p-tents-msg - 9/24/08 ਀ഊPeriod tents and documentation sources. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: pavilions-msg, p-tents-art, p-tent-const-art, tent-fabrics-msg, tent-making-msg, tent-sources-msg, tents-weather-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: sbloch at euler.ucsd.edu (Steve Bloch) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㤀 䄀瀀爀 㤀㄀ 　　㨀　㐀㨀　㄀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀氀愀眀戀欀眀渀 愀琀 䈀唀䄀䌀䌀䄀⸀䈀䤀吀一䔀吀 ⠀夀愀愀欀漀瘀 䠀愀䴀椀稀爀愀挀栀椀⼀䠀䨀䘀攀氀搀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>I am looking for info on Middle-Eastern style tents. ਀㸀匀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀㨀 䠀漀眀 琀漀 戀甀椀氀搀 猀愀洀攀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 椀琀 椀猀 氀椀欀攀氀礀ഊ>to cost to do so. (Also how long it would take.) ਀㸀䤀✀搀 䤀搀攀愀氀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 戀椀最 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 猀琀愀渀搀ഊ>up in, but I would also be interested in anything smaller. ਀ഊOn Cariadoc's suggestion a year ago I looked up a wonderful book by ਀吀漀爀瘀愀氀搀 䘀愀攀最爀攀 攀渀琀椀琀氀攀搀 ∀吀攀渀琀猀㨀 琀栀攀 䄀爀挀栀椀琀攀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 一漀洀愀搀猀∀⸀  䤀琀ഊincludes a chapter on Bedouin and related tents, a chapter on Turkish ਀戀氀愀挀欀ⴀ琀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 愀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 漀渀 一漀爀琀栀 䄀洀攀爀椀挀愀渀 琀椀瀀椀猀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 漀渀 猀甀戀ⴀ匀愀栀愀爀愀渀ഊfelt and hide tents, one on yurts, and others I've forgotten. For each ਀琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 琀攀渀琀 䘀愀攀最爀攀 最椀瘀攀猀 愀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀礀 漀昀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 漀昀琀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 猀挀愀氀攀ഊplans and elevations, discussion of materials and reasons they are so ਀挀栀漀猀攀渀Ⰰ 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀 漀昀 昀愀猀琀攀渀椀渀最猀 ⸀⸀⸀ 愀 爀攀愀氀 琀爀攀愀猀甀爀攀ⴀ琀爀漀瘀攀⸀ഊIn specific, I'm (still) planning to build a more-or-less Bedouin tent ਀⠀愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 挀氀漀猀攀爀 琀漀 䴀漀爀漀挀挀愀渀 䈀攀爀戀攀爀 猀琀礀氀攀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 椀琀 爀愀椀渀猀 椀渀 䴀漀爀漀挀挀漀Ⰰഊand besides Morocco's just across the Strait from my home). The const- ਀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀椀挀椀琀礀 椀琀猀攀氀昀㨀 愀 爀攀挀琀愀渀最氀攀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 栀攀氀搀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 瀀漀氀攀猀ഊat center and edges, guyed to stakes in all directions, with optional ਀眀愀氀氀猀 ⠀漀昀 氀椀最栀琀攀爀 昀愀戀爀椀挀⤀ 栀甀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 攀搀最攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀 戀礀 瀀椀渀猀⸀ഊFaegre describes a variety of styles, some of which have center poles ਀漀瘀攀爀 ㌀ 洀 氀漀渀最⸀  圀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 洀愀渀愀最攀搀 礀攀琀 椀猀 昀椀渀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀ഊfabric.... ਀ഊStephen Bloch ਀猀戀氀漀挀栀 愀琀 洀愀琀栀⸀甀挀猀搀⸀攀搀甀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: BERDANJ at YALEVM.BITNET (Susan) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀　 䄀瀀爀 㤀㄀ ㄀㌀㨀㔀㈀㨀㈀　 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: The Internet ਀ഊAllison Welch: ਀ഊWrite or call Mediaeval Miscellania, 7006 Raleigh Road, Annandale, VA 22003 ਀               ⠀㜀　㌀⤀ ㌀㔀㐀ⴀ㜀㜀㄀㄀ഊand order their booklet "Period Pavilions". It has all the how-to information ਀昀漀爀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 愀瀀瀀氀椀挀愀戀氀攀 琀漀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀                                                    䄀洀漀爀攀琀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: ddfr at quads.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀　 䄀瀀爀 㤀㄀ 　　㨀㐀㄀㨀㐀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: University of Chicago ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊ ਀夀愀愀欀漀瘀 愀猀欀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀ 䘀漀爀 愀 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀ഊthe "Black Tent" (bedouin) and its many relatives, see the book ਀∀吀攀渀琀猀㨀 吀栀攀 䄀爀挀栀椀琀攀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 一漀洀愀搀猀∀ 戀礀 吀漀爀瘀愀氀搀 䘀愀攀最爀攀Ⰰ 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀ഊby Stephen Bloch in his posting. It has only a little historical ਀椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 戀甀琀 愀 氀漀琀 漀渀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊminiature Berber tent of red wool that I used at Argent (our pavilion ਀椀猀 愀 戀椀琀 氀愀爀最攀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀漀琀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 愀椀爀 瀀漀爀琀愀戀氀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䄀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 䘀愀攀最爀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀攀爀戀攀爀 琀攀渀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀 最漀愀琀✀猀 眀漀漀氀⸀ 䤀ഊdo not have a source, so I used ordinary, cloak weight wool, with ਀愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 氀攀渀最琀栀眀椀猀攀 爀攀椀渀昀漀爀挀椀渀最 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 漀昀 栀攀愀瘀礀 挀漀琀琀漀渀 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀ഊseams. I do not know if they are necessary. The standard tent of this ਀猀漀爀琀 栀愀猀 爀攀椀渀昀漀爀挀椀渀最 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 挀爀漀猀猀眀椀猀攀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 氀攀渀最琀栀眀椀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀ⴀ䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀 ∀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀∀ 琀礀瀀攀 琀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀ഊthe miniatures in the Houghton Shahnamah reproduction available from ਀琀栀攀 䴀攀琀爀漀瀀漀氀椀琀愀渀 䴀甀猀攀甀洀 椀渀 一夀⸀ഊ ਀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: mcs at unl.edu (michael straatmann) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: sunshades (was: Tent size) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㠀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ ㄀㤀㨀㌀㌀㨀㔀　 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln ਀ഊcozzlab at garnet.berkeley.edu () writes: ਀ഊ>Oh, I think you could have a sunshade of some kind in a period encampment. ਀㸀夀漀甀 琀愀欀攀 愀 挀栀甀渀欀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 椀琀 甀瀀 漀渀 瀀漀氀攀猀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 猀漀洀攀ഊ>extra shade: this is not an out-of-period concept. But in the period ਀㸀攀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀 琀栀攀 猀甀渀猀栀愀搀攀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 昀愀戀爀椀挀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 戀氀甀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀爀漀琀栀攀愀 漀昀 䌀愀攀爀ⴀ䴀礀爀搀搀椀渀ऀऀ䐀漀爀漀琀栀礀 䨀⸀ 䠀攀礀搀琀ഊ>Mists/Mists/West UC Berkeley ਀㸀䄀爀最攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀 挀爀漀猀猀 昀漀爀洀攀✀攀 猀愀戀氀攀ऀऀ挀漀稀稀氀愀戀 愀琀 最愀爀渀攀琀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀ഊ ਀䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 愀渀礀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀 ഊfor this. A local Laurel in tents and I have been having this ਀愀爀最甀洀攀渀琀 昀漀爀 礀攀愀爀猀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀 瀀爀漀瘀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 ഊEast, but have failed in showing decisive evidence in Europe. I would ਀开氀漀瘀攀开 琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀攀 栀攀爀 眀爀漀渀最⸀ 㬀ⴀ⤀  䈀礀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀ഊones (shown primarily in late period Turkish and Persian minatures) ਀愀瀀瀀攀愀爀 琀漀 戀攀 爀甀最猀 愀渀搀 琀愀瀀攀猀琀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 渀漀琀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 愀猀 眀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀⸀ ഊI would also be interested in seeing any docs. on the attachment of ਀猀甀渀猀栀愀搀攀猀 琀漀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀  䄀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 椀渀 匀䌀䄀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 攀愀猀琀攀爀渀 猀琀甀昀昀ഊshows a decisive maybe, and I have seen no European examples. ਀ഊThanks ਀洀椀猀栀愀ഊ-- ਀洀挀猀 愀琀 甀渀氀椀渀昀漀⸀甀渀氀⸀攀搀甀   㰀ⴀⴀ⠀漀 漀⤀ⴀ㰀㰀   洀椀欀攀猀 愀琀 甀渀氀氀椀戀⸀甀渀氀⸀攀搀甀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀戀愀爀渀攀猀 愀琀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀⸀甀挀猀⸀椀渀搀椀愀渀愀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀琀栀漀洀愀猀 眀爀攀渀琀洀漀爀攀 戀愀爀渀攀猀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Period tentage ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䤀渀搀椀愀渀愀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊDate: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 20:37:36 GMT ਀ഊIn article <1993Jun2.083627.7965 at csusac.csus.edu> batest at athena.ecs.csus.edu (Tim Bates) writes: ਀㸀 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 椀搀攀愀猀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 ✀挀漀渀瘀攀爀琀✀ 愀渀 䄀爀洀礀ഊ>GP-small,medium,large into a period looking pavilion. ਀ഊBurn it down and build a real pavilion on the ashes. ਀ഊI've seen GP tents and the color and cut is utterly unlike a medieval ਀猀琀礀氀攀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀⸀ 䔀瘀攀渀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀攀爀攀 琀漀 爀攀瀀愀椀渀琀 椀琀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 搀愀最猀 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀ഊedge it would still look like a dressed up GP{whatever}. ਀ऀ吀漀 猀琀愀爀琀 眀椀琀栀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 栀椀最栀攀爀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀✀搀 栀愀瘀攀ഊto make the line of the roof more peaked to make it look right. ਀ऀ               ഊ This is a shame, since GP tents are virtually indestructable and ਀眀攀愀琀栀攀爀瀀爀漀漀昀⸀ ഊ ਀䰀漀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀搀昀爀 愀琀 焀甀愀搀猀⸀甀挀栀椀挀愀最漀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀搀愀瘀椀搀 搀椀爀攀挀琀漀爀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀⤀ഊSubject: Re: period encampments ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀栀椀挀愀最漀ഊDate: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 05:02:19 GMT ਀ഊTangwystyl mentions a mid-sixteenth century Italian book with ਀搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀 漀昀 昀愀渀挀礀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀⸀ 吀栀漀猀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 猀甀挀栀 琀栀椀渀最猀 洀椀最栀琀ഊwant to look at the _Ain I Akbari_, which has pictures of fancy 16th ਀挀⸀ 䴀漀最甀氀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Kelly.Coco at mvs.udel.EDU ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Tents, walls, encampments, etc...... ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀ 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㄀㨀　㌀㨀　㜀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊOrganization: The Internet ਀ഊ Steiner sends Greetings unto the Rialto! ਀ഊ A couple of points from my FWIW file; ਀ഊ Having started out my medieval experience with a (ugh!) dome tent, I ਀   焀甀椀挀欀氀礀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 眀愀礀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 氀攀猀猀 漀昀 愀 瘀椀猀甀愀氀 攀礀攀猀漀爀攀 ⠀椀渀 洀礀 漀眀渀ഊ eyes that is!) Easiest and cheapest would be to erect a bedsheet "A" ਀   昀爀愀洀攀 琀攀渀琀 ⨀漀瘀攀爀⨀ 琀栀攀 搀漀洀攀 琀攀渀琀⸀ 一漀渀攀 挀愀渀 猀攀攀 椀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀栀攀攀琀猀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊ need to be water proofed and there is little additional burden to haul. ਀   䔀瘀攀渀琀甀愀氀氀礀 䤀 最漀琀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 栀攀愀瘀礀 搀甀琀礀 瀀愀椀渀琀攀爀猀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 搀爀漀瀀 挀氀漀琀栀Ⰰ 眀愀琀攀爀ⴀഊ proofed it and hung it on a line A-frame stlye. I *still* use it and ਀   琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀漀氀搀猀 愀渀搀 洀椀氀搀攀眀猀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 爀攀猀椀搀攀 椀渀 椀琀 栀愀瘀攀 最椀瘀攀渀ഊ it a nice look. I do use a plastic tarp underneath, but none can see it. ਀   䤀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 戀爀漀欀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀漀 栀愀猀✀渀琀 戀攀攀渀Ⰰ 戀攀挀漀洀攀 愀 ⨀最漀漀搀⨀ 猀挀爀漀甀渀最攀Ⰰ 䴀漀猀琀 漀昀ഊ what you will need can be found cheaply, or free! ਀ഊ The chronicles of Joinville, that of St Louis, I believe in Ch. 10 has ਀   愀 眀漀渀搀爀漀甀猀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀甀氀琀愀渀猀 攀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 洀甀挀栀 眀漀爀琀栀ഊ the few minutes it take to read for those unfamiliar with the work. ਀   吀栀攀 挀愀洀瀀 椀猀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀搀 愀猀 戀攀椀渀最 猀甀爀爀漀甀渀搀攀搀 椀渀 眀愀氀氀猀 漀昀 戀氀甀攀 昀愀戀爀椀挀Ⰰ 琀栀攀ഊ same material as the pavillions are made of as well. Towers are described ਀   愀猀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀 瀀漀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 愀最愀椀渀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 椀渀 戀氀甀攀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀甀琀猀椀搀攀 漀昀ഊ the camp all one sees is a jumble of blue shapes. The good sultan even ਀   栀愀搀 愀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀攀搀 椀琀猀攀氀昀 昀漀爀 戀愀琀栀椀渀最 愀渀搀 愀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 眀愀氀欀眀愀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀ഊ guessed it, in blue, leading down to it. In many ways this is what we do ਀   愀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 愀氀戀攀椀琀 眀椀琀栀 洀漀爀攀 瘀愀爀椀攀搀 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀渀愀氀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀⸀䄀猀椀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊ obvious privacy obtained, our *anachronisms* are out of sight, everything ਀   ⨀氀漀漀欀猀⨀ 洀漀爀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 愀琀洀漀猀瀀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 攀渀栀愀渀挀攀搀⸀ 圀愀氀氀猀⸀ 䜀漀琀琀愀 氀漀瘀✀攀洀℀ഊ ਀                                   嘀愀氀攀Ⰰഊ Steiner ਀                      ⠀圀栀漀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 搀爀攀愀洀猀 漀昀 愀 洀漀爀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀愀洀瀀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: ddfr at midway.uchicago.edu (1/8/95) ਀吀漀㨀 䴀愀爀欀 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ഊ ਀䴀愀椀氀⨀䰀椀渀欀글 匀䴀吀倀               刀䔀㸀倀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀⼀琀攀渀琀 瀀漀氀攀猀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 琀栀椀渀最 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 挀栀愀渀最攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 昀漀爀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀⸀ 圀栀愀琀 䤀ഊdescribe works, but I have no evidence that it is period. One of our local ਀挀漀甀瀀氀攀猀 洀愀搀攀 愀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 愀 搀攀猀椀最渀 戀礀 愀 䌀愀氀漀渀琀椀爀 䌀漀甀渀琀攀猀猀 眀栀漀 栀愀猀ഊdone a lot of work with pavillions. The shoulder is a rope sewed roughly ਀眀栀攀爀攀 洀礀 搀漀眀攀氀猀 愀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 戀甀琀琀漀渀 漀渀⸀ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀 挀愀渀 最椀瘀攀 愀ഊprecise description, not having been involved in making it, but I think it ਀椀猀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊDavid Friedman ਀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 洀椀搀眀愀礀⸀甀挀栀椀挀愀最漀⸀攀搀甀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: cav at bnr.ca (Rick Cavasin) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: A *NEW* Tent Thing ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㤀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㜀㨀㄀㈀㨀　㌀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. ਀ഊIn article <941206155228.24c0110e at vax2.utulsa.edu>, IMC at vax2.utulsa.edu (I. Marc Carlson) writes: ਀簀㸀 䤀 眀愀猀 愀猀欀攀搀 愀 昀攀眀 搀愀礀猀 愀最漀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 䤀 欀渀攀眀 漀昀 愀渀礀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀ഊ|> the "Classic Viking A-Frame" tent. When, after torture, I confessed ਀簀㸀 洀礀 椀最渀漀爀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 䤀 猀眀漀爀攀 琀漀 瀀愀猀猀 琀栀攀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀ഊ|> informational Pack Rats :) ਀簀㸀 ഊ|> Any hints? ਀簀㸀 ഊ|> A simple scholar, ਀簀㸀 ഊ|> Diarmuit Ui Dhuinn ਀簀㸀 ऀ唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 一漀爀琀栀欀攀攀瀀ഊ|> Northkeepshire, Ansteorra ਀簀㸀 ऀ⠀䤀⸀ 䴀愀爀挀 䌀愀爀氀猀漀渀⼀䤀䴀䌀 愀琀 瘀愀砀㈀⸀甀琀甀氀猀愀⸀攀搀甀⤀ഊ|> ਀ഊAfter several unsuccessful attempts to remember, I finally brought in ਀眀栀愀琀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀⸀  吀栀椀猀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 ✀䜀甀椀搀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 匀栀椀瀀 䴀甀猀攀甀洀✀㨀ഊ ਀  吀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 ✀挀愀洀瀀 戀攀搀猀✀ 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 愀挀挀攀猀猀漀爀椀攀猀 眀栀攀渀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀氀椀渀最ഊ by ship. Probably most of the crew slept out in the open when the ship was ਀  椀渀 瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 瀀爀漀洀椀渀攀渀琀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀猀 漀渀 戀漀愀爀搀 眀攀爀攀ഊ provided with beds adn with a tent to protect them from wind and weather. ਀  䘀爀愀洀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀眀漀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 昀漀爀 愀 栀漀甀猀攀ⴀ猀栀愀瀀攀搀 戀漀漀琀栀 眀攀爀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 伀猀攀戀攀爀最ഊ ship, as well as beds. The Gokstad ship had one tent and six beds, one ਀  漀爀渀愀琀攀氀礀 挀愀爀瘀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 瀀氀愀椀渀⸀  吀栀攀 爀攀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 猀欀攀琀挀栀 猀栀漀眀猀 漀渀攀 漀昀 ഊ the frames from the Oseberg find. Only the animals' heads were visible ਀  眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀椀氀挀氀漀琀栀 栀愀搀 戀攀攀渀 猀琀爀攀琀挀栀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 昀爀愀洀攀⸀  吀栀攀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 戀攀搀猀ഊ from the Oseberg find are so damaged that they cannot be displayed; copies ਀  漀昀 ㌀ 戀攀搀猀 猀琀愀渀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最愀氀氀攀爀礀 愀戀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀爀愀渀挀攀 搀漀漀爀⸀  吀栀攀 瘀攀爀最攀 戀漀愀爀搀猀ഊ from the Gokstad tent hang over the small boats, and at the bottom of the ਀  ✀㐀琀栀 眀椀渀最✀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 琀攀砀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 椀洀瀀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀猀攀 琀攀渀琀 昀爀愀洀攀猀 愀爀攀 椀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀ഊwood/bark covered burial chambers that were erected on the ships (they are ਀搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 椀渀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最甀椀搀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀一漀琀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 愀渀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 椀琀 瀀漀椀渀琀猀 琀漀 愀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀ഊsource. ਀ഊCheers, Rick C. ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 圀䤀匀䠀 愀琀 甀爀椀愀挀挀⸀甀爀椀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀倀攀琀攀爀 刀漀猀攀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀攀渀琀猀ഊDate: 13 Mar 1995 16:15:52 -0500 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀ഊ ਀㸀匀漀洀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀最漀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀 愀 戀攀搀漀甀椀渀 琀攀渀琀ഊ>(also called pushtun, pathan, or "leather butterflies"). I failed to save ਀㸀琀栀攀猀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀漀眀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 吀栀攀ഊ>instructions I recall created a tent large enough to sleep 20 or so people ਀㸀愀渀搀 眀愀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 氀愀爀最攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀圀攀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀 猀甀挀栀 愀 琀攀渀琀 戀甀琀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 猀椀稀攀℀ഊ> ਀䤀琀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 洀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀㨀ഊ ਀䐀攀瀀攀渀搀猀 漀渀 眀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 䄀爀愀戀⸀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 漀昀 䬀甀爀搀椀猀栀Ⰰ 䴀漀漀爀椀猀栀ⰀഊBerber, Bedoin, and Baluchi(**) "tents". (the Kurdish and Baluchi seem to have ਀爀攀攀搀 漀爀 眀椀挀欀攀爀 猀椀搀攀眀愀氀氀猀⤀  䄀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀 愀 爀攀挀琀愀渀最甀氀愀爀 爀漀漀昀Ⰰഊheld up by varying systems of supports, and stays, and then separate side ਀眀愀氀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 椀渀琀攀爀椀漀爀 搀椀瘀椀搀攀爀猀⸀  䄀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀ഊthe black belly-hairs of goats. :-) If you'll send me your snail-mail ਀愀搀搀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 䤀✀氀氀 洀愀椀氀 礀漀甀 洀礀 渀漀琀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 昀漀爀 渀漀眀㨀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䈀攀搀漀椀渀 琀攀渀琀 栀愀猀 ㌀⠀⨀⤀ 瀀愀椀爀 漀昀 瀀漀氀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 瀀愀椀爀 戀攀椀渀最 愀 戀椀琀 琀愀氀氀攀爀ⰀഊThe top end is forked, and stuck through loops attached to the overhead ਀挀愀渀漀瀀礀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀愀渀漀瀀礀 攀砀琀攀渀搀猀 戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀氀攀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 氀攀昀琀 愀渀搀 爀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀琀愀礀猀ഊextend from the ends, so that the canopy has extended eaves. ਀匀琀愀礀猀 愀氀猀漀 攀砀琀攀渀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀猀攀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 琀漀ഊthe poles, and go more steeply to the ground. ਀䄀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 眀愀氀氀ⴀ戀椀琀 椀猀 瀀椀渀渀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 甀渀搀攀爀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀漀瀀礀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀愀琀ഊboth sides and the back are closed off, and a bit (a yard or two?) extends ਀戀攀礀漀渀搀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀漀瀀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀猀攀 ✀眀椀渀最猀✀ 愀爀攀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀 最甀礀猀ഊfrom the poles.. An interior wall separates the male area from the ਀昀攀洀愀氀攀 愀爀攀愀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀攀洀愀氀攀 愀爀攀愀 椀猀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 氀愀爀最攀爀⸀ഊIt isn't in the picture, but from other sources, there may be a third ਀眀愀氀氀⼀瀀愀渀攀氀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 昀氀椀瀀瀀攀搀 甀瀀 漀渀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀愀渀漀瀀礀ഊwhen not in use. ਀吀栀攀 漀甀琀攀爀 眀愀氀氀猀 愀爀攀 眀攀椀最栀琀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 眀椀琀栀 爀甀戀戀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀ഊ +--=P=======P=======P=--+ <--Something like that ਀      簀  ℀                 ℀  簀ഊ | ! ! | ਀      簀  ℀                 ℀  簀ഊ +--!P-------P-------P!--+ ਀         ℀                 ℀ഊ ! ! ਀ഊ ਀⠀⨀⤀  䴀漀爀攀 漀爀 昀攀眀攀爀 瀀愀椀爀猀 漀昀 瀀漀氀攀猀Ⰰ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 栀漀眀 戀椀最 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 椀猀⸀ഊ(**) What's a Baluchi? ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: ddfr at quads.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 䄀爀愀戀⼀渀漀洀愀搀 琀攀渀琀ഊKeywords: pushtun, pathan, "leather butterflies", bedouin tent ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀栀椀挀愀最漀ഊDate: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 17:05:31 GMT ਀ഊSiobhan asks about bedouin tents. I do not know about the particular ਀瀀漀猀琀椀渀最 猀栀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 愀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 开吀攀渀琀猀㨀ഊArchitecture of the Nomads_. I have forgotten the author's name, but ਀椀琀 栀愀搀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 爀愀渀最椀渀最ഊroughly from Morocco to central Asia. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀栀愀搀眀椀挀欀 愀琀 昀渀搀挀搀⸀昀渀愀氀⸀最漀瘀 ⠀䬀攀椀琀栀 䌀栀愀搀眀椀挀欀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 䄀爀愀戀⼀渀漀洀愀搀 琀攀渀琀ഊDate: 13 Mar 1995 05:24:09 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䘀攀爀洀椀氀愀戀 䌀漀洀瀀甀琀椀渀最 䐀椀瘀椀猀椀漀渀ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 㰀䐀㔀䌀㜀䠀㠀⸀㤀漀漀 愀琀 洀椀搀眀愀礀⸀甀挀栀椀挀愀最漀⸀攀搀甀㸀Ⰰ 搀搀昀爀 愀琀 焀甀愀搀猀⸀甀挀栀椀挀愀最漀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀搀愀瘀椀搀 搀椀爀攀挀琀漀爀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> ਀㸀 匀椀漀戀栀愀渀 愀猀欀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 戀攀搀漀甀椀渀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 搀漀 渀漀琀 欀渀漀眀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀ഊ> posting she mentions, but I would recommend a book called _Tents: ਀㸀 䄀爀挀栀椀琀攀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 一漀洀愀搀猀开⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 昀漀爀最漀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀 愀甀琀栀漀爀✀猀 渀愀洀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊ> it had a lot of detailed information on related designs ranging ਀㸀 爀漀甀最栀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 䴀漀爀漀挀挀漀 琀漀 挀攀渀琀爀愀氀 䄀猀椀愀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 爀攀氀攀瘀愀渀琀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀㨀ഊ ਀ऀ吀攀渀琀猀㨀  䄀爀挀栀椀琀攀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 一漀洀愀渀搀猀ഊ by Torvald Faegre ਀ഊ Published by Anchor Books, Anchor Press/Doubleday ਀ऀऀ     䜀愀爀搀攀渀 䌀椀琀礀Ⰰ 一攀眀 夀漀爀欀  ㄀㤀㜀㤀ഊ ਀ऀ䤀匀䈀一㨀  　ⴀ㌀㠀㔀ⴀ㄀㄀㘀㔀㘀ⴀ堀ഊ ਀ऀ䰀椀戀爀愀爀礀 漀昀 䌀漀渀最爀攀猀猀 䌀愀琀愀氀漀最 䌀愀爀搀 一甀洀戀攀爀㨀 㜀㜀ⴀ㈀㔀㔀㠀㠀ഊ ਀ऀऀऀऀⴀ䬀攀椀琀栀 䌀栀愀搀眀椀挀欀ഊ Austin Chadwyck of Normandy ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀挀猀 愀琀 甀渀氀椀渀昀漀⸀甀渀氀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䴀 匀琀爀愀愀琀洀愀渀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 眀愀氀氀猀ഊDate: 31 Mar 1995 22:07:00 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 一攀戀爀愀猀欀愀ⴀⴀ䰀椀渀挀漀氀渀ऀഊ ਀䴀 匀琀爀愀愀琀洀愀渀渀 ⠀洀挀猀 愀琀 甀渀氀椀渀昀漀⸀甀渀氀⸀攀搀甀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㨀 䄀猀 䄀稀攀氀椀渀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 吀甀爀欀椀猀栀 愀渀搀 倀攀爀猀椀愀渀 攀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 漀昀琀攀渀 ഊ: potrayed with cloth walls around them. ਀㨀 吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 猀漀洀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 漀渀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 眀漀漀搀挀甀琀猀 漀昀 猀攀椀最攀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 ഊ: seem to illustrate cloth walls as well. ਀㨀 刀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 甀瀀漀渀 爀攀焀甀攀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀伀䬀Ⰰ 昀漀甀渀搀 洀礀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀⸀  ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 匀椀渀最氀攀 䰀攀愀昀 圀漀漀搀挀甀琀 ㄀㔀　　ⴀ㄀㔀㔀　ഊVolume II ਀刀攀瘀椀猀攀搀 愀渀搀 䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 圀愀氀琀攀爀 䰀⸀ 匀琀爀愀甀猀猀ഊHacker Art Books, Inc. 1974 ਀䤀匀䈀一 　ⴀ㠀㜀㠀㄀㜀ⴀ㄀㈀㔀ⴀ㠀ഊ ਀瀀⸀ 㘀㐀㘀 戀礀 䰀甀挀愀猀 䌀爀愀渀愀挀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 夀漀甀渀最攀爀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 吀甀爀欀椀猀栀 愀渀搀 倀攀爀猀椀愀渀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀渀礀 戀漀漀欀 漀渀 ഊTurkish/Persian miniatures should have a couple, tho' not ubiquitious ਀⠀琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 椀猀⤀ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 挀漀洀洀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀䴀椀欀栀愀椀氀 一椀欀漀氀愀攀瘀椀挀栀Ⰰ 䌀愀氀漀渀琀椀爀ഊmcs at unlinfo.unl.edu ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀爀樀漀渀攀猀 愀琀 甀挀氀椀渀欀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 刀漀猀攀 䨀漀渀攀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 眀愀氀氀猀ഊDate: 4 Apr 1995 05:18:57 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀ഊ ਀䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 搀愀琀愀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀甀戀樀攀挀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀 ㄀㘀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 ഊsketchbook (published as "Il Libro del Sarto" that includes over a dozen ਀搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 琀攀渀琀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀 攀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 甀猀攀 ഊmock "walls". They don't appear to be fabric but are obviously some sort ਀漀昀 琀栀椀渀Ⰰ 昀氀椀洀猀礀 猀甀戀猀琀愀渀挀攀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀攀搀 愀琀 椀渀琀攀爀瘀愀氀猀 戀礀 瀀漀猀琀猀 猀攀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 ഊground. The "walls" generally stretch between tents set at the corners of ਀琀栀攀 攀渀挀氀漀猀甀爀攀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 ∀洀愀椀渀∀ 琀攀渀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀攀渀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ഊenclosure. ਀ഊTangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 眀椀氀搀最漀漀猀攀 愀琀 最愀琀攀眀愀礀⸀攀挀渀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䬀攀椀琀栀 䌀甀渀渀椀渀最栀愀洀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀䌀攀氀琀椀挀 吀攀渀琀 䤀渀昀漀ഊDate: 7 Jun 1995 16:34:09 -0700 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 圀攀猀琀 䌀漀愀猀琀 䌀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 倀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀ഊ ਀䄀最愀椀渀 栀攀爀攀 眀攀 最漀⸀ഊTwo types of tents would be period and accurate. ਀㄀崀 吀栀攀 刀漀洀愀渀 猀琀礀氀攀 眀愀氀氀 琀攀渀琀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ㄀猀琀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䈀䌀 ഊthru to the American Civil war. The are large airy cheap and correct for ਀匀挀漀琀氀愀渀搀⸀  吀栀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 猀氀攀瀀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 ഊwhile moving from point a to point b is a foolish. Herdsmen would have ਀栀愀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀 眀栀椀氀攀 琀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 栀攀爀搀猀 琀漀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 瀀愀猀琀甀爀攀⸀ഊ2] The costal area shows evidence of fishing camps [extant drawings] that ਀眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 昀椀猀栀攀爀洀攀渀 猀氀攀攀瀀椀渀最 椀渀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 猀琀礀氀攀 ഊtriangle tents. These tents would have been much like the Gostad bog ਀昀椀渀搀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䬀攀椀琀栀 䌀甀渀渀椀渀最栀愀洀ഊCain MacRob MhicMiron Connyhaim of Connyhaim ਀ ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀攀氀琀椀挀 愀琀 猀漀瘀攀爀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀匀琀甀愀爀琀 䨀漀猀攀瀀栀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀䌀攀氀琀椀挀 吀攀渀琀 䤀渀昀漀ഊDate: 12 Jun 1995 15:17:40 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䌀攀氀琀椀挀 䌀甀氀琀甀爀攀猀ഊ ਀䤀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 㰀㌀爀㔀搀㄀栀␀搀挀㠀 愀琀 最愀琀攀眀愀礀⸀攀挀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀Ⰰ 眀椀氀搀最漀漀猀攀 愀琀 最愀琀攀眀愀礀⸀攀挀渀⸀挀漀洀 猀愀礀猀⸀⸀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䄀最愀椀渀 栀攀爀攀 眀攀 最漀⸀ഊ>Two types of tents wouldbe period and accurate. ਀㸀㄀崀 吀栀攀 刀漀洀愀渀 猀琀礀氀攀 眀愀氀氀 琀攀渀琀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ㄀猀琀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䈀䌀 ഊ>thru to the American Civil war. ਀圀栀攀爀攀 搀椀搀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀㼀 䤀 愀洀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀 ഊwhile merchanting and would like to know more. ਀  吀栀攀 挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 猀氀攀瀀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀 ഊ>while moving from point a to point b is a foolish. Herdsmen would have ਀㸀栀愀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀 眀栀椀氀攀 琀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 栀攀爀搀猀 琀漀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 瀀愀猀琀甀爀攀⸀ഊHighlanders did sleep in the open. There are accounts of how they would wet their ਀瀀氀愀椀搀猀Ⰰ 眀爀愀瀀 琀栀攀渀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最漀 琀漀 猀氀攀攀瀀 猀栀攀氀琀攀爀攀搀 戀礀 愀 爀漀挀欀 漀爀 愀 最漀爀猀攀 ഊbush, and this was in the winter time! ਀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 椀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 眀椀猀栀 琀漀 攀洀甀氀愀琀攀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 ഊpre- Braveheart/Rob Roy Highland Scots persona, so I am looking for a period tent. ਀匀琀甀椀搀栀愀爀琀 䴀愀爀琀愀椀渀渀 䴀愀挀 䐀栀漀洀栀渀愀椀氀氀ഊCeltic Cultures ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀爀樀漀渀攀猀 愀琀 甀挀氀椀渀欀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 刀漀猀攀 䨀漀渀攀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䌀攀氀琀椀挀 吀攀渀琀 䤀渀昀漀ഊDate: 16 Jun 1995 18:37:41 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀ഊ ਀䴀愀搀漀挀 ⠀一䄀匀䠀开䨀伀䠀一⼀䠀倀䈀刀䤀吀开䌀㘀 愀琀 栀瀀挀瀀戀氀愀⸀戀爀椀⸀栀瀀⸀挀漀洀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㨀 ऀ圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 漀昀 圀攀氀猀栀 琀攀渀琀猀 戀甀琀ഊ: have so far drawn a blank. Believe me, we have had far more than ਀㨀   愀 挀甀爀猀漀爀礀 猀攀愀爀挀栀⸀ഊ: It would appear that the Welsh teulu were semi-transient, ਀㨀   洀漀瘀椀渀最 琀栀攀爀攀 挀愀琀琀氀攀 昀爀漀洀 氀漀眀氀愀渀搀 琀漀 栀椀最栀氀愀渀搀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊ: season, and we assume that they had proper housing in each location. ਀㨀 ऀ吀栀攀 䬀椀渀最 愀渀搀 栀椀猀 栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀攀愀搀 愀渀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 渀漀洀愀搀椀挀ഊ: lifestyle, travelling from place to place. The duties of the ਀㨀   瀀攀愀猀愀渀琀猀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 琀栀攀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 愀渀搀 洀愀椀渀琀攀渀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 栀愀氀氀猀ഊ: for the kings visits. ਀㨀         䔀瘀攀渀 漀渀 挀愀洀瀀愀椀最渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀栀愀渀挀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 戀爀攀渀椀渀✀猀 眀愀爀戀愀渀搀ഊ: could rely on these halls up to a point. ਀ഊ: So, there you go. No tents in Wales during our period ( 900-1066) ਀㨀   䔀砀挀攀瀀琀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀猀 甀猀攀搀 戀礀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 琀爀愀搀攀爀猀 䤀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀⸀ഊ ਀夀漀甀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀 氀椀琀攀爀愀爀礀 开爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀开 琀漀 琀攀渀琀猀 椀渀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 圀愀氀攀猀⸀ ⠀一漀琀 椀渀 ഊpre-1066 Wales, I'll admit -- but then you can't find primary literary ਀攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 洀甀挀栀 漀昀 开愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最开 椀渀 瀀爀攀ⴀ㄀　㘀㘀 圀愀氀攀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀 ഊjust don't exist.) ਀ഊThe most convenient source for this is the entries in the "Geiriadur ਀倀爀椀昀礀猀最漀氀 䌀礀洀爀甀∀ 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀猀 ∀瀀愀戀攀氀氀∀Ⰰ ∀瀀愀氀氀∀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ∀氀氀甀攀猀琀∀⸀ 吀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 ഊis a borrowing of the same root as "pavillion", the second is also taken ਀昀爀漀洀 䰀愀琀椀渀 昀爀漀洀 ∀瀀愀氀氀愀∀ ⠀洀愀渀琀氀攀Ⰰ 挀氀漀愀欀⤀ 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 ഊmake-shift origin of some examples, while the last shows its ਀漀爀椀最椀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 搀攀爀椀瘀愀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 ∀氀氀甀∀ ⠀愀爀洀礀Ⰰ 栀漀猀琀 漀昀 洀攀渀⤀ ⬀ ഊ"gwest" (lodging, hospitality, shelter). ਀ഊ13th c. (a poem in the Book of Aneirin) - rac PEBYLL madawc "in front of ਀䴀愀搀漀最✀猀 琀攀渀琀∀ഊ ਀㄀㐀琀栀 挀⸀ ⠀䈀爀甀琀 礀 吀礀眀礀猀漀最椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀 圀攀氀猀栀 挀栀爀漀渀椀挀氀攀⤀ ⴀ 礀 欀礀甀漀搀攀猀 ⸀⸀⸀ 䴀愀爀攀搀甀搀 愀挀 ഊYwein ... yn anssynhwyrus oc eu PEBYLL heb gyweiraw eu bydin "Maredudd ਀愀渀搀 伀眀攀椀渀 愀爀漀猀攀 椀渀猀攀渀猀椀戀氀礀⠀㼀⤀ 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀攀渀琀猀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 爀攀愀搀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀椀爀 愀爀洀礀∀ഊ ਀挀⸀㄀㈀　　 ⠀琀栀攀 䌀栀椀爀欀 䌀漀搀攀砀 漀昀 琀栀攀 圀攀氀猀栀 氀愀眀猀⤀ ⴀ 攀戀爀攀渀礀渀 愀搀攀氀礀 漀瀀漀戀 ഊmyleyntref dyn amarch abuyall ygueneuthur LLUESTEU "the king is entitled ਀琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 攀愀挀栀 瘀椀氀氀攀椀渀ⴀ琀漀眀渀 愀 洀愀渀 眀椀琀栀 愀 栀漀爀猀攀 愀渀搀 愀渀 愀砀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 ഊtents/shelters" ਀ഊ13th c. (the History of Gruffudd ap Cynan) - LLUESTEU y dywededigyon ਀瘀爀攀渀栀椀渀攀搀 ∀琀攀渀琀猀⼀猀栀攀氀琀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀昀漀爀攀洀攀渀琀椀渀攀搀 欀椀渀最猀∀ഊ ਀㄀㐀琀栀 挀⸀ ⠀愀 瀀漀攀洀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 刀攀搀 䈀漀漀欀 漀昀 䠀攀爀最攀猀琀⤀ ⴀ 䰀䰀唀䔀匀吀 最愀搀眀愀氀氀愀眀渀 愀爀礀搀漀渀 ഊ"tent/shelter of Cadwallon " ਀ഊc. 1300 (various poems form the Hedregadredd ms.) - y BEBYLL y byll y ਀戀愀氀氀 挀漀挀栀 ⠀琀漀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀漀 㼀㼀Ⰰ 琀漀 愀 爀攀搀 琀攀渀琀⤀㬀 䔀椀氀 礀眀爀 氀氀愀氀氀 漀爀 瀀愀氀氀 ഊpell (second is the other from the far tent) ਀ഊ14th c. (the tale of Branwen) - Nyt ymywn ty ydoydynt namyn ymywn PALLEU ਀⠀琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 渀漀琀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 愀 栀漀甀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀攀渀琀猀⤀㬀 愀挀栀礀眀攀椀爀愀眀 礀 倀䔀䈀夀䰀䰀䄀唀 ഊar PALLEU awnaethant udunt ar ureint kyweirdeb yneuad (and they prepared ਀琀栀攀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀愀渀渀攀爀 漀昀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 栀愀氀氀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 琀栀攀 搀攀爀椀瘀攀搀 瘀攀爀戀猀 ∀氀氀甀攀猀琀甀∀ ⠀琀漀 氀漀搀最攀 琀攀洀瀀漀爀愀爀椀氀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ഊopen or in tents, to camp, esp. of troops) and "pebyllio" (to pitch a ਀琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 攀渀挀愀洀瀀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㄀㄀㘀　 ⠀愀 瀀漀攀洀⤀ ⴀ 倀攀椀 戀礀眀 氀氀愀爀礀 氀氀攀椀猀猀椀愀眀渀 ⼀ 一椀 䰀唀䔀匀吀䄀䤀 眀礀渀攀搀 礀洀 洀栀攀爀昀攀搀 ഊedeirniawn "While Llary Lleission lives, Gwynedd shall not camp in the ਀洀椀搀搀氀攀 漀昀 䔀搀攀椀爀渀椀漀渀∀ഊ ਀㄀㈀琀栀 挀⸀ ⠀瀀漀攀洀⤀ ⴀ 刀栀愀最 瀀礀爀琀栀 倀攀渀昀爀漀 礀渀 倀䔀䈀夀䰀䰀䤀䄀圀 ⠀琀攀渀琀椀渀最 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 最愀琀攀猀 ഊof Penfro) ਀ഊ13th c. (History of Gruffudd ap Cynan) - en e cantref hvnnv y ਀䰀䰀唀䔀匀吀䄀匀匀䄀一吀 眀礀琀栀渀漀猀 ∀椀渀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀渀琀爀攀昀 琀栀攀礀 挀愀洀瀀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀 眀攀攀欀∀㬀 甀爀琀栀 栀攀渀渀攀 ഊe LLUESTWS ac y PEBYLLYUS ... em Mur Castell "because of that, he camped ਀愀渀搀 琀攀渀琀攀搀 ⸀⸀⸀ 椀渀 䴀甀爀 䌀愀猀琀攀氀氀∀ഊ ਀㄀㌀琀栀 挀⸀ ⠀䰀氀礀昀爀 䌀漀氀愀渀 ⴀ 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀愀眀 琀爀愀挀琀猀⤀ ⴀ 䔀 戀爀攀渀渀礀渀 愀 搀礀氀礀 漀 瀀漀戀 ഊtayauctref ban el y lluyd gur a buyall y LLUESTU ydau. "The king is ਀攀渀琀椀琀氀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 攀愀挀栀 瘀椀氀氀攀椀渀ⴀ琀漀眀渀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 栀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 最漀 琀漀 戀愀琀琀氀攀Ⰰ 愀 ഊman with an axe to make camp for him" ਀ഊI have deliberately omitted examples that are either translated or ਀氀愀爀最攀氀礀 搀攀爀椀瘀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 爀攀氀椀最椀漀甀猀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 渀漀渀ⴀ圀攀氀猀栀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 漀渀 琀栀攀 ഊassumption that the tents could have been in the original. So what does ਀琀栀椀猀 琀攀氀氀 甀猀㼀 圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 圀攀氀猀栀 眀攀爀攀 昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀 ഊthem, largely in the context of war, but also on peaceable occasions when ਀洀漀爀攀 爀漀漀洀 眀愀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀⸀ 吀攀渀琀 瀀漀氀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 洀漀猀琀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 挀甀琀 漀渀 猀椀琀攀 ⠀琀栀甀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 ഊman with the axe) and the fabric in some cases bore enough resemblence to ਀愀 挀氀漀愀欀 ⠀攀椀琀栀攀爀 椀渀 昀漀爀洀 漀爀 昀甀渀挀琀椀漀渀⤀ 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 椀琀猀 渀愀洀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀攀洀⸀ 一漀琀 ഊa _great_ deal of help, but it's something. ਀ഊOK, OK, I'll expand it into an article. Are you happy now? ਀ഊTangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn ਀⠀眀栀漀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀琀 眀漀爀欀 漀瘀攀爀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 愀最漀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 最漀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 ഊinteresting!) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀唀一䠀䄀䴀─䔀唀䜀䰀䤀䈀 愀琀 洀爀攀搀⸀氀愀渀攀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀倀䄀吀匀夀 䐀唀一䠀䄀䴀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀猀ഊDate: 7 Jul 1995 17:16:41 -0400 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀ഊ ਀圀椀氀栀攀氀洀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㸀一漀眀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 眀椀琀栀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 琀攀渀琀猀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 猀瀀愀挀攀 琀栀愀琀ഊ>is not very usable due to lack of headroom near the walls. This is not ਀㸀愀 渀攀眀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 猀漀氀甀琀椀漀渀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀猀⸀  圀栀攀渀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊ>expected to spend some time in a place trading or attending a thing, they ਀㸀眀漀甀氀搀 戀甀椀氀搀 氀漀眀 眀愀氀氀猀 漀昀 猀琀漀渀攀 漀爀 琀甀爀瘀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 猀攀琀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 䄀ⴀ昀爀愀洀攀 琀攀渀琀ഊ>on top of the walls. (excavation or excavation+walls also used), it doesnt ਀㸀琀愀欀攀 洀甀挀栀 琀漀 最爀攀愀琀氀礀 椀渀挀爀攀愀猀攀 琀栀攀 甀猀愀戀氀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀椀猀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 栀漀甀猀椀渀最ഊ>I wanted to approximate. ਀ഊDo you actually have any sources for this? I am aware that drawings of ਀戀漀漀琀栀猀 ⠀䤀 眀椀猀栀 琀栀攀 渀攀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀愀欀攀 伀氀搀 一漀爀猀攀 挀栀愀爀愀挀琀攀爀猀⤀ 漀昀琀攀渀 猀栀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 氀漀漀欀猀ഊlike one of the tents from the ship burials on top of the walls, but it ਀漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀氀礀 椀猀 渀漀琀 猀甀挀栀 愀 琀攀渀琀 猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀猀栀漀氀搀 瀀氀愀琀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 最攀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀Ⰰഊand I believe the excavated walls are smaller than any of the existing ਀昀爀愀洀攀猀⸀  吀漀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 漀昀 洀礀 欀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀 渀漀 漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀猀 眀栀愀琀 眀攀渀琀 漀渀 琀漀瀀⸀  圀漀甀氀搀 戀攀ഊinterested if there was an archaeological or saga reference. ਀ഊJust as a point of information, one of the original tents was 17' 2 2/3" x ਀㄀㐀✀ 㜀 ㌀⼀㐀∀ 愀渀搀 ㄀㄀✀ 㐀 ㌀⼀㐀∀ 栀椀最栀 琀漀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀椀搀最攀 瀀漀氀攀⸀  ഊ ਀䴀攀椀猀琀愀爀椀 䜀攀爀攀欀爀 昀樀愀爀猀樀愀渀搀椀 刀漀最渀瘀愀氀搀猀猀漀渀Ⰰ 伀倀Ⰰ 伀䰀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ഊMun Stiklastadi ਀最攀爀攀欀爀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀ഊFrom dpeters at panix.comFri Apr 26 12:56:52 1996 ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㈀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀　　㨀㔀㔀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: "D. Peters" ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀 愀琀 洀挀⸀氀挀猀⸀洀椀琀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Etymology of "pavillion" (longer than I'd planned...) ਀ഊBryan J. Maloney wrote: ਀㸀ഊ>A lot of people are using the term "pavilion" in a way I'm not familiar ਀㸀眀椀琀栀⸀  吀栀攀 琀攀渀琀猀 琀栀攀礀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀 䤀✀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 洀愀爀欀攀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 爀攀昀攀爀爀攀搀 琀漀 愀猀ഊ>"marquees". I had thought that a "pavilion" was a round tent. ਀ഊI've had pavillions on the brain recently, because my spouse and I are ਀猀琀愀爀琀椀渀最 眀漀爀欀 漀渀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 㨀ⴀ　ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀 最漀攀猀⸀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 伀氀搀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 搀椀挀琀椀漀渀愀爀礀 猀愀礀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀 ∀瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀∀ 搀攀爀椀瘀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀ഊLatin "papilionem" (butterfly--!--originally, but "tent" in later ਀䰀愀琀椀渀⤀⸀  䤀渀 伀氀搀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀Ⰰ ∀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀∀ 挀漀甀氀搀 洀攀愀渀 ⠀䤀✀洀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀渀最 愀猀 䤀 最漀ഊalong here, bear with me): ਀ഊ(1) butterfly; ਀⠀㈀⤀ ∀挀漀渀椀挀愀氀∀ 琀攀渀琀 ⠀䤀✀洀 愀猀猀甀洀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀  琀栀椀猀 爀攀昀攀爀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ欀渀漀眀渀 琀攀渀琀ഊwith circular base); ਀⠀㌀⤀ 愀爀戀漀爀 漀爀 戀漀眀攀爀㬀ഊ(4) breast of partridge; ਀⠀㔀⤀ 愀 洀漀琀栀攀爀✀猀 戀爀攀愀猀琀 ⠀渀漀Ⰰ 爀攀愀氀氀礀⸀⸀⸀⤀㬀ഊ(6) some sort of small change (OED sez a French gold coin struck by ਀倀栀椀氀椀瀀 嘀䤀 漀昀 嘀愀氀漀椀猀 椀渀 ㄀㌀㈀㤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 漀戀瘀攀爀猀攀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 爀攀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 欀椀渀最ഊseated under a canopy or pavilion). ਀ഊThe OED says that a pavilion is a tent; "chiefly applied to one of a ਀氀愀爀最攀 漀爀 猀琀愀琀攀氀礀 欀椀渀搀Ⰰ 爀椀猀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 瀀攀愀欀 愀戀漀瘀攀⸀∀ഊ ਀笀一⸀䈀⸀ 渀攀椀琀栀攀爀 琀栀攀 伀氀搀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 搀椀挀琀椀漀渀愀爀礀 漀爀 琀栀攀 伀䔀䐀 最椀瘀攀猀 愀渀礀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 漀爀ഊ"marquis" being used to refer to a tent.} ਀ഊSo, does "pavilion" only refer to a round tent? The French word seems to ਀⠀漀爀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 琀栀攀 搀椀挀琀椀漀渀愀爀礀✀猀 攀搀椀琀漀爀猀 琀栀椀渀欀 猀漀⤀㬀 琀栀攀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 搀攀昀椀渀椀琀椀漀渀ഊcould include square, rectangular, or oval tents if they rise to a peak ਀愀琀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀⸀ഊ ਀倀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 琀栀攀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 ⠀愀渀搀 䴀爀⸀ 䴀愀氀漀渀攀礀⤀ 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀猀欀椀渀最 椀猀 渀漀琀Ⰰഊ"is the word 'pavilion' being used correctly," but "are the medieval ਀琀攀渀琀猀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 洀愀爀欀攀琀 昀愀椀琀栀昀甀氀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀攀渀琀猀㼀∀ഊThe vast majority of the tents that the spouse and I have seen ਀椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀攀搀 椀渀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 愀爀攀 挀椀爀挀甀氀愀爀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀 漀瘀愀氀⸀ഊOther than a foreshortened oval tent depicted in _King Rene's Book of Love_ ਀眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 洀愀礀 戀攀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀椀猀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀✀猀 ∀䈀攀氀氀 圀攀搀最攀∀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀ഊseen any period depictions of tents that closely resemble what the major ਀琀攀渀琀ⴀ洀愀欀攀爀猀 愀爀攀 猀攀氀氀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䄀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀㨀  琀漀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 漀昀 洀礀 欀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀Ⰰ 渀漀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀ⴀ猀琀礀氀攀ഊtents from our period have survived, but there are four ਀猀攀瘀攀渀琀攀攀渀琀栀ⴀ挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 洀椀氀椀琀愀爀礀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀⸀⸀⸀椀渀 䄀甀猀琀爀椀愀 㨀ⴀ⠀  圀攀 最漀琀 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀ഊbest-preserved one in an exhibit of sixteenth and seventeenth-century ਀䄀甀猀琀爀漀ⴀ䜀攀爀洀愀渀 愀爀洀漀爀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䴀甀猀攀攀 搀攀 氀愀 䌀椀瘀椀氀椀猀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 儀甀攀戀攀挀⸀ഊUnfortunately the guard was not very cooperative; some folks from ਀䴀礀爀欀昀愀攀氀椀渀渀 最漀琀 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 攀砀栀椀戀椀琀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䴀甀猀攀攀 搀攀 氀愀 䌀椀瘀椀氀椀猀愀琀椀漀渀ഊin Hull, and the guards let them poke about with flashlights and look at ਀猀攀愀洀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ഊ ਀䐀⸀倀攀琀攀爀猀ഊ(Didja know that "Pavillioner" was a medieval English surname?) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀 栀爀樀漀渀攀猀 愀琀 甀挀氀椀渀欀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀䘀爀椀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀㘀 ㄀㈀㨀㔀㤀㨀　㌀ ㄀㤀㤀㘀ഊDate: 14 Apr 1996 03:59:13 GMT ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 刀漀猀攀 䨀漀渀攀猀 㰀栀爀樀漀渀攀猀 愀琀 甀挀氀椀渀欀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊTo: sca at mc.lcs.mit.edu ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䔀琀礀洀漀氀漀最礀 漀昀 ∀瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀∀ ⠀氀漀渀最攀爀 琀栀愀渀 䤀✀搀 瀀氀愀渀渀攀搀⸀⸀⸀⤀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 伀䔀䐀 氀椀猀琀猀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀氀椀攀猀琀 欀渀漀眀渀 甀猀攀 漀昀 ∀洀愀爀焀甀攀攀∀ 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 猀攀渀猀攀 椀渀 ㄀㘀㤀　Ⰰഊand defines the word as "A large tent, as an officer's field-tent, or one ਀甀猀攀搀 愀琀 愀 瀀甀戀氀椀挀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 攀砀栀椀戀椀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 漀爀 琀栀攀 氀椀欀攀⸀∀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 洀愀欀攀猀 椀琀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀 甀渀氀椀欀攀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀ഊperiod to define a style of tent contrasting with that defined by ਀∀瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀∀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 眀漀爀搀猀 昀漀爀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀ഊstyles of structure is simply a modern convenience. ਀ഊTangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀猀甀渀猀栀椀渀攀最椀爀氀∀ 㰀猀甀渀猀栀椀渀攀最椀爀氀 愀琀 猀琀攀眀愀爀搀ⴀ渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䤀渀昀漀 漀渀 戀愀渀渀攀爀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀ഊDate: 20 Apr 98 02:21:50 GMT ਀ഊOn 13 Apr 1998, Gyelle wrote: ਀㸀一漀琀 愀氀氀 漀昀 洀礀 戀漀漀欀猀 愀爀攀 甀渀瀀愀挀欀攀搀 愀渀搀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 昀椀渀搀 愀渀礀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 椀渀ഊ>the ones I have out that show a French Bell pavillion. I'm trying to ਀㸀搀攀挀椀搀攀 眀栀愀琀 挀漀氀漀爀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 愀渀搀 洀礀 䰀漀爀搀 愀渀搀 䤀 愀爀攀 搀攀戀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀漀氀漀爀 瘀猀ഊ>"they were all white with colored decoration" issue. Can anyone out ਀㸀琀栀攀爀攀 栀攀氀瀀 甀猀 爀攀猀漀氀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀猀甀攀㼀  䤀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 漀爀搀攀爀攀搀 椀渀ഊ>time to make it for May Crown. ਀ഊThe book _The Renaissance, European painting 1400-1600 has a few pictures ਀漀昀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀 椀渀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀戀爀攀挀栀琀 䄀氀琀搀漀爀昀攀爀  䈀愀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 䤀猀猀甀猀  ㄀㔀㈀㤀ഊ pavilions are in the far background. Most seem off white, but some are ਀氀椀最栀琀 戀氀甀攀Ⰰ 礀攀氀氀漀眀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 挀漀氀漀爀 琀漀瀀猀 愀渀搀 眀愀氀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀椀攀爀漀 䐀攀氀氀愀 䘀爀愀渀挀攀猀挀愀  䐀爀攀愀洀 漀昀 䌀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀椀渀攀 ㄀㐀㔀㔀ഊ This tent is painted in with a light pinkish maroon on top, and a pinkish yellow (without being orange) for the walls. The yellow ( I would guess ਀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 栀椀最栀琀氀椀最栀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀栀愀搀漀眀猀⤀ 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 戀攀 愀渀 甀渀猀攀攀渀 氀椀最栀琀 猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 眀愀渀琀猀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 洀漀猀焀甀椀琀漀 渀攀琀琀椀渀最Ⰰ ഊSimone Martine The Apotheosis of Virgil 1340 ਀猀栀漀眀猀 愀 洀愀渀 瀀甀氀氀椀渀最 戀愀挀欀 愀 琀爀愀渀猀瀀愀爀攀渀琀 眀栀椀琀攀 挀甀爀琀愀椀渀 ⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 开䤀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀攀搀 䴀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀猀开 戀礀 䜀椀甀氀椀愀 䈀漀氀漀最渀愀Ⰰ  瀀愀最攀 ㄀㔀㔀 猀栀漀眀猀 愀ഊpage from Jean de Bueil, Le jouvencel, c. 1530. There are several blue ਀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 最漀氀搀 琀爀椀洀Ⰰ 愀 礀攀氀氀漀眀 瀀愀瘀椀氀氀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀眀漀 爀攀搀 漀渀攀猀⸀  䤀渀ഊthe far background are some light grey ones. ਀ഊAlmost all of the above pavilions are round with the pointed tops. At ਀氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 挀椀琀攀搀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 漀戀氀漀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䴀攀氀愀渀搀爀愀 漀昀 琀栀攀 圀漀漀搀猀ഊ ਀ഊSubject: Leather Air Mattresses in Period. Tent Books Info. ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䴀愀爀 㤀㤀 ㈀㄀㨀㌀㐀㨀㈀㄀ 䴀匀吀ഊFrom: rmhowe ਀吀漀㨀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀ⴀ氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 愀琀 攀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀匀椀渀挀攀 䤀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀Ⰰ 匀琀攀瘀攀渀 愀猀欀攀搀 洀攀 昀漀爀 洀漀爀攀ഊinformation as to what is in it. It's an interesting Idea so ਀䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 䤀✀搀 猀栀愀爀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 昀攀眀 昀漀氀欀猀⸀ഊ ਀䌀椀戀愀 刀攀瘀椀攀眀 ㄀㤀㘀㠀⼀㌀ 吀攀渀琀猀  ⠀漀渀氀礀 㐀㠀 瀀愀最攀猀⤀ഊPublished By CIBA Ltd, Basle, Switzerland. ਀䴀愀最愀稀椀渀攀 搀椀猀琀爀椀戀甀琀攀搀 琀漀 琀攀砀琀椀氀攀 猀挀栀漀漀氀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀椀攀猀⸀ 䤀䰀䰀 椀琀 昀漀氀欀猀Ⰰഊdon't try to buy one. ਀ഊ2. Tents and Camping - Article based on text by Dr. H.-C. Wulff, ਀    䬀愀猀猀攀氀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 刀⸀ 匀挀栀眀漀戀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀渀⸀ ⠀洀攀愀渀椀渀最 挀椀琀椀攀猀 椀渀 匀眀椀琀稀⸀ 䤀 最甀攀猀猀⸀⤀ഊ12. Nomad tents. ਀㈀㘀⸀ 吀攀渀琀 匀栀爀椀渀攀猀 愀渀搀 倀愀氀愀挀攀猀ഊ35. Modern Utility Tents - H. Schramm, Paris. ਀㐀　 唀渀椀琀攀搀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀㨀 一攀眀 䌀䤀䈀䄀 倀栀攀渀漀氀 刀攀猀椀渀 倀氀愀渀琀㬀 猀瀀愀挀攀㬀  䴀漀搀攀爀渀 吀爀攀渀搀猀ഊ42. Water-repellent and rotproof finishes for natural cellulose ਀    琀攀渀琀 昀愀戀爀椀挀猀⸀ഊ43. New CIBA White Scale for evaluating the whiteness of optically ਀    戀爀椀最栀琀攀渀攀搀 昀愀戀爀椀挀猀⸀ഊ47 Selected Terasil Dyes for texturized polyester. ਀㐀㠀⸀ 一攀眀 䌀䤀䈀䄀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 氀漀琀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀琀攀爀猀瀀攀爀猀攀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊhistory bits. ਀ഊ ਀ഊSays first tent fabrics were of linen impregnated with linseed oil. ਀䤀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 猀洀漀欀攀 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 椀昀 䤀 眀攀爀攀 礀漀甀⸀ 䠀椀最栀氀礀 漀砀椀搀椀猀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀伀琀栀攀爀 琀攀渀琀 琀礀瀀攀猀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 愀爀攀ഊNomadic. Bedouin. Yurts. Teepees and Wigwams. Lapp tents. Tibetan. ਀䤀猀爀愀攀氀椀琀攀 吀愀戀攀爀渀愀挀氀攀 吀攀渀琀猀⸀ 倀攀爀猀椀愀渀 搀攀瀀椀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 夀甀爀琀猀⸀ഊGenghis Khan's tent. Oriental luxury tents. Palatial Tents of Europe ਀⠀㌀ ㄀⼀㈀ 瀀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 琀眀漀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀⤀ 猀栀漀眀猀 刀椀挀栀愀爀搀 䤀䤀✀猀 琀攀渀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 刀漀礀愀氀ഊTent from Chroniques de Froissart in color, following page shows the: ਀ഊ26. Pennants bearing the owner's coat of arms fluttered from the tips ਀漀昀 漀猀琀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀甀猀 刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀 琀攀渀琀猀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 猀栀攀攀琀ⴀ洀攀琀愀氀 ∀昀氀愀最∀ 愀渀搀 椀爀漀渀ⴀഊframe top-piece once crowned the tent belonging to the Vintners Guild ਀椀渀 䈀愀猀氀攀⸀ 䤀琀 戀攀愀爀猀 琀栀攀 最甀椀氀搀✀猀 挀爀攀猀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 搀愀琀攀Ⰰ ㄀㘀㘀㄀⸀ 䈀礀 挀漀甀爀琀攀猀礀 漀昀ഊthe History Museum, Basle. ਀⠀匀栀漀眀猀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 昀氀愀琀 琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 洀攀琀愀氀 挀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 洀愀渀礀 爀椀瘀攀琀猀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 椀琀ഊangularly, ਀愀渀搀 愀 洀攀琀愀氀 戀愀渀搀 洀椀搀眀愀礀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 昀漀甀爀 爀椀渀最猀 攀砀琀攀渀搀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 椀琀 氀漀漀猀攀氀礀ഊon smaller rings attached to the band. At the bottom is a closely ਀猀瀀愀挀攀搀 戀甀渀挀栀 漀昀 爀椀瘀攀琀猀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀椀渀最 琀漀 栀漀氀搀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 挀氀漀琀栀ഊwhich can be seen in bits below the edge. Extending from the top ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀琀 挀漀渀攀 椀猀 愀 洀攀琀愀氀 猀瀀攀愀爀 猀栀愀昀琀Ⰰ 眀椀搀攀氀礀 琀愀瀀攀爀攀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀攀Ⰰഊwhich becomes a diamond pointed blade at the end. From this, just ਀甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 戀氀愀搀攀 愀爀攀 琀眀漀 洀攀琀愀氀 猀琀爀愀瀀猀Ⰰ 攀渀挀椀爀挀氀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀栀愀昀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊriveted horizontally to the metal "standard", the sides of the standard ਀愀瀀瀀攀愀爀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 洀攀琀愀氀 猀琀椀昀昀攀渀攀爀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 愀 昀漀氀搀 漀渀 攀愀挀栀 猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀ഊrivetted. No lack of rivets on this thing. The device is a handled ਀戀甀挀欀攀琀 眀椀琀栀 爀椀瘀攀琀攀搀 戀愀渀搀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 搀愀琀攀 ㄀㘀㘀㄀⸀ 䠀攀椀最栀琀 甀渀搀攀琀攀爀洀椀渀愀戀氀攀⸀ഊPicture is B&W, so I can't tell you the colors.) ਀ഊ /\ ਀          尀⼀ഊ ||_____________ ਀          簀簀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ簀ഊ ||| || ਀          簀簀簀           簀簀ഊ ||| || ਀          簀簀簀           簀簀ഊ |||___________|| ਀          簀簀簀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ || ਀          簀簀   䄀氀氀 洀攀琀愀氀⸀ 䴀愀渀礀 爀椀瘀攀琀猀⸀ഊ __/\__ ਀       ⼀      尀ഊ /________\ ਀    　簀开开开开　开开开开开簀　ഊ /____________\ ਀ഊAlso discussed are Henry VIII's tents at the Field of the Cloth of ਀䜀漀氀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 㐀　　 琀攀渀琀猀 漀昀 䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀 䤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀渀 椀琀 最漀攀猀 琀漀 吀攀渀琀 䈀愀渀渀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 匀琀愀渀搀愀爀搀猀 愀渀搀 挀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊBeneton de Perrin's "Dissertation sur les tentes ou Pavillons de Guerre" ਀愀 爀愀爀攀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀 瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀 椀渀 ㄀㜀㐀㌀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀猀 愀 戀椀琀 漀渀 吀攀渀琀猀 椀渀 䄀渀琀愀爀琀椀挀愀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 吀爀漀瀀椀挀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 㸀 䌀椀戀愀 ⠀圀甀氀昀昀⬀⤀㨀 ✀㘀㠀 ㌀ 吀䔀一吀匀⸀⸀䈀攀搀漀甀椀渀⸀⸀夀甀爀琀猀⸀⸀琀攀瀀攀攀猀⸀⸀吀椀戀攀琀愀渀㬀 ㄀㤀㘀㠀 㔀戀ഊ> > CIBA REVIEWS 1937-1974. ਀ഊPersonally, I have Hatton and find him to be very good, after there ਀挀漀洀攀猀 琀栀攀 匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䤀䤀 戀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 戀礀 匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䄀猀猀漀挀椀愀琀攀猀⸀ഊThen comes Tents - Architecture of the Nomads by Torvald Faegre. ਀ഊTent Books: ਀ഊHatton, E.M.: The Tent Book: A Celebration of Tents from Prehistory ਀琀漀 琀栀攀 䘀甀琀甀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 䈀甀礀攀爀猀 䜀甀椀搀攀 昀漀爀 䌀愀洀瀀攀爀猀 㬀 䈀漀猀琀漀渀㨀 䠀漀甀最栀琀漀渀ⰀഊMiflin, 1979, HB or PB. ਀ഊNordstrom, Ester Blenda.: Tent Folk of Far North. ; London. Jenkins. ਀㄀㤀㌀　⸀ ㈀㔀㔀 瀀瀀⸀圀椀琀栀 ㄀㔀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ 䤀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀猀 漀渀 吀栀攀 䰀愀瀀瀀猀ⰀഊLake Torne Trask, Reindeer Roundups, Herd Watcher's Summer Tents, ਀䴀椀最爀愀琀椀漀渀 愀洀漀渀最猀琀 洀愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀䴀愀猀琀攀爀 䴀愀最渀甀猀 䴀愀氀氀攀甀猀Ⰰ 伀䰀Ⰰ 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀Ⰰ 䜀爀攀愀琀 䐀愀爀欀 䠀漀爀搀攀 䈀爀漀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊMKA R.M. Howe, Raleigh, NC, USA ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㈀㨀㐀㘀㨀㐀　 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: Melanie Wilson ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䤀一吀䔀刀一䔀吀㨀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Dome Tents-Benders ਀ഊ>I also have a pair of pictures of some period "dome" tents. ਀ഊWhat period ? only 1500-1550 ? ਀ഊ>They didn't ਀㸀栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 昀氀攀砀椀戀氀攀 昀椀戀攀爀最氀愀猀猀 爀漀搀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀 猀愀瀀氀椀渀最猀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 眀攀氀氀ഊ>enough ਀ഊSaplings do work well, the tents are called benders, I have been on many a ਀挀愀洀瀀 眀栀攀爀攀 戀攀渀搀攀爀猀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 甀猀攀搀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀漀渀攀挀琀攀搀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊtravellers etc who live full time in benders. Which are canvas covered. I ਀氀椀欀攀 琀栀愀琀 猀琀礀氀攀 漀昀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 琀漀 栀攀愀爀搀 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀ഊseen it in historic contexts ਀ഊMel ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀㈀ 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㐀㨀㄀㠀㨀㌀㜀 ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: rmhowe ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Dome Tents-Benders ਀ഊOne of the pictures of Bender Tents I have found, I think there is ਀愀渀漀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 椀渀 䨀漀愀渀 䔀瘀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀眀攀爀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䄀最攀猀 瀀⸀ ㈀㄀㌀ 眀栀椀挀栀 猀栀漀眀猀ഊsix of them in a minature depicting the Bishop of Notre Dame blessing ਀琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀琀栀猀 愀渀搀 猀栀漀瀀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀爀挀栀愀渀琀猀 愀氀氀 愀爀漀甀渀搀⸀ഊThis is in color, all tents are white, the framework is depicted. ਀ഊMagnus ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㔀㨀㄀㘀㨀㈀㄀ ⴀ　㐀　　ഊFrom: rmhowe ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Period tents and pavilion making help ਀ഊSince everyone seems to be chatting up tents: ਀ഊHatton, E.M.: The Tent Book: A Celebration of Tents from Prehistory to ਀琀栀攀 䘀甀琀甀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 䈀甀礀攀爀猀 䜀甀椀搀攀 昀漀爀 䌀愀洀瀀攀爀猀 㬀 䈀漀猀琀漀渀㨀 䠀漀甀最栀琀漀渀Ⰰ 䴀椀昀氀椀渀Ⰰഊ1979 is a very good place to start. It has to be one of THE best books. ਀ഊFaegre, Torvald: Tents: Architecture of the Nomads is another. ਀䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 昀漀爀 䈀攀搀漀甀椀渀 吀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 夀甀爀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䤀 愀渀搀 匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䤀䤀 戀礀 匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䄀猀猀漀挀椀愀琀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 戀漀漀欀猀ഊto look in. Shelter I may still be in print. The last time I checked ਀眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 匀栀攀氀琀攀爀 䤀䤀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀漀氀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀渀✀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊShelter I is being advertised: ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀樀愀搀攀洀漀甀渀琀愀椀渀⸀挀漀洀⼀戀漀漀欀猀嘀椀搀攀漀猀⼀愀氀琀匀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊIf anyone has an extra copy of Shelter II let me know. ਀ഊThe rest are probably out of print. I suggest you ILL. ਀ഊMagnus ਀ഊhttp://www.advancecanvas.com/yurts/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀䄀搀瘀愀渀挀攀䌀愀渀瘀愀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀ഊhttp://www.vdn.com/hilden/index.html#tents1 ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瀀戀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀氀椀渀搀愀栀氀⼀挀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀⼀挀漀渀樀攀挀琀甀爀愀氀氀礀开瀀攀爀椀漀搀开瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://midtown.net/dragonwing/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀愀渀漀瀀椀攀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀ഊhttp://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/2032/yurt.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀洀攀洀戀攀爀猀⸀愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀⼀琀攀渀琀洀猀琀爀猀⼀椀渀搀攀砀⸀栀琀洀ഊhttp://www.mtsu.edu/~m_c_0035/sca/Metent.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀挀漀⸀渀攀琀⼀縀猀琀爀㠀樀欀琀⼀礀甀爀琀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.dulcimer.com/pennsic/grifden.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀搀甀氀挀椀洀攀爀⸀挀漀洀⼀瀀攀渀渀猀椀挀⼀最爀椀昀搀攀渀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://members.home.net/rvnspeak/index.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀爀愀昀琀攀爀⸀挀漀洀⼀猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀⼀樀攀渀欀椀渀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.rdrop.com/~glacier/yurt.htm ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀搀攀氀瀀栀椀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀猀戀氀漀挀栀⼀猀挀愀⼀琀攀渀琀猀⼀欀甀椀樀琀⸀愀爀琀椀挀氀攀⼀ഊhttp://www.makingtime.com/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀攀氀攀瀀漀爀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀琀最甀瀀琀椀氀氀⼀琀攀渀琀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀洀攀洀戀攀爀猀⸀栀漀洀攀⸀渀攀琀⼀洀椀欀栀愀椀氀⼀椀渀搀攀砀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.1x.com/newton/index.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀挀漀渀琀爀椀戀⸀愀渀搀爀攀眀⸀挀洀甀⸀攀搀甀⼀縀渀栀　最⼀渀椀氀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://sunrise.eng.monash.EDU.AU/charles/Nordmannia/news/tent.htm ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀礀甀爀琀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀ഊhttp://www.renstore.com/index.shtml ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀最愀氀愀砀礀洀愀氀氀⸀挀漀洀⼀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀⼀琀攀渀琀猀⼀ഊhttp://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/personal/cs1jwh/c1265/mypav.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀最攀漀挀椀琀椀攀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀䄀琀栀攀渀猀⼀䘀漀爀甀洀⼀㈀㈀㤀㐀⼀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀攀戀㈀⸀愀椀爀洀愀椀氀⸀渀攀琀⼀愀　　㄀　㘀㘀㌀⼀ഊhttp://web.raex.com/~yurts/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瀀戀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀氀椀渀搀愀栀氀⼀爀椀愀氀琀漀⼀椀搀砀搀眀攀氀氀椀渀最猀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.iinet.net.au/~expo/sven/tentsfr1.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀最攀漀挀椀琀椀攀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀䄀琀栀攀渀猀⼀䄀琀爀椀甀洀⼀㌀㘀㤀㘀⼀吀攀渀琀猀⼀㄀㔀　　愀搀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.tentsmiths.com/ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀攀渀琀琀漀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀琀椀戀攀琀攀渀琀⸀栀琀洀ഊhttp://www.teleport.com/~tguptill/tent5viking.pdf ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀攀渀琀琀漀洀渀挀⼀洀⼀琀攀渀琀⸀栀琀洀ഊhttp://www.gordian.com/users/nathan/Trek/mongolia.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀栀攀昀愀爀洀⸀漀爀最⼀戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀攀猀⼀礀甀爀琀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀ഊSubject: Tents of the 16th century ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀㜀 䄀甀最 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 　㤀㨀　㜀㨀㄀㠀 ⬀㄀　　　Ⰰ 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: "Stephen Wyley" ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一䴀䤀吀ഊTo: living-history at gospel.iinet.net.au ਀ഊI have now completed the uploading of the web pages dealing with the ਀琀攀渀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ㄀㘀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀最攀漀挀椀琀椀攀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀䄀琀栀攀渀猀⼀䄀琀爀椀甀洀⼀㌀㘀㤀㘀⼀吀攀渀琀猀⼀㄀㘀琀栀挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⼀㄀㘀琀栀挀椀渀搀攀砀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䰀攀琀 洀攀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 琀栀攀 氀椀渀欀猀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀漀爀欀⸀ 䄀渀搀 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 琀栀愀渀欀ഊthose whom contributed to this section, especially; Trish Lambert, Bill ਀䴀挀䌀漀渀渀攀氀氀Ⰰ 圀愀礀渀攀 愀渀搀 䜀氀攀渀搀愀 刀漀戀椀渀猀漀渀Ⰰ 䨀漀栀渀 匀漀甀琀栀愀氀氀 愀渀搀 䨀漀栀渀 䰀愀ഊTorre. ਀ഊOf course this work is incomplete as you will note by the list in "Part ਀㄀㜀 唀渀搀攀爀 䤀渀瘀攀猀琀椀最愀琀椀漀渀∀⸀ 䄀渀礀 挀漀渀琀爀椀戀甀琀椀漀渀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 最爀愀琀攀昀甀氀氀礀ഊaccepted and acknowledged. ਀ഊThanks to the contribution and nagging of Lewis Scheuch-Evans I will ਀攀渀搀攀愀瘀漀甀爀 琀漀 瀀甀琀 愀渀 ㄀㠀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 椀渀搀攀砀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀漀漀 氀漀渀最⸀ 䄀最愀椀渀 䤀 眀椀氀氀ഊhave to rely on those whom specialize in the period to help. ਀ഊStephen Francis Wyley ਀吀攀挀栀渀椀挀愀氀 伀昀昀椀挀攀爀ഊ(Plant Tissue Culture and Soil Science) ਀䠀漀爀琀椀挀甀氀琀甀爀攀 䐀攀瀀愀爀琀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 一䴀䤀吀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:08:33 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀椀搀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Book on Mongol Foods, Islamic Medicine (long) ਀ഊAt 2:51 AM -0500 3/28/00, CBlackwill at aol.com wrote: ਀㸀匀攀爀椀漀甀猀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀⸀⸀ 䠀漀眀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 渀愀洀攀⼀瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 昀漀爀 愀 戀攀搀漀甀椀渀 渀漀洀愀搀 琀攀渀琀㼀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ∀吀攀渀琀猀㨀 䄀爀挀栀椀琀攀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 一漀洀愀搀猀⸀∀ 吀栀攀 ഊauthor has a Scandinavian sounding name. It shows (modern) bedouin ਀琀攀渀琀猀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 搀攀琀愀椀氀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀ഊProfessor of Law ਀匀愀渀琀愀 䌀氀愀爀愀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊ ਀ഊSubject: [MedievalEncampments] Medieval tent in Basel ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䨀甀渀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㜀㨀㈀　㨀㈀㘀 ⬀　㈀　　ഊFrom: "Barclay, Peter C. MAJ" ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 愀琀 攀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀✀∀㰀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 愀琀 攀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊCC: "'Dafydd'" ਀ഊFor those who are not interested in the stake layout for a pavilino and ਀琀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀 搀椀搀 渀漀琀 最漀 琀漀 洀礀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀Ⰰ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 琀漀 最漀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀䰀愀猀琀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀Ⰰ 䤀 眀攀渀琀 琀漀 䈀愀猀攀氀Ⰰ 匀眀椀琀稀攀爀氀愀渀搀 琀漀 挀栀愀猀攀 搀漀眀渀 愀 爀甀洀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀ഊA medieval tent in a museum there. I FOUND IT!!!! ਀ ഊI got the opportunity to caress and fondle the pavilion. I tried hard to ਀欀攀攀瀀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 搀爀漀漀氀 漀渀 洀礀 猀氀攀攀瘀攀⸀  䤀 琀漀漀欀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀  琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀ഊstaff became curious about why I was so interested in the tent. The staff ਀挀愀氀氀攀搀 琀栀攀 挀甀爀愀琀漀爀 琀漀 琀愀氀欀 琀漀 洀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 渀漀 漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 栀愀搀ഊeven hardly given it much of a second glance. According to the curator, the ਀爀漀瀀攀 ∀栀漀漀欀猀∀ 愀爀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀漀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 挀攀渀琀攀爀 瀀漀氀攀 愀渀搀 椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀 猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀ഊare not. ਀ഊSeveral things about this pavilion: ਀ഊ1. It is NOT a hub and spoke design. It is supported by a single pole ਀愀渀搀 椀渀琀攀渀搀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 栀攀氀搀 漀甀琀 戀礀 爀漀瀀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 爀漀瀀攀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 挀爀漀眀✀猀 昀漀漀琀ഊfashion, with each rope going to three different grommets on the tent. In ਀琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 椀琀 栀愀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀 猀琀爀甀挀琀甀爀攀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀攀礀 甀猀攀 昀漀爀 搀椀猀瀀氀愀礀猀 椀渀猀椀搀攀ഊthe pavilion and convenience of not having to have the ropes spread ਀漀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀⸀ ഊ ਀㈀⸀ऀ吀栀攀 眀愀氀氀猀 愀爀攀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 ⠀猀琀椀琀挀栀攀搀⤀ 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀 ഊ ਀㌀⸀ऀ吀栀攀 挀漀氀漀爀攀搀 氀椀渀攀猀 愀爀攀 猀琀椀琀挀栀攀搀 漀渀⸀  伀渀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀昀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 戀氀甀攀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 椀猀ഊstitched over every seam. On the wall pieces, because the seams are farther ਀愀瀀愀爀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 攀砀琀爀愀 挀漀氀漀爀 氀椀渀攀 愀琀琀愀挀栀攀搀 洀椀搀眀愀礀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 猀攀愀洀猀 ഊ ਀㐀⸀ऀ伀渀 攀愀挀栀 猀攀愀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀漀氀漀爀攀搀 氀椀渀攀 眀愀猀 猀琀椀琀挀栀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 猀攀愀洀⸀  吀栀椀猀 椀猀ഊclear on the inside of the tent where you can clearly see blue stitching on ਀漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀愀洀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 ⠀洀攀愀渀椀渀最 氀攀昀琀 猀椀搀攀 愀渀搀ഊright side, NOT inside and out). ਀ഊ5. The fancy finial is removable from the "cap". They had several ਀漀琀栀攀爀 昀椀渀椀愀氀猀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀⸀ ഊ ਀㘀⸀ऀ吀栀攀 爀漀漀昀 挀愀瀀 眀愀猀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 猀琀甀搀搀攀搀 愀渀搀 栀愀搀 愀 洀攀琀愀氀 戀愀渀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊattachment points for 3 "high-wind ropes". ਀ഊ7. The tent was intended to be staked down (in this case at each color ਀氀椀渀攀⤀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀瀀愀椀爀攀搀 愀琀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀愀搀 愀 最漀漀搀 琀椀洀攀⸀  吀栀椀猀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 䤀 愀洀 漀昀昀 琀漀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀 琀漀 挀栀愀猀攀 搀漀眀渀 愀ഊtent that I have seen in a photo from The Royal Armouries Museum at Leeds. ਀夀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 眀愀椀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 㐀琀栀 漀昀 䨀甀氀礀 昀漀爀 椀渀昀漀 愀渀搀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀ഊAbout that tent, however. (Sorry, I'm travelling) ਀ ഊAnyway, for those new to the list, go to http:// ਀眀眀眀⸀最爀攀礀搀爀愀最漀渀⸀漀爀最⼀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀 㰀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀最爀攀礀搀爀愀最漀渀⸀漀爀最⼀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀猀㸀  ഊThe link is there. ਀ ഊ Terafan ਀ഊMaster Rhys Terafan Greydragon barclayp at eucom.mil ਀匀攀渀攀猀挀栀愀氀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀椀瀀椀攀渀琀 匀栀椀爀攀 漀昀 䈀氀愀甀眀愀猀猀攀爀 ഊ ਀ഊSubject: RE: [MedievalEncampments] More info on the Medieval tent in Base l ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䨀甀渀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㘀㨀㔀㤀㨀　㤀 ⬀　㈀　　ഊFrom: "Barclay, Peter C. MAJ" ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 愀琀 攀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀✀∀ 㰀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 愀琀 攀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 䴀愀猀琀攀爀 吀攀爀愀昀愀渀Ⰰഊ ਀ऀ䤀 眀愀猀 一伀吀 猀洀愀爀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 漀戀琀愀椀渀 搀椀洀攀渀猀椀漀渀猀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀昀ഊI remember correctly, it has about a 6 or 7 ft radius. ਀ഊI know how many other folks want very specific details. I do too. I ਀琀栀漀甀最栀琀 䤀 栀愀搀 搀漀渀攀 愀 最漀漀搀 樀漀戀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 最甀攀猀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 最漀 戀愀挀欀⸀⸀⸀ ഊ(sigh) the tragedies of living in Europe... ;-) ਀ഊThe museum has VERY LITTLE DOCUMENTATION for the tent. According to the ਀洀甀猀攀甀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 眀愀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 栀愀氀昀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀瘀攀渀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀Ⰰഊ(before 1655 for sure because records from 1655 indicate it being in ਀攀砀椀猀琀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 礀攀愀爀猀⤀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀砀愀挀琀 礀攀愀爀 漀昀ഊcreation. The tent belonged to one of the guilds of Basel, which is called ਀吀栀攀 䜀漀氀搀攀渀 匀琀愀爀⸀ 䤀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 最甀椀氀搀猀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀攀洀 昀漀爀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀ഊpurposes: events, in the war (to take care of wounded soldiers), etc.. The ਀洀甀猀攀甀洀 最漀琀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 椀渀 ㄀㠀㠀㤀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 䜀甀椀氀搀⸀   ⠀吀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 猀琀愀昀昀✀猀ഊpoor command of English and my even worse ability in German made it ਀搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 琀漀 最攀琀 洀漀爀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 愀渀搀 琀攀挀栀渀椀挀愀氀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀⤀⸀  ഊ ਀䤀 愀洀 渀漀琀 愀 最漀漀搀 樀甀搀最攀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀 眀攀椀最栀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀ഊ(canvas ??) was looser than the canvas I have used for my pavilino and most ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 䤀 猀攀攀⸀   匀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 猀攀攀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀ഊof the crow's foot knot, and the shots of the inside of the seams. ਀ഊThe walls appeared to be attached by turning the top edge of the wall out ਀愀渀搀 搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 猀琀椀琀挀栀椀渀最 椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ∀昀氀愀瀀∀⸀  䄀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀ഊthe photos show the edge of the wall fabric sticking down out of the seam ਀⠀戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀氀氀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀瀀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 渀椀挀攀 琀漀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 搀漀 愀 ∀眀愀琀攀爀 琀攀猀琀∀ 漀昀 椀琀Ⰰ 琀漀 猀攀攀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀ഊthose natural fibers swell when they get wet, and how waterproof it makes ਀琀栀攀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 眀椀氀氀 愀最爀攀攀⸀ ⠀䐀愀爀渀 琀栀攀ഊbad luck!) ਀ഊ Terafan ਀ഊMaster Rhys Terafan Greydragon barclayp at eucom.mil ਀䈀爀攀眀攀爀 愀渀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀⸀⸀⸀ഊSeneschal, Incipient Shire of Blauwasser ਀ഊ>From: Nessa Giddings [mailto:nessaofthelox at yahoo.com] ਀ⴀⴀⴀ ∀䈀愀爀挀氀愀礀Ⰰ 倀攀琀攀爀 䌀⸀ 䴀䄀䨀∀ 㰀戀愀爀挀氀愀礀瀀 愀琀 攀甀挀漀洀⸀洀椀氀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀  ഊ> Last weekend, I went to Basel, Switzerland to chase ਀㸀 搀漀眀渀 愀 爀甀洀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 琀攀渀琀 椀渀 愀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀  䤀 䘀伀唀一䐀 䤀吀℀℀℀℀  ഊ ਀匀漀爀爀礀 昀漀爀 愀猀欀椀渀最 戀甀琀㨀 圀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 椀琀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀㼀 圀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀ഊof documentation is there for it? When was it in use? ਀圀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀洀攀渀琀猀㼀 䤀琀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 戀攀愀甀琀椀昀甀氀Ⰰ 琀栀愀渀欀ഊyou for doing this and sharing it with all of us! ਀吀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 戀攀琀 眀攀 愀氀氀 眀椀猀栀 眀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀猀ഊwell. It is thrilling to see a real tent from in ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 愀洀愀稀椀渀最℀ 吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀℀ 吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀℀ 吀栀愀渀欀ഊyou! Damn, does this mean I have to make a new tent? ;) ਀ഊNessa ਀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀崀 嬀䘀眀搀㨀 吀攀渀琀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 椀渀昀漀ⴀⴀ猀瀀漀欀攀搀 眀栀攀攀氀 瀀漀氀攀 搀攀猀椀最渀崀ഊDate: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:08:29 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 吀愀渀礀愀 䜀甀瀀琀椀氀氀 㰀琀最甀瀀琀椀氀氀 愀琀 琀攀氀攀瀀漀爀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: *Medieval Encampments ਀ഊPlease excuse me for duplicating this post, if you are also a rec.org.sca ਀渀攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀 爀攀愀搀攀爀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 愀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀 漀渀氀椀渀攀 爀攀最愀爀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀ഊdesign, and I am taking the liberty of forwarding my own responses. I had ਀搀攀戀愀琀攀搀 昀漀爀攀眀愀爀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 瀀漀猀琀猀Ⰰ 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀渀ഊinterests of brevity, I would ask that you check the newsgroup for additional ਀椀渀昀漀 愀渀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 戀愀氀愀渀挀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀瘀椀攀眀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀䴀椀爀愀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> The spoked wheel design that Master Dafydd has crafted, often called a ਀㸀 ✀瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀✀ 搀甀攀 琀漀 愀渀 攀愀爀氀礀 琀礀瀀漀Ⰰ 椀猀 椀渀搀攀攀搀 愀渀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀  戀攀愀甀琀椀昀甀氀 琀攀渀琀⸀ഊ> I had the good fortune to meet Master Dafydd and see his tent this past ਀㸀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 眀愀猀 椀洀瀀爀攀猀猀攀搀 漀渀 戀漀琀栀 椀琀猀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀愀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 椀昀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 搀漀椀渀最 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 琀漀眀愀爀搀 愀 琀攀渀琀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀ഊ> persona, you may want to take a couple items into account, for whatever they ਀㸀 愀爀攀 眀漀爀琀栀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀  最漀漀搀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 漀昀ഊ> information in the article listed, and two details in it which have new ਀㸀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 愀搀搀攀搀 琀漀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 ⴀⴀ吀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀 椀渀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀 眀愀猀 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀猀 漀眀渀攀爀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀攀搀 戀礀ഊ> Edward Boreham regarding this popular design. Edward wrote, on the Medieval ਀㸀 䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀 氀椀猀琀㨀 ∀吀漀 愀氀氀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 䤀 猀瀀漀欀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀眀渀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ> "Past Tents" company this past weekend, and he said that he had ਀㸀 渀漀琀 猀攀攀渀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀⸀ ⠀䌀漀渀琀爀愀爀礀 琀漀 琀栀攀 爀甀洀漀甀爀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 氀椀猀琀⤀ 䠀攀 搀椀搀ഊ> however tell me that his reason for deciding on a spoked design was based upon logical ਀㸀 挀漀渀樀攀挀琀甀爀攀 昀爀漀洀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀⸀ 䠀攀 栀愀搀 猀攀攀渀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 漀渀攀ഊ> man was moving the pole and canvas, and right behind him for no readily ਀㸀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀ഊ> reason was a man pushing a cart wheel. Unfortunately like most of us he could ਀㸀 渀漀琀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀攀 氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 栀椀猀 挀漀渀樀攀挀琀甀爀攀 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀渀 愀爀洀礀ഊ> would ਀㸀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀渀礀 眀愀最漀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀 洀愀渀礀 眀栀攀攀氀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀甀氀搀 挀甀琀 琀爀攀攀猀 昀漀爀 瀀漀氀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊ> thus would only have to carry the canvas. Those of you who have ever tried to ਀㸀 挀愀爀爀礀ഊ> your pavillions any distance will surely agree that pavillions will only be ਀㸀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 挀漀渀樀甀渀挀琀椀漀渀 眀椀琀栀 眀愀最漀渀猀℀ 䤀昀 愀渀礀 漀昀 礀漀甀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 爀攀昀攀爀爀攀搀 琀漀ഊ> ,please let the list ਀㸀 欀渀漀眀 愀猀 䤀 昀漀爀 漀渀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 椀琀 愀渀搀 爀攀愀挀栀 洀礀 漀眀渀 挀漀渀挀氀甀猀椀漀渀猀⸀∀ഊ> ਀㸀 ⴀⴀ吀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀甀爀瀀漀爀琀攀搀 攀砀椀猀琀攀渀挀攀 漀昀 愀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀ഊ> spoked-wheel tent in the museum in Bern, Switzerland, and so far our ਀㸀 猀攀愀爀挀栀椀渀最 栀愀猀 渀漀琀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 甀瀀 琀栀椀猀 攀砀琀愀渀琀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀✀瘀攀 猀攀愀爀挀栀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊ> info by contacting museums directly. That entrepid explorer, Master Terafan, ਀㸀 栀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 栀愀猀 眀攀戀戀攀搀 栀椀猀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀 愀渀搀 愀渀愀氀礀猀椀猀 漀昀 愀渀 攀砀琀愀渀琀 琀攀渀琀 椀渀 䈀愀猀攀氀Ⰰഊ> Switzerland at http://www.greydragon.org/pavilions/basel.html . The ਀㸀 琀攀渀琀漀瀀栀椀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 眀攀渀琀 椀渀琀漀 挀漀渀瘀甀氀猀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 攀挀猀琀愀猀礀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 渀攀眀ഊ> info (weird, aren't we?), because it answers a lot of questions we've had. ਀㸀ഊ> I do not provide this information to necessarily dissuade you from making a ਀㸀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀渀漀 琀攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀猀 昀漀爀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 礀漀甀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 洀攀攀琀 礀漀甀爀 渀攀攀搀猀 愀渀搀 眀愀渀琀猀⸀  䤀ഊ> merely want to be sure that the information available to you on the 'Net is ਀㸀 愀猀 愀挀挀甀爀愀琀攀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀爀 琀攀渀琀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀 洀椀最栀琀 洀攀攀琀 礀漀甀爀 漀眀渀ഊ> personal standards, whatever they may be. ਀㸀ഊ> Mira ਀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀䔀渀挀愀洀瀀洀攀渀琀猀崀 嬀䘀眀搀㨀 吀攀渀琀 挀愀渀瘀愀猀 椀渀昀漀ⴀⴀ猀瀀漀欀攀搀 眀栀攀攀氀 瀀漀氀攀 搀攀猀椀最渀崀ഊDate: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:10:16 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 吀愀渀礀愀 䜀甀瀀琀椀氀氀 㰀琀最甀瀀琀椀氀氀 愀琀 琀攀氀攀瀀漀爀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: *Medieval Encampments ਀ഊClare de Crecy wrote: ਀吀栀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 椀猀 开䠀攀渀爀礀 嘀䤀䤀✀猀 䄀爀洀礀开 戀礀 倀愀甀氀 䌀漀爀渀椀猀栀⸀ഊOsprey Men at Arms Series 191, 1987, ISBN 0 85045 798 X ਀ഊPage 17-19 show a " series of engravings made from contemporary ਀嬀洀椀搀ⴀ㄀㘀琀栀 挀崀 洀甀爀愀氀猀 愀琀 䌀漀眀搀爀愀礀 䠀漀甀猀攀 椀渀 匀甀猀猀攀砀 ⠀猀椀渀挀攀 搀攀猀琀爀漀礀攀搀⤀∀⸀ 伀渀ഊpage 18 is an engraving of Henry VIII's camp partly destroyed by a ਀猀琀漀爀洀 琀栀愀琀 漀挀挀甀爀攀搀 䨀甀氀礀 ㈀㔀Ⰰ ㄀㔀㐀㐀⸀ 䤀渀 椀琀 礀漀甀 猀攀攀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 瀀愀爀琀氀礀ഊcollapsed tents, both round and rectangular, with flaccid walls and ਀琀愀甀渀琀 爀漀漀昀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 攀渀最爀愀瘀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀 渀漀眀 漀眀渀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 一愀琀椀漀渀愀氀 䄀爀洀礀 䴀甀猀攀甀洀ഊin London. ਀ഊThis is the picture that Daffyd cites in his article. He saw it at my ਀栀漀甀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀 䤀 栀愀搀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀琀甀渀攀 琀漀 洀攀攀琀 䨀愀渀攀琀 䄀爀渀漀氀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀猀欀攀搀ഊher about the source of some illustrations in _ Patterns of Fashion ਀㌀开⸀ 䤀 眀愀猀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀 眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 琀栀攀 䴀椀氀愀渀攀猀攀 琀愀椀氀漀爀✀猀 愀氀戀甀洀Ⰰ 挀⸀㄀㔀㔀㔀ⴀ㠀　Ⰰ 栀愀搀ഊever been published. She said it had, and contained patterns for ਀戀愀渀渀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 琀攀渀琀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 洀攀渀✀猀 愀渀搀 眀漀洀攀渀✀猀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最⸀  䤀 渀攀瘀攀爀 最漀琀ഊaround to writing her for the publication information. I have made a ਀挀漀愀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀搀 椀渀 倀漀䘀㌀ 愀渀搀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 琀漀 戀攀ഊwell proportioned. If anyone is interested in pursuing the tailor's ਀愀氀戀甀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 椀猀 䈀椀戀氀椀漀琀攀挀愀 儀甀攀爀椀渀椀ⴀ匀琀愀洀瀀愀氀椀愀Ⰰ 嘀攀渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䨀䄀ഊsaid the fascimile was published in Italy. If anyone finds out ਀愀渀礀琀栀渀最 䤀✀搀 氀漀瘀攀 琀漀 栀攀愀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀刀攀最愀爀搀猀Ⰰ  吀爀愀挀礀 䨀甀猀琀甀猀⼀ 䌀氀愀爀攀 搀攀 䌀爀攀挀礀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Nils K Hammer ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Tents--Good news- ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ  ㌀ 一漀瘀 ㈀　　　 ㈀　㨀㄀㔀㨀㌀㌀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊOrganization: Csd Education - Phd, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA ਀ഊThere was another John the Artificer apprentice trip to Europe. ਀圀栀椀氀攀 眀攀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀 猀愀眀 愀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀礀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀攀渀琀⸀ഊI haven't my notes with me at the moment, but it was a roughly ਀㄀　✀ 砀 ㄀㔀✀ 漀瘀愀氀⸀ 䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 䤀 眀愀猀 挀氀攀瘀攀爀 甀猀椀渀最 琀漀最最氀攀 搀漀漀爀 挀氀漀猀椀渀最猀ഊon my tent, but thiers are possibly even more clever than mine, since ਀琀栀攀 琀漀最最氀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 栀漀氀攀猀 搀爀椀氀氀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀爀攀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 昀漀氀搀攀搀 椀渀琀漀ഊthe loop on one side and buttoned into the loop on the other. ਀ഊnils ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䘀攀戀 ㈀　　㘀 　　㨀㄀㄀㨀　㌀ ⴀ　㘀　　ഊFrom: Charlene Charette ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Siege of Florence, 1558 ਀ഊ> Does anyone have a scanned copy of the painting "Siege of Florence", ਀㸀 ⠀㄀㔀㔀㠀㼀⤀  戀礀 䜀椀漀爀最椀漀 嘀愀猀愀爀椀㼀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 瀀愀爀琀椀愀氀 椀洀愀最攀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 椀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 愀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 漀渀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䤀✀洀 瘀攀爀礀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 琀攀渀琀 猀琀礀氀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀猀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀㼀ഊ ਀㰀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀戀戀攀瘀椀氀氀攀⸀挀漀洀⼀倀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀⼀䤀渀琀攀爀椀漀爀䤀洀愀最攀猀⼀　㠀㤀㘀㘀　㄀㄀㄀　䤀渀琀攀爀椀漀爀猀⸀栀琀洀㸀ഊ ਀㰀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀愀戀戀攀瘀椀氀氀攀⸀挀漀洀⼀椀洀愀最攀猀ⴀ挀愀琀愀氀漀最⼀昀甀氀氀ⴀ猀椀稀攀⼀　㠀㤀㘀㘀　㄀㄀㄀　⸀椀渀琀攀爀椀漀爀　㄀⸀樀瀀最㸀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ倀攀爀爀漀渀渀攀氀氀攀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Catalina Ana de Salamanca ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䨀甀氀礀 ㄀㔀Ⰰ ㈀　　㠀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀㔀㨀㈀㌀ 倀䴀 䌀䐀吀ഊTo: Barony of Bryn Gwlad , moggiekat at gmail.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀䈀爀礀渀ⴀ最眀氀愀搀崀 䈀攀搀漀甀椀渀 琀攀渀琀 氀椀渀欀猀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀洀攀洀戀攀爀猀⸀琀爀椀瀀漀搀⸀挀漀洀⼀琀爀椀戀攀开戀愀搀椀爀⼀椀搀㈀㐀⸀栀琀洀ഊhttp://www.palestinianheritagecenter.com/Photo_Gallery/Inside%20the%20Center/slides/The%20Bedouin%20Tent.html ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀爀椀琀椀猀栀洀甀猀攀甀洀⸀漀爀最⼀攀砀瀀氀漀爀攀⼀栀椀最栀氀椀最栀琀猀⼀栀椀最栀氀椀最栀琀开漀戀樀攀挀琀猀⼀愀漀愀⼀爀⼀爀攀攀搀开眀愀氀氀开稀椀爀戀开昀爀漀洀开愀开戀攀搀漀甀椀⸀愀猀瀀砀ഊhttp://www.worldofstock.com/closeups/TME1237.php ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀戀氀漀最⸀氀椀戀⸀甀洀渀⸀攀搀甀⼀攀氀洀漀椀　　㄀⼀愀爀挀栀椀琀攀挀琀甀爀攀⼀㈀　　㠀⼀　㌀⼀氀椀瘀椀渀最开椀渀开愀开戀攀搀漀甀椀渀开琀攀渀琀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊhttp://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/196603/the.black.tent.htm ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀礀攀氀瀀⸀挀漀洀⼀戀椀稀开瀀栀漀琀漀猀⼀㈀䄀唀㤀䜀䈀欀琀㤀眀㔀䈀㌀娀渀昀开䴀瘀䴀㤀最㼀猀攀氀攀挀琀㴀㔀戀㐀㜀㘀刀㤀砀猀漀䨀唀匀礀瘀䌀昀　嘀挀儀ഊhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/17424601 at N00/281088669/ ਀ഊSeveral folks have asked me about traditional Bedouin tent construction. While I can't vouch for the period accuracy of any of the above links, they will show you many modern tents. I've also included an account from a historical traveler, as well as some older pictures. I suspect (having very little to base this on) that the tents haven't changed all that much from our time period. With all the YMMV stuff out of the way, does anyone have a few black goats I can borrow that need a haircut? ਀ഊ~Catalina ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䈀愀爀戀愀爀愀 䜀椀氀戀攀爀琀 㰀欀攀稀椀愀 愀琀 瀀戀最椀氀戀攀爀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊDate: July 17, 2008 1:53:18 PM CDT ਀吀漀㨀 䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䈀爀礀渀 䜀眀氀愀搀 㰀戀爀礀渀ⴀ最眀氀愀搀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Bedouin tent links ਀ഊThe 14X14 pavilion I carry is a period bedouin tent. It has many features that make it practical and durable. There are no grommets or holes of any kind in the material so there is no ripping. Everything is tied down with straps, tabs or cords. The poles are tied to the top and the center pole has a pillow between it and the top. The back is a foot or so shorter than the rest of the tent. You should place the back of the tent toward the wind so it flows over the top. As the poles are tied they don't fall. The pillow on the center pole cushions the fabric from the pole and gives flexibility when the wind blows. I have seen my bedouin tent stand at Steppes Warlord when most of the other pavilions did not. ਀ഊThe women are responsible for putting up and taking down the tents. I have put up this tent many many times by myself over the last 9 or so years. One article I read even had instructions on how to put it up. It's so easy you wouldn't believe it. ਀ഊMany of you have seen the tent/pavilion just did not know what it was. I'll have to see if I can find my paper work. The tent will be at Queens, if you are curious come by. ਀ഊKiabarta Kezia ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ瀀ⴀ琀攀渀琀猀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㈀㐀 漀昀 ㈀㐀ഊ ਊ