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Medieval points of interest in Germany.


NOTE: See also the files: Germany-bib, Gaul-art, France-msg, Poland-msg, Landsknechts-msg, Europe-msg, fd-Germany-msg.





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    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous

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From: mchance at crl.com (Michael A. Chance)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Embroidery Stitches

Date: 20 Mar 1995 15:44:32 -0800


Mistress Alison writes:

>There's another (more German) style of narrative tapestry work that

>is (I think) 13th c.


>The hanging I mention tells the story of Tristan and Isolde.


Is this the tapestry at the abbey in Celle, Germany?  If so, I've had

the opportunity to see it, up close, and it's truly magnificent.


For those who are either in Europe or are planning to be in northern

Germany (near Hannover or Braunschweig/Brunswick) in late May/early

June, the Celle abbey (which is normally not open to visitors, except

for a small gift shop/book store) holds guided tours of its collection

of medieval tapestries for just 10 days each year, starting on

Whitmonday.  None of the nuns giving the tour at the time that we were

there spoke enough English that they could do all of the tour in

English, by they tried their best to give us the important bits.

(And they were patient beyond all belief with a couple of crazy

Americans with a cranky one month old baby.)


Well worth the effort to try to find the time.


Mikjal Annarbjorn


Michael A. Chance          St. Louis, Missouri, USA   "At play in the fields

Work: mc307a at sw1stc.sbc.com                             of St. Vidicon"

Play: mchance at crl.com



From: Michael Gartner <zxmhx04 at hp30.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Help with German Persona

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 17:53:26 +0200


On 9 Sep 1995, Nanette Rioux wrote:

> I am helping a new member establish a persona, and need information about

> 3 german cities, specifically when they were founded. The cities are

> Ludwigslust, Wolfenbuttel and Eisleben.

> --

> Sexburga the Shameless ( Keeper of the Book of Tacky Names)  8*)

Meine Hochgeborene Dame,


out of a casual interest in German geography I can give you a little

information (very little)


Eisleben, is in the district of Halle (around 40 km NW of Halle, in the

middle of Germany).  The earliest record of Eisleben is dated 974 (Lat.

Islebia).  In 1045, at which time it belonged to the counts of Manfield,

it recieved the right to hold markets, coin money and levy tolls.  It is

the birthplace of Martin Luther.


Wolfenbuettel (mit Umlaut) is now in lower Saxony, and is situated on

both sides of the Okar, 12 km south of Brunswick.  A castle is said to

have been built on the site of Wolfenbuettel by a Margrave of Meissen

about 1046.  In 1267 it became the residence of the Brunswick

(Wolfenbuettel) line of counts, the town grew gradually around it.  The

town passed into possession of the Brunswick/Wolfenbuettel family in 1671

and for nealy 100 years was the ducal capital.  The library is rich in

Bibles and books from the early Reformation period, and contains some

fragments of the Gothic Bible of Ufilas.


Ludwigslust?  I am not sure of this town.  Two towns in the south,

Luwigsburg and Ludwigshafen are 18th century creations.


Sources: Geschichte der deutschen Volks, Schmidt, T (1957)

         Encyclopedia Brit.  (1962)

and a little first hand knowledge :*)


Viel Spass, und Tchuess


Michael H. Gartner

(Duncan, der Herrn des Brockhaus, Ordnung des Lorbeers)

Eberhard-Karls Universitaet

Tuebingen, Deutschland



Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:40:34 +0100

From: "Cindy M. Renfrow" <cindy at thousandeggs.com>

Subject: SC - Hello


Greetings from Germany!

I've finally gotten settled, and have email again.


I have been thinking of you all, as I've been exploring Berlin.  I've found

shops selling whole lambs, & lamb heads, and bulk spices including whole

mace blades.  Sugar cones are downright common -- they're even for sale in

the local grocery store.  (What I haven't found yet is beef steaks, in

American-style cuts and quantities.)   In all, it's a great place for a

feast, except that there's no SCA group anywhere nearby. :-{


The variety of food here in Berlin is just incredible!  I walk down our

district's main street & it's all I can do to resist buying a little bit of

everything.   To give you some idea, within walking distance there are at

least half a dozen bakeries full of delectable pastries and breads, 2

confectioners shops specializing in wonderful chocolates, fresh veggie

stands, cheese shops, sausage vendors, roast-chicken vendors, pretzel

bakers, ice cream parlors, and coffee shops, not to mention IMBISS

(take-out) stands with fresh roast Thuringer Bratwurst (Yum!) or Turkish

döner (roast lamb (?) slivers  in a bun with chopped veggies, sheep cheese

& garlic sauce) all within 2 or 3 blocks of one another -- and that's just

on the main street! There are more on the side streets. Most of the shops

are open to the street (even in foul weather), so you can smell the aromas

of the food  as you pass by.


There are weekly street markets all over the city.  Some have fresh meats,

sausages, cheeses, etc., and others are like flea markets. I've been

keeping an eye out for old cookbooks, but haven't scored any yet.



cindy at thousandeggs.com



From: zebee at zip.com.au (Zebee Johnstone)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: Areas of period Germany

Date: 9 Apr 2000 08:43:03 GMT


Malachias Invictus <X at X.com> wrote:

>Does anyone have maps of what Germany looked like during different time

>periods, particularly during the period covered by SCA?  What were the

>different little countries called?  I recall Prussia, Bavaria, and Saxony. . .


SCA period sorta big :)


For example... my historical atlas says that in around 1000, there was

Saxony, (Halberstadt, Hamburg, Bremen, Utrecht) Scalvonia which Hand

Branddenburg, Shleswig,, and was east of the Elbe, The Duchy of Bohemia

which included Prague, Th Duchy of Bavaria which included Salzburg and

was south of the Danube, Duchy of Carinthia which went as far south

as Verona, Allemannia/Swabia which went almost as far as Bergamo, The

middle bit was the Franconian Duchies, off to the West were the Duchies

of Lorraine - upper and lower.


In 1560, the Holy Roman Empire included the Swiss, the Netherlands,

Savoy, the bits around Germany seem to be Bohemia, Saxony, Brandenburg,

Moravia, Austria, Carinthia, Bavaria, And a whole bunch of city states

and church lands which aren't "kingdomes" as such.


Sure you aren't thinking of all the little Ruritanian things that date

from the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648, and times after?





Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:58:07 EST

From: "Gwendolen Lambert" <marillian at hotmail.com>

Subject: SC - Medieval Kitchen


Two weeks ago, I had the wonderful opportunity to attend Crown Tourney in

the Kingdom of Drachenwald.  It was held in Central Germany, at Ronneburg

Castle.  Ronneburg Castle was built in the 12th Century, has been restored

although there is quite a lot of original stonework, carvings, etc. that

remain.  It is also an inhabited Castle, museum and restaurant (they have to

make money somehow to keep it running).


To put it mildly, it was incredible!  There is a working medieval kitchen

(yes, I have pictures in case anyone would like to see) in which the

bountiful feast was prepared.  I lost count at how many courses were served.

  What surprised me the most is how small the kitchen area was! However, I

got dizzy looking up at the chimney which seemed to go on for a quarter mile

up. I have been in Castles before, and the kitchens were immense.  This one

however, consisted of a fire pit complete with cauldron, and a small work

station.  Because of the changing weather conditions, the kitchen oftentimes

fills up with smoke, which floats above your head like a cloud.


I had the distinct honour of being the only non-Royal sitting at High Table

and well, I could definitely get used to that! *grin* Nevertheless, I was

treated with such graciousness by all, even though I don't wear gold,

silver, or brass on my head, nor do I have any titles or initials other than

AoA after my name. (Ok, I admit, I'm a peon compared to many of the esteemed

members on this list).


I will admit, it was nice not to be working in the kitchen on this event and

was able to enjoy the beautiful countryside, the grounds and the impressive

fighting that took place.





From: "Wanda Pease" <wandap at hevanet.com>

To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] OT - Going to Bingen

Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:19:13 -0700


>Hi!  I'm going to Bingen (as in Hildegard von) next week, & was wondering

>if y'all know of any "must see" places & things to do there.


>Cindy M. Renfrow


Assuming you mean the one on the Rhein, er..,  Rhine, you want to get out to

see the Mouse Tower.  The little jewel of a castle on the island in the

middle of the stream across from the town.  Buy Wine, Buy Much Wine!   Yum!

Whine, snivel.  If possible take a Cruise up to Koeln.  See the Cathedral.

This is the stretch that has all the famous castles on it.  I remember when

Prince Valiant took a trip down the Rhine because Aleta was going back to

the Misty Isles with the Kids for a visit.  All the pictures the comic

artist used of castles were instantly recognizable as OUR (Knights

Crossing - the Barony of the Broken Wain, or the "What's Ours is Ours.

What's Yours is Ours.  What is not nailed down is Ours.  If it can be pried

loose, it is not nailed down".


Regina Romsey,

Baroness Knights Crossing (Robber Baronesses are Period Too!)



Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:50:21 -0400

From: "John" <john at jtdiii.com>

Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: [Carolingia] [C-A] My Trip to Germany

To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>,


It is really too bad that you will not be visiting in September, during the

Museumsufferfest, which is a grand festival up and down both sides of the

Main river, it is about 4 Km long covering both sides of the river and has

three avenues of  booths with food, alcohol, museum displays, art displays

and multiple bands playing on each sides.  Well worth the visit if you can

make it.


For the medievalist, I highly reccomend the Ledermuseum in Offenbach, near

the border with Frankfurt.  It has a number of wonderful medieval shoes, and

during the Museumsufferfest they have a master and apprentices making shoes

in a display booth.  Their contact info is:




John McGuire


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