merch-shoes-msg - 5/18/11
Lists and reviews of period-style shoe makers and sellers.
NOTE: See also the files: shoes-msg, p-shoes-msg, boots-msg, merch-cloth-lst, patterns-msg, pattens-chpns-msg, shoemaking-msg, leather-msg, merch-leather-msg.
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Subject: Boots and Shoes
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 98 11:52:08 MST
From: rmhowe <magnusm at ncsu.edu>
To: Merryrose <atlantia at atlantia.sca.org>
Since someone asked for information on boots:
For those truehearts who wish to make their own -
The premier site for make your own medieval shoes is:
Footwear of the Middle Ages by I. Marc Carlson,
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/carlson/SHOEHOME.HTM
(For the Mongols there is a plan for Mongol boots.)
Marc also contributes to Leather Crafter's Corner:
http://web0.tiac.net/users/hollyoak/lthcraft.htm
(Both the above are reachable from http://www.sca.org/ .
The stockclerk also sells some patterns for shoes.)
Then there is Paul Lalonde's Burgundian Court Shoes:
http://www.loonie.net/~plalonde/World/SCA/shoe.html
Regia Angolrum's page on Medieval Leatherworking:
http://www.ftech.net/~regia/leatwork.htm
Costume Designs Footwear page for the Renn boot how to's is
not really medieval, but tastes vary... (read his ethics page).
http://www.uit.net/wmorris/costume/footwear/footwear_index.html
Some opinion and references on Scottish and Irish shoes at:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/4715/shoes.html
Basic Viking Footwear at:
http://www.spoon.demon.co.uk/vikes/vikshoe.htm
..................................................
For those who wish to buy -
Shoes and Boots from Historic Enterprises (Swan and Lion):
http://www.historicenterprises.com/swanlion/Swan_index.html
http://www.historicenterprises.com/arms_and_armor/shoes_and_boots.html
Museum Replicas sells shoes and Boots that aren't too bad:
http://www.museumreplicas.com/
Then there is Chivalry Sports, also not too bad:
http://www.renstore.com/index.shtml
(Above are fairly good. Christian Fletcher Armory was selling Medieval
Turnshoes, but not in the current catalog.)
For those in cold climates, Mystic Caravan's Aussie Dogs sheepskin
boots and shoes: http://frognet.net/mystic-caravan/Aussie1.htm
They have a fairly primitive look to them. I think L. L. Bean sells
them too in season.
Minnetonka sells what they term Renaissance Boots:
http://www.minnetonka-by-mail.com/
Many folks buy these reasonably priced boots. Not really period but...
Tandy Leather: http://www.tandyleather.com/ has plans and supplies
for moccasin styles and leather.
.....................................................................
*(Before the Authenticity Police (TM) come after me, I do not endorse
the Renn Boot styles but tastes vary. Anyway, I have the
MoLondon book, MoDenmark book, and others on real period shoes.
I'd like to see them walk Pennsic in one thin layered sole.) ;8^P
Catskill Mountain Mocassins for really outrageous Renn Boots:
Some of the Dream Shoes from Bald Mountain Moccasins are not too
far OOP looks, but with thick soles: http://www.dreamshoes.com/
I would think that some of these might be good for Pennsic rocks.
And more outrageously styled Renn Boots from those folks:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~majormic/baldmtn.html
Put on your dark glasses for these Renn Boots:
http://www.sodhoppers.com/moccasin.htm
.....................................................................
International Internet Leatherworkers Guild pages: http://iilg.org/
for general Leather Information.
This was written for the webenabled to find sources, especially the
newbies.
M. Magnus Malleus, Atlantia and the GDHorde
Permission granted to repost within the SCA, (but OFF the Rialto).
Subject: ANST - Boots
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 99 08:10:46 MST
From: ches at io.com
To: SCA Ansteorra List <ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG>
CC: Wetlands Mailing list <wetlands-l at swiftmessage.com>
I just found another source for boots that are inexpensive. They are
riding boots with extra wide calf widths ranging from 68.00 to 149.00.
F. Havas
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:52:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Penny Wright <pennykwright at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Looking for suggestions ...
To: lochac <lochac at sca.org.au>
<<< I am finally trying to get good garb together ... the fabric for my
Belted Plaid has been ordered (did I mention my persona was mid-15th
century highland Scot?) ... but now I need proper shoes. Does anyone
have any suggestions on what would be appropriate footwear, and where I
could get it from?
Sorle
--
Somhairle (Sorle) Mac Nicail - mka Jeff Nicholson >>>
Theuderic and I have bought shoes from Awl Leather.
http://www.awlleather.com.au/al_med_shoes.html
We find them to be quite comfy and with the option of the rubber sole makes them quite practical too. We've both had quite a bit of use out of them and there have been no problems at all.
I know nothing of the place and period you are looking at but you may be able to commission him to make something copied from a picture (which we were able to do).
Engelin
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:44:41 +1300
From: Alasdair Muckart <silver at where.else.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Finding accurate shoes on the Internet
To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list"
<lochac at lochac.sca.org>
Hi Columb,
On 23/11/2009, at 8:54 PM, Columb mac Diarmata wrote:
<<< I'd love to get your opinion on the "boot + shoe" combo revival.us is
currently selling for only $130 USD (for both pairs!).
http://revival.us/highmedievalshoesindooroutdoorspecial.aspx >>>
The Revival.us ( http://Revival.us/ ) ankle shoes I've seen are good, the style is fairly accurate and people who have them seem to like them a lot (the revival clothing ones are a bit naff though).
The low shoes there are, well, a bit odd. The ankle is too low and the closing seam is a lapped rather than butted seam but other than that the general shape is pretty good.
The bit that breaks them for me is the random thonging around the top. It's a wierdness seen on a few reproductions that I've never managed to find a scrap of evidence for. I think originally it was a misinterpretation of stitch holes that on the original shoes held on a top band and over time as shoe vendors copy elements of each other's work they drift further and further from accuracy and you end up with thonging through punched holes.
If I were you I'd get the ankle boots from awl leather (who are in Australia, and therefore cheaper to ship and not susceptible to exchange rate fluctuation) or revival.us/Chivalry Bookshelf (http://revival.us/Chivalry ).
The other option would be these shoes
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yhelc38
I've never seen a pair of this guy's work in person, but judging by the photos the shapes are good, and his prices are on the ridiculous end of cheap.
http://www.historische-schuhe.de/epages/61580448.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61580448/Categories
I hope that helps.
--
Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.blogspot.com
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:36:22 +1300
From: Alasdair Muckart <silver at where.else.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Finding accurate shoes on the Internet
To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list"
<lochac at lochac.sca.org>
On 23/11/2009, at 10:11 PM, Columb mac Diarmata wrote:
The bit that breaks them for me is the random thonging around the top. It's a wierdness seen on a few
reproductions that I've never managed to find a scrap of evidence for. I think originally it was a
misinterpretation of stitch holes that on the original shoes held on a top band and over time as shoe
vendors copy elements of each other's work they drift further and further from accuracy and you end up with thonging through punched holes.
<<< Do your comments about the thonging only apply the shoe, or also to
the boot closure (which I notice the Awl Leather "14th century Ankle
Boot" also shares)? >>>
Not the closures, the stuff around the top edges of the shoe, where they've punched a bunch of holes and spiral wrapped a thin leather thong through them.
The closures on both aren't bad.
--
Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.blogspot.com
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:02:52 +1300
From: "Lila Richards" <lilar at ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Finding accurate shoes on the Internet
To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list"
<lochac at lochac.sca.org>
<<< The other option would be these shoes
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yhelc38
I've never seen a pair of this guy's work in person, but judging by the
photos the shapes are good, and his prices are on the ridiculous end of cheap.
http://www.historische-schuhe.de/epages/61580448.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61580448/Categories
>>>
I really like the look of these, and you're right, they do seem ridiculously
cheap (roughly double the Euros for the NZ$ equivalent - is that about
right?) Are they specifically men's shoes, do you know, or does it not
matter? I'm thinking they'd look good with my houppelande. :-)
Sinech.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:40:53 +1300
From: Alasdair Muckart <silver at where.else.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] internet shoes
To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list"
<lochac at lochac.sca.org>
On 24/11/2009, at 1:14 AM, Jenny Andersen wrote:
<<< I quite like this woman's work, though being in pounds they are kind of pricey, though the workmanship looks excellent:
http://www.sarahjuniper.co.uk/ >>>
Sarah Juniper's work is as good as it gets. She was apprenticed to Master (IRL, not SCA) Al Saguto at Colonial Williamsburg if I recall correctly. I haven't seen any medieval work of hers but her Tudor work is as good as it gets.
You do pay real custom shoe prices though.
The other extremely high-end shoemaker working in the UK is Mark Beaby at Bjarni's Boots whose domain name has unfortunately lapsed and been snapped up by squatters.
--
Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.blogspot.com
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:41:46 +1300
From: Alasdair Muckart <silver at where.else.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [Lochac] Finding accurate shoes on the Internet
To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list"
<lochac at lochac.sca.org>
On 23/11/2009, at 11:02 PM, Lila Richards wrote:
<<< I really like the look of these, and you're right, they do seem ridiculously cheap (roughly double the Euros for the NZ$ equivalent - is that about right?) Are they specifically men's shoes, do you know, or does it not matter? I'm thinking they'd look good with my houppelande. :-) >>>
Unless you get into the silly long decorated Poulaines which only seem to appear in men's sizes it doesn't matter. Men and women wore the same style shoes throughout the vast majority of our period.
--
Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.blogspot.com
From: Ceallach mac Donal <ceallach at dwarfworks.com>
Date: December 29, 2009 5:56:35 PM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
If you're willing to spend $75, Bohemond carries Mary Rose shoes and
Turnshoes for that price. (
http://www.nmia.com/~bohemond/Bootshop/shoe-page/shoe.html )
RenBoots carries a decent enough mary-jane for the ladies at $69
( http://www.renboots.com/mary_jane.html )
And I found those birkenstocks in european sizes 35-47 from $67-$75 at
http://search.allheart.com/?catalog=allheart&.autodone=nsearch.html&query=birkenstock+london&x=0&y=0
Ceallach mac Donal
From: Jean Paul de Sens <jeanpauldesens at gmail.com>
Date: December 29, 2009 9:29:28 PM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
No experience with the Bohemond ones, but my darling wife bought me a pair
of Native Earth ones:
http://www.nativearth.net/period.html
<http://www.nativearth.net/period.html>about 4 years ago, and they are
awesome. I have worn them to death, fought in them at tournies and melees,
and just this year had to get them re-soled.
However, they are *way* not inexpensive shoes.
JP
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:29 PM, JOHN KELLER <
wolfgangvonsachsenhausen at yahoo.com> wrote:
<<< Does anyone have any experience with their Landsknecht "Cow Mouths"? They
look like a nice basic shoe that can double for "Tudor Duty" but I worry
about sturdiness and comfort.
Wolfgang >>>
From: Darlene Burns <annescvb at gmail.com>
Date: December 30, 2009 7:29:46 AM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
Believe it or not, I found a modern "cow mouth" in the Woman Within
catalogue a few years back. The pictures on their site look very similar to
what I have, and if I purchased them I would get one of the modern soles put
on for more protection and support. The shoes I have are extreamly
comfortable because the wide toe box gives you lots of "wiggle" room.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 8:29 PM, JOHN KELLER <
wolfgangvonsachsenhausen at yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with their Landsknecht "Cow Mouths"? They
look like a nice basic shoe that can double for "Tudor Duty" but I worry
about sturdiness and comfort.
Wolfgang
--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Ceallach mac Donal <ceallach at dwarfworks.com> wrote:
<<< If you're willing to spend $75,
Bohemond carries Mary Rose shoes and Turnshoes for that price. (
http://www.nmia.com/~bohemond/Bootshop/shoe-page/shoe.html
)
From: Casey Weed <seoseaweed at gmail.com>
Date: December 30, 2009 9:39:28 AM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
Hanse, here, and I see that it's time to shake some sense into the ether.
Thank God there's me for this. This is going to be a little wordy but I
won't charge you sad people for my time.
Look, bad shoes can ruin your whole week, not just your weekend, and there
have been some grade A rotten shoe suggestions here. I won't out you...
it's the holidays and your famillies have probably talked about you enough.
Ren faire gillie/mocca-SINS with grammaw's coin purse toe suck. They let
water in better than a Trimaran crab trap, the soles are thin, the thongs
break, they're neither warm nor cold, and the only academic reference to the
design as it stands are in Harlequin Romance's Annual Wedding Magazine that
pixies foist on you at the Scarborough Grove of Plumpy Nuptual Bliss. No
support in them and no room to improvise support.
Birkenstocks look like what they are: hippy sandals. There are a few models
that approximate a period shoe: the Athenian and the one that looks a bit
16th century that one of our expatriate plump deutche ritters was famous for
wearing. They're not cheap. If you get em wet, they fall apart pretty
quick. They have "Birkenstock" on the buckle which is great if that's your
name. My name is Lord Hanse "Gift of Knowledge" Kleermaker, Rescinded Baron
of Ravensfort... needless to say they don't have my model. Get em if you
need to look like a Brueghel painting, want to spend $120, and don't intend
to get em wet. You may wind up smelling like patchouli and hemp because
they signal the hippy crowd that you're "420 friendly".
Bohemonds shoes don't make the grade. They have a nice modern tough sole
but the uppers are so flimsy that the laces tear out too early to enjoy
them. They only look like Mary Rose shoes if you're the kid who doesn't
understand the "one of these things is not like the others" game on Sesame
Street. Buy a pair, throw away the uppers, and make a shoe from the sole.
I complained to him about mine... he told me "tough noogies... you have
weird feet." Perhaps he doesn't get my charm.
JP suggested some high faluty shoe (oops, outed). I see three designs on
that page that I could safely say pass for authentic- and several that would
fit in on either a Star Trek alien or a wizard from Deathstalker II, so
beware. Also, they run up to about $400. They look well-built and if you
can afford them please give me the cash and I'll get you a pair just like em
for less and pocket the change. Don't talk about JP; Owen hits him in the
head and then he makes Bad Choices.
Or... you can spend $80 and get these:
http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9
Period buckles, sturdy leather, they look right for about the middle 200
years of what we do, and they're roomy enough for an insert or even the guts
of a Nike athletic shoe. They can take an over sole. They can be resoled.
Yes, these cost 20 bucks more than some of the "bargain" shoes mentioned.
That's four Happy Meals. Two hours work at minimum wage. That's one fourth
of a Brazillian waxing. Hold back on one hour of pleasure with a Bjornsborg
tavern "customer service professional" and you have saved all you need- only
a half hour if she's Italian.
But the real moral of this is: THERE IS NO SUCH BEAST AS A BARGAIN SHOE.
It's not worth the grief to risk it and it's too cheap to even consider it.
If you are unswayed imagine cold, wet, feet. Imagine blisters. Imagine
broken laces and flippy floppy soles. Imagine the secret sniggering of Sir
Alexis and Sir Gaston as they judge you by your inauthenticity with all
those other judgey knows-what's-period laurel types. Imagine your grade
school football coach laughing at you as you try to limp out that last lap,
with cold, throbbing toes. If you can't figure out how to get the extra 20
clams come talk to me; we'll play cards with what you do have and I'll go
buy a pair for me.
As always, glad to help.
Hanse
From: Darlene Burns <annescvb at gmail.com>
Date: December 30, 2009 11:02:18 AM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Casey Weed <seoseaweed at gmail.com> wrote:
<<< Ren faire gillie/mocca-SINS with grammaw's coin purse toe suck. They let
water in better than a Trimaran crab trap, the soles are thin, the thongs
break, they're neither warm nor cold, and the only academic reference to the
design as it stands are in Harlequin Romance's Annual Wedding Magazine that
pixies foist on you at the Scarborough Grove of Plumpy Nuptual Bliss. No
support in them and no room to improvise support. >>>
*I will out myself, since anybody reading this thread has already figured it
out t'was me. :)*
**
*I have owned 2 pairs of the "coin purse toe" shoes, one of which I
eventually (after 15 years) wore out the heels and necessitated the second
pair. Before you say "So sorry for you", I want to say that yes, they are
not a wet weather shoe at all...I don't wear them where it is wet...or sandy
for that matter for similar reasons. I wear these where the grass is mowed,
the dirt is packed well, or in the indoor hall type venue. I found that an
arch support worked quite well in them and I have *never* broken a thong. I
have always found them to be very comfortable. *
**
*As far as the academic reference goes, they are better than sneakers and
almost all of the time are unseen because my skirts are more than floor
length in most cases. When they are glimpsed they do not scream
"NIKE!!!!!!", do not light up, nor have day-glow orange strips on them
somewhere.*
<<< Or... you can spend $80 and get these:
http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9
*Nice boots. I agree that they look very nice. Not a bad price either*
But the real moral of this is: THERE IS NO SUCH BEAST AS A BARGAIN SHOE. >>>
*I tend to agree with you. Several pairs of shoes that I own are much more
expensive than what you mention.*
**
*However, if I read the original thread correctly, the thrust of this is how
to dress on a budget that is tighter than what I have had to deal with in
quite some time. There are folks that a $20 difference is not "4 happy
meals" but enough gas to get to work that day and back. While *I* have
reached a stage of my career and pay grade that I have the luxury of
actually buying from artisans who do the research and make the
products...there are still enough folk in the SCA who can't that suggestions
for what alternatives are available is worth discussing.*
<<< It's not worth the grief to risk it and it's too cheap to even consider it.
If you are unswayed imagine cold, wet, feet. Imagine blisters. Imagine
broken laces and flippy floppy soles. Imagine the secret sniggering of Sir
Alexis and Sir Gaston as they judge you by your inauthenticity with all
those other judgey knows-what's-period laurel types. >>>
*At the risk of starting the old debate of compulsive authenticity vs.
creative anacronism, the Society only requests that an attempt at period
clothing be made to attend Society functions. *
**
*I have observed that most who can afford to get items that are closer to
what was in period (or those who have the interest and skills to research
and make their own) have grown up enough through the years to be much more
tolerant of the foibles of others around them. I still occasionally run
into new folk that tell me of some run-in with an authenticity maven, but
most of the horror stories I hear come from those who entered the Society 20
or more years ago. *
**
*It is my opinion that people finally got the message that dissing
somebody's good faith attempt at a period look is not a "good thing" either
for their karma, the person being dissed nor the society as a whole. Mainly
because many of those so dissed said "Hey, I can get this in the real
world...I don't need it from my hobby!" and left the Society never to
return. Who knows what marvels of art or courtesy were thus lost to us
forever? *
**
*Besides Sir Alexis is one of the nicest gentlemen it has been my pleasure
to know. "Secret Sniggering" at someone else's garb is just not his style! *
--
Annes
From: Tomas Niallagain <siortomas at gmail.com>
Date: December 30, 2009 11:17:20 AM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
Sorry you had problems with Bohemod's. I love my boots, I still wear
my original set for fighting, resoled once and just now wearing out the
upper, I've had them for 9 years with a lot of wear. Now I have a second
pair for dress, these are maybe 2.5 years old and I have revival's tall
boots when I really want to make a statement. For shoes I have 2 pair, one
revival and 1 pair made for me for my vigil 3 years ago by Baron Daire of
Elfsea, both are soft soled but when I add in the wooden pattons my feet are
saved much misery when walking on rocks.
<snip>
Tomas
From: Iago <baroniago at earthlink.net>
Date: December 30, 2009 4:27:27 PM CST
To: "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Cheap footwear.
Hanse may not approve of them, but the Bikenstock London model is wonderful (and expensive). I have not attracted any patchouli smelling followers trying to put beads or flowers or friendship bracelets on me.
If someone gets their face close enough to it to read anything stamped into the buckle they have bigger problems than words on the buckle.
In addition, they are comfortable enough to last two weeks at Pennsic as my primary shoes, two weeks of roaming through Brussels, Gronnigen, and other parts near Hanse's homeland. I won't go tromping through puddles in them, but they last well in wet grass.
Iago
To: Gleann Abhann (mail list) <gleannabhann at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Turnshoes
Posted by: "Kirsten Garner" kngarner at sbcglobal.net kirstenng
Date: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:40 pm ((PDT))
I've got turnshoes from both Revival Clothing and Revival Enterprises / Chivalry Sports. They're both fairly comfortable (and I'm fairly picky). :) Just as a warning, though, the leather on the soles isn't as thick as the leather on the soles of each company's respective ankle boot. The turnshoe sole might not wear as well at, say, the Gulf Wars site.
And links:
http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=7
http://revival.us/reenactorsturnshoe.aspx
Julian
From: "Dale Carroll" <dcarroll at mylinuxisp.com>
Date: October 13, 2010 5:03:30 PM CDT
To: <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra] Ansteorra Digest, Vol 54, Issue 13
There is a company right here in Ansteorra called RenBoots
(http://www.renboots.com). If I recall correctly, when I spoke to the
owner of the company (we both patronize the same liquor store), all but
his least expensive boots and shoes are made in the USA. They are a bit
pricier than the $100 Robin Hood boots from SCAboots, but most of them
include a "fighting sole" option.
Miles Grey
*****************************************
Thank you so much for posting this. This company has taken over making the court shoes that Dreamshoes used to make at TRF. For several years tons of people wore these shoes as they were reasonably priced and very comfortable. However, the gentleman who produced them passed away and they were out of production. Apparently they reached an agreement whereby they can now produce the exact same shoe. It's the Concho design. Having worn two pairs of these out over 8 years of fighting, I am thrilled to be able to buy another pair.
From: Elizabeth Bair <countessdulcia at gmail.com>
Date: February 16, 2011 10:58:37 AM CST
To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Revival shoes
Turold and I have lots of Revival's shoes. I currently have four
pairs and he has three pairs, in various styles.
If you get them with the vibram sole they are fine for fighting light
weapons, and probably heavy as well if you aren't the kind of person
who wants steel-toed boots on for that (some do, some don't, your
call!). I have tried to fight in the period smooth leather soles and
will never do it again! Of course, I was fighting in the ravine,
after a rain, in newish shoes with smooth leather soles... but let's
just say it was failure. LOL
The heavy, "outdoor" leather soles are fine for general outdoor
walking but have almost NO traction so you have to learn to walk a bit
differently, and watch the transition onto slick tile/marble floors!
The light leather soles of the "indoor" shoes have the same degree of
traction as the heavier ones and are fine for most smooth/smoothish
outdoor surfaces, but my tender tootsies do not care for walking on
gravel, broken pavement or other rough surfaces in them.
Dulcia
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:45 AM, <calireen at gmail.com> wrote:
<<< Has anyone bought shoes from Revival? If so are they good for both fighting and just walking around an event?
Lady Antonia >>>
From: Corey Steff <garmestrang at gmail.com>
Date: February 16, 2011 11:11:48 AM CST
To: "the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com" <the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Revival shoes
My lady has. I would say they are good for both. They don't have steel
toes if that's your thing. If someone steps on your foot, it's going
to mucking hurt. The ones we bought also only have a leather sole
which doesn't offer much traction... Knowing that though, I would
still fight in them... At least rapier.
- Gavine
On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:46, calireen at gmail.com wrote:
<<< Has anyone bought shoes from Revival? If so are they good for both fighting and just walking around an event?
Lady Antonia >>>
From: Brad Toney <eddypow at yahoo.com>
Date: February 16, 2011 11:39:07 AM CST
To: "the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com" <the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Revival shoes
I have bought from both revival clothing and revival.us.
I much prefer the ones from revival.us.
I have fought in them, up till I got my boots from our local shoe maker, Alan.
The problem I had with the shoes from revival clothing was that they did not have a tongue, so a lot of dirt and sand got in, and they broke down too fast.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Philippe
On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:45, calireen at gmail.com wrote:
<<< Has anyone bought shoes from Revival? If so are they good for both fighting and just walking around an event?
Lady Antonia >>>
From: Steve Brooks <aesop_2000 at yahoo.com>
Date: February 16, 2011 11:44:03 AM CST
To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Revival shoes
> Are they true to size? I was going to add the sole so I don't make my knee unhappy while doing rapier.
>
>Antonia
Well...., mostly. It really depends on the style of the shoe. If you have the opportunity, I'd recommend actually trying them on first. My tall boots are my "normal" size, but I went with a larger size on the viking boots and turn shoes.
Turold
From: Elaine Manyoki <emanyoki at yahoo.com>
Date: February 16, 2011 2:51:57 PM CST
To: the-triskele-tavern at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {TheTriskeleTavern} Revival shoes
Before my accident, my "ex" used to buy our boots there (revival.us), and then have the local shoe-maker add a layer to the sole from what amounted to material from re-tread tires. It cut way down on the slippage in the lunges and forward steps, and gave us great traction, especially in damp weather. Up until an actual puddle, that is, and then all bets were off. I didn't mind the lack of the tongue in the footwear, but I did want just a bit more thickness to the bottom.
Katya
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