AS-events-msg - 1/12/96 A&S events in the SCA. NOTE: See also the files: 5x8-Doc-art, AS-compet-msg, AS-classes-msg, AS-classes-lst, AS-ideas-msg, AS-cont-docu-msg, AS-food-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with seperate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the orignator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: Lord Stefan li Rous mark.s.harris@motorola.com stefan@florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: kreyling@lds.loral.com (Ed Kreyling 6966) Subject: Re: On Collegiums Organization: Loral Data Systems Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 13:37:25 GMT bloodthorn@sloth.equinox.gen.nz (Jennifer Geard) writes: >Greetings from Pagan... > >Charles Toutourien asked for advice on running a collegium for his barony, >and Erik of Telemark answered: > > > The important difference between a collegium and any other event is you > > MUST have an classcrat whose entire job is organizing classes. Keep all > > the other crats as they are: autocrat, feastcrat, reservationcrat etc. > [deletia] > > The collegiums I have run almost run as a subset of the event. The > > framework of the event supports the needs of the instructors and students > > while the collegium is going on (food, crash space, entertainment or > > diversions while not in class). > >This has piqued my curiosity -- you do catered feasts with your collegia? >You have a separate person to take care of reservations? Are these kingdom >collegia, with a couple of hundred people from all over the place? (Like the >ones kingdom officers keep asking us to attend. ;-) > Most of our Trimarian events, either local or Kingdom, are weekend events at campsites. Organized feasts are usually presented to a portion of the attendees even if it is a one day event. It's just the way we are. Our usual crat crew consists of the following: Autocrat(person overall responsible for the event); Feastcrat(responsible for feeding the masses); Reservationscrat(responsible for money, reservations cabin assignments etc.); Site herald(responsible for announcements, schedule change information.) In the case of collegia we add a classcrat(responsible for organizing,supporting and monitoring classes.) > > This will free up the classcrat to concentrate on finding instructors, > > support equipment (ie power, tables, light, water, etc.), and scheduling. > >Question: what's the autocrat doing? Or is this just a scale thing? >IMExperience most of the organising is in doing the scheduling, painting >mental pictures to the people involved, and taking care of any last-minute >disasters (like being locked out of one of the rooms). Relax and improvise. >And talk to people lots. > > Pagan After deleting 60 lines of suggestions for the "classcrat" to worry about during an event I find your question interesting. In Trimaris 80% of our population is within 4 hours driving time from any Trimarian event. We routinely get 700-1000 attendees at Kingdom events and 100-200 attendees at local events. We always have alternative activities for people who are between classes or not taking classes. In my organizatiional plan the classcrat handles everyone who is in class or wants to take or teach a class. This includes scheduling, equipment support, water for instructors and students, chirurgeon coverage for combat or weapons classes, collecting class roles for the Trimarian Royal University and unplaned emergencies. The Autocrat, Feastcrat, Reservationcrat handle the support systems outside the classes. This includes, games and entertainment, sleeping arrangements, food, collection of entry fees, parking and dragon control, schedule announcement, lifeguards for the pools and unplaned emergencies. Erik. P.S. Do not limit your teaching resources just to those within your kingdom. My wife and I have travelled several times to Meridies and Atlantia to teach. Trimariis has several times reimbersed "experts" from outside the kingdom for travel expenses to come and teach at our collegiums. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Kreyling | Master Erik of Telemark O.L.,O.P. kreyling@world.lds.loral.com | Shire of Brineside Moor Sarasota,Fl. USA | Kingdom of Trimaris, SCA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: steffan@world.std.com (Steven H Mesnick) Subject: Re: Crat crap (was Re: On Collegiums) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 01:58:49 GMT Reservationocrat = Ostler Feastocrat = Chief Cook / Viander Classocrat = Rector or Dean (cf. Univ. of Carolingia) Troll = Warder (or Hallward, thanks Arval!) It's easy. All you have to do is *care* . From: DDF2@cornell.edu (David Friedman) Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Medieval University (was Re: Membership, a tangent) Date: 7 Oct 1993 14:23:01 GMT Organization: Cornell Law School > Thomas asked: > > Has anyone out there in Rialtoland ever tried to re-create a medieval > > university at an event, rather than the "standard SCA university" > > Arval mentions above. That is, an event calling itself a University > > wherein there were classes in the Trivium and Quadrivium. And Arval responded: > Carolingia did it a couple years ago; the event was organized largely by > Master Anton Winteroak. I missed it, alas, but by all reports it was quite > successful. > > Another approach might be to offer an in-persona class or two at any event. How time passes. The Carolingian University used to be a regular annual event, with in persona university type lectures and a student quarter. So far as in persona classes, Bhakail, many years ago, had a regular event called the Schola. It consisted entirely of classes taught in persona. It differed from the university in that the classes covered a range of different things that we and our personae might want to know about, and the personae were from the usual range of times and places. David/Cariadoc DDF2@Cornell.Edu Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: mfy@sli.com (Mike Yoder) Subject: SCA university classes (was Re: Membership, a tangent) Organization: Software Leverage, Inc. Arlington, Ma Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:54:18 GMT Greetings to all and especially to Angharad ver' Rhuawn, who wrote: >There are three _different_ proposals here. One is to teach courses in >the Trivium and Quadrivium; the second is to have the faculty be in >persona while they do this; the third is to have the students that way >to. > >{snip} > >The first, I think, is rather less useful, on the whole than most typical >SCA university classes. The second could be fascinating, but is rarely >done, because the teachers who _could_ do it would rather do it by >demonstration, that is, by teaching the class in persona as if it were >a medieval lecture. Since the Carolingian University demo is now done (and congratulations to a great many people for pulling it off), it may be appropriate to mention it here. We used the second approach; my talk was instructions for making a monochord, taken from Odo of Cluny's Enchiridion Musices. (To those who would otherwise ask: yes, I had a working monochord.) We used the second approach because we had no choice: many in the audience were local people who had walked in off the street and were encountering the SCA for the first time. Other talks were on Latin grammar, Arabic numbers, the Ptolemaic vs. Copernican models, and many other topics. My impression was that the audience (excepting the children) enjoyed the first batch of lectures; I was elsewhere when the second batch of lectures was held and have not yet compared notes with the other lecturers as to how well those were received. Franz Joder von Joderhuebel (Michael F. Yoder) [mfy@sli.com] Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: pazzia@world.std.com (Sue Gill and Nathan Kronenfeld) Subject: Re: SCA university classes (was Re: Membership, a tangent) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 03:14:11 GMT In article <29dej0$9e3@server.cs.vt.edu> jtn@nutter.cs.vt.edu (Terry Nutter) writes: ... >I'm left unsure whether the Carolingian classes were modern classes on how >medievals viewed/did things, or in-persona re-creations of medieval lectures, >and inquiring minds want to know :^}. Which was it? ... The idea in the Carolingian classes was that they were to be in-persona re-creations of medieval lectures. We had three mathmatical lectures, one in astronomy, one in music, one in philosphy, one in grammar, and one in rhetoric. There were lecturers from both the Paris and the Italian schools. A good number of the lectures had a few modern jokes built in, but even these were delivered in a period manner (the one that comes to mind is in a lecture expounding the evils of the newer Arabic numerals, exclaiming that no merchant would ever deal in the billions of items in stock (or somesuch), and that no duchy would ever incur a debt of four trillion ducats, therefore invalidating any advantage gained in using Arabic numerals for these higher numbers, rather than Roman numerals). On the other hand, five or six out of the eight lectures did not even do this. All in all, I thought it was a job well done (then again, I may be biased). Daniele di Padola Currently in Carolingia, East Kingdom Nathan Kronenfeld pazzia@world.std.com From: Monica.Cellio@NL.CS.CMU.EDU Date: 10/8/93 To: Mark Harris Here's the Pikestaff announcement. They didn't send me a class list (probably knowing that we don't have room to print those in general), but I assume that if you contact the autocrat she could send you one. I'm glad you enjoyed the A&S issues! Watch the Rialto in late November/ early December for information on getting the next one. Ellisif @event(date="October 10", group="Carolingia", name="University of Carolingia") Class is back in session at the University of Carolingia. The tradition of an open-to-the-public demo, based on a medieval univerity and town, continues. The event will take place Sunday October 10, 1993 from 10am to 5pm at Sanders Theatre and Memorial Hall on the campus of Harvard Univerity. The Harvard-Radcliffe SCA are co-sponsoring the event. There will be short classes taught by illustrious members of the faculty of the University of Carolingia on subjects that were taught to students in period. The student quarter will be bustling with merchants selling their wares, guild artisans plying their crafts, and performances and demos by Carolingia's dancers, mucicians, and fighters. Mistress Elayne Courtenay is the autocrat. She can be reached via the Carolingian Hotline at 617-666-5673 (10am to 10pm only), where you can get her new telephone number. There are no advanced reservations, the site fee is $4 at the door. Unfortunately we cannot accept merchants at the door due to mundane permitting. There will be no feast, but food is available locally throughout Harvard Square. There will be room to change into garb, but please be advised not to leave valuables unattended with the large number of the public expected. Since this is a public demo and Massachusetts has strict laws concerning live steel, no live steel at the demo. Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: hwt@bcarh11a.bnr.ca (Henry Troup) Subject: Re: On Collegiums Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 13:51:35 GMT We tend to have a winter event called a Practicum - the emphasis being on doing rather than theory. We often bring in a distinguished guest, such as His Grace Cariadoc, or Mistress Briganza, or (Arch-)Duke Paul of Bellatrix. We don't have a feast - it takes too many people away from attending or teaching. The day and classes are modern dress or costume optional; after dinner (we prepare a list of restaurants) we have a revel with desserts. We usually "lose" $300-$500 Canadian on this, the barony absorbs the costs of airfare for our guests. -- Henry Troup - H.Troup@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions From: ansteorra@eden.com (5/24/95) To: ansteorra@eden.com RE>Early Percussion Instrum > If someone can speak authoritatively on a period subject, and is not > an SCA member, do we invite them to speak? Mooneschadowe has brought in non SCA speakers to teach a variety of A&S classes, everything from "Period Musical Instruments" to "the Poetic Edda", to "Herbalism", to "How the Plague Led to the Renaissance" (or something along those lines.... it was a very interesting class). I've heard that some of our members are scheming to bring in a professor to assist in translating some of the Latin in the period music they've been learning... We've found that there are people on and off campus who love sharing their esoteric interests. Often they're thrilled to be invited to do a short class for people who are genuinely interesed in what they've got to say. If you can find them, use them, I say. Some of our best A&S meetings have revolved around non SCA guest speakers. Gunhilda Shire of Mooneschadowe Stillwater, OK Newsgroups: rec.org.sca From: ojid.wbst845@xerox.com (Orilee Ireland-Delfs) Subject: Re: Educational Mission and SCA Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 16:27:03 GMT The Barony of Thescorre (Rochester NY, P. of AEthelmearc, K. of the East) doesn't often rely on local mundane experts, we did just this week have a totally neat presentation by a woman from the Braddock Bay Raptor Research Center on raptors - she brought a red tail hawk, a Harris hawk, a turkey vulture and a barn owl to show us and talked about their eating habits, nesting habits, and such like that. It was fascinating! I'm hoping we can find a local falconer who can come a give a similar talk. I'm sure if folks started looking, they can find local experts in a variety of fields to come and talk with them - it also helps build the reputation of the SCA in the community and starts a networking process that allows us access to other resources. As another example, a couple of our members discovered the Garden Center in Rochester, a local non-profit "garden club". They are based out of a former residence that was built to look like a castle (!) Their horticulture library is extensive, and they have some beautiful gardens and grounds around the building. We now cater their Yule dinner (in exchange for half the profits), and use of the Castle for our social meetings (we just had the raptor presentation on the lawn). Orianna From: IVANOR@delphi.com Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Educational Mission and SCA Date: 11 Jun 1995 02:09:53 GMT Our Barony actually has a Speakers Fund, intended to be used for stipends for visiting lecturers from RL Academia, as well as assisting experts from far away to come to our events to teach. Carolyn Boselli Host of Custom Forum 35 SCAdians on Delphi Ive Annor M'Quhairr of Sighty Crag, AoA, Sen. Canton Dragon Forge, EK Edited by Mark S. Harris AS-events-msg