decor-rivets-msg - 8/8/08
Decorative rivets for leather, armor and other uses.
NOTE: See also the files: blacksmithing-msg, leather-msg, metal-etching-msg, Non-Ferrous-bib, armor-msg, p-armor-msg, a-treating-msg, craft-supplies-msg.
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From: Hal Siegel <therion at therionarms.com>
Date: February 21, 2008 12:41:26 PM CST
To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Decorate Rivets
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Eule wrote:
> Does anyone on this list have any links to pages with decorative brass
> rivets? I've done some searching and can't find what I'm looking
> for....something decorative for armour.
Here's a cool trick -
Get decorative upholstery nails, clip the nail, punch out the center with
a whitney, then use them as a "washer" with a small dome-headed rivet.
See this page for an example of the type of upholstery nails I use:
http://www.beaconfabric.com/vindex.html?cat148.htm
Part of the way down the page, look for "Decorative Nails, Brass Daisy,
Ornamental"
I've never ordered them from that website, just bought a few packs when
I've seen them at fabric stores. The daisy nails are sized perfectly for
1/8" rivets - not good enough for major heavy-duty armor strapping, but
great for decorative work on helmets and gauntlets and the like.
Hal Siegel - TherionArms
Date: February 21, 2008 1:56:21 PM CST
To: "'Barony of Bryn Gwlad'" <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Decorate Rivets
Thanks Therion...I've actually gone that route before but want to move
up to the "real thing". I've seen various examples of rosettes, lions,
etc. and am just looking for more options.
Eule/Steve
Unus sed Leo
-----Original Message-----
Here's a cool trick -
Get decorative upholstery nails, clip the nail, punch out the center
with a whitney, then use them as a "washer" with a small dome-headed rivet.
>>>
From: "Samantha Smith" <sasmith0 at gmail.com>
Date: February 21, 2008 1:29:13 PM CST
To: "Barony of Bryn Gwlad" <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Decorate Rivets
Are you describing something like this?
https://www.revival.us/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=304&HS=1
Sophie
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Eric W. Brown <Brown.EricW at jobcorps.org> wrote:
<<< One of the big armoring sites had, not rivets but "washers" that were cast brass and quite attractive.
If you're interested I'll try to dig up a link.
Cal- >>>
From: "Eric W. Brown" <Brown.EricW at jobcorps.org>
Date: February 21, 2008 2:33:09 PM CST
To: "Barony of Bryn Gwlad" <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Decorate Rivets
Well someone has already posted the one I was thinking aboutÉ
But I also found this..
http://www.bractea.freha.pl/mprice.html
which is pretty fancy, I suggest looking around on the site itÕs very nice.
And you being, Eule, I post this for your inspirationÉ
http://steampunkworkshop.com/electroetch.shtml
IÕve done a very little of this, and think it opens up a lot of
Possibilities for making your own.
In particular IÕm 100% sure we can improve on the process here:
http://steampunkworkshop.com/electro-mach2.shtml
to create ÒwashersÓ that look like anything you want.
IÕve already got a complete setup for etching one side of up to 10Ó*10Ó sheets of brass, And am part way through building a smaller one for double sided etching of 4Ó*4Ó test pieces.
If thatÕs too post period a technique for you, I can easily teach you how to do Ferric Chloride etching of Brass if you have not done itÉ You can use sharpie as a resist and hand draw your own, a nice deep etch takes about 12 hours.
Finally if you are putting it on clothing and not armor, you can look at leather places for riveted conchos.
Cal-
From: maxengel at aol.com
Date: February 21, 2008 2:34:53 PM CST
To: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Decorate Rivets
<<< Does anyone on this list have any links to pages with decorative brass rivets? I've done some searching and can't find what I'm looking for....something decorative for armour.
Eule/Steve >>>
<<< What size? What for? What type? Detail, details.
Max >>>
<<< Heads about 1/4" to 3/8"; about 3/8" to 1/2" long (mainly joining 2 pieces of 18g - 14g steel or steel to leather). Any kind of decorative head, i.e. rosettes, lions, lion heads, shells, or anything else that looks period-ish.
Eule/Steve >>>
The best solution if you can use brass rivets is a decorative cup the you put the rivet in while you pound it. this leaves you with a nice decorated head. I could make one of this or tell you how. If you are using the two piece slam rivets, instead of using the domed setter, use a flower stamp.
Max
From: Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace <sirlyonel at hotmail.com>
Date: February 21, 2008 5:44:35 PM CST
To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad <bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Decorative Rivets
In addition to the two sites posted:
http://steel-mastery.com/index.php?&;model=products_list&category_id=64&parent_id=63
In the US, there's always Talbot:
http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&;Category=44
I think I'm still forgetting one or two armourers who do this sort of thing. I'll post if I remember.
En Lyonel
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