horsehair-msg - 3/9/09 ਀ഊObtaining and using horsehair for helmet padding and other purposes. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: helm-padding-msg, horses-msg, Horse-n-t-MA-art, horses-lnks, horses-bib, horse-recipes-msg, Sadle-Blankts-art, Stirrups-Hist-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: David Friedman ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: sources of horsehair ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㜀 䘀攀戀 ㈀　　㜀 ㈀㈀㨀㄀㌀㨀　㠀 ⴀ　㠀　　ഊ ਀∀䔀眀愀渀 ⠀䌀愀爀漀氀椀渀最椀愀Ⰰ 䔀䬀⤀∀ 㰀愀搀洀椀渀⸀眀攀猀琀攀爀渀攀猀猀攀䀀最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I'd like to pad my helm with something other than closed-cell foam, and a ਀㸀 焀甀椀氀琀攀搀 栀漀爀猀攀栀愀椀爀ⴀ瀀愀搀搀攀搀 挀漀椀昀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䤀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 爀攀挀愀氀氀 琀栀愀琀 䐀甀欀攀 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀 栀愀猀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀攀搀 猀甀挀栀 愀 琀栀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ> past. Your Grace, where did you obtain your horsehair from? Would one ਀㸀 渀攀攀搀 洀愀渀攀⼀琀愀椀氀 栀愀椀爀 攀砀挀氀甀猀椀瘀攀氀礀Ⰰ 漀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀栀攀 氀椀最栀琀攀爀 昀椀戀攀爀猀 昀爀漀洀 最爀漀漀洀椀渀最ഊ> work? ਀ഊI still use the helm I padded with horsehair and have been happy with ਀椀琀⸀ 䄀猀 戀攀猀琀 䤀 爀攀挀愀氀氀Ⰰ 䤀 最漀琀 洀礀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 猀甀瀀瀀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 愀渀 漀氀搀 栀漀爀猀攀栀愀椀爀 ഊsofa someone was throwing away and later got fresher horsehair from a ਀昀爀椀攀渀搀 眀栀漀 欀攀瀀琀 栀漀爀猀攀猀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 眀栀愀琀 猀栀攀 最愀瘀攀 洀攀 眀愀猀 昀爀漀洀 ഊgrooming, but it was quite a long time ago and I'm not sure. ਀ഊMy padding consists of cloth tubes stuffed with horsehair run vertically ਀甀瀀 琀栀攀 猀椀搀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 栀攀氀洀攀琀㬀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀甀戀攀 栀漀爀椀稀漀渀琀愀氀氀礀 ഊat about my forehead level. But there is a pamphlet somewhere describing ਀愀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀Ⰰ 戀愀猀攀搀 漀渀 愀渀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 猀甀爀瘀椀瘀椀渀最 栀攀氀洀 瀀愀搀搀椀渀最⸀ 䴀礀 ഊmemory is that the "tubes" in that one are elongated triangles sewed ਀琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 栀愀氀昀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀漀渀最 猀椀搀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀瀀猀 栀愀瘀攀 ഊholes, perhaps grommets, with a thong going through them. It works as a ਀猀甀猀瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀 栀攀氀洀ⴀⴀ琀椀最栀琀攀渀 琀栀攀 琀栀漀渀最 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 栀攀氀洀 爀椀搀攀猀 栀椀最栀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀愀洀瀀栀氀攀琀㬀 栀漀瀀攀昀甀氀氀礀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 挀愀渀 漀昀昀攀爀 ഊmore detailed information. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊhttp://www.daviddfriedman.com/ http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/ ਀䄀甀琀栀漀爀 漀昀 开䠀愀爀愀氀搀开Ⰰ 愀 昀愀渀琀愀猀礀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 洀愀最椀挀⸀ഊPublished by Baen, in bookstores now ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 氀椀琀琀氀攀爀攀搀攀昀琀䀀戀氀甀攀昀爀漀最⸀挀漀洀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 漀昀 栀漀爀猀攀栀愀椀爀ഊDate: 5 Mar 2007 09:28:10 -0800 ਀ഊ> I would love to have some sources where folks could buy horsehair for ਀㸀 猀琀甀昀昀椀渀最 椀琀攀洀猀 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 栀攀氀洀 瀀愀搀搀椀渀最 漀爀 昀漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 䄀☀匀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀眀眀眀⸀爀漀挀栀昀漀爀搀猀甀瀀瀀氀礀⸀挀漀洀  猀攀氀氀猀 ㈀㔀 氀戀猀⸀ 昀漀爀 ㈀　　猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 搀漀氀氀愀爀猀⸀ഊShipping, when I asked, was around 20 bucks. Maybe a group or ਀栀漀甀猀攀栀漀氀搀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 最漀 椀渀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 琀漀 琀爀礀 椀琀 漀甀琀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 愀氀猀漀ഊget it on e-bay from a seller in england but the price was quite a bit ਀栀椀最栀攀爀 椀昀 䤀✀洀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀椀渀最 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀氀礀 ⠀愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 最攀琀ഊsmaller quantity) ਀ഊAverill ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䐀愀瘀椀搀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀䀀搀愀瘀椀搀搀昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀⸀渀漀瀀猀愀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 漀昀 栀漀爀猀攀栀愀椀爀ഊDate: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:09:59 -0800 ਀ഊlittleredeft@bluefrog.com wrote: ਀㸀 㸀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀漀瘀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 昀漀氀欀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀甀礀 栀漀爀猀攀栀愀椀爀 昀漀爀ഊ> > stuffing items such as helm padding or for other A&S projects. ਀㸀 ഊ> www.rochfordsupply.com sells 25 lbs. for 200something dollars. ਀㸀 匀栀椀瀀瀀椀渀最Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 䤀 愀猀欀攀搀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 ㈀　 戀甀挀欀猀⸀  䴀愀礀戀攀 愀 最爀漀甀瀀 漀爀ഊ> household would like to go in together to try it out. You can also ਀㸀 最攀琀 椀琀 漀渀 攀ⴀ戀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 愀 猀攀氀氀攀爀 椀渀 攀渀最氀愀渀搀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀 眀愀猀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀 戀椀琀ഊ> higher if I'm remembering correctly (although you may be able to get ਀㸀 猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀礀⤀ഊ> ਀㸀 䠀漀瀀攀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 㨀⤀ഊ> Averill ਀ഊI believe Tandy used to sell horsehair, although I've never bought any ਀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀琀 眀愀猀 氀漀渀最 猀琀爀愀椀最栀琀 栀愀椀爀猀 昀漀爀 漀爀渀愀洀攀渀琀愀氀 瀀甀爀瀀漀猀攀 椀渀 ഊleatherwork. ਀ഊThe best solution might be to check either Goodwill or the equivalent or ਀琀栀椀渀最猀 氀攀昀琀 漀甀琀 昀漀爀 昀甀爀渀椀琀甀爀攀 琀爀愀猀栀 瀀椀挀欀甀瀀 琀漀 猀攀攀 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 昀椀渀搀 愀 ഊmattress or sofa with horsehair stuffing. I'm not sure how easily one ਀挀漀甀氀搀 椀搀攀渀琀椀昀礀 琀栀愀琀ⴀⴀ䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 䤀 甀猀攀搀 眀愀猀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 瀀愀爀琀氀礀 猀瀀氀椀琀 ഊopen. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊhttp://www.daviddfriedman.com/ http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/ ਀䄀甀琀栀漀爀 漀昀 开䠀愀爀愀氀搀开Ⰰ 愀 昀愀渀琀愀猀礀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 洀愀最椀挀⸀ഊPublished by Baen, in bookstores now ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ栀漀爀猀攀栀愀椀爀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㌀ 漀昀 ㌀ഊ ਊ