France-msg - 4/24/08
French culture. Medieval points of interest.
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Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous
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From: cjcannon at ucdavis.EDU
Subject: RE: 'New book'
Date: 3 Dec 1993 18:41:13 -0500
Greetings to all ye Fisherfolk!
One of my correspondents indicated that he had been passing along
bibliographic info. on 'on-topic' books he'd seen at the library where he
worked. He was quitting to go off to Grad School, and suggested I take
his place. I don't know if I'll be able to do that, but here's one I just
Paterson, Linda M.
The world of the troubadours : medieval Occitan society, c. 1100-c. 1300
/ Linda M. Paterson.
Cambridge ; New York, NY : Cambridge Univ. Pr., 1993.
xii, 367 p. : ill., map ; 24 cm.
Includes bibliographical references (p. -355) and index.
Library of Congress Card no.:92-37723 ISBN:0521352401 ca. $60 hdbd.
The dust-jacket 'blurp' suggests that this is the first comprehensive
study of Occitania, 'the south of France' and its society. It says that
the author's approach is multi-disciplinary and offers insights into
issues otherwise unavailable to those without specialist
I hope it meets someone's interests/needs.--Carol (currently awaiting my
info./application packet in order to join the SCA, which means I'm one of
those 'infernal' lurkers, I suppose.)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:13:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Lisa Steele <lsteele at mhc.mtholyoke.edu>
Subject: White Rose Publishing
To: Mark Harris <markh at sphinx>
OK, you asked:
White Rose is a small publishing company specializing in medieval
source books, atlases, etc. (we also publish a medieval RPG). Our most
recent work _Medieval France_ is a 285 page atlas covering 9-15C French
geography, history, society, 14 counties and duchies, useful vocab.,
common names, etc. It includes 2 full size maps, 14 regional maps, 8
city maps (including a 2 page spread of 15C Paris) and a fair amount of
misc. art. It is being used as a supp. text by the history department of
a well known college (we don't yet have their permission to say who) and
was just reviewed in the Herald's Letters of Acceptances and Returns.
Price is $21.95 plus $3.00 shipping from White Rose, P.O. Box 933,
Amherst, MA 01004-0933. (Mass. residents add 5% sales tax).
We are hoping to release a University source book by Pennsic and have
contracted for a Cathedral and a Jewish Communities source book. We are
in the market for writers, artists, and public domain art.
From: guettier at moretcri.ensmp.fr (Christophe GUETTIER)
Subject: Re: Help with French persona, please!
Date: 4 Aug 1995 06:52:13 GMT
Organization: E'cole Nationale Supe'rieure des Mines de Paris, Centre de Recherche en Informatique (CRI-ENSMP)
Ferro, Non Orro
Here are some Langue D'Oc Great Names
Southern France Medieval Historical Names :
Hugue de Lusignan
Adhemar de Monteil
Raymond de St Gilles, Conte de Toulouse, Marquis de Provence
Guillaume de Sabran
Conte des Beaux
Some Langue D'Oc feudal places :
Noves (Commanderie Templier)
ChateauNeuf (also a good wine)
Puylaurens (Cathare place)
Montsegur (Cathare place)
Subject: Re: ANST - Bill de Provence
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 97 23:10:48 -0500
From: Scott Fridenberg <scottf at galstar.com>
To: "Ansteorra" <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>
>I just happened to notice this signature line today:
>>--Bill (who will soon hopefully have a better name once he can nail down
>>some research on 13th c. Provence)
For 11c - 13c Provence research an execellent place to start is a book called
Pilgrims, Heretics, and Lovers by Claude Marks. Macmillan Publishing CO.,
Inc. New York. ISBN 0-02-579770-0
The book is an introduction to the Troubadours disguised as a
history book. It's very readable and makes an execellent introduction to
This book is prouably out of print so you will need to use Inter-Library
Loan if your library doesn't have a copy. In fact if you want to do much
study on Provence you will prouably get to know your ILL librarian pretty
Another good book is
The World of the Troubadurs: Medieval Occitan Society, c. 1100-c. 1300
Linda M. Paterson. Cambridge University Press 1993. ISBN 0-521-35240-1
I belive that this book is still in print.
I hope this helps. If anyone is interested in research on the
Troubadours, I've tracked down some pretty good sources, and would be
glad to help.
Barony of Northkeep
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:47:36 EDT
From: WOLFMOMSCA at aol.com
Subject: Re: SC - De Bello Gallico was: Celtic Dung Fires
h940114 at stud.kol.su.se writes:
<< Speaking of DBC...Has anyone been able to find an english translation of it ?
I've searched for it but only come up with smaller parts/extracts on-line which
were still in Latin which is not, I'm sorry to say, on my list of languages
I'm fluent in.
Angus MacIomhair. >>
The Battle for Gaul, Translation of De bello Gallico, tr. Anne & Peter
Wiseman, ISBN 0-87923-306-0, publ David R. Godine, Boston, 1980.
From: "willowdewisp at juno.com" <willowdewisp at juno.com>
Date: June 29, 2007 12:12:58 AM CDT
To: ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: [Ansteorra] Persona French
Here is one of those Victorian books everyone warns you about. I found it fairly correct and it tells you where it got a lot of its stuff (no real footnote) It really gives some good insights into the French medieval world. Also the data is in one place. I wouldn't use it as documentation for A&S because artisans look down on anything Victorian but it will give you a feel for Medieval France.
This site has the illustration which seem to be taken form period sources.