cl-Spain-msg - 12/22/09 ਀ഊClothing of medieval Spain. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: cl-Moorish-msg, cl-Celts-msg, clothing-books-msg, corsets-msg, hoops-msg, patterns-msg, fd-Spain-msg, Spain-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀  栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀  栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀  愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀  漀昀  攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀  眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀  眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀  眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀  渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀  愀猀  琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀  漀昀  琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  最椀瘀攀渀  戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀  爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀  愀渀搀  攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀  琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀  琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀  挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀  漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀  椀猀  甀渀挀氀攀愀爀  愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀  椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀  椀猀  瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀  昀爀漀洀  琀栀攀猀攀  洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: jdejesus at eden.rutgers.edu (Ramirez) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Spanish Personna ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㤀 䨀甀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㔀㨀㔀㈀㨀㈀㄀ ⴀ　㐀　　ഊOrganization: Rutgers University ਀ഊdpirko at uoguelph.ca (Denise Pirko) writes: ਀㸀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 䬀愀琀樀攀ഊ ਀㸀䄀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 漀昀 洀椀渀攀 椀猀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 猀漀 猀栀攀 挀愀渀 搀攀瘀攀氀漀瀀 愀 ഊ>spanish personna. Unfortunately we have a rather pitiful library here at ਀㸀琀栀攀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䜀甀攀氀瀀栀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 愀洀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 最攀琀 渀愀洀攀猀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 渀愀洀攀猀 ഊ>and dress, mostly for the time after 1300, so we can use the wonderful ਀㸀椀渀琀攀爀氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 氀漀愀渀 猀礀猀琀攀洀⸀  ഊ ਀㸀䬀愀琀樀攀ഊ ਀圀栀椀氀攀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 愀 渀愀洀攀 戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 䤀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 渀愀洀攀 眀椀氀氀 瘀愀爀礀 最爀攀愀琀氀礀 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 眀攀琀栀攀爀 猀栀攀 椀渀琀攀渀搀猀 琀漀 戀攀 昀爀漀洀 猀漀甀琀栀攀爀渀 匀瀀愀椀渀 ⠀瀀爀椀洀愀爀椀氀礀 䴀甀猀氀椀洀⤀ 漀爀 一漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 匀瀀愀椀渀 ⠀倀爀椀洀愀爀椀氀礀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀⤀⸀ 䈀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀氀氀ഊalso vary by the ecact time period your friends persona chooses because between ਀琀栀攀 㤀琀栀 愀渀搀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀 䴀甀猀氀椀洀 椀渀昀氀甀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 匀瀀愀椀渀 瘀愀爀椀攀猀⸀ ഊ ਀        䄀猀 昀漀爀 挀漀猀琀甀洀椀渀最 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 爀攀挀挀漀洀攀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀㨀ഊ ਀㄀　㘀 刀唀吀䜀䔀刀匀 唀一䤀嘀䔀刀匀䤀吀夀      ⴀ 䤀刀䤀匀 䰀䤀䈀刀䄀刀夀 匀夀匀吀䔀䴀 ⴀ   䄀䰀䰀 ⨀吀䤀吀䰀䔀 匀䔀䄀刀䌀䠀ഊ ਀                                                       䌀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀   ㄀ 漀昀   ㄀ഊ AUTHOR Anderson, Ruth Matilda. ਀    吀䤀吀䰀䔀 䠀椀猀瀀愀渀椀挀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀Ⰰ ㄀㐀㠀　ⴀ㄀㔀㌀　 ⼀ 戀礀 刀甀琀栀 䴀愀琀椀氀搀愀 䄀渀搀攀爀猀漀渀⸀ഊPUBLISHER New York : Hispanic Society of America, 1979. ਀  䐀䔀匀䌀刀䤀倀 砀Ⰰ ㈀㤀㌀ 瀀⸀ 㨀 椀氀氀⸀ 㬀 ㈀㤀 挀洀⸀ഊ SERIES Hispanic notes & monographs, essays, studies, and brief biographies : ਀          倀攀渀椀渀猀甀氀愀爀 猀攀爀椀攀猀ഊ NOTES Includes index. * Bibliography: p. 265-269. ਀ 匀唀䈀䨀䔀䌀吀匀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 ⴀⴀ 匀瀀愀椀渀 ⴀⴀ 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀⸀ ⨀ 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 ⴀⴀ 倀漀爀琀甀最愀氀 ⴀⴀ 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀⸀ഊ LC CARD 78066880 ਀     䤀匀䈀一 　㠀㜀㔀㌀㔀㄀㈀㘀㌀ഊ RLIN ID G81-B764 ਀ഊ While on the late end, (you asked for post 1300) It is very thourough. ਀䤀琀 最椀瘀攀猀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀氀漀猀攀 甀瀀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 昀爀漀洀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀爀琀眀漀爀欀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 ഊdescriptions of the garments as well. Althogh it primarily deals with Christian ਀昀愀猀栀椀渀 椀琀 搀漀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 䴀甀猀氀椀洀 昀愀猀栀椀漀渀猀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀                                ⴀ䤀渀 匀攀爀瘀椀挀攀Ⰰഊ Julio DeJesus ਀                                䄀渀椀戀愀氀 刀椀瘀攀爀愀 刀愀洀椀爀攀稀 䐀攀䨀攀猀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: foxd at silver.ucs.indiana.edu (daniel fox) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Spanish Garb ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㄀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 　㐀㨀㔀㔀㨀　㜀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Indiana University, Bloomington ਀ഊIn article <4s1vqu$e9o at newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ਀匀栀椀爀攀㈀㌀　㠀 㰀猀栀椀爀攀㈀㌀　㠀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㸀䤀 氀椀瘀攀 椀渀 吀漀氀攀搀漀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀愀瀀椀琀愀氀 漀昀 䔀猀瀀愀渀愀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 栀愀氀昀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ㄀㘀琀栀ഊ>Century. Unfortunately, I am having a difficult time making clothing for ਀㸀洀礀猀攀氀昀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 挀愀渀 渀漀琀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 最漀漀搀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 ⠀漀爀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀⤀⸀  䌀愀渀ഊ>anyone help me? ਀㸀ഊ>Gracias, ਀㸀䌀爀椀猀琀椀渀愀 䔀甀氀愀氀椀愀  ഊ ਀倀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 栀愀爀搀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀㬀 礀漀甀✀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 琀栀攀洀 漀甀琀ഊfor yourself. Two books which should be useful for your period are: ਀ഊAnderson, Ruth M. Hispanic Costume, 1480-1530. Hispanic Society of America. ਀ ㄀㤀㜀㤀⸀  ഊ ਀䈀攀爀渀椀猀 䴀愀搀爀愀稀漀Ⰰ 䌀愀爀洀攀渀  吀爀愀樀攀猀 夀 䴀漀搀攀猀 攀渀 氀愀猀 䔀猀瀀愀渀愀 搀攀 氀漀猀 刀攀礀攀猀 䌀愀琀漀氀椀挀漀猀⸀ഊSerie Artes y Artista. Institute Diego Valzquez del Consejo Superior de ਀䤀渀瘀攀猀琀椀愀琀椀漀渀猀 䌀椀攀渀琀椀昀椀挀愀猀⸀  䴀愀搀爀椀搀㨀 ㄀㤀㜀㠀⸀ ⠀㈀ 瘀漀氀甀洀攀猀⸀ ㄀⤀ 䰀愀 䴀甀樀攀爀攀猀㬀 ㈀⤀ 䰀漀猀ഊHombres.) ਀ഊ(I don't guarantee that all information is correctly transcribed for that ਀氀愀猀琀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 愀甀琀栀漀爀 愀渀搀 琀椀琀氀攀⸀  䠀椀最栀 匀挀栀漀漀氀 匀瀀愀椀渀猀栀 眀愀猀 愀 䰀伀一䜀 琀椀洀攀ഊago.) ਀ഊThese books are probably out of print, but are probably available through ILL. ਀ഊAudelindis de Rheims ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀椀挀欀攀渀攀礀 愀琀 愀挀挀攀猀猀㄀⸀搀椀最攀砀⸀渀攀琀 ⠀䐀椀挀欀 䔀渀攀礀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀  爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀ഊDate: 30 Oct 1996 18:28:54 -0500 ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䔀砀瀀爀攀猀猀 䄀挀挀攀猀猀 伀渀氀椀渀攀 䌀漀洀洀甀渀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 䜀爀攀攀渀戀攀氀琀Ⰰ 䴀䐀 唀匀䄀ഊ ਀䨀漀䄀渀渀攀 㰀樀漀开愀渀渀攀 愀琀 愀戀洀⸀挀漀洀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>If there is anyone out there who could point me the right direction in ਀㸀氀漀挀愀琀椀渀最 愀渀礀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最愀爀戀 昀爀漀洀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 礀攀愀爀 ㄀㔀　　⸀  䤀 栀愀搀 昀漀甀渀搀ഊ>a really great book called the "Hispanic costume 14?? to 15??" but it's ਀㸀漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀爀椀渀琀 猀漀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 最攀琀 椀琀⸀  愀渀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀椀琀氀攀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 最爀攀愀琀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䐀漀渀愀 䰀甀挀椀愀 搀攀 嘀愀氀攀渀挀椀愀ഊ ਀䤀 愀猀猀甀洀攀 礀漀甀 昀漀甀渀搀 䠀椀猀瀀愀渀椀挀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 ㄀㐀㠀　ⴀ㄀㔀㌀　 戀礀 刀甀琀栀 䴀愀琀椀氀搀愀 䄀渀搀攀爀猀漀渀Ⰰഊcopyright 1979. Another book to try for is: Historic Costume - A ਀䌀栀爀漀渀椀挀氀攀 漀昀 䘀愀猀栀椀漀渀 椀渀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀Ⰰ 戀礀 䘀爀愀渀挀椀猀 䬀攀氀氀礀 愀渀搀 刀甀搀漀氀瀀栀ഊSchwabe. copyright 1929-1968, reprinted 1988. It begins with 1490 AD and ਀椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 猀漀洀攀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀㴀吀愀洀愀爀 琀栀攀 䜀礀瀀猀礀 ⠀猀栀愀爀椀渀最 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀 搀椀挀欀攀渀攀礀 愀琀 愀挀挀攀猀猀⸀搀椀最攀砀⸀渀攀琀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: TDLEC at aol.com ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㈀㌀㨀㔀㜀㨀㌀㈀ ⴀ　㔀　　 ⠀䔀匀吀⤀ഊTo: markh at risc.sps.mot.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 吀伀刀儀唀䔀䄀䴀䐀䄀 倀䔀刀䤀伀䐀ഊ ਀䤀 最漀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀愀椀氀 琀漀搀愀礀Ⰰ 渀漀琀 琀漀 猀甀爀攀 眀栀愀琀 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀ 䤀 最甀攀猀猀ഊgo look it up. ਀ഊbruce horton ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀഊAnderson, Ruth M. Hispanic Costume, 1480-1530. Hispanic Society of America. ਀ ㄀㤀㜀㤀⸀  ഊ ਀䈀攀爀渀椀猀 䴀愀搀爀愀稀漀Ⰰ 䌀愀爀洀攀渀  吀爀愀樀攀猀 夀 䴀漀搀攀猀 攀渀 氀愀猀 䔀猀瀀愀渀愀 搀攀 氀漀猀 刀攀礀攀猀 䌀愀琀漀氀椀挀漀猀⸀ഊSerie Artes y Artista. Institute Diego Valzquez del Consejo Superior de ਀䤀渀瘀攀猀琀椀愀琀椀漀渀猀 䌀椀攀渀琀椀昀椀挀愀猀⸀  䴀愀搀爀椀搀㨀 ㄀㤀㜀㠀⸀ ⠀㈀ 瘀漀氀甀洀攀猀⸀ ㄀⤀ 䰀愀 䴀甀樀攀爀攀猀㬀 ㈀⤀ 䰀漀猀ഊHombres.) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 氀愀搀礀瘀愀氀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䰀愀搀礀 嘀愀氀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 吀伀刀儀唀䔀䄀䴀䐀䄀 倀䔀刀䤀伀䐀ഊDate: 26 Jan 1997 00:37:25 GMT ਀ഊBruce Horton, tdlec at aol.com (TDLEC) asked: ਀ഊ>I'm new to SCA and want to know more on the Torquemada period 1400-1500, ਀㸀琀栀攀 䤀渀焀甀椀猀椀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 䌀漀甀爀琀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀猀 昀漀爀 洀攀渀⸀ ഊ ਀䴀礀 匀䌀䄀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀 椀猀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀漀 眀栀椀挀栀ഊyou refer. I found a wonderful book by Ruth Matilda Anderson entitled ਀䠀䤀匀倀䄀一䤀䌀 䌀伀匀吀唀䴀䔀 ㄀㐀㠀　ⴀ㄀㔀㌀　 眀椀琀栀 㔀㘀㤀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 椀渀 戀氀愀挀欀 愀渀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 愀渀搀 㠀ഊin foll color. ਀ഊI dont remember where I got the book, but I believe I ordered it from some ਀洀愀椀氀 漀爀搀攀爀 挀愀琀愀氀漀最甀攀 漀昀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 戀漀漀欀猀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 䠀愀氀氀椀搀愀礀ഊLithograph, copyright 1979 by the Hispanic Society of America, New York. ਀ഊIt has the first half of the book divided into a section "Men and their ਀䐀爀攀猀猀 伀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀猀∀ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀渀琀椀爀攀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 洀愀搀攀 甀瀀 漀昀 猀洀愀氀氀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀ഊpaintings and statues with notes about each type of clothing for men and ਀眀漀洀攀渀 戀漀琀栀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 礀攀愀爀 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 眀栀漀ഊwore that particular article of clothing. Within each section there are ਀猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 攀渀琀椀琀氀攀搀 ∀䠀愀椀爀 匀琀礀氀攀猀∀ 愀渀搀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 漀渀攀 ∀䠀攀愀搀最攀愀爀∀ 搀漀眀渀 琀漀ഊ"Footwear." ਀ഊI hope you could locate this book and it would be helpful to you. I have ਀氀攀愀爀渀攀搀 愀 氀漀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 渀漀琀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀⸀ഊ ਀䠀 䔀 嘀愀氀攀渀挀椀愀 䌀愀爀氀漀琀愀 䴀愀爀椀愀 搀攀 䜀爀愀渀愀搀愀ഊ(16th century Spanish noblewoman in the court of Catherine of Aragon, ਀昀椀爀猀琀 眀椀昀攀 漀昀 䠀攀渀爀礀 嘀䤀䤀䤀⤀ഊ ਀洀欀愀 ⴀ 䨀愀渀椀挀攀 吀攀爀爀攀氀氀ഊemail - Lady Val at aol.com ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 一⸀䐀⸀ 圀攀搀攀爀猀琀爀愀渀搀琀 㰀渀眀攀搀攀爀猀 愀琀 洀愀椀氀⸀甀琀攀砀愀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊNewsgroups: austin.org.sca ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀渀攀猀搀愀礀Ⰰ 䄀甀最甀猀琀 ㄀㤀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㤀㠀 㔀㨀㈀㜀 䄀䴀ഊSubject: Re: BG - Spannish Garb ਀ഊ The Dutch were controlled by the Spanish in the latter part of the 17th ਀挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀  倀栀椀氀椀瀀 䤀䤀Ⰰ 栀甀猀戀愀渀搀 琀漀 䴀愀爀礀 吀甀搀漀爀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 䬀椀渀最 ⠀攀洀瀀攀爀漀爀⤀ 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊSo it would be logical and appropriate for you to find heavy Spanish ਀椀渀昀氀甀攀渀挀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䐀甀琀挀栀⸀   ⠀愀渀搀 瘀椀挀攀 瘀攀爀猀愀⤀ഊ ਀䤀琀✀猀 昀甀渀 琀漀 渀漀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䐀甀琀挀栀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀漀爀渀猀 椀渀 匀瀀愀椀渀✀猀 猀椀搀攀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀猀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 猀椀搀攀 渀漀琀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 ⠀㄀㘀㔀　⬀ 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 吀愀椀氀漀爀✀猀 戀漀漀欀 琀栀愀琀ഊhas been reproduced with patterns and such. It's pretty cool. ਀ഊClare ਀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䈀䜀 ⴀ 匀瀀愀渀渀椀猀栀 䜀愀爀戀ഊDate: Wed, 19 Aug 98 14:56:36 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀一⸀䐀⸀ 圀攀搀攀爀猀琀爀愀渀搀琀∀ 㰀渀眀攀搀攀爀猀 愀琀 洀愀椀氀⸀甀琀攀砀愀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊTo: bryn-gwlad at Ansteorra.ORG ਀ഊIt took a second but I found the info in the UT Online Catalog. ਀ഊThe name of the book is The "Tailor's Pattern Book: 1589 facsimile" by Juan ਀搀攀 䄀氀挀攀最愀Ⰰ 倀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 䌀愀爀氀琀漀渀Ⰰ 䈀攀搀昀漀爀搀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㜀㤀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀 椀渀琀漀ഊEnglish. ISBN # is 905585065 ਀䤀琀✀猀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 渀攀愀琀 戀漀漀欀 猀漀 椀昀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 昀椀渀搀 椀琀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 昀甀渀℀ഊ ਀䄀䰀猀漀 䨀愀渀攀琀 䄀爀渀漀氀搀✀猀 戀漀漀欀猀 漀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 挀漀猀琀甀洀椀渀最 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 最漀漀搀 琀椀瀀猀 漀渀ഊconstruction of doublets and such. ਀ഊClare ਀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 圀攀氀猀栀洀攀渀 椀渀 匀椀搀攀氀攀猀猀 匀椀爀挀漀愀琀猀⼀䴀攀渀 椀渀 匀瀀愀椀渀ഊDate: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:00:05 -0500 (EST) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䜀爀愀挀攀 䴀漀爀爀椀猀 㰀最洀漀爀爀椀猀 愀琀 挀猀㄀㐀⸀瀀搀猀⸀挀栀愀爀氀漀琀琀攀⸀渀挀⸀甀猀㸀ഊTo: Robert J Welenc ਀䌀䌀㨀 䄀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀 愀琀 愀琀氀愀渀琀椀愀⸀猀挀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀匀漀甀爀挀攀猀 琀漀 䠀攀氀瀀 夀漀甀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䌀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䌀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 漀昀ഊ13th Century Spain from Mistress Maddalena Jessamyn di Piemonte ਀⠀猀漀爀爀礀Ⰰ 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 甀渀搀攀爀氀椀渀攀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 猀琀甀瀀椀搀 猀礀猀琀攀洀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀⸀⸀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀攀爀猀漀渀Ⰰ 刀甀琀栀 䴀愀琀椀氀搀愀⸀  ⠀㄀㤀㐀㈀⤀⸀  ∀倀氀攀愀琀攀搀 䠀攀愀搀爀攀猀猀攀猀 漀昀 䌀愀猀琀椀氀氀愀 愀渀搀ഊLeon (12th and 13th Centuries)". In Notes Hispanic, 1942, ਀瀀⸀㔀　ⴀ㜀㔀⸀攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀ഊ ਀䈀攀爀渀椀猀 ⠀䴀愀搀爀漀稀愀⤀Ⰰ 䌀愀爀洀攀渀⸀  ⠀㄀㤀㔀㐀⤀⸀ ∀吀愀瀀椀挀攀爀椀愀 䠀椀猀瀀愀渀漀 䴀甀猀甀氀洀愀渀愀 ⠀匀椀最氀漀猀ഊIX-XI)." Archivo Espanol de Arte, 27, p.189-211. ਀ഊ__________________. (1956). oIndumetaria Medieval Espanola. Madrid: ਀䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀攀 䐀椀攀最漀 嘀攀氀愀猀焀甀攀稀⸀  琀栀爀漀甀最栀 氀愀琀攀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀⸀ഊ ਀开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开开⸀  ⠀㄀㤀㔀㘀⤀⸀  吀愀瀀椀挀攀爀椀愀 䠀椀猀瀀愀渀漀ⴀ䴀甀猀甀氀洀愀渀愀 ⠀匀椀最氀漀猀 堀䤀䤀 礀ഊXIV). Archivo Espanol de Arte, 29, p.95-115. ਀ഊ__________________. (1970). La Moda y las Imagenes Goticas de la ਀嘀椀爀最攀渀⸀  䌀氀愀瘀攀猀 倀愀爀愀 猀甀 䘀攀挀栀愀挀椀漀渀⸀  䄀爀挀栀椀瘀漀     䔀猀瀀愀渀漀氀 搀攀ഊArte, 43, p.193-218. timelines for the evolution of the ਀戀愀猀椀挀 挀愀洀椀挀愀Ⰰ 猀愀礀愀ഊ ਀䌀愀渀搀攀爀爀愀 礀 匀漀氀愀渀漀Ⰰ 搀⸀ 嘀愀氀攀渀琀椀渀⸀  ⠀㄀㠀㘀㐀⤀⸀  䤀挀漀渀愀最爀愀昀椀愀 䔀猀瀀愀渀漀氀愀ⴀഊColleccion de Retratos, Estatuas, Mausoleos y Demas ਀䴀漀渀甀洀攀渀琀漀猀 䤀渀攀搀攀搀椀琀漀猀 搀攀 刀攀礀攀猀Ⰰ 刀攀椀渀攀猀Ⰰ 䜀爀愀渀搀攀猀 䌀愀瀀椀琀愀渀攀猀ⰀഊEscritores, Etc. desde el Siglio XI hasta el VII. Madrid: Imprenta de ਀䐀漀渀 刀漀洀漀渀 䌀愀洀瀀甀稀愀渀漀⸀ 猀甀爀瀀椀猀椀渀最氀礀 愀挀挀甀爀愀琀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀Ⰰ 搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 琀漀洀戀猀ഊ ਀䰀漀瘀椀氀氀漀Ⰰ 䨀漀猀攀 䜀甀攀爀爀攀爀漀⸀  ⠀㄀㤀㐀㤀⤀⸀  䰀愀猀 䌀愀渀琀椀最愀猀㨀  攀猀琀甀搀椀漀 愀爀焀甀攀漀氀漀氀漀最椀挀漀ഊdes sus miniaturas. Madrid: Instituto Diego Velasquez. good ਀挀愀琀攀最漀爀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 挀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 琀礀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀愀戀氀攀      戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀ഊpattern conjecture...also weapons, architecture, clerical vestments ਀ഊ(also look in various art books, too many to list here!) ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䨀甀氀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㠀㨀㄀㄀㨀㐀　 ⴀ　㜀　　 ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Gabrielle Bombard ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: footwear help ਀ഊI just picked up this really cool book from the library called Hispanic ਀䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 ㄀㐀㠀　ⴀ㄀㔀㌀㔀 ⠀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀⤀⸀  䤀琀 栀愀猀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 昀漀漀琀眀攀愀爀 甀猀椀渀最ഊperiod paintings and sculptures as examples. It would be a good place to ਀猀琀愀爀琀Ⰰ 愀猀 䤀琀愀氀礀 愀渀搀 匀瀀愀椀渀 猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 攀砀挀栀愀渀最攀 椀搀攀愀猀 爀愀瀀椀搀氀礀⸀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀ䬀椀愀爀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:54:51 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䌀愀爀漀氀 吀栀漀洀愀猀 㰀猀挀戀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 渀攀挀愀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀℀℀℀ ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䠀椀猀瀀愀渀椀挀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 椀琀ഊis out of print. You could try ILL to see if it can be borrowed. ਀ഊThis book is in print, and is very helpful in making patterns. ਀ഊJUAN DE ALCEGA'S TAILORS PATTERN BOOK 1589: Facsimile ਀䨀甀愀渀 搀攀 䄀氀挀攀最愀Ⰰ 刀甀琀栀 䈀攀愀渀 ⠀䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 愀渀搀 䘀愀猀栀椀漀渀 倀爀攀猀猀⤀ഊThis facsimile and translation will fascinate costumers. The patterns are ਀氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 氀愀礀ⴀ漀甀琀猀 昀漀爀 挀甀琀琀椀渀最 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀㨀 猀洀愀氀氀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀ഊshowing the shape of each pattern piece, with instructions. The entire ਀洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀 椀猀 猀栀漀眀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀ഊdrawings by their descriptions and instructions. Alcega showed how to make ਀搀漀甀戀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 挀氀漀愀欀猀Ⰰ 挀愀猀猀漀挀欀猀Ⰰ 洀漀爀渀椀渀最 最漀眀渀猀Ⰰ 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最漀眀渀猀Ⰰ 欀椀爀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 洀愀渀琀氀攀猀Ⰰഊbodices and skirts, and more, including a farthingale. Note: the finished ਀最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 猀栀漀眀渀⸀ ㄀㜀㜀 瀀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 猀漀昀琀ⴀ挀漀瘀攀爀⸀ ㄀㌀㔀 搀爀愀眀渀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀⸀ 匀椀稀攀㨀 㠀ഊx 11. ਀倀爀椀挀攀㨀 ␀㌀㤀⸀㤀㔀ഊ ਀䌀愀爀氀氀攀椀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 05:07:38 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀愀爀礀 䠀礀猀漀渀最 㰀氀愀搀礀洀愀爀椀 愀琀 挀礀戀攀爀琀爀愀椀氀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀℀℀℀ഊ ਀䌀愀爀漀氀 吀栀漀洀愀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> I've heard that the Hispanic Costume book is great, but as far as I know it ਀㸀 椀猀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀爀椀渀琀⸀  夀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀爀礀 䤀䰀䰀 琀漀 猀攀攀 椀昀 椀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 戀漀爀爀漀眀攀搀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀栀椀猀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 椀渀 瀀爀椀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 椀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䨀唀䄀一 䐀䔀 䄀䰀䌀䔀䜀䄀✀匀 吀䄀䤀䰀伀刀匀 倀䄀吀吀䔀刀一 䈀伀伀䬀 ㄀㔀㠀㤀㨀 ഊ ਀琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 戀漀漀欀 昀漀爀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 椀昀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 挀氀甀攀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀ഊfinished garment should look like ;-) I did discover that if you traced ਀漀昀昀 琀栀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 最椀瘀攀渀 漀渀琀漀 最爀愀瀀栀 瀀愀瀀攀爀Ⰰ ㄀　 猀最甀愀爀攀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 椀渀挀栀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀ഊblow it up so each square becomes an inch, it will pretty much give you ਀愀 昀甀氀氀 猀椀稀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 琀栀攀渀 琀愀椀氀漀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀⸀ 䤀 甀猀攀搀 琀栀攀洀ഊseveral years ago to make some things for my girls. ਀ഊMairi, Atenveldt. ਀倀匀 琀栀攀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀爀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 攀氀氀 椀猀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀椀稀攀 愀猀 愀ഊmodern meter. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀甀氀 ㈀　　　 ㄀㌀㨀㈀㐀㨀㐀㐀 䔀䐀吀ഊFrom: "Liz Rose" ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Spanish Costume!!! ਀ഊI have this book and it is fantastic (okay, mundanely I'm a professional ਀琀愀椀氀漀爀 愀渀搀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀爀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 琀栀攀 䠀漀氀礀 䜀爀愀椀氀 琀漀 洀攀⤀⸀䄀 琀椀瀀 漀渀 甀猀椀渀最 琀栀椀猀 ഊbook - read the intro and make a chart of measurements (an "L" equals, etc.) ਀愀渀搀 戀甀礀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 瀀愀瀀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 最爀愀瀀栀 瀀爀攀ⴀ瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀⸀ 䄀渀 攀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀琀 挀漀洀瀀愀渀椀漀渀 戀漀漀欀 ഊis "Patterns of Fashion" by Janet Arnold ISBN 0-333-38284-6. This will ਀攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 最椀瘀攀 愀 挀氀甀攀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 甀猀攀 ഊthe patterns in the tailor's book. ਀ഊElisabeta Rosa d'Morta ਀ഊ>JUAN DE ALCEGA'S TAILORS PATTERN BOOK 1589: Facsimile ਀㸀䨀甀愀渀 搀攀 䄀氀挀攀最愀Ⰰ 刀甀琀栀 䈀攀愀渀 ⠀䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 愀渀搀 䘀愀猀栀椀漀渀 倀爀攀猀猀⤀ഊ>This facsimile and translation will fascinate costumers. The patterns are ਀㸀氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 氀愀礀ⴀ漀甀琀猀 昀漀爀 挀甀琀琀椀渀最 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀㨀 猀洀愀氀氀 搀爀愀眀椀渀最猀ഊ>showing the shape of each pattern piece, with instructions. The entire ਀㸀洀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀 椀猀 猀栀漀眀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀ഊ>drawings by their descriptions and instructions. Alcega showed how to make ਀㸀搀漀甀戀氀攀琀猀Ⰰ 挀氀漀愀欀猀Ⰰ 挀愀猀猀漀挀欀猀Ⰰ 洀漀爀渀椀渀最 最漀眀渀猀Ⰰ 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最漀眀渀猀Ⰰ 欀椀爀琀氀攀猀Ⰰ 洀愀渀琀氀攀猀Ⰰഊ>bodices and skirts, and more, including a farthingale. Note: the finished ਀㸀最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 猀栀漀眀渀⸀ ㄀㜀㜀 瀀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 猀漀昀琀ⴀ挀漀瘀攀爀⸀ ㄀㌀㔀 搀爀愀眀渀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀⸀ 匀椀稀攀㨀 㠀ഊ>x 11. ਀㸀倀爀椀挀攀㨀 ␀㌀㤀⸀㤀㔀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:03:59 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀礀渀渀 䴀攀礀攀爀 㰀氀洀攀礀攀爀 愀琀 渀攀琀戀漀砀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀℀℀℀ഊ ਀䤀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀爀礀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀ⴀ䜀愀爀戀 氀椀猀琀 ⴀⴀ 椀渀昀漀 漀渀 栀漀眀 琀漀 猀甀戀猀挀爀椀戀攀ഊshould be in one of the two lists of SCA lists, ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最⼀猀挀愀ⴀ昀愀焀⸀栀琀洀氀⌀猀攀挀㈀⸀㄀  愀渀搀ഊhttp://lists.ansteorra.org/lists.html . ਀吀栀攀礀✀瘀攀 最椀瘀攀渀 愀 昀攀眀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最猀 愀渀搀 猀甀挀栀Ⰰഊjust recently while discussing plaids, and undoubtedly know more websites. ਀ഊIn particular: ਀ഊ _Hispanic Costume 1480 -1530_ by Ruth Matilda Anderson, ਀䤀匀䈀一 　㠀㜀㔀㌀㔀㄀㈀㘀㌀Ⰰ 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 戀礀 䠀椀猀瀀愀渀椀挀 匀漀挀椀攀琀礀 漀昀 䄀洀攀爀椀挀愀Ⰰഊalthough I too have heard it's out of print. ਀ഊThe Alcega, from 1589 plus modern material discussing it. ਀吀栀椀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 猀琀椀氀氀 戀攀 椀渀 瀀爀椀渀琀㬀 䤀 最漀琀 椀琀 愀琀 䈀愀爀渀攀猀 ☀ 一漀戀氀攀 ഊa couple years ago. ਀ഊIf you're willing to go to more trouble, there are also some ਀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 椀渀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 ⠀眀椀琀栀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀栀漀琀漀猀 漀昀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀⤀㨀ഊ ਀吀爀愀樀攀猀 礀 䴀漀搀愀猀 攀渀 氀愀 䔀猀瀀愀渀愀 搀攀 氀漀猀 刀攀礀攀猀 䌀愀琀漀氀椀挀漀猀 ⴀⴀ 䤀⸀ 䰀愀猀 䴀甀樀攀爀攀猀ഊand (ditto) -- II. Los Hombres ਀嬀眀椀琀栀 愀 琀椀氀搀攀Ⰰ 縀Ⰰ 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 渀 椀渀 䔀猀瀀愀渀愀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀渀 愀挀挀攀渀琀 洀愀爀欀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀ഊfirst o in Catolicos] ਀嬀爀漀甀最栀氀礀Ⰰ ∀䌀氀漀琀栀椀渀最 愀渀搀 䘀愀猀栀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀瀀愀椀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䌀愀琀栀漀氀椀挀 䬀椀渀最猀∀Ⰰഊthat is, Ferdinand and Isabella -- "I. The Women", "II. The Men"] ਀ഊboth by Carmen Bernis, ਀瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䄀爀琀攀猀 夀 䄀爀琀椀猀琀愀猀 猀攀爀椀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀漀 䐀椀攀最漀 嘀攀氀愀稀焀甀攀稀ⰀഊDel Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientificas, Madrid, Spain; ਀ഊ1978 for Las Mujeres, which is ISBN 84-00-03781-2 ਀㄀㤀㜀㤀 昀漀爀 䰀漀猀 䠀漀洀戀爀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀匀䈀一 㠀㐀ⴀ　　ⴀ　㐀㐀㔀㌀ⴀ㌀⸀ഊ ਀䌀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 戀礀 䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀漀 䐀椀攀最漀 嘀攀氀愀稀焀甀攀稀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀 瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀 戀礀ഊGraficas Condor, S.A., Sanchez Pacheco, 81, Madrid, Spain. ਀ഊI managed to order them directly from Spain some years ago, through ਀愀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 漀昀 愀 昀爀椀攀渀搀 眀栀漀 眀爀漀琀攀 琀栀攀 氀攀琀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 洀攀 椀渀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀⸀  匀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀渀ഊI've been told that a lot of museums can handle English, though, ਀猀漀 椀昀 琀栀攀礀✀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 椀渀 瀀爀椀渀琀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀栀攀洀 戀礀ഊsimply writing in English. ਀ഊThe same author also wrote an earlier book that I photocopied from ਀琀栀攀 唀渀椀瘀⸀ 漀昀 䌀愀氀椀昀⸀ 䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 猀漀洀攀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 椀琀 眀愀猀 ഊout of print -- I'd be delighted to buy an original if one turned up, ਀戀甀琀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 栀漀氀搀椀渀最 洀礀 戀爀攀愀琀栀 ⴀⴀഊIndumentaria Medieval Espanola [with a tilde over the n in Espanola] ਀嬀爀漀甀最栀氀礀Ⰰ ∀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 䌀氀漀琀栀椀渀最∀崀Ⰰഊby Carmen Bernis Madrazo, ਀䤀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀漀 䐀椀攀最漀 嘀攀氀愀稀焀甀攀稀ⰀഊDel Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientificas, Madrid, 1955. ਀ഊSpanish clothing is fun! If you like wearing something just a bit ਀搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀爀漀洀 漀琀栀攀爀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀氀礀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 栀愀猀ഊa wealth of choices :-) ਀ഊHalima de la Lucha, of Spanish persona myself ਀ഊP.S. There's a MedievalSpain list on eGroups your husband might enjoy. ਀ഊmodern: Lynn Meyer, Silicon Valley, northern CA, USA ਀匀䌀䄀㨀 䠀愀氀椀洀愀 搀攀 氀愀 䰀甀挀栀愀Ⰰ 䌀爀漀猀猀琀漀渀Ⰰ 䴀椀猀琀猀Ⰰ 圀攀猀琀ഊ ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀甀氀 ㈀　　　 ㈀　㨀㈀㜀㨀㐀㔀 ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: "Dr. Grace Morris" ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀ഊSubject: Re: Spanish Costume!!! ਀ഊWhat time period? ਀ഊThere are 2 books and one article in English. The Alcega is very late ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 礀漀甀爀 ∀䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀愀渀∀ 猀欀椀氀氀猀 椀渀 漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 甀猀攀ഊit. The Anderson is easier, but also covers a limited time period. I ਀栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀猀 椀渀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀⸀  一愀爀爀漀眀椀渀最ഊthings down would help. ਀ഊJessamyn di Piemonte ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ 　㜀 䴀愀礀 ㈀　　㐀 ㈀㄀㨀㌀　㨀㈀㘀 ⴀ　㜀　　ഊFrom: Lynn Meyer ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀䌀䄀ⴀ䄀匀崀 刀攀㨀 䰀椀渀欀猀㨀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀椀渀最 ⠀䰀椀猀⤀ഊTo: artssciences at lists.gallowglass.org, "Lis" ਀ഊThank you for another wonderful list of links, Dame Aoife! I really ਀攀渀樀漀礀 琀栀攀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 洀漀猀琀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 漀渀攀㨀ഊ ਀㰀栀甀最攀 猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ<<< Spain, the Early Years: ਀䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 嘀椀猀椀最漀琀栀猀Ⰰ 䴀漀稀愀爀愀戀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 一漀爀琀栀攀爀渀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀猀ഊby Maddalena Jessamyn di Piemonte Originally printed in Seams Like Old ਀吀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀猀猀甀攀 ⌀㄀㠀ഊhttp://moas.atlantia.sca.org/oak/13/spain.htm ਀⠀匀椀琀攀 䔀砀挀攀爀瀀琀⤀ 䔀愀爀氀礀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀 栀愀猀 渀漀琀 戀攀攀渀 眀椀搀攀氀礀 攀砀瀀氀漀爀攀搀㬀 琀栀攀ഊcasual browser will find little mention of this period in general sources on ਀挀漀猀琀甀洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 椀挀漀渀漀最爀愀瀀栀椀挀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀Ⰰ 漀爀 攀瘀攀渀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀ഊspecific art sources. What few reference works we have are in Spanish, and ਀琀漀 昀椀渀搀 瀀椀挀琀漀爀椀愀氀 爀攀瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀琀攀渀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀猀 愀 洀愀樀漀爀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀⸀ 吀栀攀ഊsearch, however, is worth the trouble, for what emerges is a body of unique ਀最愀爀洀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 氀愀爀最攀氀礀 甀渀欀渀漀眀渀 愀渀搀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 焀甀椀琀攀 昀漀爀攀椀最渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊrest of Western Europe. >>> ਀ഊMistress Jessamyn now has her own website about early ਀匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀Ⰰഊhttp://www.jessamynscloset.com ਀眀栀椀挀栀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 洀甀挀栀 洀漀爀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀椀猀 攀愀爀氀椀攀爀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀⸀ഊ-- including color pictures of original sources. ਀ഊHalima ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䄀爀琀攀洀椀猀椀愀∀ 㰀欀攀爀爀椀戀攀爀渀栀愀爀搀 愀琀 挀漀洀挀愀猀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最愀爀戀ഊDate: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 07:14:55 -0700 ਀ഊ"Slohan469" wrote: ਀㸀 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 猀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最愀爀戀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 漀爀 愀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 漀昀 瀀椀挀猀 漀昀ഊ> spanish garb ਀ഊMy recommendaton is a book: ਀䠀椀猀瀀愀渀椀挀 䌀漀猀琀甀洀攀 ㄀㐀㠀　 ⴀ ㄀㔀㌀　Ⰰ 戀礀 刀甀琀栀 䄀渀搀攀爀猀漀渀 䤀匀䈀一 　㠀㜀㔀㌀㔀㄀㈀㘀㌀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: bookshop at charter.net (medievalbooks) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Spanish garb ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㐀 匀攀瀀 ㈀　　㐀 ㄀㐀㨀　㤀㨀㈀㈀ ⴀ　㜀　　ഊ ਀䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 愀甀琀栀漀爀 漀渀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最愀爀戀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 氀愀挀攀 洀愀欀椀渀最 椀猀 䘀氀漀爀攀渀挀攀ഊLewis May published by the Hispanic Society in the 1930's-50's. Her ਀戀漀漀欀猀 愀爀攀 猀挀愀爀挀攀 愀猀 栀攀渀✀猀 琀攀攀琀栀 琀漀 最攀琀 栀漀氀搀 漀昀 琀栀漀⸀ഊ ਀䜀眀礀渀攀琀栀 甀椀 椀渀最攀愀渀 䴀栀愀琀栀最栀愀洀栀渀愀ഊThe Haunted Bookshop ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀氀攀瘀椀渀 愀琀 爀椀瀀挀漀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䌀爀愀椀最 䰀攀瘀椀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最愀爀戀ഊDate: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:16:05 +0000 (UTC) ਀ഊSlohan469 wrote: ਀㸀䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 猀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 最愀爀戀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 漀爀 愀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 漀昀 瀀椀挀猀 漀昀ഊ>spanish garb ਀ഊIf you're interested in the Age of Exploration, I do. Please feel ਀昀爀攀攀 琀漀 瘀椀猀椀琀 洀礀 氀椀猀琀 漀昀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀 昀漀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 戀甀椀氀搀椀渀最 䤀戀攀爀椀愀渀ഊpersonae at: ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀瀀愀最攀猀⸀爀椀瀀挀漀⸀渀攀琀⼀縀挀氀攀瘀椀渀⼀氀椀猀琀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀倀攀搀爀漀ഊ-- ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀瀀愀最攀猀⸀爀椀瀀挀漀⸀渀攀琀⼀縀挀氀攀瘀椀渀⼀椀渀搀攀砀⸀栀琀洀氀 ഊclevin at ripco.com ਀䌀爀愀椀最 䰀攀瘀椀渀ऀऀऀऀ䰀椀戀爀愀爀椀愀渀猀 刀甀氀攀㨀 伀漀漀欀℀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: "Cynthia Gee" ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Spanish garb ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ 　㌀ 伀挀琀 ㈀　　㐀 ㄀㔀㨀㄀㐀㨀　　 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䨀甀愀渀 搀攀 䄀氀挀攀最愀Ⰰ 愀 洀愀猀琀攀爀 琀愀椀氀漀爀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 最爀愀渀琀攀搀 氀椀挀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 瀀爀椀渀琀 愀 戀漀漀欀 漀昀 栀椀猀ഊpatterns, and did so in 1589. The book is currently making the rounds. You ਀挀愀渀 瘀椀攀眀 瀀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 椀琀 愀琀 㰀瘀攀爀琀攀琀猀愀戀氀攀⸀挀漀洀㸀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀ഊpurchase. ਀ഊ~Don Andrew Blake ਀ഊ ਀吀漀㨀 最氀攀愀渀渀愀戀栀愀渀渀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Hispanic Costume Book ਀倀漀猀琀攀搀 戀礀㨀 ∀䴀愀氀椀渀搀愀∀ 搀甀挀栀攀猀猀洀愀氀椀渀搀愀㈀　　㐀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀挀漀洀 搀甀挀栀攀猀猀洀愀氀椀渀搀愀㈀　　㐀ഊDate: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:08 pm ((PST)) ਀ഊI just got a book in the mail I have wanted for ages! While doing research for my book, "Daily Living In Renaissance Spain," I frequently consulted a book at U of A called "Hispanic Costume." by Ruth Anderson, printed in 1979. The Poison Pen Press obtained two boxes of this book and I was able to purchase one. ਀ഊThey still have a few more copies available if anyone is interested. It is a valuable reference not just for those interested in Renaissance Spain, but for all of Europe. The total was $31 and that was with shipping. It is a steal! ਀ഊMalinda ਀眀眀眀⸀瀀漀椀猀漀渀瀀攀渀瀀爀攀猀猀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. Harris cl-Spain-msg Page 10 of 10 ਀ഊ