gauntlets-msg - 9/17/08 ਀ഊHand protection, gloves, gauntlets. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: helmets-msg, armor-msg, p-armor-msg, gorgets-msg, weapons-msg, rattan-msg, quarterstaff-msg, swordcare-msg, axes-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: mchance at crl.com (Michael A. Chance) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Early period gauntlets? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㌀ 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㈀㨀㐀㠀㨀　㜀 ⴀ　㠀　　ഊ ਀椀瘀愀渀 愀琀 挀挀渀攀琀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䴀椀欀攀 吀爀礀漀渀⤀ 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> I am trying to figure out how to make combat legal gauntlets that will ਀㸀昀椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 渀椀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䄀渀最氀漀 匀愀砀漀渀⸀ 䄀渀礀 䤀搀攀愀猀㼀ഊ ਀䄀猀 愀渀 氀愀琀攀 ㄀㄀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 匀挀愀渀搀椀渀愀瘀椀愀渀⼀嘀愀爀愀渀最椀愀渀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀ഊproblem. What I've done for the past few years is take a pair of ਀洀攀琀愀氀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀椀渀琀 琀栀攀洀 戀爀漀眀渀Ⰰ 琀漀 氀漀漀欀 氀椀欀攀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀⸀  刀甀猀琀漀氀攀甀洀ഊpaints has a nice leather/cordoba brown in a flat finish, which is ਀眀栀愀琀 䤀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 甀猀攀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 栀愀搀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀 昀攀眀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀 愀猀欀椀渀最 琀漀ഊlook at my "leather" gauntlets, 'till they see them up close. ਀ഊOf course, you'll need to touch up the paint job periodically. ਀ഊThe alternative, of course, is to find someone to make a set of ਀氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀✀瘀攀 漀渀氀礀 猀攀攀渀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 瀀愀椀爀猀 琀栀愀琀 䤀✀搀ഊconsider using to fight in. They're not nearly as easy to make as ਀瘀愀洀戀爀愀挀攀猀 漀爀 挀甀椀猀猀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 椀猀渀✀琀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 愀猀 昀漀爀最椀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 眀漀爀欀ഊwith as metal. ਀ഊMikjal Annarbjorn ਀ⴀⴀ ഊMichael A. Chance St. Louis, Missouri, USA "At play in the fields ਀圀漀爀欀㨀 洀挀㌀　㜀愀 愀琀 猀眀㄀猀琀挀⸀猀戀挀⸀挀漀洀                             漀昀 匀琀⸀ 嘀椀搀椀挀漀渀∀ഊPlay: mchance at crl.com ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 一攀椀氀 䴀愀挀氀愀礀 㰀渀洀愀挀氀愀礀 愀琀 洀椀琀爀攀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䔀愀爀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀㼀ഊDate: 7 Nov 1994 21:25:11 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 倀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 匀礀猀琀攀洀猀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀ ⠀倀匀䤀⤀ഊ ਀吀刀䤀匀吀䄀一 䌀䰀䄀䤀刀 䐀䔀 䰀唀一䔀⼀䬀䔀一 䴀伀一䐀匀䌀䠀䔀䤀一Ⰰ 瘀　㠀㄀氀甀㌀㌀ 愀琀 甀戀瘀洀猀⸀挀挀⸀戀甀昀昀愀氀漀⸀攀搀甀 眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ>I said mail *over* hockey gloves. Hockey gloves are legal, ain't they? ਀ഊUnfortunately they probably are in the East Kingdom. But what is legal ਀椀猀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 猀愀昀攀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 琀漀漀 洀愀渀礀 戀爀漀欀攀渀 栀愀渀搀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊwere "protected" by hockey gloves. In Atlantia we require hard ਀最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 戀愀猀欀攀琀 栀椀氀琀Ⰰ 漀爀 栀愀渀搀 猀栀椀攀氀搀猀 昀漀爀 琀眀漀 栀愀渀搀攀搀 眀攀愀瀀漀渀猀⸀  䤀 搀漀渀✀琀ഊbelieve in making rules and requirements for hypothetical dangers but in ਀琀栀椀猀 挀愀猀攀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 最漀漀搀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 愀爀攀ഊinadequate. ਀⼀ഊMaster Malcolm MacMalcolm, Marshal ਀⠀ 樀甀猀琀 猀愀礀 ✀䴀䴀䴀䴀䴀⸀⸀⸀✀ ⤀ഊMKA Neil Maclay ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 匀栀愀渀渀漀渀 圀愀爀搀 㰀猀眀愀爀搀　㈀ 愀琀 戀椀最挀愀琀⸀洀椀猀猀漀甀爀椀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䔀愀爀氀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀㼀ഊDate: 9 Nov 1994 22:20:33 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䴀椀猀猀漀甀爀椀 ⴀ 䌀漀氀甀洀戀椀愀ഊ ਀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 琀漀漀 洀愀渀礀 戀爀漀欀攀渀 栀愀渀搀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊ> were "protected" by hockey gloves. I don't ਀㸀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 椀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 爀甀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀洀攀渀琀猀 昀漀爀 栀礀瀀漀琀栀攀琀椀挀愀氀 搀愀渀最攀爀猀 戀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 挀愀猀攀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 最漀漀搀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 愀爀攀ഊ> inadequate. ਀㸀 ⼀ഊ> Master Malcolm MacMalcolm, Marshal ਀ഊI agree that hockey goves do not do a good job of protecting hands. That's how my husband broke his-trying to block a great-sword shot. One surgery and a couple of months later he made a pair of aluminum (yes, I know "get real, use steel") gauntlets that were cheap and easy to make, and since then he has been selling them for less than a pair hockey gloves. Since the main arguement around here is that steel gauntlets are too expensive so fighters use hockey gloves, he's been able to convince quite a few ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 猀眀椀琀挀栀⸀  䤀昀 琀栀愀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 眀漀爀欀 栀攀 猀栀漀眀猀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀攀 猀挀愀爀猀⸀  ഊ ਀吀愀琀椀愀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀栀氀攀攀渀 愀琀 戀愀搀氀愀渀搀猀⸀一漀䐀愀欀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䰀礀渀渀 匀 䐀愀栀氀攀攀渀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Early period gauntlets? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀　 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㈀　㨀㈀㄀㨀㐀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network ਀ഊI once saw a pair of hockey gloves that were painted to look like hands. ਀䤀琀 氀漀漀欀攀搀 最漀漀搀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 愀洀 瀀氀愀渀渀椀渀最 漀渀 搀漀椀渀最 椀琀 ⠀洀礀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 椀猀 愀 ഊearly 7th century northern european). good luck! ਀吀愀爀爀愀挀栀 䄀氀昀猀漀渀 ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瘀　㠀㄀氀甀㌀㌀ 愀琀 甀戀瘀洀猀⸀挀挀⸀戀甀昀昀愀氀漀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀吀刀䤀匀吀䄀一 䌀䰀䄀䤀刀 䐀䔀 䰀唀一䔀⼀䬀䔀一 䴀伀一䐀匀䌀䠀䔀䤀一⤀ഊSubject: Re: Early Period Gauntlets ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 愀琀 䈀甀昀昀愀氀漀ഊDate: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 23:56:42 GMT ਀ഊ I played lacrosse for 3 years in high school (defense-- kinda like a ਀瀀漀氀攀愀爀洀 㨀⤀ ⤀ 愀渀搀 䤀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀礀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 栀攀愀瘀礀 挀漀洀戀愀琀㨀 ∀䜀攀攀℀ ഊSticks hitting hands! Like lacrosse! I'll use my old gloves!" ਀ऀ䤀 眀愀猀 圀刀伀一䜀℀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 甀琀琀攀爀氀礀 椀渀猀甀昀昀椀挀椀攀渀琀 瀀愀搀搀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀渀最攀爀猀 ⠀ഊesp. the tips) and are a great way to get hurt. Use the heavy hockey gloves, ਀瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀愀猀欀攀琀 栀椀氀琀℀ 倀氀攀愀猀攀℀ 䤀✀瘀攀 栀愀搀 琀漀漀 洀愀渀礀 愀氀洀漀猀琀ⴀ戀爀漀欀攀渀 ഊfingers! ਀ऀ䈀吀圀Ⰰ 䤀 昀椀渀搀 䈀氀愀挀欀猀眀漀爀搀 䄀爀洀漀爀礀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 琀漀 戀攀 昀愀爀 ⨀戀攀琀琀攀爀⨀ 琀栀愀渀 栀漀挀欀攀礀ഊgloves in terms of flexibility and protection. Mandrake/Blau patterns are ਀愀氀猀漀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀 瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀椀渀最Ⰰ 戀甀琀 栀愀瘀攀 眀漀爀猀攀 洀漀戀椀氀椀琀礀 甀渀氀攀猀猀 琀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 ഊn hourglass wrist. On the other hand, I highly recommend Mandrake or Blau ਀戀漀搀礀 愀爀洀漀爀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀ऀऀऀⴀⴀ吀爀椀猀琀愀渀 䌀氀愀椀爀 搀攀 䰀甀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: krekuta at tor.hookup.net (Kel Rekuta) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Early period gauntlets? per MMMM ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㔀 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㐀㨀㈀㈀㨀　㌀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Kilmallen Consulting ਀ഊIn article Neil Maclay writes: ਀㸀䤀 愀洀 愀昀爀愀椀搀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 愀洀 爀攀瀀攀愀琀椀渀最 洀礀 猀攀氀昀 戀甀琀Ⰰ 搀漀渀✀琀 爀攀氀礀 漀渀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 最氀漀瘀攀猀ഊ>alone to protect your hands. They don't. IMHO safety is more important ਀㸀琀栀愀渀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀⸀  䴀愀欀攀 甀瀀 愀 猀琀漀爀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 漀渀攀 漀昀 礀漀甀爀 愀渀挀攀猀琀漀爀猀 攀猀挀愀瀀攀搀ഊ>from a Roman gladiatorial school. They did use gauntlets to protect the ਀㸀栀愀渀搀 愀渀搀 昀漀爀攀愀爀洀⸀ഊ>Master Malcolm MacMalcolm, Marshal ਀㸀⠀ 樀甀猀琀 猀愀礀 ✀䴀䴀䴀䴀䴀⸀⸀⸀✀ ⤀ഊ>MKA Neil Maclay ਀ഊIMHO, you are not completely informed as to the availability of quality hockey ਀最氀漀瘀攀猀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 甀猀攀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 琀礀瀀攀猀 椀渀 ㈀㐀 礀攀愀爀猀 漀昀 洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 栀漀挀欀攀礀 愀渀搀 猀椀砀琀攀攀渀 ഊyears of SCA combat. Most cheap gloves found in department stores and bazaar ਀爀甀洀愀最攀 猀愀氀攀猀 洀攀攀琀 礀漀甀爀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀漀渀⸀  ഊ ਀㄀⤀ 䐀攀昀攀渀猀攀洀攀渀✀猀 最氀漀瘀攀猀⸀  䄀 洀漀搀攀氀 眀椀琀栀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀 琀栀椀挀欀 瀀愀搀搀椀渀最 愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀攀 ഊmetacarpals and a massive thumb. They even cover the bottom side of the hand. ਀䐀攀昀攀渀猀攀洀攀渀 琀愀欀攀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 猀琀椀挀欀猀 愀渀搀 猀欀愀琀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀搀⸀ ⠀䴀甀挀栀 氀椀欀攀 挀漀洀戀愀琀⤀ഊ ਀㈀⤀ 䰀愀挀爀漀猀猀攀 最氀漀瘀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 瀀爀漀琀攀挀琀 栀愀渀搀猀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀攀 ⨀攀砀愀挀琀⨀ 琀礀瀀攀 ഊof damage fighting with polearms creates. Watch a game of lacrosse. They don't ਀猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 愀椀洀椀渀最 愀琀 攀愀挀栀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 ⨀栀攀愀搀猀⨀ 戀甀琀 愀琀 愀 戀愀氀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀椀爀⸀ 匀攀攀 栀漀眀 ഊoften sticks connect with hands and arms and heads. ਀ഊBoth these gloves should cost less than $150 US because they are less than ਀␀㈀　　 䌀䐀一 椀渀 愀渀礀 最漀漀搀 猀瀀漀爀琀椀渀最 最漀漀搀猀 猀栀漀瀀 栀攀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀䈀礀 挀漀洀瀀愀爀椀猀漀渀Ⰰ 愀 瀀愀椀爀 漀昀 洀椀氀搀 猀琀攀攀氀 洀椀琀琀攀渀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 昀爀漀洀 洀愀渀礀 ഊarmourers at Pennsic run $150-200 US. They rarely fit the purchaser properly, ਀眀攀椀最栀 琀栀爀攀攀 琀漀 昀椀瘀攀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀 愀 瀀愀椀爀 愀渀搀⸀⸀⸀ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 瘀攀爀礀 昀氀攀砀椀戀氀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ഊwrist and fingers. I had a pair of stainless gauntllets made after several ਀礀攀愀爀猀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 愀昀昀漀爀搀 琀栀攀洀 愀渀搀 ⨀眀愀渀琀攀搀⨀ 琀栀攀洀 昀漀爀 愀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀椀琀礀 猀愀欀攀⸀ഊThey are worth a lot more than most fighters, let alone newbies can afford. ਀ഊMy lord if you really want to be informative, I humbly request you recommend ਀眀栀愀琀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 ⨀挀愀渀⨀ 甀猀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀攀爀攀 椀琀 洀愀礀 戀攀 漀戀琀愀椀渀攀搀⸀  一漀 漀昀昀攀渀猀攀 椀渀琀攀渀搀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Neil Maclay ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Early period gauntlets? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㔀 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㤀㨀　㐀㨀㌀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Planning Systems, Inc. (PSI) ਀ഊKel Rekuta, krekuta at tor.hookup.net writes: ਀㸀 䤀䴀䠀伀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀 椀渀昀漀爀洀攀搀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 焀甀愀氀椀琀礀ഊ> hockey gloves. I have used several types in 24 years of mundane hockey and ਀㸀 猀椀砀琀攀攀渀 礀攀愀爀猀 漀昀 匀䌀䄀 挀漀洀戀愀琀⸀ ഊ ਀夀漀甀 愀爀攀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 爀椀最栀琀⸀  䤀 愀洀 渀漀琀 昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 栀漀挀欀攀礀ഊor lacrosse gloves. The hockey and lacrosse gloves that I have owned, ਀猀攀攀渀Ⰰ 漀爀 昀漀甀最栀琀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 椀渀 ㄀㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 漀昀 匀䌀䄀 挀漀洀戀愀琀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀琀 戀攀攀渀 愀搀攀焀甀愀琀攀ഊbut I can well believe that I have seen only the low end of the scale ਀瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀猀⸀  䈀甀琀 琀栀攀猀攀 愀爀攀 眀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 栀愀渀搀猀 漀昀 匀䌀䄀 昀椀最栀琀攀爀猀ഊand I have seen quite a few hand injuries as a result. Of course ill ਀洀愀搀攀 漀爀 椀氀氀 昀椀琀琀椀渀最 洀攀琀愀氀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 眀椀氀氀 愀氀猀漀 挀愀甀猀攀 栀愀渀搀 椀渀樀甀爀椀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 眀攀氀氀 洀愀搀攀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 洀愀欀攀 昀爀漀洀 猀漀氀攀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀氀甀洀椀渀甀洀Ⰰ  栀漀挀欀攀礀ഊplastic, kydex, and steel. I am not an armorer. I agree with Kel that ਀椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀漀猀琀攀搀 眀栀攀爀攀 最漀漀搀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 挀愀渀 戀攀 漀戀琀愀椀渀攀搀ഊand what the costs would be. If any armorers reading this would post ਀琀栀椀猀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 昀氀愀洀攀搀 昀漀爀ഊadvertising. Also, Kel, could you give us yours recommendations. for ਀挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 猀瀀漀爀琀猀 最氀漀瘀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 戀爀愀渀搀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀 愀渀搀 洀漀搀攀氀㼀ഊ ਀ऀ吀栀愀渀欀猀ⰀഊMaster Malcolm MacMalcolm, Marshal ਀⠀ 樀甀猀琀 猀愀礀 ✀䴀䴀䴀䴀䴀⸀⸀⸀✀ ⤀ഊMKA Neil Maclay ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀攀渀渀椀猀 最甀礀 最爀愀挀攀 㰀愀洀愀稀椀渀最 愀琀 洀愀椀氀⸀甀琀攀砀愀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊTo: ansteorra at eden.com ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㄀㨀㔀㜀㨀㈀㌀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊSubject: Re: Plastic Gauntlets ਀ഊLyonel here again. ਀ഊAt 12:07 PM 10/14/96 -0500, Gnith wrote: ਀㸀䤀✀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 愀爀洀漀爀 昀爀漀洀 䄀䈀匀 昀漀爀 愀 眀栀椀氀攀 ☀ 攀瘀攀渀 琀爀椀攀搀 洀愀欀椀渀最ഊ>36-piece plastic finger gauntlets this weekend. (They came out looking like ਀㸀戀椀最Ⰰ 爀椀搀椀挀甀氀漀甀猀 䐀愀爀琀栀 嘀愀搀攀爀 栀愀渀搀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀猀琀椀挀 椀猀 樀甀猀琀 瀀氀愀椀渀 琀漀漀 琀栀椀挀欀 琀漀ഊ>do really well-tuned fingers, but it was a fun project and will probably ਀㸀琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀 攀愀猀椀氀礀 椀渀琀漀 洀椀琀琀攀渀猀⸀⤀ ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 最攀渀攀爀愀琀攀 愀 渀甀洀戀攀爀 漀昀 搀椀猀愀最爀攀攀洀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 猀琀爀漀渀最氀礀ഊrecommend that you NOT use lightweight materials such as plastic, leather, ਀漀爀 愀氀甀洀椀渀甀洀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀⸀  䤀 欀渀漀眀 椀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀 琀栀攀 爀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀ഊwish it were. As with your helmet, part of the protection afforded by ਀最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀 爀攀猀琀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀椀爀 愀戀椀氀椀琀礀 琀漀 愀戀猀漀爀戀 洀漀洀攀渀琀甀洀ⴀⴀ椀⸀攀⸀Ⰰ 琀栀攀椀爀 洀愀猀猀⸀  圀椀琀栀ഊgauntlets, to a certain degree, mass is good. ਀ഊI got into a huge argument over this with Viscount Sir Aveloc the Young, ਀挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 爀攀猀椀搀椀渀最 椀渀 䄀渀 吀椀爀 愀 昀攀眀 礀攀愀爀猀 戀愀挀欀⸀  䠀攀 挀氀愀椀洀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀ഊusing his leather gauntlets for X number of years without injury and ਀猀甀最最攀猀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 洀礀 挀漀渀樀攀挀琀甀爀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 椀渀猀甀氀琀椀渀最⸀  一漀琀 氀漀渀最 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 栀攀 最漀琀ഊhis hands broken in an Artemisian coronet list. Now he uses steel. ਀ഊYours in eService ਀ഊSir Lyonel Oliver Grace ਀开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开ഊDennis G. Grace ਀倀漀猀琀洀漀搀攀爀渀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀椀猀琀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Ty Silvanage ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䨀愀渀甀愀爀礀 ㄀㜀Ⰰ ㈀　　㠀 㐀㨀㐀㜀㨀㔀㌀ 䄀䴀 䌀匀吀ഊTo: bryn-gwlad at lists.ansteorra.org ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀䈀爀礀渀ⴀ最眀氀愀搀崀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 挀漀漀氀 最愀甀渀琀氀攀琀猀ഊ ਀昀甀渀琀椀漀渀愀氀 戀甀琀 昀愀渀琀愀猀礀 渀漀渀攀 琀栀攀 氀攀猀猀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀搀愀爀欀欀渀椀最栀琀愀爀洀漀甀爀礀⸀挀漀洀⼀搀攀琀愀椀氀⸀愀猀瀀砀㼀䤀䐀㴀㈀　㠀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris gauntlets-msg Page 5 of 5 ਀ഊ