basketweaving-msg - 6/12/09 ਀ഊMedieval basketweaving. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: wood-bending-msg, rattan-msg, straw-crafts-msg, pottery-msg, weaving-msg, lucet-cord-msg, spinning-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀  栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀  栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀  愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀  漀昀  攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀  眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀  眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀  眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀  渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀  愀猀  琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀  漀昀  琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  最椀瘀攀渀  戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀  爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀  愀渀搀  攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀  琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀  琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀  挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀  漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀  椀猀  甀渀挀氀攀愀爀  愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀  椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  椀猀  瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀  昀爀漀洀  琀栀攀猀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: The Custer Family ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Period Basketweaving ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㈀㄀㨀㄀ 㨀㔀  ⴀ 㔀  ഊOrganization: EMI Communications ਀ഊbestfam wrote: ਀㸀 䤀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 最椀瘀攀 洀攀 琀栀攀 琀椀琀氀攀猀 漀昀 愀渀礀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最Ⰰഊ> 'twould be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :) ਀㸀 ഊ> Cicely de Neuton ਀ഊCheck out the list of past Complete Anachronists. I know one of the one ਀䤀 爀攀挀椀攀瘀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀 ㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 眀愀猀 漀渀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀ ⠀䤀✀搀 最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀ഊthe number etc., but most of mine are on loan to othr Shire members.) ਀ഊEaine Flamme ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 椀爀漀渀琀爀攀攀 愀琀 眀愀瘀攀昀爀漀渀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 䨀愀礀 䬀爀攀琀挀栀洀愀爀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 06:35:00 GMT ਀ഊbestfam wrote: ਀㸀 䤀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 最椀瘀攀 洀攀 琀栀攀 琀椀琀氀攀猀 漀昀 愀渀礀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最Ⰰഊ> 'twould be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :) ਀㸀 ഊ> Cicely de Neuton ਀ഊYou might check out Shire publications or Dover Books. I have some ਀椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 ⠀猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀⤀ 漀渀 一漀爀眀攀椀最椀愀渀 眀漀漀搀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 愀渀搀 戀攀渀琀眀漀漀搀 戀漀砀攀猀⸀ഊI know that Colonial Williamsberg also does a style of basket weaving ਀琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 甀渀挀栀愀渀最攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 搀愀礀猀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀  䤀ഊspoke with their reaver about the use of a draw knife (bevel side ਀搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 甀渀猀甀愀氀⤀ 漀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀椀爀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 猀琀爀椀瀀猀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 䬀爀攀琀挀栀洀愀爀 ⠀椀爀漀渀琀爀攀攀 愀琀 眀愀瘀攀昀爀漀渀琀⸀挀漀洀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Daniel Kretchmar ਀吀漀㨀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ഊDate: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 00:24:53 -0800 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䤀爀漀渀琀爀攀攀ഊ ਀䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀⠀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 䨀愀礀 䬀爀攀琀挀栀洀愀爀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㸀 㸀夀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 挀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 匀栀椀爀攀 瀀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀爀 䐀漀瘀攀爀 䈀漀漀欀猀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀ഊ> >information (somewhere) on Norweigian woodweaving and bentwood boxes. ਀㸀 㸀䤀 欀渀漀眀 琀栀愀琀 䌀漀氀漀渀椀愀氀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀戀攀爀最 愀氀猀漀 搀漀攀猀 愀 猀琀礀氀攀 漀昀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ> > that was unchanged from medieval days so that it is still period. I ਀㸀 㸀 猀瀀漀欀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀椀爀 爀攀愀瘀攀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 愀 搀爀愀眀 欀渀椀昀攀 ⠀戀攀瘀攀氀 猀椀搀攀ഊ> > down, which I found unsual) on making their basket strips. ਀㸀 ഊ> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Which is the bevel side? the back? ਀㸀 䤀昀 猀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 䤀 愀洀 攀瘀攀渀 洀漀爀攀 挀漀渀昀甀猀攀搀 渀漀眀⸀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 搀爀愀眀 欀渀椀昀攀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 洀攀琀栀漀搀 漀昀 甀猀椀渀最 椀琀 椀猀 戀攀瘀攀氀 猀椀搀攀 搀漀眀渀⸀ 吀栀攀 攀搀最攀 椀猀 猀栀愀爀瀀攀渀攀搀 漀渀氀礀 漀渀 漀渀攀 猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 戀漀琀栀 猀椀搀攀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀 ഊkitchen knife. That edge side is called the bevel. Strips of wood used ਀椀渀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 愀爀攀 琀愀欀攀渀 漀昀昀 椀渀 氀漀渀最 猀琀爀椀瀀猀 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀攀 昀椀戀攀爀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 挀甀琀 ഊbut instead are split. The fibers need to remain intact for a basket ਀猀琀爀椀瀀⸀  䈀礀 甀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀爀愀眀欀渀椀昀攀 戀攀瘀攀氀 猀椀搀攀 甀瀀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 爀攀愀瘀攀爀猀 愀琀 挀漀氀漀渀椀愀氀 ഊWilliamsburg don't cut through the fibers but instead use the drawknife ਀愀猀 愀 眀攀搀最攀 愀渀搀 猀瀀氀椀琀 琀栀攀 昀椀戀攀爀猀 ⠀椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 挀甀琀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 戀攀瘀攀氀 猀椀搀攀 甀瀀Ⰰ ഊwhich is a good thing when you are splitting wood and don't want to cut it) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀氀椀挀攀爀㠀㌀㜀  愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀匀氀椀挀攀爀㠀㌀㜀 ⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊDate: 3 Jan 1997 13:26:16 GMT ਀ഊMy mother learned how to basketweave and taught me many years ago. The ਀䄀瀀瀀愀氀愀挀栀椀愀渀 猀琀礀氀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 愀爀攀攀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 愀氀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 愀渀愀挀栀爀漀渀椀猀琀 ⠀䤀ഊcan't remember the number either) but any books about appalachian baskets ਀眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 攀最最 戀愀猀欀攀琀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀⸀琀栀愀琀 漀渀攀 䤀 䬀一伀圀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Tireachan ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Period Basketweaving ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ  㐀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㤀㨀 㘀㨀㔀㜀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊ ਀匀氀椀挀攀爀㠀㌀㜀  眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> My mother learned how to basketweave and taught me many years ago. The ਀㸀 䄀瀀瀀愀氀愀挀栀椀愀渀 猀琀礀氀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 愀爀攀攀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 愀氀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 愀渀愀挀栀爀漀渀椀猀琀 ⠀䤀ഊ> can't remember the number either) but any books about appalachian baskets ਀㸀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 攀最最 戀愀猀欀攀琀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀⸀琀栀愀琀 漀渀攀 䤀 䬀一伀圀 椀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀爀爀礀 椀琀 琀漀漀欀 洀攀 猀漀 氀漀渀最 琀漀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀搀⸀  夀攀猀 琀栀攀 攀最最Ⰰ 昀愀渀渀礀 漀爀 洀攀氀漀渀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 ഊis period - in fact, there is a color illumination of one included in ਀琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 䘀愀戀甀氀漀甀猀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀 ⠀愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 椀琀猀 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最⤀ 琀栀愀琀 甀猀攀猀 ഊflat reed (probably ash wood, oak or hazel) instead of the more commonly ਀甀猀攀搀 眀椀氀氀漀眀⸀  䄀猀 昀漀爀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀洀愀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 ഊnone, it is simply one of those arts that has been passed down from ਀昀愀琀栀攀爀 琀漀 猀漀渀 昀漀爀 最攀渀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀洀愀欀椀渀最 眀愀猀 漀渀氀礀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 愀 ഊsubject that anyone wrote about at all (last 80 years or so). The ਀挀氀漀猀攀猀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 䌀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 䄀渀愀挀栀爀漀洀椀猀琀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 愀戀漀瘀攀⸀  䄀猀 昀漀爀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 ഊthough, I use the following: ਀ഊHeseltine, Alastair _Baskets and Basketweaving_ Shire Publications. ਀吀栀椀猀 漀渀攀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀 洀椀猀瀀氀愀挀攀搀 猀漀 䤀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 ഊon it. It does date a treatise by Pliny on the harvesting of willow for ਀戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 愀琀 㜀㤀 䄀䐀 愀渀搀 琀愀氀欀猀 戀爀椀攀昀氀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀最攀ⴀ漀氀搀 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀 漀昀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀⸀  ഊThis is _probably_ the closest you'll come to anything concrete. ਀ഊCort, Louise Allison _A Basketmaker in Rural Japan_. A Smithsonian book ਀琀栀愀琀 挀愀洀攀 漀甀琀 愀 昀攀眀 礀攀愀爀猀 戀愀挀欀 愀戀漀甀琀 䨀愀瀀愀渀攀猀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 ⴀ 椀琀 栀愀猀 ഊobviously changed little in the last thousand years. ਀ഊGabriel, Sue and Goymer, Sally _The Complete Book of Basketry ਀吀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀开⸀  䤀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 漀渀氀礀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀 戀甀琀 ഊit is an excellent learning guide and shows how to make some baskets ਀琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最猀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀瀀瀀攀Ⰰ 䘀氀漀 开圀椀挀欀攀爀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀开⸀  䤀 栀愀搀 琀栀攀 漀瀀瀀漀爀琀甀渀椀琀礀 琀漀 猀琀甀搀礀 甀渀搀攀爀 䘀氀漀 ഊHoppe once and her book is almost as informative as she is. Again, it ਀漀渀氀礀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀开吀栀攀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䠀攀愀氀琀栀 䠀愀渀搀戀漀漀欀开⸀  圀栀椀挀栀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀琀 礀攀琀 猀攀攀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 ഊassures me that it has _many_ pictures of period baskets. ਀ഊArt books. The only way to become an accomplished medieval basketmaker ਀椀猀 琀漀 氀攀愀爀渀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 昀椀爀猀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 瀀漀甀爀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀昀 愀爀琀 ഊand reproduce what they actually made. Documentation can be ਀搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀愀挀欀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀爀攀愀琀椀猀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 ഊimpossible. Flat reed basketry was _comparatively_ very uncommon, so ਀爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀 椀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀猀琀 昀漀挀甀猀 礀漀甀爀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀⸀  䈀攀猀椀搀攀猀Ⰰ 椀琀猀 洀漀爀攀 ഊchallenging _and_ fun :) ਀ഊLady Tireachan ਀䄀爀琀攀洀攀猀椀愀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Tireachan ਀吀漀㨀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ഊDate: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:10:39 -0700 ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ഊ ਀㸀 圀栀礀 搀漀 礀漀甀 昀椀渀搀 爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 琀漀 戀攀 洀漀爀攀 挀栀愀氀氀攀渀最椀渀最 愀渀搀 昀甀渀㼀ഊ ਀刀漀甀渀搀 刀攀攀搀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 椀渀栀攀爀攀渀琀氀礀 洀漀爀攀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 搀攀愀氀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 眀椀氀氀漀眀⸀  䄀渀礀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀礀 搀攀最爀攀攀 漀昀 愀爀琀栀椀琀椀猀 挀愀渀 愀琀琀攀猀琀 琀漀 椀琀⸀  刀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀 椀猀渀✀琀  渀攀愀爀氀礀  愀猀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 洀漀瘀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀猀 昀氀愀琀 爀攀攀搀Ⰰ 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀琀 爀攀攀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 眀攀爀攀  攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀椀渀最 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  䤀琀✀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 攀愀猀礀Ⰰ 椀昀  礀漀甀  氀漀漀欀 愀琀 愀渀礀 爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀Ⰰ 琀漀 猀攀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 愀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀砀 愀猀猀漀爀琀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀  眀攀愀瘀攀猀⸀  圀椀琀栀 昀氀愀琀 爀攀攀搀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 琀眀漀 戀愀猀椀挀 眀攀愀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀愀椀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 琀眀椀氀氀 眀攀愀瘀攀⸀  圀椀琀栀 爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀  礀漀甀  栀愀瘀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀渀瘀漀氀瘀攀 漀渀攀 琀漀 昀漀甀爀 爀攀攀搀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 戀攀椀渀最 琀眀椀猀琀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀  愀氀氀 愀琀  琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀椀洀攀⸀  䤀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 挀栀愀氀氀攀渀最椀渀最 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀爀愀挀欀 漀昀 椀琀⸀  䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 洀漀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀   瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀漀甀渀搀 爀攀攀搀 ⴀ 猀漀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 洀漀爀攀 挀栀愀氀氀攀渀最攀猀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 琀漀 戀攀最椀渀  眀椀琀栀⸀   䠀漀瀀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 礀漀甀 愀琀 洀礀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 挀氀愀猀猀 愀琀 䔀猀琀爀攀氀氀愀℀ഊ ਀㸀 䤀 洀愀礀 琀爀礀 猀漀洀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 愀最愀椀渀 猀漀洀攀 搀愀礀⸀ 䤀 搀椀搀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 戀愀挀欀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ> Biy Scouts. I'm getting tired of pay high prices, even here in the ਀㸀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 漀昀 吀攀砀愀猀Ⰰ 昀漀爀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 昀愀氀氀 愀瀀愀爀琀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 愀 礀攀愀爀 漀爀 琀眀漀ഊ> of SCA use. The best basket I've ever had was also one of the cheapest, ਀㸀 戀漀甀最栀琀 樀甀猀琀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀攀 戀漀爀搀攀爀 椀渀 䴀攀砀椀挀漀 漀瘀攀爀 猀椀砀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 洀攀愀渀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 栀愀搀 漀渀攀 漀昀 洀礀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 眀攀愀爀 漀甀琀 ⴀ 愀渀搀 䤀✀瘀攀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 愀氀漀琀℀  䔀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 洀礀 戀愀挀欀瀀愀挀欀 戀愀猀欀攀琀℀ഊ ਀吀椀爀攀愀挀栀愀渀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Eric & Lissa McCollum ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: basket--making? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㔀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀  ㄀㨀㄀㔀㨀 ㄀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊ ਀㸀 䤀✀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀琀愀爀琀 洀愀欀椀渀最 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀⸀ 䤀✀洀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 琀椀爀攀搀 漀昀 挀愀爀爀礀椀渀最 洀礀 昀氀甀椀搀猀ഊ> around in bags that look about as period as Igloos!! :-) Unfortunately, I ਀㸀 洀椀猀瀀氀愀挀攀搀 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䔀氀昀眀礀渀 搀攀 䠀愀爀昀氀攀甀爀✀猀 䌀䄀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 猀甀戀樀攀挀琀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀ഊ> ideas, advice, etc, etc, please let me know! Thanks in advance. ਀㸀 ഊ> Isabelle de Foix ਀㸀 䌀漀氀氀攀最攀 漀昀 䴀椀猀琀礀 䴀攀爀攀ഊ> Kingdom of Meridies ਀ഊI found "The Basket Book" by Lyn Siler to be very helpful to ਀琀攀愀挀栀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀椀挀猀 漀昀 昀氀愀琀 爀攀攀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 洀愀欀椀渀最⸀ 䄀渀搀 䴀愀爀愀 䌀愀爀礀✀猀ഊ"Basic Baskets" has good instructions for a general round ਀爀攀攀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀⸀ 䌀栀攀挀欀 礀漀甀爀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 漀爀 戀漀漀欀猀琀漀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀爀愀昀琀猀ഊsection--there are some good instructional books out there. ਀ഊAlso, check around at your craft stores. Reed is kind of ਀栀愀爀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀愀爀爀礀 椀琀⸀ ⠀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀氀猀漀ഊcatalogs to mail order the reed, though I haven't tried ਀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 礀攀琀⸀⤀ 伀昀琀攀渀 琀椀洀攀猀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀爀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀爀爀礀 琀栀攀ഊraw materials will also have kits that have intructions. ਀䤀✀搀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 氀攀愀爀渀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 爀攀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 椀昀ഊyou get hooked you can progress to gathering your own ਀洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀⸀ഊ ਀伀渀 琀栀攀 渀攀琀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 戀漀漀欀洀愀爀欀攀搀㨀ഊhttp://www.ulster.net/~abeebe/basket.html ਀吀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 氀椀渀欀猀 琀漀 漀琀栀攀爀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 猀椀琀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 洀愀礀戀攀 愀 搀漀稀攀渀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀ⴀⴀ椀昀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 猀琀甀挀欀Ⰰഊfeel free to write. :) ਀ഊGwendolen Wold ਀⠀瀀漀猀琀攀搀 ☀ 攀洀愀椀氀攀搀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Preferred Customer" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀愀猀欀攀琀ⴀⴀ洀愀欀椀渀最㼀ഊDate: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:55:04 -0700 ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀 椀猀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀㨀ഊ ਀䈀愀猀椀挀 倀椀渀攀 一攀攀搀氀攀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 戀礀 䨀甀搀礀 䴀甀氀昀漀爀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀琀 挀漀瘀攀爀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 漀昀 瀀椀渀攀 渀攀攀搀氀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀Ⰰ 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀ഊemaving and stiches, to dyes and embellishing. ਀ഊJudy is not SCA, but she is a master of her art, and a very good teacher. ਀ഊThe book is available through her at: ਀ഊJudy Mulford ਀㈀ 㤀㠀 䴀愀渀搀攀瘀椀氀氀攀 䌀愀渀礀漀渀 刀漀愀搀ഊLos Angeles, CA 90049 ਀ഊI don't know how much she asks for it. ਀ഊSven ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀椀欀攀 䈀漀攀氀琀攀爀 㰀渀攀爀愀欀欀瀀戀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀愀猀欀攀琀ⴀⴀ洀愀欀椀渀最㼀ഊDate: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:08:37 -0400 ਀ഊ Check out the May 1998 issue of Mother Earth News which has an ਀愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 漀渀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最⸀ 䄀氀猀漀 戀攀 眀愀爀渀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 挀漀渀猀甀氀琀 琀栀攀ഊJuly 1998 issue as there were some errors in the original issue that are ਀挀漀爀爀攀挀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䨀甀氀礀 椀猀猀甀攀 ⠀瀀愀最攀 㘀 ☀ ☀⤀ 眀椀琀栀 猀氀椀最栀琀氀礀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀⸀ഊ ਀    吀栀攀 渀漀琀愀戀氀攀 琀栀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀猀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 愀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀ഊrecycled paper bags and would be a nice cheap project to keep the ਀猀洀愀氀氀攀爀 匀䌀䄀 洀攀洀戀攀爀猀 愀洀甀猀攀搀 愀渀搀 攀渀琀攀爀琀愀椀渀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀    䴀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀 漀甀琀氀愀礀 椀猀 猀愀礀椀渀最 ✀倀愀瀀攀爀✀ 愀琀 琀栀攀 最爀漀挀攀爀礀 挀栀攀挀欀 漀甀琀 氀椀渀攀Ⰰഊsome white glue and staples. For a large number of baskets I'd probably ਀戀甀礀 洀礀 䰀愀搀礀 愀 戀爀愀渀搀 渀攀眀 挀氀漀琀栀 挀甀琀琀椀渀最 眀栀攀攀氀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀 漀氀搀 漀渀攀 琀漀 挀甀琀ഊpaper with :s) ਀ഊ The baskets appear to be fairly durable and will at the very least ਀氀漀漀欀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 漀爀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 戀愀最猀⸀ഊ ਀吀椀爀椀漀渀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀ഊaka Sir Starhelm Warlocke KbSCA ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㈀㄀㨀㈀㌀㨀 㠀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Maggie Allen" ਀吀漀㨀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Baskets? ਀ഊ>Ohhh. These soft handles sound wonderful. I've had trouble trying to pack ਀㸀愀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 椀渀琀漀 洀礀 昀漀漀琀氀漀挀欀攀爀 昀漀爀 猀栀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 琀漀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀ 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀ഊ>that have almost lost or have completely lost their handles. We were given ਀㸀愀 渀椀挀攀Ⰰ 氀愀爀最攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 愀猀 愀 眀攀搀搀椀渀最 最椀昀琀 琀栀愀琀 氀漀猀琀 椀琀✀猀 栀愀渀搀氀攀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 愀 昀攀眀ഊ>uses. Are these soft handles something that could be retrofitted to an ਀㸀愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 洀愀搀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀㼀 䤀✀瘀攀 愀氀猀漀 猀攀攀渀 猀漀洀攀 最漀漀搀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 戀甀琀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀洀ഊ>because their handle was too flimsy or non-existant. ਀㸀ഊ>Are these soft handles made of rope? Or of flat reeds or willow? ਀㸀䤀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀猀攀 栀愀渀搀氀攀猀 漀爀 戀漀漀欀 爀攀昀攀爀愀渀挀攀猀 琀漀 搀漀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀漀甀氀搀ഊ>be appreciated. ਀ഊI use a cotton webbing (like the straps they use on canvas totes). For a ਀猀椀渀最氀攀 栀愀渀搀氀攀 䤀 甀猀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㈀ⴀ椀渀挀栀 ⠀㔀⸀ 㠀 挀洀⤀ 眀椀搀攀 猀琀爀愀瀀猀⸀  吀栀攀 猀琀爀愀瀀ഊconsists of one single piece wrapped around the basket and threaded between ਀琀栀攀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 椀渀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 ㈀ 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 漀渀 戀漀琀栀 猀椀搀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 愀渀搀 昀椀爀洀氀礀ഊsewn together where the ends overlap. One basket I have has two 1-inch (two ਀㈀⸀㔀㐀ⴀ挀洀⤀ 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 猀琀椀琀挀栀攀搀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 渀椀挀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀Ⰰ 瘀攀爀礀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀椀瘀攀⸀  䤀ഊsuppose you could just work it through several places on either side, fold ਀琀栀攀 攀渀搀猀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀搀 猀攀眀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀愀瀀 愀戀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 眀攀愀瘀攀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 戀甀琀 䤀ഊthink all the way around is more solid. ਀ഊYou can also do this so that you end up with two handles that meet over the ਀漀瀀攀渀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 搀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 椀渀琀攀爀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 戀甀琀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀ഊto start on the bottom go up towards the edge of one side, leave a loop at ਀琀栀攀 琀漀瀀 愀渀搀 最漀 戀愀挀欀 搀漀眀渀 琀栀攀 漀瀀瀀漀猀椀琀攀 攀搀最攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀䄀䴀䔀 猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 瀀愀猀猀 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀ഊbasket (remembering to interweave at least once) and repeat the process on ਀琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 昀椀爀洀氀礀 猀攀眀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀洀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀⸀ഊGenerally you can hide the sewing underneath one of the interweave spots so ਀椀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 猀栀漀眀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 漀渀氀礀 搀漀渀攀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀琀栀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 眀漀瘀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 昀氀愀琀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 爀攀攀搀 ⠀爀愀琀琀愀渀ഊactually - yet another use for rattan) but I think the principle would be ਀琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 昀漀爀 洀愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀礀瀀攀猀 ⠀愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 眀攀戀戀椀渀最 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 䤀ഊwould expect). I also think that you might be able to do this with a ਀戀愀猀欀攀琀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 氀漀猀琀 椀琀猀 栀愀渀搀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 挀爀攀愀琀椀瘀攀 眀攀愀瘀椀渀最 甀琀椀氀椀稀椀渀最 琀栀攀ഊgaps in the weaving where the original handle went. ਀ഊI have one basket (the one with the two 1-inch strip handle) that my lord ਀愀渀搀 䤀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 猀栀漀瀀瀀椀渀最⸀  圀攀 栀愀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㌀  琀漀 㐀  瀀漀甀渀搀猀 ⠀㄀㌀ⴀ㄀㠀 欀最⤀ 椀渀ഊit and the handle held wonderfully. ਀ഊMy lord recommends padding the handle for the touch of luxury. He suggested ਀眀爀愀瀀瀀椀渀最 搀甀挀琀 琀愀瀀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 昀漀愀洀Ⰰ 椀渀攀氀攀最愀渀琀 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 戀甀琀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 猀漀昀琀⸀  䴀愀礀戀攀ഊsheepskin would be nice - hmmmm, (insert mad plotting/planning noises here). ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㘀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀  ㈀㨀㌀㄀㨀㈀㐀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Melanie Wilson ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䤀一吀䔀刀一䔀吀㨀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Baskets ਀ഊ>Anyone know what type of basket or basket material would have been common ਀㸀愀琀 琀栀攀 渀漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 猀栀漀爀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䈀氀愀挀欀 匀攀愀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀 琀漀 氀愀琀攀 ㄀ 琀栀 挀⸀Ⰰ 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀ഊ>heavily influenced by Byzantium and the Kievan Rus. ਀ഊBorbart -Basketwork through the Ages. Great ref. Try interlibrary loan or= ਀ഊit can be got as a reprint here in the UK ਀ഊ>Basket info of all types is also of interest. ਀ഊBASKET-L at LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU ਀ഊOne of my persona is a basket weaver (in fact 2 but only one does it as a ਀瀀爀漀昀昀攀猀猀椀漀渀 ℀⤀ഊ ਀䴀攀氀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 02:19:32 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀攀氀愀渀椀攀 圀椀氀猀漀渀 㰀䴀攀氀愀渀椀攀圀椀氀猀漀渀 愀琀 挀漀洀瀀甀猀攀爀瘀攀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: "INTERNET:sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀猀ⴀ圀椀氀氀漀眀ഊ ਀夀攀猀 䤀 甀猀攀 眀椀氀氀漀眀 昀漀爀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 洀礀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 眀漀爀欀 椀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀ഊof the English basket worker, hard to say how long, but for a very long ਀琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀䈀愀猀欀攀琀眀漀爀欀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 攀愀猀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 琀漀甀最栀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀渀最攀爀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 猀琀爀漀渀最ഊhand (especially doing it all day as I do on displays!). There are loads ਀漀昀 最漀漀搀 戀漀漀欀 漀渀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 䤀 漀渀氀礀 欀渀漀眀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀ഊUS ones. Dorothy Whites one is very interesting from technique & History ਀戀甀琀 伀伀倀 ☀ 唀䬀 瀀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 昀椀渀搀 愀 最漀漀搀 戀愀猀椀挀 戀漀漀欀 椀渀ഊprint ਀ഊMel ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㜀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㠀㨀㌀㤀㨀㄀㈀ ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Maggie Allen" ਀吀漀㨀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Baskets? ਀ഊ>Do you know of any examples of surviving Viking baskets? I'd ਀㸀氀漀瘀攀 琀漀 最攀琀 洀漀爀攀 椀渀昀漀 漀渀 琀栀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 漀渀攀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 䬀甀爀瘀攀爀 戀礀 䨀愀渀 䠀攀渀爀椀欀 䴀甀渀欀猀最愀愀爀搀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀ഊC. Huitfeldt Forlag (ISBN 82-7003-026-0) that a member of my household ਀戀爀漀甀最栀琀 戀愀挀欀 昀爀漀洀 一漀爀眀愀礀 昀漀爀 洀攀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 愀 瀀栀漀琀漀 漀昀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 昀爀愀最洀攀渀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀洀ഊtold is a period piece (by someone who reads Norwegian). It is a round ਀挀漀爀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀渀 漀瘀攀爀眀爀愀瀀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀 昀氀愀琀 爀攀攀搀⼀最爀愀猀猀 ⠀洀愀礀戀攀⤀ 搀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀ഊcoiling type basket weave. I have no idea of the size because it is merely a ਀瀀栀漀琀漀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀砀椀猀琀椀渀最 昀爀愀最洀攀渀琀猀 眀椀琀栀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 昀漀爀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 漀渀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 眀栀漀 猀栀漀眀攀搀 椀琀 琀漀 洀攀 椀猀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊto see if she can remember which book it was in. I'll forward the info when ਀䤀 最攀琀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀攀渀 琀漀氀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 眀爀愀瀀瀀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 愀爀漀甀渀搀ഊrolled hay which was then coiled into basket form. ਀ഊAnother good source for information and additional references is Complete ਀䄀渀愀挀栀爀漀渀椀猀琀 ⌀㜀㜀 戀礀 䰀愀搀礀 䔀氀眀礀渀 搀攀 䈀愀爀昀氀攀甀爀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀猀 椀渀 伀甀爀ഊModern World. The bibliography alone is worth the cost, all the useful info ਀猀栀攀 椀洀瀀愀爀琀猀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 愀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 戀漀渀甀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䤀 渀漀琀椀挀攀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 椀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 匀䌀䄀 甀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 搀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀ഊ>know of actual shapes of baskets that are medieval? A lot of the ਀㸀✀昀愀渀挀礀✀ 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 猀攀攀 椀渀 猀琀漀爀攀猀 猀攀攀洀 洀漀爀攀 嘀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀渀 琀漀 洀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 ഊ>don't know. ਀ഊTo the best of my knowledge most, if not all, modern basket weaving ਀琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 攀砀椀猀琀攀搀 猀椀渀挀攀 瀀爀攀ⴀ栀椀猀琀漀爀礀 ⠀椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀 猀漀洀攀ഊpieces that survived or how would they know) and materials were generally ਀眀栀愀琀攀瘀攀爀 眀愀猀 愀琀 栀愀渀搀 愀渀搀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 ⠀猀漀 椀昀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 樀甀猀琀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀 琀漀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀 眀愀猀ഊavailable at the mouth of the Dneiper river at the Black Sea in the mid to ਀氀愀琀攀 ㄀ 琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 ⴀ 氀攀琀 洀攀 欀渀漀眀⸀  㨀漀⤀  ⤀ഊ ਀倀攀爀猀漀渀愀氀氀礀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 洀漀爀攀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 漀昀 愀渀礀 欀椀渀搀 戀攀椀渀最 甀猀攀搀⸀  䔀瘀攀渀 椀昀ഊthe shape is not 100% period it is certainly less jarring than a mundane ਀欀渀愀瀀猀愀挀欀 漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 漀瀀琀椀漀渀猀 ⠀䤀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 猀漀昀琀 栀愀渀搀氀攀猀 昀漀爀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 瀀愀挀欀椀渀最ഊability). ਀ഊ>One of my persona is a basket weaver (in fact 2 but only one does it ਀㸀䴀攀氀ഊ ਀䴀礀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀 ⠀䬀漀昀椀渀漀瀀漀椀愀 椀猀 䜀爀攀攀欀 昀漀爀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 洀愀欀攀爀⤀⸀ഊI suspect that almost everyone made their own household baskets or had ਀猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 椀渀ⴀ栀漀甀猀攀 眀栀漀 搀椀搀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 愀 ⨀爀攀氀愀琀椀瘀攀氀礀⨀ 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 挀爀愀昀琀 愀渀搀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀ഊwere collectable. ਀ഊMy favorite thing about basket weaving though is that they haven't been able ਀琀漀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀愀挀栀椀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 挀愀渀 搀漀 椀琀 礀攀琀 㨀ⴀ⤀⤀⤀⤀⤀⤀ഊ ਀䴀愀爀最愀爀椀琀愀 䬀漀昀椀渀漀瀀漀椀愀⼀䴀愀最最椀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:53:03 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀漀戀攀爀琀愀 刀 䌀漀洀猀琀漀挀欀 㰀昀爀漀最最攀猀琀漀眀 愀琀 樀甀渀漀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 刀漀瀀攀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 洀愀欀椀渀最 漀昀 挀漀爀搀猀 愀渀搀 爀漀瀀攀猀 椀猀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 愀渀挀椀攀渀琀 ⴀ 瀀爀攀搀愀琀椀渀最 戀漀琀栀ഊweaving and pottery. ਀ഊThere's a dandy little book called _Rope, Twine and Net Making_ , Shire ਀䄀氀戀甀洀猀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 㔀㄀Ⰰ 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 匀栀椀爀攀 倀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 䰀琀搀⸀Ⰰ 䄀礀氀攀猀戀甀爀礀Ⰰ 䈀甀挀欀猀ⰀഊUK. I don't have my copy handy to give you author and ISBN at the ਀洀漀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 栀椀最栀氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀攀渀搀 琀栀攀 匀栀椀爀攀 倀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 猀攀爀椀攀猀 ⠀椀渀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀ഊto the albums on dozens of historical technology and rural life themes, ਀琀栀攀礀 愀氀猀漀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀 猀攀爀椀攀猀 漀渀 攀琀栀渀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀 愀渀搀 愀爀挀栀攀漀氀漀最礀⤀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀椀琀氀攀猀 氀椀猀琀攀搀  漀渀 琀栀攀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 椀渀 洀礀 栀愀渀搀 渀漀眀 ⠀开匀瀀椀渀渀椀渀最ഊand Spinning Wheels_ by Eliza Leadbeater, #43) are: ਀ഊAgricultural Hand Tools - 100 ਀䈀愀猀欀攀琀猀 愀渀搀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀洀愀欀椀渀最  ⴀ  㤀㈀ ⠀眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 礀攀琀⤀ഊBricks and Brickmaking - 75 ਀匀栀攀瀀栀攀爀搀椀渀最 吀漀漀氀猀 愀渀搀 䌀甀猀琀漀洀猀 ⴀ ㈀㌀ഊStraw and Straw Craftsmen - 76 ਀圀漀漀搀眀漀爀欀椀渀最 吀漀漀氀猀 ⴀ 㔀 ഊ ਀䠀攀爀琀栀愀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Mira (Tanya Guptill)" ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Basketry Group ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  ㄀ ㄀㈀㨀㌀㠀㨀㌀㄀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀眀愀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 漀渀氀椀渀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀ഊgroup for historic/SCA basketry, that can be found at ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀⼀最爀漀甀瀀⼀匀䌀䄀戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 ⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀ഊa lot of good recent discussion regarding documentation and ਀洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀昀 戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 椀猀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀愀礀ഊwant to check it out. ਀ഊMira Silverlock ਀䄀渀 吀椀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:39:55 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀愀猀栀Ⰰ  䨀漀栀渀 䨀漀猀攀瀀栀∀ 㰀樀挀愀猀栀 愀琀 椀渀搀椀愀渀愀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [SCA-AS] basket weaving ਀吀漀㨀 䄀爀琀猀 愀渀搀 匀挀椀攀渀挀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀愀爀琀猀猀挀椀攀渀挀攀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀最愀氀氀漀眀最氀愀猀猀⸀漀爀最㸀Ⰰഊ "Merritt, Cheryl" ਀ഊDear Allessandra, ਀ഊ<<< (...what difference is there) between what we are doing now and historically? ਀䄀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 琀漀 琀椀洀攀猀⼀氀漀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀㼀 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀 漀甀爀 愀琀琀攀洀瀀琀猀 琀漀 爀攀瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀 愀 ഊbasket with physical accuracy, and the actual relationships involved in ਀瀀爀漀搀甀挀椀渀最 愀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 椀渀 愀 最椀瘀攀渀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 猀漀挀椀攀琀礀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 攀砀挀攀爀瀀琀猀 ഊfrom an encyclopedia entry I wrote on basketry for the _Encyclopedia of ਀䄀洀攀爀椀挀愀渀 䘀漀氀欀氀椀昀攀㨀开ഊ ਀∀䈀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀猀 愀爀攀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 挀甀氀琀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀猀猀椀洀椀氀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 ഊstyles and materials is frequent. What tends to make basketry ਀琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀 搀椀猀琀椀渀挀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀渀渀漀瘀愀琀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 椀猀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 爀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 ഊin the environment in which a community lives/lived. Competence in ਀戀愀猀欀攀琀爀礀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 洀攀愀渀琀 欀渀漀眀氀攀搀最攀 漀昀 栀漀眀 琀漀 猀攀氀攀挀琀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀 ഊmaterials, prepare and store the plant fibers, and work them into ਀爀攀挀漀最渀椀稀愀戀氀攀 昀漀爀洀猀⸀ 䄀猀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀 栀愀搀 挀漀渀渀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 ഊsacred, and their role in sacred stories reflected the role of the ਀戀愀猀欀攀琀 洀愀欀攀爀 椀渀 愀 猀漀挀椀攀琀礀⸀∀ഊ ਀∀䄀猀 愀渀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀 漀昀 栀漀眀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀砀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀琀攀爀愀挀琀椀漀渀 挀愀渀 戀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 一愀瘀愀樀漀 ഊ'jewel baskets.' For the Navajo, jewel baskets were present in the ਀愀挀琀椀漀渀猀 戀礀 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀攀 洀攀搀椀挀椀渀攀 眀愀礀猀 挀愀洀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 一愀瘀愀樀漀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 漀昀 ഊthe First World, the origins of the Navajo. 'Before the earth was ਀挀爀攀愀琀攀搀 愀猀 眀攀 欀渀漀眀 椀琀 渀漀眀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 樀攀眀攀氀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 ⴀ 漀渀攀 漀昀 眀栀椀琀攀 ഊshell, one of turquoise, one of jet, one of abalone, and two others. ਀圀栀攀渀 䘀椀爀猀琀 䴀愀渀 愀渀搀 䘀椀爀猀琀 圀漀洀愀渀 眀攀爀攀 挀爀攀愀琀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 琀栀攀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀 ഊceremonial basket came after these baskets. The ceremonial basket is ਀愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 樀攀眀攀氀 戀愀猀欀攀琀猀 挀漀洀戀椀渀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 漀渀攀⸀✀ 匀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 猀甀洀愀挀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 ഊthe basket is blessed before removing strips; the materials must be ਀猀琀漀爀攀搀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀㬀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 洀愀欀攀爀 洀甀猀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀 愀琀琀椀琀甀搀攀 眀栀椀氀攀 ഊweaving, as the artifact becomes part of its creator as well as a ਀挀栀愀渀渀攀氀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 挀爀攀愀琀椀瘀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀攀猀 ⴀⴀ 琀栀攀 琀礀瀀椀挀愀氀 搀攀猀椀最渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀爀漀欀攀渀 ഊring allows the artist a clear path out of that process. As part of the ਀爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 猀栀漀眀渀 搀甀爀椀渀最 甀猀攀 愀渀搀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 愀昀琀攀爀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 ഊrotate the basket, as this disturbs thoughts and causes memory loss. ਀䄀氀琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 猀甀挀栀 愀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 椀猀 猀愀椀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 ✀瀀攀爀猀漀渀栀漀漀搀⸀✀∀ഊ ਀吀栀攀猀攀 琀眀漀 爀攀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 洀椀最栀琀 栀攀氀瀀㨀ഊ ਀䰀愀眀Ⰰ 刀愀挀栀攀氀 一愀猀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䌀礀渀琀栀椀愀 圀⸀ 吀愀礀氀漀爀⸀ 䄀瀀瀀愀氀愀挀栀椀愀渀 圀栀椀琀攀 伀愀欀 ഊBasketmaking: Handing Down the Basket. Knoxville: University of ਀吀攀渀渀攀猀猀攀攀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㄀⸀ഊ ਀匀椀洀瀀猀漀渀Ⰰ 䜀攀漀爀最椀愀渀愀 䬀攀渀渀攀搀礀⸀ 一愀瘀愀樀漀 䌀攀爀攀洀漀渀椀愀氀 䈀愀猀欀攀琀猀㨀 匀愀挀爀攀搀 匀礀洀戀漀氀猀Ⰰ ഊSacred Space. Summertown, TN: Native Voices, 2003. ਀ഊ-- johannes v.n. ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ戀愀猀欀攀琀眀攀愀瘀椀渀最ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 ㄀  漀昀 ㄀ ഊ ਊ