p-sleepwear-msg - 3/20/02

Period sleepwear. Referances.

NOTE: See also the files: beds-msg, shirts-msg, underwear-msg, headgear-msg, 
jewelry-msg.

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From: clevin at ripco.com (Craig Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Medieval sleepwear info
Date: 1 Feb 2002 17:57:54 GMT

D2ñ <laughing at yoursorryass.com> wrote:
>Anyone have any web refrences that have factual information on what kind of
>sleepwear men, women and children wore  from 1100-1600?

Where? What level of society?

For late mediaeval Portugal, I suggest Oliveira Marques' Daily
Life in Portugal in the late Middle Ages. Seems that people slept
in the buff or just in a nightshirt.

Pedro
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From: becon101 at yahoo.com (bernard connor)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Medieval sleepwear info
Date: 3 Feb 2002 11:59:11 -0800
 
> Oh sorry. I was thinking of northern europe.. like England, Ireland and the
> such... no particular classes.. perhaps a span from peasants to
> nobles....just a general outlook.

I have never seen any references to the concept of separate clothing
for night wear in medieval times. It seems that depending on
circumstances, temperature or social class that people slept
either naked or fully dressed. Alternatively, males slept in their
shirts, females in their shifts.

Bernard


From: bronwynmgn at aol.comnospam (Bronwynmgn)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Date: 04 Feb 2002 14:28:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Medieval sleepwear info

becon101 at yahoo.com (bernard connor) writes:
>I have never seen any references to the concept of separate clothing
>for night wear in medieval times. It seems that depending on
>circumstances, temperature or social class that people slept
>either,naked or fully dressed. Alternatively, males slept in their
>shirts, females in their shifts.

And if you see pictures of people in bed, almost inevitably any part of the
body you see is bare, while the heads are covered with a cap or other
headdress.

Brangwayna Morgan


From: Charlene Charette <charlene at flash.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Medieval sleepwear info
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:42:03 GMT

Stefan li Rous wrote:
> > No worse than the Cranach portraits.  Lovely...ummm... hats.
> >
> > --Perronnelle
> 
> Which portraits are these? I don't believe I've seen nor
> heard of them. What time period and location?

Late 15th, early 16th century Germany.  He painted lots of women wearing
nothing except large chain necklaces and big hats.

--Perronnelle


From: Andrew Tye <atye at efn.org>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Medieval sleepwear info
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:00:42 -0800
Organization: Oregon Public Networking

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Stefan li Rous wrote:
> Charlene Charette <charlene at flash.net> wrote:
> > No worse than the Cranach portraits.  Lovely...ummm... hats.
> 
> Which portraits are these? I don't believe I've seen nor
> heard of them. What time period and location?

Ivar here,

Lucas Cranach the Elder 1472-1553 was court painter to Duke Frederick III
(the Wise), Elector of Saxony.  He was born in Cronach, (which is
north-east of Bamberg) and lived most of his life in Wittenburg, (where he
at times served as Lord Mayor).  He is known particularly for his
portraits and his nudes.  (People who do German Renn. are or should be
familiar with his portraits.)  His nudes were often allegories from the
Bible or classical mythology and often featured the same minx-faced model
in nothing more than an elaborate hat and massive gold chains about her
neck.  Below are some URL for examples of this latter type of painting:

<http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/c/cranach/lucas_e/1/venuscup.jpg>

<http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/c/cranach/lucas_e/1/cupid.jpg>

<http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/cjackson/cranach1/p-cran1-13.htm>

<http://tigtail.org/L_View/TVM/X1/e.Northern/cranach/M/cranach_venus_standing.j
pg>

Also of note, Lucas Cranach the Elder was made a member of the nobility in
1508 for his painting and service.

Ivar Hakonarson
Crosston, West. 

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