pregnancy-msg - 9/3/99 Pregnancy in period. Handling it in the SCA. NOTE: See also the files: children-msg, babies-msg, teething-toys-msg, baby-gifts-msg, child-clothes-msg, clothing-MN-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: orilee at xerox.com (Orilee Ireland-Delfs) Subject: Re: Need Pennsic Info - bring camper? Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:50:58 GMT I attended Pennsic 8 1/2 months pregnant with my second child (she was born in Sept.) and lived out of our tent as usual. I made sure we had a reasonable proximation of a real bed to sleep on so I was off the ground and had some padding. A camp cot works just fine (kept me from attempting to roll onto my back which was my biggest problem : ) I did not plan on doing much and if I did leave camp it was for short periods of time (short shopping trips, etc.) Just make sure you are close to a port-a-privy for those midnight callings! Reasonably comfortable chairs and an understanding going in that you will take it easy while you are there (wait on her a lot!) Pennsic will consider she has a medical condition and be sure to note it on her registration at the Gate. You may also wish to discuss the trip with her doctor (mine wasn't keen on the idea but told me he couldn't tell me not to go). You will need to consider adding time to the trip since she shouldn't ride for more than 2 hours without getting out and walking (and add the extra potty breaks as well). The only other issues are keeping cool - lots of lightweight full garb - make sure she has plenty of liquid to drink (water and fruit juice), eats regularly, and gets plenty of sleep. I must admit that I felt the most in-persona when I was pregnant at the War! As long as she is healthy and has an uncomplicated pregnancy, she should do fine even without the camper. (I would also be prepared for the possibility of early delivery with, at least, her physician's name and phone number as well as any information on medical conditions or alergies that will affect her delivery). Good luck! Orianna Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Need Pennsic Info - bring camper? From: una at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 15:38:58 EDT cerdic at mcmi.com (david h corson) writes: > Okay, so some folks do just fine pregnant at the War, but I seem to > remember almost loosing a friend at PW 13---and the child, due to not > enough food or liquid.....Alizonde(sp) are you there to comment???? > Anyhow, Please think this through very carefully, we really do not want > to deal with a birth at the War...... > Elaina of Oaklawn, who uses a bed because at her age the floor is just > too hard to get up from, and so understands the need for one...... > Elaina, Information Officer, PW24 Respected friend: I was Pregnant at pennsic, I did get sick at Pennsic (I get sick at every Pennsic, I have a chronic illness that does that sort of thing to people)... but my pregnancy was never in any medical danger. I was hospitalized _overnight_, for _monitoring_, after catching the Pennsic Plague. I know I was back on-site the next day; I've got pictures of Amber putting a Laurel medallion around the neck of someone wearing my garb, and jewelery, and hair. (And I would _so_ love pictures of the front of me, from any source whatsoever... I think my son thinks I hatched him.) I was also at TYC, where one of the attending Royals left the site to give birth to a daughter and returned to walk in the next day's procession. Pregnancy in an otherwise-healthy adult is less dangerous under camping conditions than is medical obesity under the same circumstances. I was dehydrated due to to the flulike illness that also laid low so many fighters, cooks, jongleurs and (other) merchants. I took better care of myself than most of them did, specifically because I was pregnant, and recieved lavish attention for the same reason. Alex was born not only full-term, but at three weeks, one day _after_ his due date. (16 Oct., to be precise.) Obviously Pennsic did neither of us any lasting harm. A birth occurring while the mother was away from home would be an inconvenience, especially for her relatives who wouldn't get to harass her in the hospital as easily as they could at home. But it would be nothing more. Unless the mother was a complete mute, she would not have a chance of actually giving birth _at_ Pennsic. Somebody would call the medics in plenty of time. Please don't worry. They're planning ahead, they have plans in place, and they've got at least as good a chance of being just fine as does any of the one thousand airheaded 19-year-olds who will show up with no warm clothes and no clue. Remember, I wasn't healthy _before_ I got pregnant. And I did just fine. Yours in service to the Society- (Friend) Honour Horne-Jaruk R.S.F. Alizaunde, Demoiselle de Bregeuf C.O.L. SCA Una Wicca (That Pict) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: ojid.wbst845 at xerox.com (Orilee Ireland-Delfs) Subject: Re: Costuming and Pregnancy Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:50:47 GMT First of all, I agree with Tangwystyl - if you've never done any form of camping or even if you've camped but are new to the SCA, camping at 6-7 months pregnant is something to seriously consider not doing. I've done Pennsic for a week at 8 months, but that was with my second pregnancy and having been in the SCA for a *lot* of years. If you wish to attend 30 year, I recommend finding accomodations that are not camping (a local hotel or motel) where you can have hot and cold running water, flushing toilets, a real bed, and AIR CONDITIONING (at that stage of your pregnancy, you will need all of the above). Conversely, attend smaller events now to get a feel for what you are getting yourself in for and save big events (like xx yr celebrations) for later when you are more comfortable and know what you are in for. Garb - there have been some good suggestions. Many periods had garb that was ideally suited for pregnancy and was generally very easy to make. You will want it loose and cool. Whatever you do, be aware that it is very easy to overtire and dehydrate at events (even one day events) and it is especially easy to do when pregnant. Take it easy and don't try to do everything at once. There will be plenty of opportunities to see and do all there is to do at future events. Orianna Fridrikskona Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:47:47 -0800 From: "Crystal A. Isaac" Subject: Re: SC - very OOP & OT Excellent documentation for medieval pregancies: Rowland, Beryl, editor and translator. _Medieval Woman's Guide to Health: The First English Gynecological Handbook_. Published by Kent State University Press, Kent Ohio. 1981. ISBN 0-87338-243-9 It even has drawings of the various ways a fetus can be positioned within the womb, perhaps a precursor to ultrasound pictures? Crystal Edited by Mark S. Harris pregnancy-msg