洀愀爀最愀氀椀 愀琀 㤀㤀洀愀椀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀攀渀琀⼀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀ഊDate: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 13:25:55 -0500 ਀ഊAll of the tent suggestions are good, Panther Primitives, Four Seasons ਀吀攀渀琀洀愀猀琀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 氀椀欀攀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 眀愀渀琀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 漀昀昀ⴀ戀攀愀琀Ⰰഊhow about a gypsy varda? ਀ 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀攀渀猀氀椀渀⸀挀漀洀⼀爀愀攀⼀最礀瀀猀礀⼀眀愀最漀渀⸀栀琀洀ഊDo keep inmind that you don't have to match your persona to anything ਀攀氀猀攀 嬀最愀爀戀Ⰰ 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 最攀愀爀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀渀漀琀崀 椀昀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 ⸀⸀⸀ 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊhave generic pennsic personas that don't match their regular ones so ਀琀栀攀礀 挀愀渀 戀攀 挀漀洀昀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀 椀渀 最愀爀戀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 渀漀爀洀愀氀氀礀 眀攀愀爀Ⰰ 漀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀ഊlike viking tents or yurts that would not have been suitable for their ਀爀攀最甀氀愀爀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 氀漀戀戀礀椀渀最 洀礀 氀漀爀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 洀攀 愀 瘀愀爀搀愀 昀漀爀 渀漀渀 瀀攀渀渀猀椀挀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最ഊas he is going to a new duty station 2 states away so we will either ਀渀漀琀 戀攀 挀愀洀瀀椀渀最 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 漀爀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀爀爀椀瘀椀渀最 愀 ㈀ 瘀攀爀礀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀椀洀攀猀⸀ഊThis way, whether or not I have somebody to help me set things up or ਀氀漀愀搀 瘀攀栀椀挀氀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 栀椀琀挀栀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 猀挀栀氀攀瀀 琀漀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 眀栀攀爀攀 䤀 甀渀栀椀琀挀栀Ⰰ 挀愀洀漀ഊthe modern wheels, put on the fake wheels and decorate. Pop the top and ਀䤀✀洀 愀氀氀 猀攀琀℀ഊ ਀洀愀爀最愀氀椀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: tollhase1 at aol.com ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ 㜀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  ㄀  㠀㨀㔀㌀㨀㈀㠀 䔀䐀吀ഊSubject: Re: [spca-wascaerfrig] garage tents or the walls came tumbling down. ਀ഊDon't know about the thatch roof for sure. I just remember that it exists. ਀圀椀氀氀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 挀栀攀挀欀 漀渀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀圀愀氀氀猀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 洀愀渀礀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  伀渀攀 漀昀 洀礀 搀爀攀愀洀猀 琀漀 椀猀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 漀渀攀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 ഊpotter place in the bazaars area with a second floor. ਀ഊOr course, you can paint canvas, plywood or vinyl as you mentioned. Taking ਀㄀ⴀ㄀⼀㈀ 漀爀 琀栀椀挀欀攀爀 昀漀愀洀 愀渀搀 挀愀爀瘀椀渀最 猀琀漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 戀氀漀挀欀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀⸀ ഊRasps, hand sander works quite well. For added strength cover with ਀挀栀攀攀猀攀挀氀漀琀栀⼀洀甀猀氀椀渀⸀  䌀栀攀愀瀀 猀栀攀攀琀猀 昀爀漀洀 猀愀氀瘀愀琀椀漀渀 愀爀洀礀⼀最漀漀搀 眀椀氀氀 愀爀攀 昀椀渀攀⸀ 䄀渀搀 ഊa good polyvinyl glue (water proof) Then paint. Added texture with the use ਀漀昀 猀愀渀搀 漀爀 猀愀眀 搀甀猀琀 昀漀爀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 最爀漀甀琀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 挀氀漀琀栀攀猀 氀椀渀攀Ⰰ 甀猀攀 ഊa mixture of glue and sawdust and a cake decorator. ਀ഊThese could be full sheets or blocks added to say Luan. Blocks could overlap ਀琀漀 栀椀搀 猀攀愀洀猀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 琀栀椀猀 昀漀愀洀 愀猀 琀栀椀挀欀 愀猀 㐀⸀∀  唀猀攀搀 椀琀 昀漀爀 琀愀爀最攀琀猀⸀  ഊRemember Flame proof things. The foam has the added benefit of it being ਀椀渀猀甀氀愀琀椀漀渀⸀  䬀攀攀瀀 栀攀愀琀 椀渀 漀爀 漀甀琀⸀  圀椀渀搀漀眀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀搀搀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 ㄀ 砀㼀 ഊAnd Plexiglas painted with stained glass colours. Use of commercial fake ਀氀攀愀搀椀渀最 椀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀⸀ 䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 戀氀愀挀欀 匀椀氀椀挀漀渀攀 琀甀戀 眀愀琀攀爀 ഊsealer works as well and cheaper. These windows could open, have screens as ਀眀攀氀氀 愀猀 挀甀爀琀愀椀渀猀⸀  䐀漀漀爀猀 愀爀攀 栀愀爀搀攀爀 搀甀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀攀猀猀攀猀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀搀⸀  䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 ഊprobably go with a canvas flap to make my life easier. Or one could use a ਀戀漀砀 昀爀愀洀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 搀漀漀爀 眀椀琀栀椀渀⸀  䐀爀椀瘀攀 猀瀀椀欀攀猀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀搀 琀椀攀 ഊsecurely to the pipe structure of your tent. ਀ഊA compromise could be a fabric background and the use of soft foam so it ਀挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 爀漀氀氀攀搀 甀瀀⸀  唀匀䔀 䘀䰀䔀堀䤀䈀䰀䔀 瀀愀椀渀琀 愀渀搀 最氀甀攀⸀  䄀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀 戀礀 刀漀猀挀漀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ഊflex-glue works well. Dye and paints can be added to this with diminishing ਀爀攀琀甀爀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 爀攀琀愀椀渀 琀栀攀 挀甀爀瘀攀搀 猀栀愀瀀攀 攀瘀攀渀 眀栀攀渀 甀瀀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 ഊsun helps it straighten out. ਀ഊWould you prefer a half timbered look. Also easily done. ਀ഊFrederich ਀ഊ ਀吀漀㨀 猀瀀挀愀ⴀ眀愀猀挀愀攀爀昀爀椀最 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊFrom: tollhase1 at aol.com ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ 㠀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  ㄀ ㄀㈀㨀㄀㘀㨀 ㄀ 䔀䐀吀ഊSubject: Re: [spca-wascaerfrig] garage tents or the walls came tumbling down. ਀ഊSo one could use cotton clothes lines as a grout look. Or, use a mixture of ਀猀愀眀 搀甀猀琀Ⰰ 最氀甀攀 愀渀搀 漀爀 瀀愀椀渀琀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 琀礀瀀攀⸀  吀栀攀 氀愀琀琀攀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀攀攀搀 愀 ഊcake decorator to apply easily. ਀ഊFrederich ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ琀攀渀琀ⴀ愀氀琀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㄀㤀 漀昀 ㄀㤀ഊ ਊ