Turkey-msg - 12/9/99 Period Turkey. Culture, history. NOTE: See also the files: Byzantine-msg, fd-Turkey-msg, fd-Hungary-msg, Middle-East-msg, ME-feasts-msg, ME-dance-msg, turkeys-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:49:38 -0500 From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US> Subject: RE: SC - turkish food in the North > At 3:16 PM -0400 5/24/99, Varju at aol.com wrote: > >The Turks arrived into Asia Minor at a much later > >date, wiping out what remained of the Byzantine Empire. They established the > >Ottoman Empire which expanded through much of the near and far east and as > >far north as Hungary by 1527. > > I think you are confusing the Turks in general with the Ottoman Turks. > Other groups, especially the Seljuks, came much earlier; when the First > Crusade went through Anatolia, it was fighting Turks. I'm not sure if the > earliest Turkish incursions in Anatolia were as early as the Magyar > incursions, but they can't have been a lot later. > > David/Cariadoc The original Turks were people who spoke Turkic, the tribes who inhabited Turkistan, the area between the Caspian and China, the Aral and Afganistan. Beginning in the 9th Century, some of these tribes moved into the Byzantine Empire and Central Europe. This migration was the one that forced the Magyars from the Caucasus to Hungary. In the 11th Century, the Seljuk Turks conquered and established a dynasty which ruled Turkistan and Asia Minor. The Seljuk fortunes waned in the 13th Century and their empire broke up into a number of Turkish states. The Ottomans began their expansion as the Seljuk Empire collapsed and by the 14th Century, they had established the Ottoman Empire. The dynasty was formally established in 1290. On March 3, 1924, Kemal Mustafa, president of Turkey, abolished the caliphate and banished all members of the House of Osman, formally terminating the Ottoman rule. Bear Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:59:54 EDT From: Varju at aol.com Subject: Re: SC - turkish food in the North According to Stuart Legg in _The Barbarians of Asia_ the Seljuk Turks began their push into the Byzantine Empire in the mid 1000's. The Magyars arrived in 895 CE were defeated in the Battle of the Lechfield in 955 CE and began to accept Christianity aroun 1000 CE. I will have to check, but I believe the Ottoman Turks may be the decendants of the Seljuk Turks, but i need to double check my sources on that one. Noemi <the end> Edited by Mark S. Harris Turkey-msg 2