Persia-msg - 5/4/19

History and culture of period Persia.

NOTE: See also the files: fd-Persia-msg, Middle-East-msg, Islamic-bib, Turkey-msg, fd-Mid-East-msg, ME-revel-fds-art, za-atar-msg.

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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 20:10:37 -0500
From: rmhowe <MMagnusM at bellsouth.net>
To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Embroidery motif question

> Does anyone know a good scholar of 18th century embroidery?  Middle
> Eastern embroidery?

Got a book in ex Design Library, NC state U.

Suggest you review The Traditional Crafts of Persia
Their Development, Technology, and Influence on Eastern and Western
Civilizations, by Hans E. Wulff
MIT Press, Massachusetts Instutute of Technology, Cambridge, Mass
an London England, 1966     LoC # 66-22462

Covers making gold threads among a host of other techniques.
Tremendous amount of technology covered, not always to my satisfaction
though. Leaves you wanting to see the other books referenced, some
in German. Gives a whole lot of Farsi (Persian) terms for everything.
Textiles, a little leather, cloth soled shoes, metals, engineering,
etc are covered.

Magnus - supper's getting cold now.


Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:10:20 -0400
From: Sam Wallace <guillaumedep at gmail.com>
To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: [Sca-cooks] 15th Century Travelogues

I found this set of travelogues while digging through Google Books. They 
are of a pair of Italians who ventured to Persia, Poland, Russia and 
other regions. There is some interesting mention of cuisine and culinary 
customs, but not as many details as might be desired. It is worth 
digging around in them as these areas did not produce many culinary 
works until well after 1600.

Travels to Tana and Persia
http://books.google.com/books?id=RxgRAQAAIAAJ

Guillaume


Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:52:11 -0400
From: Sam Wallace <guillaumedep at gmail.com>
To: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Russian and Persian Resources

 Here are a couple of resources I found concerning Russia and Persia:

Early voyages and travels to Russia and Persia
http://books.google.com/books?id=nHEMAAAAIAAJ
http://books.google.com/books?id=cAA7AAAAIAAJ

Of the Russe Common Wealth
http://books.google.com/books?id=XDs8AAAAcAAJ

Guillaume


Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:55:18 -0400
From: Johnna Holloway <johnnae at mac.com>
To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Russian and Persian Resources

Also the full text of the
Russia at the close of the sixteenth century, By Giles Fletcher, Sir  
Jerome Horsey, Jerome Horsey (sir.)
 catalogued as:

Russia at the close of the sixteenth century: comprising, the  
treatise "Of the Russe common wealth," by Giles Fletcher : and the  
Travels of Sir Jerome Horsey, now for the first time printed entire  
from his own manuscript.

London : Printed for the Hakluyt Society, 1856.
 is available. The plain text edition may be easier for people to  
work from.

19th century Hakluyt Society publications can be searched in Google  
Books fairly easily. Use the Advanced Search feature and enter
Hakluyt Society under publishers. Once the list for 130,000 plus  
titles pops up, click on full view in the left column and the list  
will shorten to 87,000.
Then you can enter more search parameters to narrow the list to  
countries or by time.

Johnna


From: Edward de Kent <edwarddekent at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [CALONTIR] Metal bit question
Date: January 16, 2013 at 3:04:40 PM CST
To: CALONTIR at listserv.unl.edu

James Allan's book Persian Steel has a discussion of bits of that period.  Evidently by the 16th century both curb and snaffle bits were in use in Persia.  Given the focus of the book I presume they were made out of steel, but you'd have to check the book to be sure.

Wash U's Art Library has a copy, not currently checked out.  Call number NK6473 .A45 2000.  If you can't ILL it you can at least go look at it in person.

Also, while researching this I happened across an early 17th century book in German all about horse bits.  It's available in scanned form online.  Lots of pretty pictures of 16th century bits and bridles, which may be of interest:

http://dfg-viewer.de/show/?set%5Bmets%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fdaten.digitale-sammlungen.de%2F~db%2Fmets%2Fbsb00057401_mets.xml

This blog post excerpts several of the illustrations:

http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2011/01/horse-bits.html

-Edward


On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Eowyth þa Siðend  <Eowyth at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

<<< I'm trying to research the common types of metal used during the Safavid Dynasty (~1501-1722 Persia). I've run into a couple references of brass being used, but nothing more concrete than a third sources (I can't trace it back to even a secondary source.)

The metal that I'm most interested in are the pieces used for equestrian equipment (bits, bridles, saddles, etc), but these would likely have been the same as those used for any armor or other leatherwork items (I think?).

Any help or direction would be great!

In Service,

Eowyth þa Siðend >>>


Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:10:46 +1300
From: tamara at suncrow.com
To: "Shambles (Lochac)" <lochac at sca.org.au>
Subject: [Lochac] Persian martial arts print articles

On weapons and techniques, in various languages.  Some require an academia.edu login, but many don't.  For you smithing types, there are some articles on re-creating Persian crucible steel from recipes in 
period manuscripts.

Kazimira

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Happy New Year and online access to my print articles
Date: 2013-12-31 03:22
From: Manouchehr Moshtagh Khorasani <manouchehr at moshtaghkhorasani.com>
To: Manouchehr Moshtagh Khorasani <manouchehr at moshtaghkhorasani.com>

Dear colleagues,

I wish everyone a Happy New Year. My team has put up half of my print 
articles (65 so far) online for free access for the academic, museum and 
collectors communities.

https://independent.academia.edu/ManouchehrMoshtaghKhorasani [1]

I wish you a very successful year.

Kind regards
-- 
Dr. Manouchehr Moshtagh Khorasani
Email: manouchehr at moshtaghkhorasani.com

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