tiles-msg - 8/21/02 Period tiles and uses. Sources for tiles. Making them. NOTE: See also the files: tiles-art, pottery-msg, plaster-msg, glues-msg, frescoes-msg, glasswork-msg, enameling-msg, tiles-bib. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:38:05 EST From: To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Mosaic tiles << Does anyone have a good source or two for mosaic tiles? Ingvild >> You mean the type to cut up, right? You can find "seconds" at many Home depot/tiling places. Sometimes you can find them at good will extra tiles that people made mug holders with. I know of a glass place in the LA area that sells mosaic glass bits. Really cool. Sometimes you can make deals with interior designers/tile people on their bits. I got some when I had my house fixed and asked for the extra carpeting and tiles. Contractors sometimes have extras too. --Mercy Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:12:14 -0500 From: "Gray, Heather" To: "'sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu'" Subject: RE: Mosaic tiles perusing the Internet: http://www.mosaicmerc.com/ (Located in San Francisco area -- glass, including smalti and vitreous, and tools) http://www.mountaintopmosaics.com/ (Located in Vermont -- vitreous glass and smalti, basic tools, books, advice) http://www.pompei-mosaic.com/ (marble, but I'm not sure they sell the tiles -- they may only do the work themselves for you) http://hsgs.com/mosaic2.htm (glass, comes pre-cut in 3/4" squares on an adhesive-backed sheet) http://www.qualityimaging.globalcenter.net/mosaic.html (non-period, but interesting. You can have a photo put on tiles, which you can then have framed. Or I imagine you could put it on the wall directly...) http://www.mosaic-witsend.com/ (Florida - supplies, tools, books, classes) http://www.mosaicart-cheek.demon.co.uk/ (Located in UK (Broadstairs, Kent) and Greece - supplies, kits, classes in UK and Greece) I did find a few sites that had marble tiles, but they seemed to be primarily for flooring, and I don't remember enough about stone mosaic to know if these are thick enough for use as small pieces. If you're interested, here's a couple of the sites: http://nitcotiles.com/ http://www.chooseindia.com/vitco/index.htm I think Home Depot sells marble tiles as well (that's a large home improvement center chain -- I don't know if they are found everywhere). I didn't include ceramic sources, because I didn't come across ceramic in the bits of research I did back in college -- if someone has, I'd like to know :) Elwynne Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:15:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ioan verch David To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Mosaic tiles A fellow by the name of Padruig, here in Northshield, does mosaics on occassion and his method of obtaining small pieces from larger ones is to put them in a sturdy cloth bag and whack away at them with a hammer on concrete. You don't get exactly sized pieces, but if you are careful and pull out desirable pieces after every few whacks, you get a good proportion of useable pieces with little waste. Its a good way to work out some stress too :) Ioan Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:54:30 -0500 From: rmhowe To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Mosaic tiles Ioan verch David wrote: > A fellow by the name of Padruig, here in Northshield, does mosaics on > occassion and his method of obtaining small pieces from larger ones is > to put them in a sturdy cloth bag and whack away at them with a hammer > on concrete. You don't get exactly sized pieces, but if you are careful > and pull out desirable piece after every few whacks, you get a good > proportion of useable pieces with little waste. > > Its a good way to work out some stress too :) > > Ioan > > --- SNSpies at aol.com wrote: > > Thanks for the ideas on tiles, Mercy. I would prefer not to have to > > cut them > > (another costly tool!) and am really looking for a source of small > > square tiles ready for use. > > > > Ingvild In period they were nippered or cut with a small chisel or a chisel and small hardy. A hardy is a chisel that fits in a block of wood or an anvil, providing the opposite fulcrum. Get a book on Ravenna if you want to see blow away Mosaic work. Little else compares with that in period. These days I suppose a lot of the work could be done with a glass cutter and a pair of tile nippers with carbide teeth. You could buy the pair for about $20 at a home center. As far as a source for really cheap tiles, try visiting your local Habitat for Humanity. Ours has gobs of tiles left over from contractor jobs. Not usually the brightest colors but they they are about $5 the box. They're always selling what they don't want really cheaply. They might have the mastic and grout too. Magnus Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:54:45 EST From: To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Mosaic tiles Found a glass web page. http://www.delphiglass.com This place supplies Venetian glass titles. Tiles are 3/4 inch. Each sheet contains 56 tiles and covers an area approximately 6 1/2" x 7 3/4". Also they have mosic nippers which I have used on glass mosic, but I think they are with carbide tips so can be used on title too. Those lil nippers are great. Faolan Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:21:37 -0500 From: rmhowe To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Mosaic tiles Okay, I'm having a slow day here so: Roman Crafts by Donald Strong and David Brown is an accumulation of articles by specialists in various fields. ISBN 0 7156 0781 2. Published 1976 by Gerald Duckworth and Company, Ltd., The Old Piano Factory, 43 Gloucester Crescent, London NW1. The Wall and Vault Mosaics article is by Frank Sear, British School at Rome, pp. 230-239. The Floor Mosaics article is by David S. Neale, Ancient Monuments Inspectorate, Department of the Environment, pp. 240-252. Both have short bibliographies. The Ravenna, Capital of Mosaic book is extremely well photographed in color. 160 pages. PB. ISBN 88-7193-325-7. My copy is 1990, and it looks to be one of those very good books you get when touring some European cities. So I expect it is in print. Appears to be a multiple language edition in English. 262 photographs of the City. Publisher Italcards Editions, Bologna, Italy. Exclusive Rights For Ravenna: Cartolibreria Salbaroli, Via Gamba, Ravena tel. 0544/32032. Price was 12,000 Italian Lire. There is nothing lacking in the photographs. They're gorgeous. The famous mosaics of Justinian and Theodora are here, and most of the work is Byzantine in flavor. Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:23:59 -0500 From: rmhowe To: Becky McEllistrem , "- SCA-ARTS at listsvr.pca.net" Becky McEllistrem wrote: > I'm interested in a study of mosaics both for SCA > reasons and modern reasons. However I'm increasingly > amazed at the prices of mosaic tiles in local craft > suppliers. Does anyone have a good online supplier > that they've bought from before? > > I'm thinking mostly of glass mosaic tiles that are > less than 1 inch but ceramic tiles would be OK too. > > Rebecca Here's my mosaic bookmarks file. I have not purchased from them yet. Mosaics and Glass Tiles http://www.aftosa.com/ http://www.alltherightangles.com/ http://www.mosaicmerc.com/ http://www.animatile.com/mosaics/default.html http://www.butlerscraftsupplies.com/ http://www.eti-usa.com/ http://www.carterglassmosaic.com/ http://www.dickblick.com/categories/mosaics/ http://www.delphiglass.com/index.cfm?page=homepage http://www.glassplace.com/Default.htm http://www.hannacroismosaics.com/ http://www.hotmosaics.com/ http://www.ladybughill.com/ http://www.mainlymosaics.com/ http://www.monstermosaics.com/ http://www.mosaicbasics.com/ http://www.asprom.org/ http://www.mosaicmercantile.com/ http://www.tabvlarasa.com/ http://www.ladybughill.com/LinksPages/mosaic_supplies.htm http://www.mosaicsupply.com/ http://www.mountaintopmosaics.com/ http://www.mosaicsupplies.com/ http://www.tilemosaics.com/ http://www.warner-criv.com/search.asp http://www.madeinfirenze.it/mosaico_e.htm http://www.smashingtimes.com/ http://www.scsu.edu/sama/ http://www.mosaica.tv/ http://www.mosaic-witsend.com/ Maybe it'll inspire a few people. A few of the sites are companies that sell their own creations, but they are worth looking at any. The others sell materials or are central places for Mosaics study and preservation. Those wishing to use this on their websites are welcome to. Enjoy Master Magnus Malleus, OL © 2001 R.M. Howe *No reposting my writings to newsgroups, especially rec.org.sca, or the SCA-Universitas elist. I view this as violating copyright restrictions. As long as it's to reenactor or SCA -closed- subscriber based email lists or individuals I don't mind. It's meant to help people without aggravating me.* Inclusion, in the http://www.Florilegium.org/ as always is permitted. Edited by Mark S. Harris tiles-msg 6