merchants-msg - 9/4/04 Directory and review of SCA merchants. NOTE: See also the files: merchanting-msg, merch-books-msg, p-prices-msg, occupations-msg, commerce-msg, guilds-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ From: Lynn Meyer Date: 16-Nov-89 10:46pm Subject: jewelry source Someone a while ago asked for sources of jewelry, Celtic I think. I finally remembered to bring in the catalog of one such source: Medieval Miscellanea 6530 Spring Valley Drive Alexandria, VA 22312 (703) 354-7711 In addition to all sorts of period jewelry reproductions, they sell period patterns (T-tunics through Elizabethan) with LOTS of documentation of variations, T-shirts (e.g. "Hastings 1066: Not Enough Saxon Violence"), "Cheap Mail" (fabric printed to look like chain mail) -- everything from pewter buttons to custom pavilions. The 40-page catalog is $1.50. I have no connection with them other than as a customer and as a visitor to their booth at Pennsic, where I found them friendly and helpful. Halima ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Halima de la Luz Lynn Meyer Abeyance of the Westermark 1393 Woodland, Menlo Park, CA 94025 Principality of the Mists (415) 325-1020 home, (408) 562-4217 x 4339 work Kingdom of the West From: PROSSER at ecs.umass.edu Date: 17 Nov 89 22:20:00 GMT Greetings, all, To the gentle who , some weeks back, requested plans for building his own Celtic harp: I too am preparing to build my own harp. I've looked around for nearly two years now and all of the harps that meet my needs (floor harp, 36 strings) start at $1700, which is about $1500 more than I can afford. I finally found a good source for plans and hardware (levers, bridge pins, etc.). It is: Robinson's Harp Shop 33908 Mount Laguna Dr. PO Box 161 Mount Laguna,CA 92048 (619) 473-8556 These people used to make harps, but have switched to selling just the makings. I plan to make my harp (their "Tara" model, based on a turn-of-the-century Irish harp) this January with my father's help. I'll let you know how it turns out. Good luck! Taliesin from Bergental PS. you might want to check out a few back issues of The Folk Harp Journal; They're available either from other harpers or Robinson's. From: Ioseph of Locksley Herewith some information on Celtic Harps from my ms (unpublished) "Locksley's E-Z Irish Harp Method (revised ed.) Joe Bethancourt SCA: Ioseph of Locksley White Tree Productions OL, OP, &c PO Box 35190 the Whyte Bard Phoenix AZ 85069 * WHERE TO BUY HARPS: Instrument Makers: Tucson Folk Shop Ogham Harps Leo Folk Harps Ballygriffin, Kenmare 415 N 4th Ave Co. Kerry, Eire Tucson, AZ Boulder Early Music Shop Walton's Galleries 2010 Fourteenth St 2,3,4 & 5 N Fredrick St Boulder. CO Dublin 1, Eire 80302 Caswell Harps Triplett Harps Box 1339 2220 Suburban Rd Suite B Forestville, CA San Luis Obispo, CA 95436 93401 Witcher Harps Dragonwhispers Box 1033 Box 211 Houlton, ME Mt. Laguna, CA 04730 92048 Dusty Strings John Yule 3406 Fremont Ave No. Camethy Cottage Seattle, WA Silverburn, Penicuik 98103 Midlothian EH26 9LQ Scotland Antique Sound Workshop Ltd Aoyama Harp 70 Lakewood Drive 282 Stepstone Hill Plymouth, MA Guilford, CT 02360-1921 06437 Salvi Daphne Hallelujah Harps 168 N Ogden Ave 1473 Acequia Barrada W. Chicago, IL Santa Fe, New Mex. 60607 87501 Heartland Strings Hummingbird Instruments 2692 Boston Rd 212 Wayne NW Woodville, WI Albuquerque. NM 54028 87114 Nial Imbusch Magical Strings 13 Woodlawn Dr Box 4086 Dooradoyle Seattle, WA Limerick, Eire 98104 Markwood Clive Morley 1250 NE 5th St Goodfellows Farm Bend, OR Filkins Nr Lechlade 97701 Gloucestershire GR7 3JG England James Rydecki Sandpiper Folk Harps Box 1093 Box 29218 Meadow Vista. CA San Diego, CA 95722 92129 Two Sisters Woodsong Box 5703 1840 Acacia Dr Athens, OH Box 3955 45701 Estes Park, CO 80517 Wold Song Box AD Panorama City. CA 91412-1030 WHERE TO BUY HARP CASES: Many of the listed manufacturers and retail oulets offer cases. The best cases available, however, are padded "gig-bag" affairs of nylon Cordura from: INSTRUMENT CLOTHIERS the Tucson Folk Shop also 6326 Ranier Ave South offers a nice case, as does Seattle, WA Lark In The Morning. See above 98118 and below for adresses. WHERE TO BUY HARPS: Retail outlets: Lark In The Morning Folkcraft PO Box 1176 Box 807 Mendocino, CA Winstead. CT 95460 06098 Folk Mote Music Grenadier Music 1034 Santa Barbara St Box 1128 Santa Barbara, CA Seneca. SC 93101 29678 Harp And Dragon In The Tradition 25 Madison St Box 223 Cortland, NY Deer Isle, ME 13045 04627 Loveland Harps Lyon & Healey Box 1101 168 N Ogden Ave Loveland, CO Chicago, IL 80539 60607 Pantile Press Robinson's Harp Shop 2525 Eastside Ln Box 161 Houston, TX Mt Laguna. CA 77019 92048 Paradise Music Sue Richards 556 Paradise Ln 612 E Linfield Dr Edmunds. WA Rockville. MD 98020 20852 Sylvia Woods Harp Center The better Irish and Scots Box 29521 import shops sometimes Los Angeles. CA have harps available. 90029 About Harps: FOLK HARPS Gildas Jaffrennou; Model and Allied Publications Ltd. 1973 (how to build them yourself!) THE IRISH AND HIGHLAND HARPS R. B. Armstrong; Edinburgh, 1904 Facsimile edition: Praeger 1969 LCCCN: 74-96769 (sell your first-born child for this book!) "How To Buy A Harp" FRETS (period.) June 1989 (Vol. 11 No. 6) 20085 Stevens Creek Cupertino, CA 95014 ANNALS OF THE IRISH HARPERS C. Fox; Dutton AN HISTORICAL ENQUIRY - HARP IN THE HIGHLANDS OF SCOTLAND Gunn; Constable HISTORY OF THE HARP J. Thomas; Hutchings & Rosner THE WELSH HARPER J. Parry; D'Almaie & Co. The Folk Harp Journal (Periodical) ISFHC 4718 Maychelle Dr Anaheim, CA 92807-3040 (714) 998-5717 * end * From: Ioseph of Locksley To: All Date: 29-Dec-89 03:56pm Subject: music May I reccommend: Devine Celtic Sounds PO Box 5983 Glendale AZ 85312-5983 USA Write for their catalog! VERY good! --- * Origin: (Opus 1:114/29) From: Rolfe Von_Duerer To: Ioseph of Locksley Date: 23-Jan-90 12:59pm Subject: Armorers Here is another armory for your list. Black Sword Armory Joe Latta RR4, Box 327F Gainesville Fl, 32608 (904) 495-9967 Catalogs available. --- * Origin: MOBS_Opus_Humor_South~Forward, Upward, Onward, Together! (Opus 1:135/47) From: Ioseph of Locksley To: All Date: 24-Feb-90 12:25pm Subject: Sources I have been asked a lot about skin heads for bodhrans and banjos. Here's where to get 'em cheap: Mid-East Mfg. Inc. 808 E New Haven Ave Melbourne, FL 32901 (407) 724-1477) Goatskin banjo heads are about $10.00 each! They also carry a NICE line of adjustable head bodhrans (Irish drums). I bought one with a rosewood body that is just delightful! Price is around $75.00, which is about half of the imported irish made ones..... --- * Origin: (Opus 1:114/29) From: Ioseph of Locksley To: All Date: 23-Feb-90 05:59pm Subject: More Arms/Armour makers Vorhut-Fahnlein Arms 4962 Providence Rd San Diego, CA 92117 (619) 272-2050 VERY GOOD catalog, good, solid hand-worked items, including full suits of whatever period of armour you desire. HIGHLY reccommended! Rotblatt Knives (No adress given) (213) 477-1585 This is some of the most beautiful stuff I've seen yet. Caravan Traders C/O Robert Langford 225 Summit Memphis, TN 38104 (901) 274-2406 Mostly imported stuff of varying quality. Bahadur Design Duke Sir Torgul Steingrimsson c/o Pat Conlin [address given is out-of-date. He may be in Brenan, WA now -ed] Gentles, I cannot say enough good things about this work! Would you believe a FULL REPLICA Sutton Hoo helmet? BOILED LEATHER helmets? INCREDIBLE!!!!! Check this one out for buckles, jewelry, etc, too! --- * Origin: (Opus 1:114/29) From: aluko at portia.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Goldschmidt) Date: 14 Feb 90 18:55:54 GMT Organization: Stanford University Decent wax for sealing scrolls is reportedly available from Patrick and Co. 560 Market Street San Francisco, CA 415-392-2640 The product is Dennison's (No. 2?) Express Red Sealing Wax, and costs US$18/lb (about SKr280/kg). mka: STephen Goldschmidt aka: Iulstan Sigewealding (was: Juls Siwaldsen) From: Ysabeau des Champs d'Houx To: All Date: 22-Sep-89 09:20am Subject: new (sort of) source. I just got a catalog from these people yesterday, and they have lots of good Celtic music and dance books (yes, even some Elizabethan recorder music!). Think I'll order something. The Celtic Trader PO Box 35495, Charlotte, NC 28235 (800) 822-2420 or (704) 332-CELT. From: Ioseph of Locksley To: Rimm Stoneforge Date: 24-Mar-90 01:34am Subject: Re: Swordsmith extrodinaire... RS>Anyone out there know about a master smith of swords by the name RS>Daniel Watson of Angel Sword fame? If so, and you know how to RS>contact him, please leave me info. I apprenticed under him and RS>wish to obtain some of his merchandise. Master Smith Daniel Watson Angel Sword Number One Presidio Wimberly, TX 78676 (512) 847-2531 --- * Origin: (Opus 1:114/29) From: palmer at tallis.enet.dec.com (Colonel Mode) Date: 17 Apr 90 20:18:09 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation After mangling my crumhorn kit, I called the Early Music Workshop. Although they would rather be drawn and quartered than assemble a kit for someone, (says something about the kits, doesn't it?) they were happy to take back the kit, plus retribution for damaged parts, and give me a real crumhorn for the difference in price. I'm very pleased with my new crumhorn. :-) The Early Music Workshop 59-65 Boylston Street Brookline, MA 02146 (617) 277-8690 ***** Chris Palmer palmer at tallis.enet.dec.com phone (508)486-6667 dtn 226-6667 From: ddfr at tank.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) Date: 22 Apr 90 18:58:34 GMT Organization:rly Period. University of Chicago Someone asked the address of "Early Period." It is: c/o David and Rebecca Wendelken, P.O. Box 631, Rome, GA 30161 I highly recommend it. Someone also asked about the revival of "The Hammer." It is being edited b y Marc Rengarth (Mark D. Chapman). Subscriptions cost $11/year (four issues) Mark Chapman, Black Horse Manor, 10503 Harmony Hill Rd., Marengo, IL 60152 From: Simon To: Dior Aligrante Date: 21-May-90 10:31am Subject: Re: Weapons and Armor > DA: I would deeply appreciate if one of you could post a list of > DA: armorers' addresses. North Star Armory - Master Peter of the Golden Isles Max Engel 1441 Funston Drive Santa Rosa, CA 95407 Joe Latta Black Sword Armory RR4, Box 327F Gainesville Fl, 32608 (904) 495-9967 Catalogs available. Vorhut-Fahnlein Arms 4962 Providence Rd San Diego, CA 92117 (619) 272-2050 Caravan Traders C/O Robert Langford 225 Summit Memphis, TN 38104 (901) 274-2406 Bahadur Design Duke Sir Torgul Steingrimsson c/o Pat Conlin [address given is out-of-date. He may be in Brenan, WA now -ed] MacKenzie-Smith - Master Robert Kinslayer Robert MacKenzie 12116 Highland Drive P.O. Box 3315 Truckee, CA 95734 Conner Mac Cinneide at: Red Dragon Armoury 2522 Baxter Dr. Austin, TX 78745-4345 Renaissance Trends - Howard & Wanda Noble P.O. Box 58734 Tucson, AZ 85732 Hold Tyte Armory - Sir Robert de Spencer, OL 2359 Cavalier Salt Lake City, UT 84121 Thornbird Arms - Master Brion Thornbird Brian Price, Luke Apker, Clark Acton 21626 Lassen Chatsworth, CA 91311 818-341-8227 Fax: 818-709-1869 Kirby Wise-Fraser (Master Zoltan Kovacs) P.O. Box 531 Bouse, AZ 85325 John M. Craft III Lockett Springs Ranch PO Box 682 Williams, AZ 86046 (602) 638-2190 Medieval Customs 2401 W Orangewood Ave #E Phoenix, AZ 85021 Jeff Krauss (602) 995-4115 Museum Replicas Ltd (Atlanta Cutlery Corporation) 2143 Gees Mill Rd Box 840 Conyers, GA 30207 1-800-241-3664 PROSE & STEEL 11010 41st Dr NE Marysville, WA 98270 659-0502 Warriors and Weapons, 7 Wickens Walk, St. Anns, Nottingham NG3 3NH, England. Raven Armoury, Belmont House, Newport, Essex CB11 3RF, England. Bailiff Forge, Unit 53 Colne Valley Workshops, Linthwaite, Huddersfield, W.Yorkshire HD7 5QG. Anybody got more? I'm building lists.... From: Stephen Greyhawkes To: Dior Aligrante Date: 30-May-90 12:00am Subject: Re: Armour & Weapons The current address for Blacksword Armory is: Blacksword Armory % Joe Latta RR4 Box 327F Gainesville, FL 32608 (904)495-9967 From: crf at PINE.CIRCA.UFL.EDU (FEINSTEIN) Date: 5 Jun 90 00:59:00 GMT Greetings! Someone requested the Folkwear catalog address, but I've lost track of whom. So, I'm re-posting it. Mail $2.00 to: Folkwear Customer Service Dept., the Taunton Press, Box 0922, Newton, CT, 06470-0922. In Service, Cher de Bellevue INTERNET: CRF at PINE.CIRCA.UFL.EDU BITNET: CRF at UFPINE From: rml3362 at venus.tamu.edu (LITCHFIELD, R. MICHAEL) Date: 30 May 90 01:55:27 GMT Organization: TAMU Went to steppes warlord this weekend, had a marvelous time and while I was there picked up the addresses for some of the armorers present Red Dragon Armoury P.O. Box 142054 Austin, TX 787714 (512) 836-9150 Good Servicable armour, fairly inexpensive. Oliver de Leon d'Oro 2707 Stonehaven cl Irving, Tx 75038 (214) 256-3064 Only saw a suit of lorica, looked pretty good, no idea about prices. Highland Anvil 907 Aleto Arlington Tx. 76010 Absolutely the most gorgeous armour I have ever seen. Kinda expensive but more than worth it. -Michael Michael Alyn Graehme Michael Litchfield RML3362 at rigel.tamu.edu From: ddfr at tank.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) Date: 15 Jun 90 03:47:24 GMT Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations Iosef asks about sources for lute strings. Since the question may be of more general interest, I thought I would post the following: Mistress Johanna van Dendermonde says that the best price for ordinary gut and nylon strings is Donna CurryUs Music, 1780 Fort Union Dr., Santa Fe, NM 87501, (505) 989-9350; for fancier strings (roped gut or copper wound), try Olav Chris Henriksen, Boston Catlines, 34 Newbury St., Somerville MA 02144, (617) 776-8688. If you want to order from France, she can give you two more adresses. David Friedman (Cariadoc) From: Atalaya Lasanadora To: Danny Harris Date: 04-Jul-90 06:11am Subject: Recorder Music * Replying to a message originally to Ioseph Of Locksley DH "Could you tell me where I could order some tapes with DH "recorder music on them. I am also interested in other DH "period music. DH "Danny DH "--- RemoteAccess 0.03 DH " * Origin: zounds do I perceive a dragon " ya all" DH "(1:128/50) Milord, Give "Andys Front Hall" a try, I think you'll be greatly satisfied! They have a wealth of Period & Folk music and even many hard to find items. Their address is: P.O. Box 307, Voorheesville, NY 12186. Their information line is: 1-518-765-4193 & their order line is 1-800-759-1775 ext 8. They also carry books, instruments, music & songbooks, & off-beat items. Good luck......Atalaya * Origin: Mail room for the Shire of Gleann Dubh (Node 1) (1:363/75) From: Ioseph of Locksley To: All 01-Jul-90 04:48pm Subject: Stuff Wanted to let everyone know about a source for some things of SCA interest: The US CAVALRY STORE, 2855 Centennial Ave, Radcliff, KY, 40160-9000 carry replica US Cavalry BOOTS (hightop boots!) for $229.95....along with spurs, both period Indian Wars (with rowels) and circa 1914 US Army (rowel-less)....their catalog is $3.00 and well worth it. They also carry McClellan saddles, for those of you that ride. --- * Origin: (Opus 1:114/29) From: EPSTEIN%KSUVM.BITNET at MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Emily Epstein) Date: 9 Jul 90 17:03:00 GMT Organization: Society for Creative Anachronism Newsgroups: rec.org.sca >Alix Pont de Fer (did I get that right?) asked about sources for mediaeval >fruits and vegetables. Care to publish these sources to the net? (I just >weeded my garden and now I can't do a thing with it; please send >suggestions for things I can plant next year.) I'm working on a cookery research/landscaping project. I'm not trying to create a medieval garden, but to provide myself with a supply of hard-to-find or expensive cookery ingredients while renovating a scuzzy-looking yard. I identified plants I wanted to try by going through the indexes and glossaries of several cookbooks, and found more when I started researching those. One very nice thing: Some medieval herbs and vegetables are both perennial and ornamental! I plan to write some of this up for _The_Rolling_Scone_ (Calontir Cooks' Guild newsletter) or TI. I got started a little late in the year, and enthusiasm and research are only partially adequate substitutes for experience and expertise, so some plants haven't done very well. I haven't determined whether it's poor timing and/or luck on my part, or whether they require a less murderous climate than Calontir affords. Perhaps both. I'll try them again next year. Along with names, addresses and catalog cost, I've listed the plants that caught my attention. Many of these would be of interest to brewers & vintners, perfumers, herbalists, and dyers as well as cooks. These companies offer a lot more than I've listed here. Other companies offer things like red carrots (I haven't found purple ones yet, alas!), poppies for seed and historical roses. What you choose to grow depends on your interest and inclination, and the climate, soil and space you have available. Here are the three best sources I've found: J.L. Hudson Seedman, P.O.Box 1058 Redwood City, CA 94064. Very informative catalog costs $1.00. Specializes in seed (no plants) for rare and hard to find plants. Catalog is arranged by botanical name. Offers: Alexanders, bedstraw, bilberry, broom, calamint (Satureja calamintha, not Calamintha officinalis), clary sage, elecampane, good king Henry, Italian edible gourd (I haven't checked this one out yet, but I think it's what was eaten instead of the yellow-flowered zucchini, which is an American native), marshmallow, mugwort, negelromano (Fennel flower), skirret, smallage, weld, woad ... (et al.) Nichols Garden Nursery, 1190 N. Pacific Hwy., Albany, OR 97321 Free catalog is very informative. Specializes in herbs and rare seeds, mostly vegetables. Carries seeds, plants, bulbs, dried herbs, essential oils, potpourri and brewing and winemaking supplies. Offers: Alexanders, alkanet, broccoli raab, clary sage, costmary, elecampane, good King Henry, mugwort, orach, orris, scorzonera and skirret. Richters, Box 26, Goodwood, Ontario, LOC1A0, Canada Informative catalog costs $2.50 for 1 year subscription. Specializes in seeds, plants, bulbs and dried herbs for the serious herbalist. Also carries some vegetables and ornamentals. Offers: Alexanders, alkanet, avens (only source I've found), bedstraw, broom, clove pinks, clary sage, costmary, elecampane, dittany of Crete, good King Henry, indigo, madder (only source I've found) mugwort, orach, orris, southernwood, and scorzonera. This company doesn't carry as many medieval plants as the others, but the prices are great, and it's climatically close to Maine, where the lady who made the inquiry I'm responding to resides: Le Jardin du Gourmet, P.O.Box 75, St. Johnsbury Center, BT 05863 Uninformative catalog costs $.50. Specializes in shallots and european (esp. French) vegetables, with a pretty good selection of herbs and a few flowers. Carries seeds, plants, bulbs and supplies. Offers: mugwort, scorzonera, southernwood, woad. MISC. NOTES 1) The abovementioned catalogs vary in their informational content. Hudson's is the strongest in historical background. Richter's is very strong in practical uses of plants (and most likely to mention potential toxicity). Nichols is somewhere in between. All three give some growing information. The Jardin du Gourmet catalog is a stock list and order blank. Plants arrive with minimal information, seeds and bulbs with none. If you need information on the plants' requirements, you'll have to find it elsewhere. 2) I've done a lot of price comparisons. Nichols offers the best price on saffron crocus I've seen anywhere. Richter's is pretty high on most items. Le Jardin du Gourmet has very low prices on what it offers, and has $.25 sample packets of seed for gardeners who want to experiment or have limited space. (It also has the best price on bay laurel I've seen) 3) BEWARE OF SHIPPING COSTS. It's a good idea to figure this in when comparing costs in initial planning to avoid nasty surprises. Nichols charges a flat $1.00 fee per order in the continental U.S. Richter's fees will take your breath away. While they do the best packing for shipment I've ever seen, you'll pay for it. In addition, there's the hefty fee for shipment across national borders which you can expect from any company. (Please note: There are a number of plants and bulbs which can't be shipped outside of Canada). Hudson and Jardin have moderate shipping costs. 4) If you don't want substitutions in your order, tell them so. Also expect some cancellations due to crop failure. (This was evidently a bad year for smallage, elecampane and sweet cicely) If anyone on the Rialto has the name of a nursery or seed company they're particularly fond of, please post or send me its name and address. I'd also like to find other sources for madder, avens, negelromano and clove pinks. While my gardening experience is limited, if anything survives this wretched summer, I'm going to try saving seeds. If anyone has advice to offer, or would be interested in trading, please let me know. Thank you. =========================================== <=========> Alix Mont de fer |=======| (Emily Epstein) |* * * *| Shire of Spinning Winds =====/ (Manhattan, KS) / ||| epstein at ksuvm.ksu.edu | ||| /___ From: dp1g+ at andrew.cmu.edu (Demetri Patukas) Date: 10 Jul 90 17:00:26 GMT Organization: Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Greetings! Lamb Nurseries, E 101 Sharp Ave. Spokane, WA 99202 (509) 328-7956 has the following things to offer (sorry if some of this isn't period, I'm trying, really!) Milfoil (yarrow), Aconitum (monkshood), alchemilla (lady's mantle), doronicum (leopard-bane), filipendula (meadow sweet), helleborus (hellebore), hypericum (st.john's wort), leontopodium (edelweiss), polemonium (jacob's ladder), polygonatum (true solomon's seal), saponaria (soapwort), and a list of the usual herbs plus Sweet Woodruff, Applemint, Sweetmary (Bible Leaf) and Bay Laurel. There are plenty of other plants in the catalogue that I'm not familiar with (my grandmother has grown all of the above in Maine, so I know of them) and although there are no pictures, the descriptions are fair. Most of the plants have several varieties, described also. Their postage rates go like this: $0-20, $5.00, $20-30, 25% of order, 30-60, 20% of order, 60+ 15% of order. Their prices seem average, orders are well wrapped, and the people were nice to deal with (I ordered Parma Violets from them...mmmMMMmmmm). The deal a lot with rock garden plants and hardy perennials. Love, madder, and mead Amabel Allegra, BMDL Katherine Albert, Pittsburgh kea at redneck.pc.cs.cmu.edu From: ddfr at midway.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) Date: 12 Jul 90 00:38:07 GMT Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations On the subject of period plants: Roses of Today and Yesterday (802 Brown's Valley Road, Watsonville, CA 95076-0398) has a number of period roses. Also, I have in article in the Miscellany that lists nurseries selling period fruit trees. Since fruit trees are reproduced largely by grafting, a period fruit tree you buy today is, in effect, a branch of a tree that was alive in period. One final note. Summer Rambo apples are a period variety that is frequently available in the area around Pennsic at the time of Pennsic. David Friedman (Cariadoc) From: Daveed Of_granada To: Sionnaichan am Diolaimadh Date: 17-Jul-90 09:55pm Subject: Drums I suggest contacting Unicorn Belly Dance Supplies, 3361 S. Corona, Englewood, CO 80110, (303) 762-0124, for a catalog. They carry (among LOTS of other stuff) both Mid-East Manufacturing's fiber-skin drums and Handland's natural-skin drums. Another good source is Susan Winget (aka Lady Susan the Midwife), whose business address is "Susan's Pottery and Drums", 1625 Cornell SE, Albuquerque, NM 87106; she makes excellent natural (goatskin rawhide) headed drums of a fine ceramic quality. --- * Origin: (Opus 1:114/29) * Original: FROM.....Tom Achtenberg (114/16) * Original: TO.......Joe Bethancourt (114/29) * Forwarded by.......OPUS 114/29 Elderly Instruments 1100 N. Washington P.O. Box 14210 Lansing, Michigan 48901 (517)372-7890 Has recorder books and records along with just about every other kind of accoustic music. Very reputable for mail order too!! * Origin: Musicians Den (1:114/16.0) From: Ciorstan Macamhlaidh To: Joe Bethancourt Date: 04-Aug-90 12:10pm Subject: Re: Recorder Music Elderly Instrments and Music also has a largeish stock of other types of instruments of note to the Scaling-- and a largeish number of GOOD used instruments for those of acquisition-mind limited by budget. I've seen their catalogs off and on for the last ten-twelve years or so. ciorstan From: DRS%UNCVX1.BITNET at MITVMA.MIT.EDU ("Dennis R. Sherman") Date: 6 Sep 90 12:47:00 GMT Organization: Society for Creative Anachronism Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Someone just asked for sources for music and instruments. In addition to your local music library, the following companies have either instruments or music, or both, available. Von Huene Workshop The Early Music Shop of New England 65 Boylston St. Brookline, MA 02146 617-277-8690 Carries complete line of Early Music Shop of London kits, large line of pre-built instruments available, very large selection of sheet music, some in facsimile. I've been very pleased with their service and would recommend them as a good place to shop. Antique Sound Workshop, Ltd. 70 Lakewood Drive Plymouth, MA 02360-1921 These folks don't carry kits, but do have a large line of instruments, although they tend to be the most expensive source I know of. I have some friends that have ordered several harps through ASW, and speak very highly of the service they got. Their catalog and quarterly updates are worth getting just for the discussions of different topics of importance to the early musician. St. Croix Kits 423 South Main Stillwater, MN 55082 800-432-KITS 612-439-9120 Lots of kits, for just about everything - harps in several sizes, hammered dulcimer, mountain dulcimer, cornamuse, cortholt, krummhorn, psaltery, on and on. I've haven't yet ordered from these folks, but the catalog looks good, and the prices are about the lowest I've seen. Kelischek Workshop Rt. 1 Brasstown, NC 28902 (704)837-5833 They carry a large line of instruments, of their own design as well as others. I've heard that some of their designs are somewhat questionable, but don't know that of my own experience - I've never dealt with any of their instruments. Many of their prices on student to medium grade instruments are the best I've seen. They have a very large selection of sheet music in the catalog, and so far everything I've ordered has been in stock and delivered within a week. I'm pleased with their service. For those interested, they also carry a line of software for desktop music publishing. Robyyan Torr d'Elandris Dennis R. Sherman Kapellenberg, Windmaster's Hill Chapel Hill, NC Atlantia drs at uncvx1.bitnet From: timsmith at dtoa1.dt.navy.mil (Smith) Date: 16 Jan 91 15:39:56 GMT Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD Poklon k Rialto ot Timofeya Ivanovitcha! (I hope I got it right this time. Seems centuries since I lived in my native land :-) For those looking for reasonable prices on long pull-on boots, I suggest contacting Globe Militaria Box 2019 Keene, N.H. 03431-2036 (603)352-1961 Due to recent events in Germany, there is a large amount of DDR Army surplus available. Mid-calf length combat "jackboots" are $45, and the knee-high riding boots are $60. Since my old boots have died in the middle of the cold & flu season, I'm ordering a new pair today. Do svedanya, Timofei Ivanovitch --- Tim Smith --- timsmith at dtoa1.dt.navy.mil ---- (301)227-1611 --- --- Code 1522, David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD 20084 --- TO: Caitlin niConair FROM: Etaoin SUBJECT: woad You were asking about a supplier for woad. Richters, of Goodwood Ontario, is a good supplier for many unusual seeds. They supply woad seeds (as well as weld, dyers broom, alkanet, coreopsis, madder and a number of other dye plants). Woad seeds are inexpensive ($2.50 per package, 1988 prices) and they will ship to Canada or USA. They accept VISA and Mastercard and you can phone or fax your order to them. Their catelogue is about $2.00 and is very interesting. They can be reached at: (416) 640-6677 between 8:30 am and 5:00 pm, Mon to Sat (phone) or fax to (416)640-6641 24 hours a day with credit card orders. Their address is Richters, Goodwood, Ontario Canada, L0C 1A0. I've ordered from them several times, they seem like a good supplier. * Origin: The Homestead * TORONTO, ONT * (416) 272-4067 * (1:259/415) From: FEENEYA at carleton.EDU (Jabberwocky) Date: 10 May 91 17:41:00 GMT Organization: The Internet Good gentle who was looking for enamelling supplies, but I deleted the message so I can't get to you directly: greetings! My favorite jewelry suppliers are: Newall in Chicago (don't hold that against them--they're very nice people) Rio Grande in Albequerque (nice people and excellent prices, also will do special orders). I don't have the address for Newall right at hand, but they do have an 800 number, so if you call 800 information (800)545-1212, you can get the number there, and ask for a catalog. They have a wonderful supply of lead-free enamels. Leaded _is_ period, but since we do recreate the _best_ of the medieval world, and lead poisoning doesn't count as the best, do get the lead free, which in my limited experience (two pieces) give results that look just like leaded. Rio Grande, (what a co-incidence, I got their catalog in the mail today, and it's sitting right here). Oddly enough, I can't find enamel in my first glance through or in the index, but they do have cloisonne wire. Their number is 800-533-3299, and they'll send you a catalog on request. Warning: have a drool basin nearby--they have some amazing tools, findings, etc. Faoiltigerna the Grim feeneya at carleton.edu From: jprod at sagepub.COM (Journals Production Department) Date: 19 Jul 91 15:59:29 GMT Organization: Sage Publications, Inc., Newbury Park, CA Several people have asked me to post the address for Pegasus Music. These people offer everything from legit songbooks to "Moonwolf's Still the King," from Silly Wizard to John Renbourn, from koto to balalaika to harp. Publications such as "A. Grump's Naughty Bits" and "Delayed Desserts" are also available. I have found them to be a little slow, but reliable and responsive. Pegasus Music P.O. Box 150471 Arlington, TX 76015-6471 They also turn up at Pennsic and Estrella. Other interesting sources of books: Rosamond's Reclaimed Treasures: Books for the Medieval Life P.O. Box 699 Los Lunas, NM 87031 Folump Enterprises 805 East Green #1 Urbana, IL 61801 And a commercial publisher who offers music and wonderful prints as well as books, and whom many of you have probably cheerfully shelled out a LOT of money to (I know I have): Cahill & Company A Division of Regnery Gateway, Inc. Federalsburg, MD 21632-0039 Patronize these wonderful people! Sister Kate -- Journals Production Department, Sage Publications, Inc. 2111 West Hillcrest Drive, Newbury Park, CA 91320 voice: (805) 499-0721 fax: (805) 499-0871 via Internet: jprod at sagepub.com From: alg at cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel) Date: 31 Jul 91 19:15:10 GMT Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles,alt.sewing,rec.org.sca A good source for costuming information is the SCA, Society of Creative Anachronism. The avowed purpose of the SCA is the study and recreation of the European Middle Ages, its crafts, sciences, arts, traditions, literature, etc. The SCA "period" is defined to be 600 AD to 1600 AD, concentrating on the Western European High Middle Ages. You can find SCA members in the newsgroup rec.org.sca. If you post there, be sure to mention your city and state so that those who respond can suggest local SCA groups and sources. I believe that SCA has several phamplets or publications specifically on costuming (aka "garb"). If you wish to contact the SCA national headquarters you can write to: The Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. Office of the Registry P.O. Box 360743 Milpitas, CA 95036-0743 There are two regular SCA postings, one posted by Wilson Heydt (whheydt at PacBell.COM) and the other written by Arval Benicoeur (joshua at paul.rutgers.edu or mittle at watson.ibm.com) and Siobhan Medhbh O'Roarke (smor at um.cc.umich.edu). (Can anyone provide pointers to other historical recreation groups?) Meanwhile, here are some other sources that you may wish to consider looking into. (thanks to Dave Uebele {ucbvax!ucscc | uunet | sun}!sco!daveu for a large chunk of this list). Fall Creek Suttlery Civil War era items and patterns P.O. Box 530 Freedom, CA 95019 (408) 728-1888 $2.00 Catalog La Pelleterie Coats and cloaks, pre 1840 P.O. Box 127 Highway 41 Arrow Rock, Missouri 65320 (816) 837-3261 $3.00 Catalog NE Shutsa Traders Cal/Mex era and horsegear P.O. Box 186 Haven, Kansas 67542 (316) 465-3359 $1.50 Catalog JAS Townsend & Son Hats, cloaks, clasps P.O. Box 415 Pierceton, IN 46562 (800) 338-1665 Campell's Designs $3.00 Catalog RD 1 Box 1444 Dept SNN Herndon, PA 17830 Note: in July 1991 Sew News the address is listed as: Campbell's Box 400 Gratz, PA 17030-0400 patterns from 1776-1945 Carolina Stitches in Time Period clothing Patterns Box 10933 Winston-Salem, N.C. 27108 (919) 764-0790 Amazon Vinegar & Pickling Works This is "The mailing list to be on" 2218 E. 11th St. Davenport, IA 52803 (319) 322-6800 $2.00 Catalog (309) 786-3504 Past Patterns P.O. Box 7587 Grand Rapids, Michigan 49510 (616) 245-9456 Mediaeval Miscellanea, (patterns) 7006 Raleigh Road Annandale, VA 22003 Folkwear The Taunton Press 63 South Main St, Box 5506 Newtown, CT 06470-5506 Only some of the original patterns have been reprinted, but Tauton is reprinting others regularly. Mostly Victorian and Early American patterns. G-Street Fabrics (patterns) 11854 Rockville Pike Rockville, Md 20852 (301) 231-8998 Fair Winds Pattern Co. Send $1 for brouchure. 819 N. June St. Hollywood, CA 90038. R.L.Shep. Box 668 Mendocino, CA 95460. 1990-91 catalog has 1000 items, $2.50/cataog. books, magazines and reprints. Books related to the costume and textile arts, including out of print and hard to find books. Shep has also reprinted a number of older clothing books, including a couple of books of patterns for Victorian and Edwardian clothing. Raiments 3345 East Miraloma Suite 134 Anaheim CA 92806 Patters from 1100-1950 representing 15 pattern companies. Catalog $5 (refundable with purchase) (Ad in Sew News Oct 1990) The Cabinet of Vintage Patterns 3522 Deerbrook Windsor Ontario N8R 2E9 Patterns 1905-1930, reproductions of women's and children's clothing. Catalog $4. (Ad Sew News Oct 1990) Old World Enterprises Dept 302 29036 Kepler Ct Cold Spring Minn 56320 19th century patterns, $2 for catalog. (Add in Sew News July 1991) Prairie Clothing Co 3732 Tanager Drive NE Cedar Rapids IA 52402 319-378-0125 Dave Uebele has provided a fairly complete list of sources for 1850-1900 clothing and heavy materials construction. This list is provided near the end of this posting. There are also a couple of books that you might find interesting. "Sewing and Collecting Vintage Fashions" by Eileen MacIntosh This should be available or orderable from your local sewing shop or bookstore. A good look at many aspects of Vintage clothing. Includes sections for sewers and timid sewers. Tries to cover both you want a certain look, what era might it be and you want a certain era, what sytles were in vogue. Also has a good chapter on "How accurate does this have to be?" There is also a good section in the back listing various resources, Groups, and references coded by period and what they supply. "The American Historical Supply Catalogue A Nineteenth-Century Sourcebook" By Alan Wellikoff I found this in a used bookstore, but it should still be in print. This covers a wide range of items. Not much on patterns, but if you are looking for items to round out a costume, it may be helpful. Iris Brooke: "A practical guide to the constuction of theatrical medieval garments" (or something like that) (Iris Brooke has written a number of historical costuming books). Some of these books are out of print. Most of them should be in a good university library. Some of them will be in the public library: Alcega, Juan de. Tailor's Pattern Book 1589. (reprint) Burnham, Dorothy. Cut My Cote. (diagrams ethnic clothing w/ metric dimensions) Hill, Margot Hamilton & Pater A. Buchnell. The Evolution of Fashion: Pattern & Cut from 1066-1930. Houston, Mary G. & Florence Hornblower.[love that name] Medieval Costumes in England and France. Holkefer, Katherine Strand. Patterns for Theatrical Costumes Edson, Doris & Lucy Barton. Period Patterns. Fernald, Mary. "Costume Design and Making" From an article on sewing costumes in Threads #30: Waugh, Norah: "The Cut of Women's Clothes 1600-1930" and "The Cut of Men's Clothes 1600-1900" (Theatre Arts Books) Concise descriptions and drawings of men's gaments from 1600 to 1900. Includes scaled patterns that can be enlarged. Hillhouse, Marion and Evelyn A Mansfield: Dress Design: Draping and Flat Pattern Making. Riverside Press 1948. Clear instructions on draping, with excellent drawings of bodice, skirt, sleeve, and neckline styles. Perfect for reproducing styles of the 1940's. Covey, Liz: The Costumer's Handbook. Prentice Hall 1980. A good basic source for the tecniques of theatrical cosumters. Arnold, Janet: Patterns of Fashion 1: Englishwomen's Dresses and Their Construction c. 1660-1860; Patterns of Fashion 2: Englishwomen's Dresses and their Construction c. 1860-1940. New York. Drama Book Publishers, 1972. Contains notes on construction techniques and fabrics. Very clear drawings show the inside of each garment. History of Costume from Ancient Egypt to 20th Century. Blanche Payne. c. 1965. New York. Harper & Row. Includes patterns drawn to scale. One tactic is to choose a garment in a book, make a transparency of the pattern in the book, and go buy a pattern as similar as possible. Then project the transparency on the wall and use it to adjust the bought pattern to the style of the garment in the book. Dover has a Pictorial Archive catalog and a Needlework catalog. The Needlework catalog includes several books that discuss Renaissance embroidery. The Pictorial Archive catalog has a FEW books that cover costumes. Typically these are books that contain pictures of people in costume. There are few (none?) books with actual costumes drafted. Dover Publications; 31 East 2nd St; Mineola, NY 11501. The whole costumer's catalog is probably available from: GCFCG (Greater Columbia Fantasy Costumers guild). P.O. Box 194 Mt. Airy, Md 21771 Be sure to check the list of sources and references in the regular alt.sewing and rec.crafts.textiles FAQ. A number are appropriate for costuming. --------------------------------------------------------- The following is from Dave Uebele or : Contacts from 3rd U.S. Artillery newsletter "The Cannon's Mouth", NCWA Sorry its sketchy, but this is what it included that seemed helpful. Abraham Lincoln Book Shop (312) 944-3085 Alabam Trust CSN & Marine 011-44-273-400-508 UK Reinactment Artillery Shop, The (601) 323-2606 Gear Equipment Artilleryman, The Magazine (617) 646-2010 Bean, LL Best Long Johns Border States Leatherworks (501) 361-2642 Saddles, harness Bounty Arts 011-44-8043-3900 Brass Lanterns Coonie's Inc (505) 393-0166 Black Powder Supplies Cumberland General Store (800) 334-4640 Fulks, Chuck & Anita (408) 728-1888 Fall Creek Sutlery Jarnigan, C & D (601) 287-4971 Large Sutlers Old Suttler John (607) 775-4434 Sutler Past Patterns (616) 245-9456 Period Patterns Paulson Brothers Ordnance (715) 263-2112 Ammo, Iron, Cartridges Prussian Press (614) 654-3630 Pamphlets/Periodicals Quartermaster Depot (516) 472-3505 ACW Boxes and Cr Quartermaster Shop (313) 987-4127 Uniforms ACW Regimental Quartermaster (215) 672-6891 Sights, etc Steele's Muzzleloading Supply (501) 778-4459 Powder Other places for misc items to round a historic costume. Old West Outfitters They mostly sell finished items, 7213 East First Avenue Might be good if looking for belts, spurs Scottsdale, Arizona 85251 or ideas. Lots of hats (expensive). (800) 447-5277 They seem pricey to me, no idea on quality Black powder/Muzzleloading supplies. These places focus on muzzleloading gun equipment, but do have sections for clothing, tents, personal items, patterns, and misc camp equipment. Big Catalogs, lots of interesting, stuff, very usefull if you want to do muzzle loading shooting or build/repair guns, but good collection of misc items to go along with the black powder shooting. Moutain State Muzzleloading Supplies (800) 445-1776 Dixie Gun Works Gunpowder Lane Union City, Tennessee 38261 (800) 238-6785 Here is alternate source to Tandy Leather for leather working supplies. I think their quality is better, and I have been quite impresssed with how quickly they proccess orders. They have a western bias (lots of saddles and cowboy type information). The Leather Factory Fort Worth Texas Several Nationwide Toll free numbers, By state: Arizona In AZ - (800) 432-7732 :Out of AZ - (800) 332-2203 Califoriana (800) 999-7371 Colorado (800) 525-8134 Iowa (800) 247-5566 Missouri (800) 888-1993 New Mexico (800) 327-6606 Pennsylvania (800) 233-7155 Tennessee (800) 251-7782 Texas (800) 433-3201 Utah (800) 448-9250 Washington (800) 822-8437 Another source is magazines devoted to different time periods. These come and go to fast to list, but even the most trendy touristy type historical magazine is likely to have adds in the back for different types of historical items, Its worth investigating, and if you find a a good resource, pass it back to this list. Also, check with local historical sites or reanactment groups. They probably have addition (and hopefully local to you) resources. From: alg at cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel) Date: 18 Nov 91 18:27:43 GMT Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 2) Are there any sources of historical costuming patterns supplies? Patterns and Supplies: Fall Creek Suttlery P.O. Box 530 Freedom, CA 95019 (408) 728-1888 - $2.00 catalog. Civil War era items and patterns. La Pelleterie P.O. Box 127 Highway 41 Arrow Rock, Missouri 65320 (816) 837-3261 - $3.00 catalog. Coats and cloaks, pre 1840. NE Shutsa Traders P.O. Box 186 Haven, Kansas 67542 (316) 465-3359 - $1.50 catalog. Cal/Mex era and horsegear. JAS Townsend & Son P.O. Box 415 Pierceton, IN 46562 (800) 338-1665 - Hats, cloaks, clasps. Campell's Designs Box 400 Gratz, PA 17030-0400 - $3.00 catalog. ($4.50 in spring 1991?) Patterns from 1776-1945 Carolina Stitches in Time Box 10933 Winston-Salem, N.C. 27108 (919) 764-0790 - Period clothing patterns. Amazon Vinegar & Pickling Works 2218 E. 11th St. Davenport, IA 52803-3760 (319) 322-6800 (800) 798-7979 - orders ONLY and only from the US (319) 322-4003 - fax - $2.00 general catalog, $5 for historical patterns catalog. This is "the mailing list to be on". Historical patterns selected from Folkwear, midiaeval Miscellanea, early western, victorian, hoop-gown era, Past Patterns, Attic Copies (1920's to 40's), Prairie Clothing, amish, kilts, ethnic and dance. Past Patterns P.O. Box 7587 Grand Rapids, Michigan 49510 (616) 245-9456 - $3.00 catalog. Good selection of early 20th century clothing. Mediaeval Miscellanea 7006 Raleigh Road Annandale, VA 22003 - What else? Midieaval patterns (think Robin Hood :-). Folkwear The Taunton Press 63 South Main St, Box 5506 Newtown, CT 06470-5506 - Only some of the original patterns have been reprinted, but Tauton is reprinting others regularly. Mostly Victorian and Early American patterns. G-Street Fabrics 11854 Rockville Pike Rockville, Md 20852 (301) 231-8998 Fair Winds Pattern Co. 819 N. June St. Hollywood, CA 90038. - Send $1 for small brouchure featuring six patterns. Very nice 1920's jazz dress, Princess Bride-style wedding gown, a couple of nice casual, day-wear 1920's dresses. One ho-hum 1940's dress. R.L.Shep. Box 668 Mendocino, CA 95460. - 1990-91 catalog has 1000 items. $2.50 cataog. Books, magazines and reprints. Books related to the costume and textile arts, including out of print and hard to find books. Shep has also reprinted a number of older clothing books, including a couple of books of patterns for Victorian and Edwardian clothing. Raiments 3345 East Miraloma Suite 134 Anaheim CA 92806 - Patterns from 1100-1950 representing 15 pattern companies. Catalog $5 (refundable with purchase). The Cabinet of Vintage Patterns 3522 Deerbrook Windsor Ontario N8R 2E9 - Canadian company featuring patterns from 1905 to 1930; reproductions of women's and children's clothing. Catalog $4. Some very nice 1910-20 tea dresses. Old World Enterprises Dept 302 29036 Kepler Ct Cold Spring Minn 56320 - 19th century patterns. $2 for catalog. Their listing says they specialize in 19th century garments. Their patterns aren't copies of existing garments, though, but originals based on the prevailing styles at the time. They offer multiple graded patterns in female sizes 8-10-12-14 and male sizes 38-40-42. Catalog $2. Prairie Clothing Co 3732 Tanager Drive NE Cedar Rapids IA 52402 (319) 378-0125 - $1 catalog. Lots of "Little House on the Prairie"-style clothing. More or less current clothing styles adapted for a combination prairie/Edwardian feel without tons of sewing details. Remember When Collection 361 N. Ohio Salina, KS 67401 - Send SASE for brochure. "Romantic" clothing. Current designs adapted to a Victorian feel. Dave Uebele ({ucbvax!ucscc |uunet | sun}!sco!daveu) has provided a fairly complete list of sources for 1850-1900 clothing and heavy materials construction. See his notes later in this article. Magazines: Vintage Fashions Hobby House Press Inc. 900 Frederick St. Cumberland, MD 21502 -- a bi-monthly magazine focusing on vintage apparel and instructions for their care and repair. One-year subscription $19.95, sample copy $2.95. Books: Some of these books are out of print. Most of them should be in a good university library. Some of them will be in the public library: Iris Brooke: "A practical guide to the constuction of theatrical medieval garments" (or something like that) (Iris Brooke has written a number of historical costuming books). Alcega, Juan de. Tailor's Pattern Book 1589. (reprint) Burnham, Dorothy. Cut My Cote. (diagrams of actual historical (and ethnic?) clothing in the Royal Ontario Museum. Diagrams are graphed and shown with metric dimensions.) Hill, Margot Hamilton & Pater A. Buchnell. The Evolution of Fashion: Pattern & Cut from 1066-1930. Houston, Mary G. & Florence Hornblower. Medieval Costumes in England and France. Holkefer, Katherine Strand. Patterns for Theatrical Costumes. Edson, Doris & Lucy Barton. Period Patterns. Fernald, Mary. "Costume Design and Making" From an article on sewing costumes in Threads #30: Waugh, Norah: "The Cut of Women's Clothes 1600-1930" and "The Cut of Men's Clothes 1600-1900" (Theatre Arts Books) Concise descriptions and drawings of men's gaments from 1600 to 1900. Includes scaled patterns that can be enlarged. Hillhouse, Marion and Evelyn A Mansfield: Dress Design: Draping and Flat Pattern Making. Riverside Press 1948. Clear instructions on draping, with excellent drawings of bodice, skirt, sleeve, and neckline styles. Perfect for reproducing styles of the 1940's. Covey, Liz: The Costumer's Handbook. Prentice Hall 1980. A good basic source for the tecniques of theatrical cosumters. Arnold, Janet: Patterns of Fashion 1: Englishwomen's Dresses and Their Construction c. 1660-1860; Patterns of Fashion 2: Englishwomen's Dresses and their Construction c. 1860-1940. New York. Drama Book Publishers, 1972. Contains notes on construction techniques and fabrics. Very clear drawings show the inside of each garment. History of Costume from Ancient Egypt to 20th Century. Blanche Payne. c.1965. New York. Harper & Row. Includes patterns drawn to scale. One tactic is to choose a garment in a book, make a transparency of the pattern in the book, and go buy a pattern as similar as possible. Then project the transparency on the wall and use it to adjust the bought pattern to the style of the garment in the book. Dover has a Pictorial Archive catalog and a Needlework catalog. The Needlework catalog includes several books that discuss Renaissance embroidery. The Pictorial Archive catalog has a FEW books that cover costumes. Typically these are books that contain pictures of people in costume. There are few (none?) books with actual costumes drafted. Dover Publications 31 East 2nd St Mineola, NY 11501. The whole costumer's catalog is probably available from: GCFCG (Greater Columbia Fantasy Costumers guild). P.O. Box 194 Mt. Airy, Md 21771 From: branwen at tony.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams) Date: 5 Dec 91 22:45:22 GMT Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA As many of you wrote to me asking for the catalog that I ordered CATCHPHRASE from, I'm posting the info here. The David Morgan catalog sells Australian hats, English walking trousers, Welsh shirts, jewelry in Pacific Northwest Indian and Celtic motifs, Welsh shawls, T-shirts, and belt buckles, tons of books, cassettes, videotapes, and travel guides. The address is: David Morgan 11812 Northcreek Parkway N., Suite 103 Bothell, WA 98011 Phone: 206-485-2132 Branwen ferch Emrys The Mists, the West -- Karen Williams branwen at flipper.ras.amdahl.com pigments Date: 4 Feb 92 From: cat at piggy.fgs.slb.COM ("Catherine M. Helm") Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Organization: The Internet An excellent source for all kinds of good stuff (raw gum arabic, raw gum ammoniac, pigments, vellum, inks, etc) is: Pendragon P.O. Box 327, Afton, MN 55001 (612)-436-2046 (This poster has no affliation with the above business) Pendragon, incidentally, is the only source I know of for gum ammoniac, since my Bay area supplier went out of business. Twcs Re: pigments Date: 6 Feb 92 From: amanda at visix.com (Amanda Walker) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Organization: Visix Software, Inc. I second the recommendation of Auldhaefen Associates. They are by far the most economical place I have found to buy period pigments, spices, and all sorts of other Nifty Stuff. They are non-profit, and act as a "materials broker." That is to say, they arrange to buy a bunch of something, repackage it into smaller, more convenient packages (after all, who needs 10 pounds of dragon's blood resin :)?), and resells it at just enough to cover their costs. They're also just real nice folks. Arwen ferch Morgan Ponte Alto, Atlantia Contacting John the Artificer (period pigments, etc.) Date: 4 Feb 92 From: Marion.Kee at a.nl.cs.cmu.EDU Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Organization: The Internet Greeting to the Rialto from Marian Greenleaf: [Master] John the Artificer, O.L., may be contacted as: John Rose 250 Emerson St. Pittsburgh, PA 15206 (412) 362-0421 You might want to put an "Attention: ordering pigments" line, or some such, on the envelope. Or just call him and find out what to send him. If you write for information, I recommend sending an SASE. John also is a source for woad seeds, information on ferret breeding, and a number of other interesting items both material and intellectual. He speaks barter, although cash has a lot of appeal. If you're really interested in learning something from him, let him know; he really likes teaching interested people, although he can be abrupt at times. --Marian Re: pigments Date: 5 Feb 92 From: aiden at NCoast.ORG (Steven Otlowski) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH This is a list of suppliers of period pigmenst - have fun. Auldhaefen Associates - * non-profit source of pigments 741 Montana Ave. * and many other neat things Akron OH 44314-3036 +1 216 745 9380 voice +1 216 753 8791 bbs 10AM to 10PM Pendragon 612/436-2046 * callig. & Illum. Supplies PO Box 327 fax: 612/436-2048 * carries Gum Sandarac Afton MN 55001 Master John the Artificer 412/362-0421 * period pigments John R. Rose 250 Emerson Street Pittsburgh PA 15206 Guild of Limners 603/654-2949 period pigments Baroness Megan Linda Anfuso RD 1 Box 134-B Forest Road Wilton NH 03086 Aiden Elfeadur - Steve Otlowski aiden at ncoast.org Newsgroups: rec.org.sca,alt.history.living From: nusbache at epas.utoronto.ca (Aryk Nusbacher) Subject: Re: period clothing Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 19:56:05 GMT Keywords: shoes, boots, cloathes, hats, and what not In article <25g649$93q at access.digex.net> willdave at access.digex.net (William Davenant) writes: >...I'm interested in acquiring 18th garb, >stockings, and footware. I would espcially like a nice fringed >tricorn or a cocked hat. > >My interest included ready-made, patterns, raw materials, etc. I post this to rec.org.sca because the two references are to sutlers who sell stuff that would be useful to Scadians as well as re-enactors. Buffalo Enterprises 308 West King Street Box 183 East Berlin, PA USA 17316 (717) 259-9801 Catalogue US$4 USA, US$6 foreign Tricorne hat trimmed with 'false gold' or silver including black cockade US$48; with white or black tape US$46. Shoes are US$97.50. Oak kegs, paraffin lined, from 1 US gal (3.8l) for US$30 to to 15 US gal (56.8l) for US$70. From the illustrations these are wood-bound, not iron-bound. Also stands, spigots, and a version with a hinged lid for use as a drinks cooler. Dutch ovens from 2 US qt for US$35 to 12 US qt for US$100. The Sutler of Mt. Misery G. Gedney Godwin Inc. Box 100 Valley Forge, PA USA 19481 (215) 783-0670 (215) 783-6083 (fax) Godwin has a beautiful catalogue with price lists and a separate 17th century line of stuff. Tricorne, military or civilian, plain US$28.95. Shoes $120. English kettle with legs, 5 US qt US$77, 12 US qt with lid US$138. Happy spending, Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: v081lu33 at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Kenneth C Mondschein) Subject: Addresses for video and Madblade Organization: University at Buffalo Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1993 01:12:00 GMT Hi, gentles! A number of the net.folks have e-mailed me asking for either the address of the people with the blimp (so they can order a battle cassette, not send them a letter bomb) or for Gypsy Madblade, the fellow who makes the good-quality and really cheap swords. Here they are: The blimp was courtesy of Eye-in-the-Sky productions. Their address is 2803 South State Street Suite B Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104 They have a 1-800 number, too (1-800-968-8439). Gypsy Madblade's mundane name is Paul Wilburn. He can be reached at: Madblade Amusements PO Box 3071 Shawnee, KS 66203 The phone number for that is (913) 677-4636 I bought a well-balanced long sword from him for $60. It did have a bit of oxidation on the hilt (easily removed with steel wool), but I saw his partner *stand* on the damn thing, bending it about forty degrees, and then punch the point through a metal breastplate and pick up the piece of metal with the sword. The cuirass, by the way, was riddled with holes from the other tests he had done. A friend of mine bought a hand-and-a-half sword that was polished nice and bright, and of the same quality. He makes his own stuff, as well as sells Starfire Armoury daggers and such. I should remark, however, that the $60 price was his Pennsic half-price-- you may have to pay more. --Tristan Clair D'Lune From: Greyhorn at f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Greyhorn) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Pattern companies Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 13:45:06 -0500 In a message dated 11-17-93 Allan Terry wrote to All: AT> Does anyone know of any sized British or Australian reproduction AT> patterns, for any period, comparable to the ones from Past Patterns AT> and similar companies? Response from Corn Glas, The Raven's Collegium Costume Connection 650 to 1650 they've got you covered (am on phone with owner, they have costumes up to the 1700's) Costume Connection Inc. P.O. Box 4518 Falls Church, Virginia 22044 (703) 237-1373 (703)237 1374 (24-hour fax line) They also carry tapestries, books, and jewelry Your servant, Grey. From: Sandy_Erickson at thequest.com (Sandy Erickson) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: swordsmith needed Date: 1 Dec 93 16:05:30 CDT Organization: The Quest Greetings, I would highly recomend Ramshead Armoury. P.O. Box 653, Champaign Il. 61824-0653 He will try to get anything you need if he doesn't carry it in stock. He will also do custom work, and stands behind his products. I have been very satisfied with this company. Sandy From: kreed at blackplague.gmu.edu (Kenneth Reed) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: swordsmith needed Date: 4 Dec 1993 05:03:33 GMT Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!) Try Black Rose Creations, 609-926-1297 (I think this is still current) Terry Marr makes guards and hilts, although usually not blades. Niall McKennett Organization: University of Maine System Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 13:18:14 EST From: Lisa A. M. Tyson Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Mediaeval Miscellanea Patterns Update Over two months ago I called Mediaeval Miscellanea and left a request on their answering machine for information regarding their patterns. I had given up all hope of ever hearing from them until I received the following in today's mail, which I am typing directly from the letter in front of me, for your information. Medieval Miscellanea 6530 Spring Valley Drive Alexandria, VA 22312 (703) 642-1740 "Dear Customer, Thank you for your interest in Mediaeval Miscellanea and our products. At the moment, we are not selling the jewelry, books and other products we have usually carried, and we are not selling our patterns directly to the public. Below is a list of two companies who do sell the jewelry, plus 6 of the companies who are carrying our patterns and do mail order. We are keeping your name on file, and will notify you about new patterns and other products. We are continuing to design new patterns (our Women's German Puff- and-Slash, c. 1500-1545, is now in stock with the dealers below). Jewelry: North Shore Gifts The Cottage Works 4857 Alcyn Dr. 12 W. Willow Grove Ave, Box 186 Racine, WI 53402-2507 Philadelphia, PA 19118-3952 (414) 639-5927 (215) 242-8849 Patterns: Amazon Drygoods MacKenzie-Smith 2218 East 11th Street 9600 Business Park Dr. Suite 2 Davenport, IA 52803 Truckee, CA 95734 (319) 322-6800 (916) 587-5974 Campbells House Morning Star RD 1 Box 1444 11246 S. Post Oak Rd. #217 Herndon, PA 17830 Houston, TX 77035 (717) 425-2045 (713) 729-7990 Raiments Alice Stephenson 3216 Villa Knolls Dr. 2734 Mountain View W. Pasedena, CA 91107 Tocoma, WA 98466 (818) 791-9195 (206) 565-2893 If you do contact one of these fine companies, please let them know we recommended them to you. If you sent a check with a catalog request, we have ripped it up to prevent accidental cashing. We are also designing and selling Period Pavillions, as well as used ones. If you would like a copy of our free Pavillion catalog, just call or drop us a note, we would be happy to send you one. Best, Coryn Weigle" === ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== === === Mediaeval Miscellanea carries a wide range of patterns and jewelry. I would recommend contacting the above companies regarding prices for catalogs or consulting the Costuming FAQ published in this forum. I have not yet made one of their patterns but I have two which have provided wonderful historic documentation in the packages. Their patterns are not cheap and I would recommend tracing the original tissue pattern pieces onto a more durable transparent tissue (such as a heavy duty gift wrap tissue available at most department stores in the gift wrap section). Having started with Folkwear patterns which use a heavier pattern paper, I am aghast at the toilet paper fragility of other commerically available patterns (ahem, my sewing abilities are best described as 'toddler' at this stage, but I'm getting better at tracking down these patterns). I hope this will help.If anyone has any recommendations for patterns, costuming and accessories, particularly mail order catalogs, I would appreciate a description to add to my local shire newsletter. I'll give you full credit if I pass the information along to people in verbal or written form! Yours In Service, Lady Brynn From: David.Appleton at f4229.n124.z1.fidonet.org (David Appleton) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: registered devices data base request Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 21:48:52 Free Trumpet Press West c/o Stephen Goldschmidt 877 San Lucas Avenue Mountain View, CA 94043 Stock No. FT-90. "Raw O&A [Ordinary and Armorial] data (3 High Density 3.5" diskettes, DOS format, ASCII" at $5.00. Price is in U.S. dollars and includes sales tax, shipping and handling. * Origin: Herald's Point * Steppes/Ansteorra * 214-699-0057 (1:124/4229) From: meg at tinhat.stonemarche.org (meg) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Sealing Wax Seals? Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 00:59:12 EDT Organization: Stonemarche Network Co-op tracker at bigwpi.WPI.EDU (The Renegade Ranger) writes: > To the many good gentles of the Rialto I bring my greetings, and a > request for your assistance. I am in need of a source for Seals to be > used with Sealing wax, as one Sasha the Seal Man has apparently ne'er > received my inquiries for his services. As the time in which I need > the implements grows short, I would hope that some good gentle may > harbor the answers which I desire. Several local sources have turned > up either a lack of the seals in a useable form ('Aladine' seals, > which look nice, but are monogrammed with letters that are not useful > to me), or seals in poor form (flat brass seals with poorly made > letters). > > If you can, please inform me where I could purchase (in great haste) > a seal of quality (but not of a King's ransom), or what might be > considered a reasonable way to entreat a local jeweler to make one. I > have tried, unsuccesfully, a few jewelers, but they would prefer I > have them work in gold, or some medium in which they could make a more > substantial profit. The quandry grows greater by the minute.. the > closer a source could be found to the New England area, the happier I > would be. > > For any and all of your kind assistance, I thank you. > > -Tracker > (still working on an unrelated project - dimensioning a mid-16th > century folding X-chair for reproduction. Too bad I can't sit in it to > test its comfort level..) Megan here with a shameless plug for one of my own. Lady Brianna is an excellent jeweler here in Stonemarche who has professional experience making lost wax castings of people's devices, etc. She can be reached at (603) 642-8584. I highly recommend her. == In 1994: Linda Anfuso In the Current Middle Ages: Megan ni Laine de Belle Rive In the SCA, Inc: sustaining member # 33644 YYY YYY meg at tinhat.stonemarche.org | YYYYY | |____n____| From: gisby at sys6626.bison.mb.ca (gisby) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Museum Replicas ltd. Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 13:18:22 CST Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada I have dealt with Museum Replicas from the days when their products were individually numbered, limited edition pieces. Yes, you have to pick and choose, their Del Tin blades are far better (to my eyes) than their Windlass blades. I had one of their pieces left in a tent with one emd on a toolbox and the other on the ground, and an anvil in between, ON THE BLADE! Yes, I was angry... But the blade sprung back, and the sword wasn't harmed. Their service can be spotty, but if you call the order desk, ask for "Cheryl" (Tell her Tim Peterson sends his regards) She's the one I've found to be helpful and able/willing to make the effort. McKenzie-Smith in fact reatil mostly Museum Replica swords, but their service can be much better, and their selection usually no worse. For spears, axes, & pole weapons try "Arms & Armour in Minneapolis. (Under the name Chris Poor in the phone book) If folk are interested, I also have addresses for good francescas and saxes. (My Barony is steel-heavy. We've taken to ordering weapons in bulk, and in order to obtain a style of sword, we had them custom-made in India.) Baron Thrym Oddomssonr (AKA Cein) From: STBLEZA at grove.iup.edu (J. Hunter Heinlen) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Syke's Sutlering Date: 18 Apr 1994 13:47:20 -0500 Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Greetings, all... Awhile back, someone asked for the address of Syke's Sutlering. This is the first oppritunity I have had to respond. Syke's Sutlering 1732 Magdalene Way Johnstown, PA 15905-3064 (814)255-3027 or (814)241-8530 74405,30 at CompuServe.Com Justinain Skye sells 'fine Seventeenth Century Goods', even though his is not limited to just 17th century. He sells many books (including period reproductions, the Ospery series, and a good bit else), clothes and garb (mostly for soldiers and quite utilitarian, but he will do custom work as well), ironworks (cook and camp wares), fencing equipment (including some SCA specific stuff), and also muskets and cannon. All of his prices are very resonable (the magic of low overhead). BTW, I am not employed by Justinain or his Sutlery, and the only connection I have to him is that of customer and sometimes fencing target, er, opponent. This information is provide for your information only, and is not a commercial announcement. +*****************************************+***********************************+ | This is only a test of the Emergency |J. Hunter Heinlen | | Ontology System. Had this been a real |(AKA SCA Jacobus Jager Draake) | | moral dilemma, you would have been told |(Internet:STBLEZA at GROVE.IUP.EDU) | | what to believe. - The Government | Ideas Contemplated While You Wait | +=========================================+===================================+ From: gisby at sys6626.bison.mb.ca (gisby) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Weapons Availability Date: Thu, 21 Apr 94 02:30:07 CST Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Arms & Armour 1101 Stinson Blvd. Minneapolis, MN 55413 (612) 331-6473 Spears, axes, pole weapons best, also have swords, armour, daggers, etc. Jas. Townsend & Son Inc. 133 North First St. P.O. Box 415 Pierceton, IN 46502 (800) 338-1665 Mostly balck powder stuff, but a good period francesca (FS167) plus other axes, a spearhead (LP165) and loads of useful stuff. Get their catologue... Also, try Moongate Designs from the Pennsic Book for good saxes (They have a good Northern style, and apparently a Southern style as well which I haven't seen) And try the Stuffy Purist, also from the Pennsic book. He has the Iberia blades that were so common at the War this year, but his prices ar very much better than average. By the way, for those that are keeping track, the Barony of Castel Rouge mailmaking marathon is over, with three shirts made in 91 days. (There are still a couple under construction, and the marathoners will be turning their callouses in that direction...) But we're starting to show the effects of breathing in the Zinc dust... Baron Thrym Oddomssonr (AKA Cein) Barony of Castel Rouge From: renee at ct.med.ge.COM (Renee Raduechel 414 785-5117) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Medieval Sourcebook Date: 6 May 1994 23:11:50 -0400 Organization: the internet I made the trek to the 25th Anniversary of the Midrealm on the 30th, and found something that I thought would be of widespread interest but which I've never heard mentioned on the Rialto in the year I've been reading it. There's a publication called "Ye Olde Pages" which lists, by category, merchants who deal in items of interest to SCA people. The 1994 edition has a $4 pricetag on it, and is published by: Kalligraphika P.O. Box 328102 Farmington, MI 48332-8102 U.S.A. Contact them for more information about obtaining it (e.g., if there are mailing costs, if you're a merchant who'd like to sell it). The categories: archery, armory, artisans & illustrators, booksellers, clothing, collectibles, domestics, electronic arts, entertainment & festivals, galleries & shops, glassware, games & toys, jewelry, leather- work, merchant, metalwork, music, mystical, needlework & textiles, organizations, pavilions & banners, publications, stationery, weaponry, and woodwork. It's 82 pages (pages are 11"x4.25"), not including the coupons, and has a nice index in the back that allows you to look up the merchants by name. If you're a merchant and you're not listed in it, I wish you were. Merchants who want to be listed are allowed to appear in 2 categories for free, and can purchase additional listings for $2 each. The only thing they ask of the people using the sourcebook to contact merchants is that they mention that they saw the ad in "Ye Olde Pages." I bought "Ye Olde Pages" on Saturday and sent off 8 requests for catalogs on Monday. (And I haven't made it through the entire sourcebook yet. :^) Renee renee at ct.med.ge.com From: kballar at pegasus.unm.edu (Kathryn Ballard CIRT) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: ISO Raymond's Quiet Press Date: 31 Jan 1995 19:52:32 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Donna Bowers (blktauna at netaxs.com) wrote: : I understand that Sir Raymond has retired for a bit. Raymond's Quiet Press is still active -- just not taking mail orders. We see him locally, of course, selling his wares (he's back into armor), but I'm not sure he will be selling at Estrella or Pennsic. I could ask if anyone is intereted. Kathryn of Iveragh, living in Raymond's own Barony of al-Barran, Outlands Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: v081lu33 at ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (TRISTAN CLAIR DE LUNE/KEN MONDSCHEIN) Subject: Address for the Metropolitan Museum Organization: University at Buffalo Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:10:20 GMT This is from my 1995 internship application: The Metropolitan Museum of Art 1000 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10028-0198 Attn: (whicherver department, or Gift Shop) --Tristan (they also have telefax, call Information) From: connect at aol.com (CONNECT) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Do you sell beads? Date: 7 Mar 1995 13:33:02 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Check out the Fire Mountain Gems catalog. I don't have their # in front of me, but you can get it from 800 directory information. (800) 555-1212. Rosalyn MacGregor of Glen Orchy Pattie Rayl of Cynnabar * Patricia Snyder-Rayl * (313) 973-8825 * CONNECT Magazine * (800) GET-CONNECT *Covering Commercial Online Services,* (313) 973-0411 fax * the Internet, and BBS Networks * (313) 973-9137 BBS From: Peter Valentine Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Fencing Suppliers Date: 19 Apr 1995 17:15:30 GMT Organization: Primenet KNGORMAN at ARTSPAS.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (KATHLEEN GORMAN) wrote: >Could someone please email me the contact phone numbers for the following >fencing suppliers: > >Mike McCallum's "King's Armory" (or some similar name) >and >"Museum Replicas" Museum Replicas: 1-800-883-8838 Also, for the Best (biased opinion;) ) fencing blades (Schlagers & Epee) try contacting Scottie Armory at: 602-635-9588 or try them on-line at: http://www.primenet.com/~valenti/scottie/catalog.htm/ Wolfgang von Hesse Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: DDFr at Midway.UChicago.edu (David Friedman) Subject: Re: Leathercraft Organization: University of Chicago Law School Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:08:42 GMT In article <3r4h21$lon at sparc.occ.uky.edu>, griffkl at ndlc.occ.uky.edu (Kevin Griffin) wrote: > Can anyone tell me of a good source to get leather from to make stuff? The leather factory is similar to Tandy's but, in my experience, somewhat less expensive--especially if you get on their mailing list and then wait for one of the frequent sales. They are my usual source for 13-15 oz vegetable tanned leather; I think the price for a piece of about 22 square feet worked out, when last I bought one (a couple of years ago at a guess), to about $5/lb. They have outlets in a number of different states, including Pennsylvania, but fewer than Tandy. -- David/Cariadoc DDFr at Midway.UChicago.Edu From: david.razler at compudata.com (DAVID RAZLER) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Pennsic Talking Rat?? Date: Sat, 09 Sep 95 20:06:00 -0400 Organization: Compu-Data BBS -=- Turnersville, NJ -=- 609-232-1245 HL>Francis A. Ney, Jr. wrote: HL>> HL>>Speaking of which, did the lady who does all the stuffed pets on HL>Merchant's >row show this year, and did she have her usual supply of HL>leeches for the >chirurgeons? HL> Yes, she was there. I bought a bat for a friend of mine and HL>got myself the Dwarf Mongolian Hamster Paper Dolls. I laughed for HL>five minutes straight when I saw the little guy with his fist HL>upraised and the little short sword that went in it. :) All with HL>period Mongolian clothing. :) There was a similar set of ferrets with HL>clothing that spanned the whole period. Elaine Moertl Falcon Mew/Ancient Tiger 5529 N. 55th St. Milwaukee, WI. 53218 Will custom-make just about anything - and offers out of stock just about every raptor ($35-$60[eagles]) parrot ($7-$35) catnip-stuffed "dead parakeets" and "dead sparrows") a variety of common medieval beasts (leeches $1, ferrets $18) and mythical beasts (dragons $20) and a whole bunch of other good stuff. Some of her raptors have scared pet birds, though Prester John (my African grey) showed no reaction to my stuffed peregrine. Friend's five cats definitely enjoyed one of her dead sparrows and home-grown 'nip. Recommended for her quality work Aleksandr the Traveller From: rhianwen at tcd.net (Rhianwen) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Das Edelweiss on the Web! Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:46:59 GMT Organization: The Computer Den, Inc. Evanston WY Das Edelweiss, long time SCA members and merchants of books, jewelry and other unique gifts of interest to living history folks, are now on the Web at http://www.tcd.net/~rhianwen/edelweis.html. The page is under construction, and so far only the costume books are online, but more will be added soon. The site will move at the end of this week to its permanent location at http://www.tcd.net/~robin/. Rhianwen (who has no financial interest in Das Edelweiss, but did the web page for them :> ) From: Janie Derby Date: July 12, 2004 6:37:00 AM CDT To: Stefan li Rous Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-announce] Stefan's files for July Stefan, It was nice to talk to you this weekend and finally put a face to the name. Thanks again for the information about the new magazine. Please add my info to your files. The Midnight Oile 38 W Anderson Aurora, MO 65605 http://www.midnightoile.com Since a.s. XVII We have trim, jewelry, books, scarves, lanterns, beads, shoes, bells and incense. You know your files structure best so where ever you think we fit is great. Thanks again, Myrtle of the Lost and Missing Edited by Mark S. Harris merchants-msg