cl-Hungary-msg - 5/28/02 Period clothing of Hungary. Clothing of the Magyars. NOTE: See also the files: cl-EastEur-msg, Hungary-msg, fd-Hungary-msg, fd-East-Eur-msg, Poland-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ From: "Lord Zoltan Karoli" Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Early Magyar Garb - EASY! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 04:48:45 GMT Be careful what you choose for early Magyar (pr: MOH-d'yar) garb. The resource at hunmagyar.org (link below) is for 9th c. (when the Magyars first settled in the Carpathians), and you don't want to accessorize too much. As you get into the Renaissance, you have a lot more of the Western influence, particularly Italy. If you want simple, go with 9th-12th century, definitely. Remember when constructing early garb: the early Magyars were conquerors and nomads. Cool to see there's someone out there who shares some knowledge of Magyar culture in the SCA! Gotta love the Hungarians! Fred In response to: > You might try early period Hungarian (Magyar). It consists of a > relatively short (Knee-length to calf-length) coat over a tunic and > full pants, even for the women. It is easy to construct and > relatively pleasing to the modern eye. Try the following links for > pictures: > > http://www2.4dcomm.com/millenia/Clothes.htm > http://www.hunmagyar.org/costumes/huncost2.htm > > I have seen this done "prettier" but it gives you some idea on how the > style goes. It would be practical for someone older with a cane, > since there is no long skirt to get in the way. > > Hope this helps. > > Broinnfhionn inghean ui Chathain > (not a Magyar, but married to one) From: broinnfhionn at yahoo.com (Broinnfhionn inghean Chathain) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Early Magyar Garb - EASY! Date: 30 Jul 2001 09:51:31 -0700 "Lord Zoltan Karoli" wrote > Be careful what you choose for early Magyar (pr: MOH-d'yar) garb. The > resource at hunmagyar.org (link below) is for 9th c. (when the Magyars first > settled in the Carpathians), and you don't want to accessorize too much. As > you get into the Renaissance, you have a lot more of the Western influence, > particularly Italy. If you want simple, go with 9th-12th century, > definitely. Remember when constructing early garb: the early Magyars were > conquerors and nomads. > > Cool to see there's someone out there who shares some knowledge of Magyar > culture in the SCA! > > Gotta love the Hungarians! > > Fred As a matter of fact, we have been doing a lot of recent research into Settlement-era Magyar clothing and culture for our upcoming reign. The hunmagyar link has been one of our least-used resources. THL Zsuzsy from An Tir has been tremendous help in forwarding us a copy of a book on grave finds in Hungary, and we have also been perusing the webpage of a Hungarian Settlement re-enactment group for some ideas. Our coronation garb will be 10th century Magyar, as close as we can get to authentic, although some speculation must be done. A local metalsmith has even cast for me some beautiful and near-exact replicas of the Turul eagle disks worn along the edges of the woman's coat and as braid-plates. If you are interested in seeing the final result, I would be happy to email you a picture after our Coronation, September 8. The webpage for the event can be found at: http://wyrmgeist.iwarp.com/coronation/coronation.html. There are some minor inaccuracies, but all in all, the webmaster did a pretty good job. Regards, Broinnfhionn HRH Meridies Edited by Mark S. Harris cl-Hungary-msg Page 3 of 3