Europe-msg - 5/17/09 ਀ഊMedieval points of interest in Europe. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: England-msg, London-msg, France-msg, Ireland-msg, Scotland-msg, Paris-msg, East-Eur-msg, Germany-msg, Italy-lnks, Leicester-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: kathy.duffy at buckys.com (Kathy Duffy) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Request for Travel Ideas ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㌀㄀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 　㐀㨀㐀㔀㨀　　 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Bucky's BBS (609)861-1131 * Dennisville, NJ ਀ഊV> As I have been in the service of my "master" for seven years, ਀ 㸀  ⠀愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀渀琀爀礀⤀ 䤀 愀洀 愀氀氀漀眀攀搀 琀漀 琀愀欀攀 愀 氀攀愀瘀攀ഊ > of two months to tend to those things I would wish to do. I wish to ਀ 㸀  猀攀攀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀Ⰰ 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀Ⰰ 䤀爀攀氀愀渀搀⸀⸀⸀ 愀渀搀 愀氀氀⸀ 䤀 眀椀猀栀 琀漀 猀攀攀 挀愀猀琀氀攀猀⸀ 䤀ഊ > wish to see Midieval re-creations. I wish to see the great cathedrals ਀ 㸀  愀渀搀 眀漀爀欀猀 漀昀 愀爀琀⸀ 䤀 眀椀猀栀 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 眀栀椀挀栀 漀甀爀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 戀爀漀琀栀攀爀猀ഊ > (and sisters) have found to be relevant and reasonably accurate for our ਀ 㸀  猀琀愀琀攀搀 琀椀洀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ 䤀 眀椀猀栀 䤀 欀渀攀眀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀漀 猀琀愀爀琀⸀ഊ ਀䐀漀渀✀琀 洀椀猀猀 䈀爀甀最攀猀 椀渀 䈀攀氀最椀甀洀 漀昀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 眀攀 瘀椀猀椀琀攀搀 椀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀ഊwas the most beautiful, the most medieval, the one place we would return ਀琀漀 愀琀 琀栀攀 搀爀漀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀愀琀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 愀渀搀 爀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀ഊhistory here - architecture, museums, art, -- 13th century through ਀刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀⸀  吀栀攀 挀愀渀愀氀猀 愀爀攀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 椀猀 攀砀焀甀椀猀椀琀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 氀愀挀攀 椀猀ഊunbelievable and the chocolate is heavenly. It was spectacular!!! ਀ഊIf you are going further south...Spain for instance. Granada is the ਀栀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䄀氀栀愀洀戀爀愀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 琀漀漀欀 洀攀 愀渀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 搀愀礀 琀漀 猀攀攀⸀  圀攀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀ഊwhen they opened the doors and where the last ones ushered out. It was ਀琀栀攀 猀椀渀最氀攀 洀漀猀琀 戀攀愀甀琀椀昀甀氀 愀渀搀 漀爀渀愀琀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 攀瘀攀爀 猀攀攀渀⸀  吀栀攀ഊcathedral has the tombs and effigies of Ferdinand and Isabel and the old ਀䴀漀漀爀椀猀栀 猀椀氀欀 洀愀爀欀攀琀 眀愀猀 昀甀氀氀 漀昀 最爀攀愀琀 匀䌀䄀 最漀漀搀椀攀猀⸀  䤀 愀洀 猀琀椀氀氀 欀椀挀欀椀渀最ഊmyself for not purchasing the Moors vs. crusaders chess set... ਀ഊIn France there is not alot of Medieval goodies in Paris but the Cluny ਀䴀甀猀甀攀洀 椀猀 搀攀瘀漀琀攀搀 琀漀 椀琀⸀  吀栀攀礀 攀瘀攀渀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 刀攀搀 唀渀椀挀漀爀渀 琀愀瀀攀猀琀爀椀攀猀ഊwhich were spectacular. The Louvre of course has tons of beautiful ਀琀栀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 漀甀爀 琀椀洀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 眀攀愀爀 最漀漀搀 挀漀洀昀礀 猀栀漀攀猀⸀ 䐀漀渀✀琀 洀椀猀猀 琀栀攀ഊgardens of Versailles even if they aren't period, you will never see ਀愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 愀最愀椀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀ⴀⴀ 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 眀攀 氀椀瘀攀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 昀漀爀 ㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 愀渀搀 眀攀 猀愀眀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 搀攀愀氀⸀ഊThe highlights...York in Northern England, the cathedral is sublime, the ਀挀愀猀琀氀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瘀椀欀椀渀最 搀椀最 眀愀猀 洀攀洀漀爀愀戀氀攀⸀  䠀愀搀爀椀愀渀✀猀ഊwall is close by. If you drive and are coming up from London don't miss ਀䰀椀渀挀漀氀渀⸀  匀漀甀琀栀 漀昀 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 椀渀 倀漀爀琀猀洀漀甀琀栀 愀琀 琀栀攀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀 猀栀椀瀀礀愀爀搀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀ഊMary Rose (Henry VIII's flagship) well worth the trip and close by is a ਀攀愀爀氀礀 搀愀爀欀 愀最攀 瘀椀氀氀愀最攀⸀  吀栀攀渀 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 匀琀漀渀攀栀攀渀最攀 ⠀愀 琀愀搀ഊdisappointing by the way) but 20 miles north of there is Avebury where ਀琀栀攀 猀琀漀渀攀 挀椀爀挀氀攀 椀猀 氀愀爀最攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 猀甀爀爀漀甀渀搀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 瘀椀氀氀愀最攀⸀  夀漀甀 洀愀礀ഊtouch the stones unlike Stonehenge etc. Cornwall has Tintagel and the ਀䌀愀猀琀氀攀猀 椀渀 圀愀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀⸀⸀⸀䠀愀爀氀攀挀栀Ⰰ 䈀攀愀甀洀愀爀椀猀Ⰰ 䌀漀渀眀愀礀 挀愀渀ഊbe seen in one day or two and are really close distance wise. ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: bq676 at torfree.net (Kristine E. Maitland) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀漀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀甀礀㼀ഊOrganization: Toronto Free-Net ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㄀㨀㄀㤀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䈀漀渀愀 搀椀攀猀Ⰰ 琀甀琀琀椀℀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀 搀漀椀渀最 椀琀㨀 䤀✀洀 最漀椀渀最 漀渀 洀礀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 琀漀甀爀⸀  䤀 猀栀愀氀氀 戀攀 ഊtravelling to : Rome, Florence, Venice, Lucerne (Switzerland), Paris and ਀䰀漀渀搀漀渀⸀  䄀氀氀 椀渀 ㄀㈀ 搀愀礀猀 ⠀愀爀最栀栀栀栀栀栀栀栀栀⤀⸀ഊ ਀圀栀愀琀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 椀猀㨀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀甀礀㼀  䤀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 瀀椀挀欀 甀瀀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ⴀ琀礀瀀攀 ഊstuff that I can't get in Canada. So far, I am told that I should get a ਀瀀愀椀爀 漀昀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 椀渀 昀氀漀爀攀渀挀攀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 猀琀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀琀礀氀攀⸀  ഊ ਀䤀 愀氀猀漀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 瀀椀挀欀 甀瀀 愀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 戀漀甀渀搀 戀漀漀欀 椀渀 䘀椀爀攀渀稀攀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀⸀ 圀栀愀琀 攀氀猀攀㼀  䄀渀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀㼀ഊ ਀猀椀渀挀攀爀攀洀攀渀琀攀ഊInez ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瀀愀砀椀洀甀猀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀倀䄀堀䤀䴀唀匀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀漀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀甀礀㼀ഊDate: 14 Jul 1997 22:58:59 GMT ਀ഊWell just remember to spend your money "wisely". My friend went there for ਀栀椀猀 栀漀渀攀礀洀漀漀渀 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 挀漀渀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀瘀攀 眀椀琀栀 栀椀猀 昀甀渀搀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀ഊbeginning of the trip (say Firenze) and when he got to Venezia he found he ਀挀漀甀氀搀渀琀 戀甀礀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 栀攀 栀愀搀✀渀琀 戀漀甀最栀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀䘀氀漀爀攀渀挀攀 栀愀猀 攀砀挀攀氀氀愀渀琀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 最漀漀搀猀Ⰰ 愀琀 䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀攀 倀漀渀琀攀 嘀攀挀挀栀椀漀 戀甀琀Ⰰഊthe prices can still be rather expensive even with the conversion of Lire ਀琀漀 搀漀氀氀愀爀猀 猀漀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 昀椀最甀爀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀猀琀 昀椀爀猀琀⸀ഊ ਀伀栀 愀渀搀 洀愀爀欀攀琀 搀愀礀 愀琀 琀栀攀 倀漀渀琀攀 嘀攀挀挀栀椀漀 椀猀 漀渀 愀 吀䠀唀刀匀䐀䄀夀 瘀攀爀礀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀愀渀琀 琀漀ഊremember also don't freak out if they tell you the banks are on STRIKE it ਀樀甀猀琀猀 洀攀愀渀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀 挀氀漀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 漀爀 琀眀漀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 挀栀攀挀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀洀猀 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 椀渀 愀氀猀漀 琀栀攀 䰀椀戀爀愀爀礀猀 愀爀攀ഊopen to the public if your going in to study in other words don't act like ਀愀 琀漀甀爀椀猀琀 漀渀挀攀 礀漀甀爀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 琀愀欀椀渀最 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 攀琀 愀氀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀礀 瀀漀猀琀挀愀爀搀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀洀猀 挀栀攀愀瀀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 漀昀 琀漀渀猀 漀昀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 漀昀ഊthe musems items and all sorts of other stuff. Buy of Flag of Firenze ਀琀栀攀礀✀爀攀 戀攀愀甀琀椀昀甀氀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 戀爀椀渀最 洀攀 戀愀挀欀 愀 渀椀挀攀 昀爀甀椀琀戀愀猀欀攀琀℀℀ഊ ਀䈀甀漀渀愀 䘀漀爀琀甀渀愀ഊ ਀䐀漀渀 䜀椀甀氀漀 搀✀䴀攀搀椀挀椀ഊG.M. Cavalieri della Ordine dei Santo Stefano ਀䌀愀瀀琀⸀ 䜀攀渀攀爀愀氀攀 䌀漀洀瀀愀最渀椀愀 搀攀氀氀愀 䈀愀渀搀攀 一攀爀攀ഊThe Italians RPFS ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀愀洀攀猀 欀漀挀栀 㰀愀氀挀栀攀洀 愀琀 攀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀漀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀甀礀㼀ഊDate: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:47:45 -0400 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 愀氀挀栀攀洀 椀渀挀ഊ ਀䬀爀椀猀琀椀渀攀 䔀⸀ 䴀愀椀琀氀愀渀搀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I'm finally doing it: I'm going on my European tour. I shall be ਀㸀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀氀椀渀最 琀漀 㨀 刀漀洀攀Ⰰ 䘀氀漀爀攀渀挀攀Ⰰ 嘀攀渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 䰀甀挀攀爀渀攀 ⠀匀眀椀琀稀攀爀氀愀渀搀⤀Ⰰ 倀愀爀椀猀 愀渀搀ഊ> London. All in 12 days (arghhhhhhhhh). ਀㸀 ഊ> What I need to know is: what should I buy? I want to pick up period-type ਀㸀 猀琀甀昀昀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 最攀琀 椀渀 䌀愀渀愀搀愀⸀  匀漀 昀愀爀Ⰰ 䤀 愀洀 琀漀氀搀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 最攀琀 愀ഊ> pair of gloves in florence as they still make them in period style. ਀㸀 ഊ> Inez ਀ഊDear Mr. Inez, When I last visited Florence there was an antique ਀⠀猀漀甀瘀攀渀椀爀 猀栀漀瀀⤀ 琀礀瀀攀 猀琀漀爀攀 氀漀挀愀琀攀搀 渀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 䈀愀爀最攀氀氀漀 眀栀椀挀栀 猀漀氀搀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀ഊand reproduction medieval and renaissance brass oil lamps. The tall ਀琀愀戀氀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀猀⸀  吀栀攀 䘀氀漀爀攀渀琀椀渀攀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀攀猀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀漀ഊlight their homes at the end of the last century. The prices on the ਀氀愀洀瀀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀攀⸀  䘀氀漀爀攀渀挀攀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 昀甀氀氀 漀昀ഊshops selling modern reproduction majolica! I love majolica. It can be ਀愀 戀椀琀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 猀栀椀瀀 椀琀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀 爀攀搀甀挀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊchance of it being crushed in your luggage. Copper aquamaniles are also ਀渀椀挀攀⸀  䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 洀椀渀攀 椀渀 愀 搀攀瀀愀爀琀洀攀渀琀 猀琀漀爀攀 椀渀 娀甀爀椀挀栀⸀  䨀椀洀 䬀漀挀栀 ⠀䜀氀愀搀椀甀猀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Melissa Rogers" ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: So what should I buy? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㔀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 　㄀㨀㐀　㨀㄀㜀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䤀 挀愀渀 漀渀氀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 愀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 洀礀 昀愀洀椀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀ഊtreasure: purchase a simple painting, sketch, etc. wherever you go. I ਀栀愀瘀攀 栀愀渀最椀渀最 椀渀 洀礀 栀漀洀攀 瘀攀爀礀 椀渀攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 瀀漀猀琀 挀愀爀搀猀 昀爀漀洀 倀愀爀椀猀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 愀昀琀攀爀ഊbeing framed, look very nice and almost always draw a comment from new ਀瘀椀猀椀琀漀爀猀⸀  䔀瘀攀渀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 愀爀攀 洀礀 ∀猀椀搀攀眀愀氀欀 愀爀琀椀猀琀∀ 瀀爀椀渀琀猀 昀爀漀洀ഊFlorence, Venice, and a pair from Montreal. I even found _old_ handpainted ਀戀漀漀欀 瀀愀最攀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀攀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 瀀椀愀稀稀愀猀 椀渀 䘀氀漀爀攀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 渀漀 氀漀渀最攀爀ഊexist in that form ... for a couple of bucks, they are invaluable to me for ਀琀栀漀猀攀 洀攀洀漀爀椀攀猀℀  䐀漀渀✀琀 瀀愀猀猀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀攀攀琀 洀愀爀欀攀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀洀愀氀氀 戀漀漀欀 猀栀漀瀀猀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 昀愀琀栀攀爀✀猀 昀愀洀漀甀猀 洀漀琀琀漀㨀 礀漀甀 渀攀瘀攀爀 爀攀最爀攀琀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀最猀 礀漀甀 戀甀礀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 爀攀最爀攀琀ഊthe things you don't. Unless you plan to be back over there soon, loosen ਀甀瀀 琀栀攀 瀀甀爀猀攀 猀琀爀椀渀最猀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 愀猀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀昀昀漀爀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀甀礀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀ഊtouches your heart. ਀ഊLady Eilidh nin Choinnich, Meridies ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瀀漀眀攀爀猀 愀琀 挀漀氀漀渀⸀挀椀猀⸀漀栀椀漀ⴀ猀琀愀琀攀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀眀椀氀氀椀愀洀 琀栀漀洀愀猀 瀀漀眀攀爀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀漀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀甀礀㼀ഊDate: 15 Jul 1997 14:07:26 -0400 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 吀栀攀 伀栀椀漀 匀琀愀琀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀Ⰰ 䐀攀瀀愀爀琀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 䌀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 䤀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 匀挀椀攀渀挀攀ഊ ਀䤀渀 䰀甀挀攀爀渀攀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 猀攀攀 椀昀 琀栀攀 圀愀昀昀攀渀猀愀愀氀 匀琀愀洀瀀昀椀氀椀 椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 椀渀 戀甀猀椀渀攀猀猀ഊand go drool over the crossbows. ਀ഊwilelm ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㌀㨀　㐀㨀㔀　 ⴀ　㘀　　ഊFrom: valarltd at hotmail.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀漀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀甀礀㼀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀ഊOn my European Tour, ਀䤀 戀漀甀最栀琀 搀漀氀氀猀⸀  䌀栀攀愀瀀Ⰰ 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 琀漀甀爀椀猀琀 搀漀氀氀猀Ⰰ 搀爀攀猀猀攀搀 椀渀ഊthe costumes of the region I was in. Very inexpensive, and still ਀愀 搀攀氀椀最栀琀 ㄀㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 氀愀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀礀 瀀漀猀琀挀愀爀搀猀Ⰰ 最甀椀搀攀 戀漀漀欀猀⸀ ⠀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀攀 昀漀爀 一漀琀爀攀 䐀愀洀攀Ⰰ ㄀ 昀漀爀 嘀攀爀猀愀椀氀氀攀猀ഊand 1 for Canterbury) ਀ഊIn Lucerne, buy Chocolate. Also, pay a visit to Bucherer's department ਀猀琀漀爀攀⸀ 䤀 猀琀椀氀氀 眀攀愀爀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀挀栀 䤀 戀漀甀最栀琀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀  䐀漀渀✀琀 洀椀猀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀ഊbridge. ਀ഊTake lots of pictures, buy lots of postcards incase the pics don't come ਀漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀䬀攀攀瀀 愀 樀漀甀爀渀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 漀昀 䤀琀愀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀䰀礀⸀ 䄀攀琀栀攀氀礀渀搀攀Ⰰ 䴀攀爀椀搀椀攀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Robbin Long ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Backpack trip to europe ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀　㨀㌀　㨀　㔀 ⴀ　㘀　　ഊOrganization: University of Missouri ਀ഊI went to school in Madrid, Spain, so if you speak Spanish you MUST ਀椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 匀瀀愀椀渀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 琀爀椀瀀⸀  倀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀氀礀 最爀攀愀琀 眀愀猀 匀愀渀 䰀漀爀攀渀稀漀 搀攀 䔀氀ഊEscorial, the castle complex built by Felipe (II(?) known as the Great, ਀䴀愀爀礀 漀昀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀✀猀 栀甀猀戀愀渀搀⤀ 椀渀 䔀氀 䔀猀挀漀爀椀愀氀Ⰰ 愀 爀攀猀漀爀琀 琀漀眀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 栀椀氀氀猀ഊnorth of Madrid. If you saw the movie "The Four Musketeers" there is a ਀洀甀爀愀氀攀搀 栀愀氀氀眀愀礀 椀渀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 猀甀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 椀渀 嘀攀爀猀愀椀氀氀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀ഊwas actually filmed in this castle. Toledo, Avila (birthplace of St. ਀吀攀爀攀猀愀 漀昀 䄀瘀椀氀愀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最爀攀愀琀 洀礀猀琀椀挀猀⤀Ⰰ 匀攀最漀瘀椀愀Ⰰ 䜀爀愀渀愀搀愀 愀渀搀ഊSalamanca (home of the (arguably) oldest university in Europe) are also ਀洀甀猀琀ⴀ猀攀攀猀Ⰰ 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 䌀漀洀瀀漀猀琀攀氀愀 ⠀漀昀 瀀椀氀最爀椀洀 昀愀洀攀⤀⸀  䄀猀 猀椀氀氀礀 愀猀 椀琀ഊsounds, get one of those "Spain on $20 a day " books - they tell you the ਀搀愀礀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀搀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀 椀猀 昀爀攀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀猀 愀渀搀 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀 椀猀 愀氀氀漀眀攀搀⸀  ഊ ਀吀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀攀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 昀漀漀搀 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀 ⠀椀昀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀ഊLOTS of garlic and olive oil), and the weather (outside of July and ਀䄀甀最甀猀琀⤀ 椀猀 昀愀渀琀愀猀琀椀挀 ⠀愀瘀漀椀搀 䜀爀愀渀愀搀愀 椀渀 䄀甀最甀猀琀Ⰰ 椀琀✀猀 戀攀愀猀琀氀礀 栀漀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊPamplona in June - too crowded). Also, stay away from the amateur ਀戀甀氀氀昀椀最栀琀猀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀琀爀漀渀最 猀琀漀洀愀挀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀眀愀礀猀 猀椀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊshady, albeit more expensive, side. Be warned, politics are taken much ਀洀漀爀攀 猀攀爀椀漀甀猀氀礀 琀栀愀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 唀匀 ⠀䤀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 猀愀眀 瀀愀爀琀椀猀愀渀猀 猀瀀椀琀 漀渀 䘀爀愀渀挀漀✀猀ഊgrave at El Valle de los Caidos). ਀ഊI, too, backpacked the rest of Europe when I was done with school. ਀䰀漀瘀攀搀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀Ⰰ 䘀爀愀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀Ⰰ 漀渀氀礀 爀愀渀 椀渀琀漀 爀甀搀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 椀渀 䈀攀氀最椀甀洀⸀ഊWatch the youth hostels, they are notoriously theft-ridden. I took ਀漀瘀攀爀渀椀最栀琀 琀爀愀椀渀猀 愀渀搀 猀氀攀瀀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀栀攀挀欀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 愀 栀漀琀攀氀 漀爀 瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀ഊonce every three days or so to get a real bath (as opposed to a ਀猀瀀椀琀ⴀ戀愀琀栀 漀甀琀 漀昀 愀 琀爀愀椀渀 猀椀渀欀⤀⸀  䔀甀爀愀椀氀 瀀愀猀猀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀 䜀刀䔀䄀吀 搀攀愀氀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊmust be bought in the US and don't work in Great Britain (you need a ਀䈀爀椀琀刀愀椀氀 瀀愀猀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䠀愀瘀攀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 䤀 攀渀瘀礀 礀漀甀⸀ ഊBrianne ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 最攀漀爀最攀挀漀爀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䜀攀漀爀最攀 䌀漀爀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀愀挀欀瀀愀挀欀 琀爀椀瀀 琀漀 攀甀爀漀瀀攀ഊDate: 21 Mar 1998 00:29:11 GMT ਀ഊ>only ran into rude people in Belgium. ਀㸀圀愀琀挀栀 琀栀攀 礀漀甀琀栀 栀漀猀琀攀氀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀漀爀椀漀甀猀氀礀 琀栀攀昀琀ⴀ爀椀搀搀攀渀⸀  䤀 琀漀漀欀ഊ>overnight trains and slept on them, and checked into a hotel or pension ਀㸀漀渀挀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀 琀栀爀攀攀 搀愀礀猀 漀爀 猀漀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀 爀攀愀氀 戀愀琀栀 ⠀愀猀 漀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 愀ഊ>spit-bath out of a train sink). Eurail passes are a GREAT deal, but ਀㸀洀甀猀琀 戀攀 戀漀甀最栀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 唀匀 愀渀搀 搀漀渀✀琀 眀漀爀欀 椀渀 䜀爀攀愀琀 䈀爀椀琀愀椀渀 ⠀礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 愀ഊ>BritRail pass for that). ਀ഊYES!!!!!! People in Belgium are very rude. Everywhere I went there I keep ਀昀攀攀氀椀渀最 猀瀀椀琀 漀渀⸀ 吀栀攀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 䤀 眀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀 眀愀猀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀ഊwe were nazi's at the hotel we checked into. ਀夀䔀匀℀℀℀℀ 夀漀甀琀栀 栀漀猀琀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀 爀椀猀欀⸀ 匀攀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀砀琀爀愀 洀漀渀攀礀 愀渀搀 最攀琀 愀 瀀爀椀瘀愀琀攀 爀漀漀洀⸀ഊSleeping on the train is good but 'sleeper cars'(bed) are extra even with your ਀䔀甀爀漀ⴀ爀愀椀氀 瀀愀猀猀⸀ 䄀渀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀渀礀 最漀漀搀 猀氀攀攀瀀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 戀攀 最漀椀渀最 愀 眀愀礀猀⸀ ⠀吀栀攀ഊtrains are very fast) ਀夀䔀匀℀℀℀℀ 䤀昀 戀愀挀欀瀀愀挀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 䔀甀爀漀ⴀ爀愀椀氀 瀀愀猀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 琀漀 最漀⸀ 䘀漀爀 䈀爀椀琀愀椀渀 礀漀甀ഊneed a Brit-rail pass. They are more expensive. If I did it again I might get ਀漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀戀漀 䈀爀椀琀ⴀ爀愀椀氀 刀攀渀琀ⴀ愀ⴀ䌀愀爀 搀攀愀氀猀⸀ 䄀氀猀漀 椀昀 礀漀甀爀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 䈀爀椀琀愀椀渀 愀渀搀ഊthe main land think about how your going to get across (ferry or chunnel) and ਀洀愀欀攀 愀爀爀愀渀最洀攀渀琀猀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 爀攀最愀爀搀椀渀最 琀爀愀瘀攀氀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 氀攀愀瘀攀⸀ 䤀琀 洀甀挀栀ഊcheaper. ਀ഊEronric of Devon ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 一漀瘀 ㈀　　㠀 ㈀㄀㨀　㔀㨀㐀㤀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "tudorpot at gmail.com" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 搀爀愀眀 漀渀 礀漀甀爀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀攀渀挀攀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊOn Nov 14, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Stefan li Rous wrote: ਀㰀㰀㰀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 眀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 昀漀氀欀猀 昀漀爀 戀椀最 琀漀甀爀椀猀琀 栀漀琀攀氀猀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀  ഊstay in those in the US or Hawaii. So these other alternatives ਀猀漀甀渀搀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最⸀ 䌀愀渀 礀漀甀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 猀漀洀攀 洀漀爀攀 搀攀琀愀椀氀猀㼀 圀攀✀瘀攀 愀氀猀漀  ഊconsidered hostels, but we aren't young, college age folks any more. >>> ਀ഊI was in my mid forties when I last went Europe-- Austria and Italy. ਀䤀渀 嘀椀攀渀渀愀 䤀 猀琀愀礀攀搀 椀渀 愀 瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀ⴀ 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 栀漀琀攀氀ⴀ 渀愀洀攀 椀猀 渀漀琀 甀猀攀搀 愀猀  ഊmuch - but think of a ten room or less accommodation - the one I ਀猀琀愀礀攀搀 愀琀 眀愀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 昀氀漀漀爀 漀昀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最⸀  䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀  ഊpaid about 30 Euros a night- that was in 2002. No flashy sign, hotel ਀洀愀琀挀栀戀漀漀欀猀Ⰰ 愀 戀愀猀椀挀 挀漀氀搀 戀爀攀愀欀昀愀猀琀Ⰰ 渀漀 渀椀最栀琀 最甀愀爀搀ⴀ 礀漀甀 最攀琀 愀 欀攀礀 琀漀  ഊlet yourself in after hours. ਀ഊAt that time there was not a lot of info on the net re Monasteries ਀愀渀搀 䌀漀渀瘀攀渀琀猀ⴀ 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 戀漀漀欀 愀琀 琀栀攀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀⸀ 一漀眀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 氀漀琀 洀漀爀攀  ഊinfo. You are more likely to stay in a period building this way. I ਀猀琀爀漀渀最氀礀 爀攀挀 䰀漀渀攀氀礀 倀氀愀渀攀琀 最甀椀搀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀琀爀愀瘀攀氀⸀渀礀琀椀洀攀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀㈀　　㠀⼀㄀　⼀㄀㤀⼀琀爀愀瘀攀氀⼀㄀㤀樀漀甀爀渀攀礀猀⸀栀琀洀氀㼀ഊ ਀䄀猀 昀漀爀 愀最攀ⴀ 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀椀砀琀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀攀瘀攀渀琀椀攀猀 椀渀  ഊthe hostels I stayed in. In the future I will stay in them again. Too ਀洀甀挀栀 椀猀 洀椀猀猀攀搀 戀礀 猀琀愀礀椀渀最 椀渀 戀椀最 栀漀琀攀氀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀琀愀挀琀  ഊwith the people and miss so much. I'd rather have the money for food, ਀愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀 搀愀礀猀 琀爀愀瘀攀氀椀渀最⸀ 䤀昀 䤀 栀愀搀 最漀渀攀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀瘀攀渀琀椀漀渀愀氀 爀漀甀琀攀ⴀ 䤀  ഊwould have only been able to stay in Vienna and go to my conference- ਀琀栀甀猀 洀椀猀猀椀渀最 琀眀漀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 眀攀攀欀猀 椀渀 䤀琀愀氀礀⸀ 䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 琀椀瀀ⴀ 䤀 戀漀漀欀攀搀 愀渀  ഊopen-jaw ticket. Flew from Toronto via London to Vienna- left from ਀刀漀洀攀 琀漀 䰀漀渀搀漀渀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 吀漀爀漀渀琀漀⸀ 一漀琀 洀甀挀栀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 挀漀猀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀  ഊI saved back tracking to Vienna. From Vienna I took the overnight ਀琀爀愀椀渀ⴀ 猀氀攀攀瀀攀爀ⴀ 猀愀瘀攀搀 洀漀渀攀礀 漀渀 愀 爀漀漀洀ⴀ 愀渀搀 琀栀甀猀 愀爀爀椀瘀攀搀 昀爀攀猀栀 椀渀  ഊVenice ready to see the sites. ਀ഊIn italy the most I spent was 40 euros a night for a one room with ਀瀀爀椀瘀愀琀攀 戀愀琀栀 椀渀 嘀攀渀椀挀攀⸀ 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 戀礀 琀愀氀欀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 最攀渀琀氀攀洀愀渀 眀栀漀  ഊgreeted me at the train station- it is mentioned in a Lonely Planet ਀最甀椀搀攀Ⰰ 愀猀 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀⸀ 䠀攀 猀栀漀眀攀搀 洀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀漀漀洀猀 愀渀搀  ഊwhere the hotel was on the map. When I agreed on one- he called and ਀洀愀搀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀攀爀瘀愀琀椀漀渀ⴀ䤀 最甀攀猀猀 栀攀 眀愀猀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀 挀漀洀洀椀猀猀椀漀渀⸀ 嘀攀爀礀  ഊreasonable, and the room was perfect. I tend to not make reservations ਀昀漀爀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 漀渀攀 漀爀 琀眀漀 搀愀礀猀 愀昀琀攀爀 䤀 氀愀渀搀 椀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀⸀ 吀栀愀琀 眀愀礀 䤀 愀洀  ഊfree to change my plans. I found on my arrival in Florence that a ਀渀愀琀椀漀渀愀氀 栀漀氀椀搀愀礀 眀愀猀 漀渀 ⴀ 琀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀猀 眀攀爀攀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 挀爀漀眀搀攀搀 漀爀 挀氀漀猀攀搀ⴀ  ഊso I moved on to Rome and spent the extra days there. ਀ഊFreda ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ䔀甀爀漀瀀攀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 㜀 漀昀 㜀ഊ ਊ