cookg-classes-msg - 9/28/09 ਀ഊIdeas on teaching and running classes on cooking. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: AS-classes-msg, AS-food-msg, teaching-msg, AS-classes-lst, AS-ideas-msg, chd-ck-clsses-msg, p-cook-child-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:11:31 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䄀渀渀攀ⴀ䴀愀爀椀攀 刀漀甀猀猀攀愀甀∀ 㰀愀挀爀漀甀猀猀 愀琀 最琀攀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Long...How to run a cooking symposium An Tir style ਀ഊHi all from Anne-Marie ਀欀愀琀 愀猀欀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 爀甀渀渀椀渀最 愀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀礀洀瀀漀猀椀甀洀⸀ഊI have taught cooking classes, and organized symposiums, collegiums and ਀䤀琀栀爀愀 猀攀猀猀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 愀氀氀 猀椀稀攀猀 愀渀搀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀猀 ⠀椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 挀氀愀猀猀攀猀 愀琀 ㌀夀䌀⤀⸀ 䠀漀眀ഊwe do it here in An Tir may not be how you do it wherever you are, but ਀洀愀礀戀攀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最氀攀愀渀 猀漀洀攀 栀攀氀瀀昀甀氀 椀渀昀漀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀愀氀椀稀攀 琀栀愀琀ഊI tend to plan things within an inch of their lives. i don't like suprises, ਀愀渀搀 愀洀 栀愀瀀瀀椀攀猀琀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀✀猀 最漀椀渀最 漀渀⸀ഊ ਀㄀⸀ 䄀猀 愀渀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀漀爀 䤀 愀洀 栀愀瀀瀀椀攀猀琀 椀昀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 瀀氀愀渀ഊfor. This tells me how many handouts I need to have, how many recipes to ਀栀愀瘀攀 爀攀愀搀礀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 昀漀漀搀 琀漀 戀甀礀⸀ 䤀琀 愀氀猀漀 愀氀氀漀眀猀 洀攀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 戀甀搀最攀琀 愀渀搀ഊnot take it in the shorts when only three people show up for the class. ਀ഊ2. Sometimes a session is run so that there is no pre-registration, so you ਀栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 椀搀攀愀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 猀琀甀搀攀渀琀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀猀猀Ⰰ 瀀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀攀 昀攀攀猀⸀ 䄀猀ഊthe autocrate/organizer/Chancellor, can you cover an difference between ਀爀攀挀椀攀瀀琀猀 愀渀搀 挀氀愀猀 椀渀挀漀洀攀㼀 椀攀Ⰰ ∀伀䬀Ⰰ 最攀琀 猀甀瀀瀀氀椀攀猀 昀漀爀 ㄀  猀琀甀搀攀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀昀 礀漀甀 最攀琀ഊles than that, the event can eat the difference". That way the poor ਀椀猀渀琀爀甀挀琀漀爀 眀漀渀✀琀 最攀琀 猀琀甀挀欀 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀甀渀挀栀 漀昀 挀漀猀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀㌀⸀ 䌀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀 猀挀栀攀搀甀氀攀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀漀爀猀 欀渀漀眀 眀栀愀琀ഊtime is theirs. I've taught classes where I thought I had an oven, but it ਀琀甀爀渀猀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀漀愀猀琀 昀爀漀洀琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 挀氀愀猀猀 眀愀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀爀攀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀 栀愀搀 渀漀 漀瘀攀渀 愀昀琀攀爀ഊall. Make sure the instructors know that their class slot includes clean up ਀琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 氀攀昀琀 爀攀愀搀礀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 渀攀砀琀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀漀爀⸀ഊDitto with the equipment/pots/pans/etc. ਀ഊ4. Strongly encourage instructors to provide a handout. If nothing else, ਀眀椀琀栀 愀 戀椀戀氀椀漀最爀愀瀀栀礀⸀ 䤀搀攀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 愀 猀攀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀漀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 挀氀愀猀猀⸀ഊ ਀㔀⸀ 䤀搀攀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀漀爀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 爀攀猀瀀漀渀猀椀戀氀攀 昀漀爀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀椀渀最 愀氀氀 琀栀攀椀爀 漀眀渀ഊmaterials, including grocieries. You'll have enough to do. In one case, I ਀昀氀攀眀 椀渀 昀爀漀洀 匀攀愀琀琀氀攀 琀漀 琀攀愀挀栀 愀琀 愀 圀攀猀琀攀爀渀 䌀漀氀氀攀最椀甀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀漀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊevent staff (bless her heart and soul!) did my grocery shopping for me from ਀愀 瘀攀爀礀 搀攀琀愀椀氀攀搀 氀椀猀琀 ⠀䤀 最愀瘀攀 戀爀愀渀搀 渀愀洀攀猀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 挀漀甀氀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀昀 椀琀 眀愀猀 眀椀攀爀搀ഊstuff, i just stuffed it into my luggage). ਀ഊ6. I find that cooking classes work best if you have four hours. This is ਀琀椀洀攀 昀漀爀 愀 猀栀漀爀琀 氀攀挀琀甀爀攀 漀渀 栀椀猀琀漀爀礀Ⰰ 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀Ⰰ 琀椀洀攀 昀漀爀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 琀栀爀漀甀最栀ഊthe recipes together and answering questions, plenty of time for cooking ਀愀渀搀 瀀氀攀渀琀礀 漀昀 琀椀洀攀 昀漀爀 攀愀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 挀氀攀愀渀 甀瀀⸀ 䤀✀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 琀眀漀 栀漀甀爀猀Ⰰഊbut that's with already reconstructed recipes and me riding shotgun on them ਀琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀椀洀攀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 漀渀 琀爀愀挀欀Ⰰ 焀甀椀挀欀 瀀氀愀礀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 洀愀爀稀椀瀀愀渀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀ഊeating on their own lunch hour. Lecture classes can be done in any length ਀漀昀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀✀瘀攀 搀攀氀椀瘀攀爀攀搀 氀攀挀琀甀爀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㔀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 琀漀 昀漀甀爀 栀漀甀爀猀 氀漀渀最 ⠀甀最栀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㜀⸀ 䤀 栀椀最栀氀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀椀渀最 椀渀昀漀 漀渀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀猀猀攀猀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 渀攀眀氀攀琀琀攀爀Ⰰ 椀渀ഊa catelog, or something so folks can see what great classes you're offering ਀愀渀搀 栀漀瀀攀昀甀氀氀礀 挀漀洀攀⸀ 夀漀甀✀氀氀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 琀栀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀漀爀 椀猀ഊand a fascinating blurb about the class explaining why you just don't want ਀琀漀 洀椀猀猀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 伀栀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀猀猀 昀攀攀猀Ⰰ 椀昀 愀渀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀搀攀渀琀 眀椀氀氀 最攀琀ഊfor that money. ਀ഊI'm sure there's lots more I can say about this...just ask. Oh, and don't ਀昀漀爀最攀琀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 昀甀渀℀ 㨀⤀ഊ- --Anne-Marie ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㤀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀㐀㤀㨀 㤀 ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 栀攀氀瀀℀ ⴀ 䠀漀眀 琀漀 爀甀渀 愀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀礀洀瀀漀猀椀甀洀㼀ഊ ਀䬀愀琀 愀猀欀攀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀漀爀欀猀栀漀瀀猀⼀猀礀洀瀀漀猀椀愀⸀ഊ ਀㄀⸀ 伀甀爀 琀礀瀀椀挀愀氀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀漀爀欀猀栀漀瀀 椀猀㨀 眀攀 昀椀渀搀 漀甀琀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 愀爀攀 挀漀洀椀渀最Ⰰഊselect recipes, do shopping. People arrive, we hand them a stack of ਀瀀爀椀渀琀漀甀琀猀 猀愀礀椀渀最Ⰰ ∀䠀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 瀀椀挀欀 漀渀攀⸀∀  倀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀漀漀欀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰഊbeing reminded frequently to measure everything, time everything, and write ਀攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 搀漀眀渀⸀  圀栀攀渀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 椀猀 昀椀渀椀猀栀攀搀Ⰰ 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 琀愀猀琀攀猀 愀渀搀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊ(Cariadoc: "too little pepper, too much saffron!" Elizabeth: "too much ਀瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀Ⰰ 琀漀漀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 猀愀昀昀爀漀渀℀∀⤀ 圀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 搀漀渀攀 瀀氀甀猀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 最攀琀 爀攀挀漀爀搀攀搀 漀渀ഊour master; copes are made for anyone who wants one to take home and play ਀眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀 洀漀爀攀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⸀ 圀攀 漀渀挀攀 搀椀搀 愀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 猀礀洀瀀漀猀椀甀洀 愀猀 愀渀 漀昀昀椀挀椀愀氀 攀瘀攀渀琀⸀  圀攀 栀愀搀Ⰰ 愀猀 䤀ഊremember, some hands-on classes (Alys Katherine did one on sugar plate) as ਀眀攀氀氀 愀猀 氀攀挀琀甀爀攀 挀氀愀猀猀攀猀 愀渀搀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀椀漀渀猀 ⠀栀漀眀 琀漀 最爀漀眀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 昀爀甀椀琀猀 愀渀搀ഊvegetables; period Islamic cooking; how to do period food at Pennsic: three ਀搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 瀀漀椀渀琀猀 漀昀 瘀椀攀眀⤀⸀  䌀氀愀猀猀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 漀甀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀愀⼀洀甀渀搀愀渀攀 挀氀漀琀栀攀猀㬀ഊevening was in persona/in garb. We finished off with a feast by Madeleine ਀搀攀猀 䴀椀氀氀攀 刀漀猀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 愀 洀愀猀琀攀爀瀀椀攀挀攀 ⠀䤀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀 眀漀爀搀 氀椀琀攀爀愀氀氀礀⤀ⴀⴀ瘀攀爀礀ഊwell researched, menu as well as dishes, and excellent food. ਀ഊElizabeth/Betty Cook ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㜀㨀 ㌀㨀㐀㠀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䌀漀漀欀椀渀最 䌀氀愀猀猀攀猀ഊ ਀刀漀椀戀攀愀爀搀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>I've seen several references on the list about cooking classes and was ਀㸀眀漀渀搀攀爀椀渀最 眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 琀攀愀挀栀椀渀最⸀   䤀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 琀攀愀挀栀 愀 昀攀眀 挀氀愀猀猀攀猀 漀渀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀ഊ>classes but don't know where to start (i.e. period foods, spices, methods of ਀㸀挀漀漀欀椀渀最Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀 椀猀 漀甀爀 戀愀猀椀挀 漀甀琀氀椀渀攀 昀漀爀 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 漀渀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀䤀⸀ 吀栀攀 倀爀漀戀氀攀洀㨀  倀爀椀洀愀爀礀 匀漀甀爀挀攀猀ⴀⴀ昀椀渀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 爀攀愀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 爀攀搀愀挀琀椀渀最ഊ ਀椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀攀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 眀栀礀 眀攀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀琀 椀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀漀 甀猀攀 瀀爀椀洀愀爀礀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 栀漀眀ഊyou go about finding them, why you have to be careful about translations, ਀愀渀搀 栀漀眀 礀漀甀 最漀 愀戀漀甀琀 洀愀欀椀渀最 猀攀渀猀攀 漀昀 ㄀㐀琀栀 漀爀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀⸀ഊ ਀䤀䤀⸀ 刀攀搀愀挀琀椀渀最ഊ ਀椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀攀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 栀漀眀 礀漀甀 最漀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀漀爀欀椀渀最 漀甀琀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀ഊfrom our experience (especially the mistakes) and some free samples of what ਀最漀琀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 漀甀琀 琀漀 漀甀爀 猀愀琀椀猀昀愀挀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀攀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 栀漀眀 漀甀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊworkshops work. ਀ഊIII. What is out there and where ਀ഊin which we discuss what sources are available: English/French 13th-15th ਀挀⸀Ⰰ 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀Ⰰ 䜀攀爀洀愀渀Ⰰ 攀愀猀琀攀爀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀Ⰰ 䤀猀氀愀洀椀挀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 眀栀愀琀 眀攀ഊhaven't found. ਀ഊIV. Ingredients and sources : spices, gourd, murri, verjuice, sourdough ਀ഊV. Discussion and questions ਀ഊThe handout is the source list from the beginning of the Miscellany and a ਀瀀愀最攀 漀昀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀 漀昀 ㄀㐀琀栀 愀渀搀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 琀爀礀ഊto read. ਀ഊWe also teach a class on period Islamic cooking; there, we describe the ਀猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 昀椀爀猀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 最漀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 氀漀琀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀愀猀琀Ⰰ 瀀漀椀渀琀椀渀最 漀甀琀ഊwhat is characteristic in spicing, procedures, and so on. The handout for ਀琀栀愀琀 椀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀礀 氀漀琀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 䤀猀氀愀洀椀挀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 漀甀爀 眀漀爀欀攀搀ⴀ漀甀琀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀猀Ⰰഊtaken from the Miscellany. ਀ഊEach class takes about an hour talking fast. ਀ഊElizabeth/Betty Cook ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㈀㈀㨀㐀㤀㨀㔀㐀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Sharon R. Saroff" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䬀椀渀搀攀爀最愀爀搀攀渀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 ㌀爀搀ഊ ਀㸀䤀 愀洀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 栀攀氀瀀 愀 氀漀挀愀氀 猀挀栀漀漀氀 琀攀愀挀栀攀爀 漀爀最愀渀椀稀攀 猀漀洀攀 愀挀琀椀瘀椀琀椀攀猀ഊ>for her TMR class (Trainably Mentally Retarded) and have been asked to ਀㸀瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 猀漀洀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 栀漀洀攀 攀挀 琀攀愀挀栀攀爀 挀漀甀氀搀 甀猀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 猀漀洀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ഊ>snacks appropriate for people with the mental capacity of Kindergarten ਀㸀琀栀爀漀甀最栀 琀栀椀爀搀 最爀愀搀攀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀䤀 愀洀 愀琀 愀 氀漀猀猀 愀猀 琀漀 眀栀愀琀 琀漀 猀甀最最攀猀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀刀愀猀ഊ ਀䤀 琀愀甀最栀琀 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 愀 昀攀眀 礀攀愀爀猀 愀最漀⸀  䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 搀漀椀渀最 氀漀琀猀 漀昀ഊrecipes that were quite normal for anyone learning to cook. The one they ਀猀攀攀洀攀搀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 漀甀琀 漀昀 眀愀猀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 搀椀搀 愀 甀渀椀琀 漀渀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 眀愀礀猀 琀漀ഊmake things rise. I did a biscuit recipe using baking powder, a recipe ਀琀栀愀琀 甀猀攀搀 戀愀欀椀渀最 猀漀搀愀Ⰰ 愀 猀挀漀琀琀椀猀栀 昀爀甀椀琀 戀爀攀愀搀 琀栀愀琀 甀猀攀搀 㔀 攀最最猀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀ഊrise and a raisin bread recipe that used yeast. ਀ഊI also found that my students worked well as a team and taking turns. One ਀洀椀砀攀搀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀搀 琀栀攀 搀爀礀 椀渀焀爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀搀 眀攀琀Ⰰ 漀渀攀 眀愀猀栀攀搀 琀栀攀ഊdishes, one dried them, etc. There are a lot of cookbooks on the market ਀琀栀愀琀 愀爀攀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀愀氀氀礀 搀攀猀椀最渀攀搀 昀漀爀 礀漀甀渀最 挀栀椀氀搀爀攀渀⸀  䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 琀爀礀椀渀最ഊto match similar period recipes to ones in those books. ਀ഊSindara ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㄀  䘀攀戀 ㈀  㘀  㤀㨀㈀㤀㨀㄀㘀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䘀漀漀搀猀 昀漀爀 䈀攀最椀渀椀渀最 匀䌀䄀 䌀漀漀欀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊSilverR0se at aol.com wrote: ਀㸀 吀栀椀猀 挀漀洀椀渀最 䄀瀀爀椀氀 䤀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 琀攀愀挀栀椀渀最 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 椀渀 䌀愀椀搀✀猀 䌀漀氀氀攀最椀甀洀  ഊ> called "Getting Started in Historical Cooking." ਀ഊ> Renata ਀ഊYou could take the approach where you start ਀眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀琀攀爀愀爀礀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 愀 搀椀猀栀⸀ 伀爀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最ഊ'food in art' with an artwork that depicts people ਀攀愀琀椀渀最 漀爀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀椀渀最 搀椀猀栀攀猀 漀爀 昀漀漀搀猀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 愀 猀攀爀椀攀猀ഊof recipes that use the ingredient or show the dish. ਀䜀漀 昀爀漀洀 攀愀爀氀礀 琀漀 氀愀琀攀爀 漀爀 甀猀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀甀渀琀爀椀攀猀⸀ഊThrow in some dietary advice courtesy of those texts. ਀吀栀攀渀 猀栀漀眀 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀栀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀琀 最椀瘀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀甀搀椀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 漀瀀瀀漀爀琀甀渀椀琀礀 琀漀 猀攀攀 愀渀搀 最愀椀渀 猀漀洀攀ഊidea about what it is that SCA cookery and foods are all about. ਀ഊJust a suggestion, ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㄀㘀 䨀甀渀 ㈀  㠀 ㄀ 㨀㐀㐀㨀㐀㈀ ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Michael Gunter ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 挀氀愀猀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊI did my second period non-alcoholic drinks class at our ਀䬀椀渀最✀猀 䌀漀氀氀攀最攀 琀栀椀猀 眀攀攀欀攀渀搀 愀渀搀 椀琀 眀愀猀 愀 搀攀昀椀渀愀琀攀 猀甀挀挀攀猀猀⸀ഊIt was also a much better idea to do this class in the outdoor ਀䨀甀渀攀 䬀椀渀最✀猀 䌀漀氀氀攀最攀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 氀愀猀琀 漀渀攀 䤀 琀愀甀最栀琀Ⰰ ∀伀瀀攀渀 䘀椀爀攀ഊCookery". Standing all day around a couple of fires ਀椀渀 䨀甀渀攀 椀渀 䠀漀甀猀琀漀渀Ⰰ 吀堀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 洀礀 戀爀椀最栀琀攀猀琀 漀昀 椀搀攀愀猀⸀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 椀渀 挀漀漀氀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 栀漀琀 吀攀砀愀猀 猀甀洀洀攀爀ഊis much better. There were around 15 people attending the ਀挀氀愀猀猀 愀渀搀 䤀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 ㈀ 洀愀猀漀渀 樀愀爀猀 漀昀 琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀 猀礀爀甀瀀Ⰰ ㄀ 樀愀爀 漀昀ഊlemon syrup, 4 litres of small mead and 4 litres of lemon ਀戀愀爀氀攀礀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䤀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀搀 愀 氀愀爀最攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 漀昀 椀挀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 洀椀砀 ഊthe syrups with. ਀ഊI provided both small tasting dixie cups as well as larger ਀挀甀瀀猀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 愀琀琀攀渀搀攀攀猀 挀漀甀氀搀 琀愀欀攀 愀眀愀礀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 搀爀椀渀欀 漀昀ഊtheir choice after the class. ਀ഊIn addition to the lecture on how to make the drinks and others ਀琀栀愀琀 眀攀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀猀猀 渀漀琀攀猀 眀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀甀最愀爀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀琀椀漀渀Ⰰഊverjuis, water sources, sekujaban, ciders and how to make ਀瘀愀爀椀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 琀栀攀洀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 最椀瘀攀渀⸀ഊ ਀吀愀猀琀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 漀昀昀攀爀攀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀 愀氀漀渀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 洀椀砀攀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊwater. I am rather shocked that some folk enjoyed the syrups ਀戀礀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀⸀ 䴀礀 戀椀最最攀猀琀 猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀 琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀 搀爀椀渀欀⸀ ഊI've never been much of a fan of tamarind before but the ਀愀挀琀 漀昀 猀琀攀攀瀀椀渀最 琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀 瀀甀氀瀀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 洀愀欀椀渀最 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀ഊof the water creates a wonderfully refreshing drink. ਀ഊAfter the class I took the remaining drinks and syrups to the ਀眀愀琀攀爀 瀀愀瘀椀氀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 搀椀猀琀爀椀戀甀琀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊevent, all that was left was a half bottle of the small mead. ਀ഊI'm hoping that more folk see how easy it is to make a period ਀搀爀椀渀欀 昀漀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 猀琀愀爀琀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 猀漀搀愀猀Ⰰ 琀攀愀Ⰰഊgatorade and powdered lemonade. ਀ഊI've sent Stefan a copy of my class notes so they should be up ਀椀渀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀爀椀ⴀ琀栀椀渀最礀 猀漀漀渀⸀ഊ[Now in the Florilegium BEVERAGES section as: Non-Alco-Drks-art -Stefan] ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀愀渀 ㈀  㤀 ㄀㈀㨀㔀㤀㨀㌀㌀ 䔀匀吀ഊFrom: Bronwynmgn at aol.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 吀漀瀀椀挀猀 昀漀爀 䌀氀愀猀猀攀猀 昀漀爀 匀挀栀漀氀愀猀ഊTo: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org ਀ഊIn a message dated 1/18/2009 9:31:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, euriol at ptd.net ਀眀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ< ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 吀漀瀀椀挀猀 昀漀爀 䌀氀愀猀猀攀猀 昀漀爀 匀挀栀漀氀愀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊSomething I have been thinking about, but haven't been able to do, is do a two part class on redacting period recipes. This probably would be a better class for Pennsic or some other war. The first part is a lecture class giving the theories and your practical experience in redaction. The second part is dividing the class into groups, giving each group the same recipe, the same ingredients and access to a campfire, a propane stove, and cooking utensils, etc. At the end of the class, everyone presents their redaction and everyone gets to taste what was made. It could be a kind of expensive class, but you should divide the food expenses between all of the students. You can also scrounge equipment, stoves etc., from friends and groups or ask that the students bring what they can. This would give your students good, practical experience in redaction. You should be on hand to advise each group if they get stuck or have questions. ਀ഊHuette ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀愀渀 ㈀  㤀 ㄀㔀㨀㈀ 㨀㔀㈀ ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: David Friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 吀漀瀀椀挀猀 昀漀爀 䌀氀愀猀猀攀猀 昀漀爀 匀挀栀漀氀愀猀ഊTo: ahrenshav at yahoo.com, Cooks within the SCA ਀ऀ㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀圀栀愀琀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀Ⰰ 洀愀渀礀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 椀猀 愀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀漀爀欀猀栀漀瀀Ⰰ 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 椀渀 漀甀爀 ഊhome. People arrive, usually Saturday at one or so. When you arrive ਀眀攀 栀愀渀搀 礀漀甀 愀 猀琀愀挀欀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 甀渀爀攀搀愀挀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 瀀椀挀欀 漀渀攀⸀ ഊDuring the afternoon each participant makes his recipe, with advice ਀昀爀漀洀 甀猀 愀猀 渀攀攀搀攀搀Ⰰ 爀攀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 椀渀 搀攀琀愀椀氀 攀瘀攀爀礀琀栀椀渀最 栀攀 搀漀攀猀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 ഊsomething is done, everyone tries it and makes comments. ਀ഊThe idea is, first, to convince people that they really can start ਀眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 愀渀搀 攀渀搀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 ഊrecipe that is good to eat, and second to provide a start at working ਀漀甀琀 愀 戀甀渀挀栀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⸀ 倀愀爀琀椀挀椀瀀愀渀琀猀 挀愀渀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 琀愀欀攀 栀漀洀攀 愀 挀漀瀀礀 ഊof their recipe for further trial and error development. ਀ഊThere's no reason it couldn't be done at a schola, provided you were ਀眀椀氀氀椀渀最 琀漀 猀瀀攀渀搀 琀栀攀 琀栀爀攀攀 栀漀甀爀猀⬀ 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀愀欀攀⸀ഊ-- ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊwww.daviddfriedman.com ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀甀渀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䨀愀渀 ㈀  㤀 ㈀ 㨀 㘀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Euriol of Lothian" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 吀漀瀀椀挀猀 昀漀爀 䌀氀愀猀猀攀猀 昀漀爀 匀挀栀漀氀愀猀ഊTo: "'Cooks within the SCA'" ਀ഊAs I see it, the issue is more with the logistics of facilities and/or ਀攀焀甀椀瀀洀攀渀琀 愀猀 漀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 琀栀攀 猀椀琀攀✀猀 欀椀琀挀栀攀渀 椀猀 戀攀椀渀最 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀ഊ"lunch" and/or "feast" as is common at AEthelmearc's event, then trying to ਀洀愀欀攀 愀 挀氀愀猀猀 漀昀 椀琀 挀愀渀 戀攀 搀椀昀昀椀挀甀氀琀⸀ 䄀氀猀漀Ⰰ 搀攀瀀攀渀搀椀渀最 漀渀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 漀昀 礀攀愀爀Ⰰഊthe weather can make it prohibitive to do it outdoors. The temperatures were ਀椀渀 琀栀攀 渀攀最愀琀椀瘀攀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀 眀栀攀渀 䤀 眀愀猀 愀琀琀攀渀搀椀渀最 愀 渀攀愀爀戀礀 猀挀栀漀氀愀⸀ ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀 爀攀挀愀氀氀 戀攀椀渀最 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 愀琀琀攀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 眀漀爀欀猀栀漀瀀猀 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 瘀攀爀礀 洀甀挀栀ഊenjoyed and the people in my barony are interested in such a workshop here. ਀ഊEuriol ਀ഊ-----Original Message----- ਀吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 渀漀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 椀琀 挀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀琀 愀 猀挀栀漀氀愀Ⰰ 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀搀 礀漀甀 眀攀爀攀 ഊwilling to spend the three hours+ it would probably take. ਀ⴀⴀ ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀ 䨀甀氀 ㈀  㤀 ㄀㘀㨀 ㄀㨀㌀㘀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Michael Gunter ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䤀搀攀愀 昀漀爀 愀渀 䄀☀匀 䔀渀琀爀礀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊ<<< I am pondering the viability of doing a cooking demonstration as an A&S entry into the Cooking area (static, not performance) ਀ഊShould I plan this out further or just do the recipe at home and dish it out, with documentation, at the Faire? ਀ഊHelen >>> ਀ഊInstead of just cooking a dish, it would probably be part of either ਀瀀攀爀昀漀爀洀愀渀挀攀 漀爀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀攀搀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 洀愀礀戀攀 礀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 搀漀ഊa demonstration of one of the recipes that can be accurately ਀爀攀搀愀挀琀攀搀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 琀眀漀 琀漀琀愀氀氀礀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 爀攀猀甀氀琀猀⸀ 䌀漀漀欀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀ഊwhile following the instructions to the letter but using different ਀椀渀琀攀爀瀀爀攀琀愀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 昀甀渀 愀渀搀 愀渀 攀礀攀ⴀ漀瀀攀渀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 渀甀愀渀挀攀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀㰀琀栀攀 攀渀搀㸀ഊEdited by Mark S. 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