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Comments on wearing period clothing. How to move in them and how they change the way you move.

 

NOTE: See also the files: fashion-msg, child-clothes-msg, p-shoes-msg, pants-trews-lnks, patterns-msg, smptuary-laws-lnks, underwear-msg, corsets-msg, codpieces-msg.

 

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From: Marc Carlson [marccarlson20 at hotmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:03 PM

To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org

Subject: [Ansteorra] re: walking authentically

 

Personally, I find that walking 'authentically' means adjusting myself to

the footwear.  The complaints I've heard about "period shoes" tend to be

based on the fact that the wearer won't or can't adjust to the demands of

the footwear, and so they wind up fighting their shoes and their feet hurt.

 

Plain medieval shoes are much like walking barefoot.  Most modern people are

used to not only having a slightly raised heel (which messes with the

internal muscles of the shoe, causing some to develop that wouldn't, and

others to atrophy), but also having padding and protection.  If you will

watch people walking, A lot of them tend to slam their heels into the

ground.  They also don't watch where they are walking.  Someone walking

barefoot is more likely to -place- their heel on the ground, and step around

things like sharp glass and rocks.

 

Walking in long toed shoes adds a certain twist to it since you have to step

up high enough to clear the toe.  Or else you waddle like a penguin.

 

Using pattens and additional outer soles help emulate the more modern

thoughlessness about how we walk, but are not always the perfect answer

either (actually a lot of people shuffle in pattens, rather than -walking-

-- personally I don't wear them, they drive me nuts).

 

Marc/Diarmaid

 

 

From: Morgan Cain [morgancain at earthlink.net]

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:39 AM

To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org

Subject: [Ansteorra] Re: [ANST] re: walking authentically

 

> Personally, I find that walking 'authentically' means adjusting myself to

> the footwear.  The complaints I've heard about "period shoes" tend to be

> based on the fact that the wearer won't or can't adjust to the demands of

> the footwear, and so they wind up fighting their shoes and their feet

hurt.

>

> Plain medieval shoes are much like walking barefoot.  Most modern people

> are used to not only having a slightly raised heel (which messes with the

> internal muscles of the shoe, causing some to develop that wouldn't, and

> others to atrophy), but also having padding and protection.  If you will

> watch people walking, A lot of them tend to slam their heels into the

> ground.  They also don't watch where they are walking.  Someone walking

> barefoot is more likely to -place- their heel on the ground, and step

> around things like sharp glass and rocks.

 

I agree with Diarmaid (except that I think he meant to say "muscles of the

FOOT"), in part because I have a grandmother who has worn HIGH heels for so

long that she can no longer set her foot flat on the ground.  Her hamstring

and muscles of the leg and foot have her permanently on tippy-toe.

 

On the other hand, I walk barefoot most of the time; I actually prefer it.

I make sure to have boots on when at Wars if I will be working around the

battles, otherwise it's sandals or barefoot, and I have to remember to slip

on my shoes when walking around at work.  Many people are surprised that I

can walk barefoot so easily, but if you are accustomed to it, it's not a

problem.

 

Diarmaid is right - they key to many persons' complaints about walking in

medieval shoes, and the usual accommodation they make, is not being

accustomed to having a soft sole.  You do need to worry about stones in the

way, etc., when wearing soft soles, because you DO feel them.

 

And slightly aside of this, I have a friend whose wife made him a "Henry

VIII" outfit, and he told us that the reason you always see men of that

period in the particular feet-apart, hands-on-hips stance is because it is

the only comfortable way to stand; the weight of the garments throw you

off-balance otherwise.

 

                                            ----= Morgan

 

 

From: Marc Carlson [marccarlson20 at hotmail.com]

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:36 PM

To: ansteorra at ansteorra.org

Subject: [Ansteorra] re: walking authentically

 

>From: "Morgan Cain" <morgancain at earthlink.net>

>...I agree with Diarmaid (except that I think he meant to say "muscles of

>the FOOT")

 

Oh, Probably.  Let me check... nope you're right.  I mistyped.

 

Marc/Diarmaid

 

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