trash-storage-msg - 12/25/19

Useful ideas on storing trash in camp.

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From: myrindyl at aol.com (Michelle Picou)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: 11 Oct 2000 03:39:49 GMT

On October 10, 2000, Lady Tamara wrote:
>Where do you put your trash at events?

This depends.  Container type trash that comes out of the cooler with
food/drink in it usually goes back into the cooler if we are away from our
encampment.  Once we get back to camp, it goes into a trash bag.

>Do you store it in your tent?

Usually, the only trash in our tent is packaging for things that we purchased
for the event (like the wrapper off a new propane bottle).  These things get
stored in an plastice grocery bag until the event is over.

>How do you
>keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside? How do you hide it?

We have wooden picnic tables at out usual event site.  What we usually do is
tie a knot in a trash bag and hang it from the underside of the table.  Failing
this, my husband and I have been known to wrap a bungee cord around a tree and
hang the bag from this.  The way we hide it is to develop selective blindness. 
Suspending the bag off the ground keeps ants and such out of it, but we have no
deterrent for airborne bugs.

>I have an idea for hiding an outside door "trash can"

Please share, I would love to hear it!

Lady Birgitta
Kingdom of Ansteorra
Barony Bordermarch


From: nospam at drakkar.org (nospam)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: hiding the trash can
Organization: Fidonet: Druid's Grove BBS - (914)/876-2237 
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:04:21 GMT

pdruss at aol.com wrote in a message to All:
 pa> I posted this question on my local kingdom list. I'm sad to say, no
 pa> one answered. I hate to think that folks in my kingdom just toss
 pa> their trash in the woods.

 pa> Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your
 pa> tent? How do you keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside?
 pa> How do you hide it? I have an 

 pa> idea for hiding an outside door "trash can" but would like more
 pa> info from  other people. 

That depends on whether the event has garbage service or is at a carry out
site. At Pennsic for example, the dumpsters are emptied daily, likewise our
trash is taken to the dumpsters daily (or more often). We usually use a wicker
basket that holds a small trashbag in it. Any more than that and the camp would
start to smell. 

Haraldr Bassi, Frosted Hills, East


From: David Friedman <ddfr at best.com>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:41:45 GMT

The system we use at Pennsic is a large black cloth bag, with a plastic 
garbage bag inside it. The outer bag is hung from a tree branch, or 
stuck somewhere unobtrusive.
-- 
David/Cariadoc
http://www.best.com/~ddfr/Medieval/Medieval.html


From: "Roy C. Everest" <everest at incentre.net>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:18:54 -0600

After many years of using just green garbage bags our household decided to
improve its garbage can.  As we travel a long distance to most of our events
we needed something that would pack down small.  We now use a canvas "tube"
that is open on the top and bottom.  It is given some rigidity by some
plastic (we use an old "Krazy Karpet Snow Sled") so that it stands upright.
We then line the inside with a normal garbage bag.  An old buckler (that
we've taken out of service as it is no longer fit for combat) acts as the
lid.

The advantage to this system is mainly that it packs flat for travel.  It
also keeps your garbage upright so that the bag isn't continually falling
over.

We store it outside of our tent mainly as we don't want to attract bugs.
But to avoid bugs and smell, take the trash to the main site dump area
frequently.  We take out the trash at least daily.

The system works well enough for us, and we're thinking about adding a
second bin for recylables.

Jack Silver


From: gunnora at my-deja.com
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:41:48 GMT

Tamara asked:
> Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your tent?
> How do you keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside? How do
> you hide it?

I have a wicker basket with a matching wicker lid. We place a plastic
garbage bag inside and never have problems with it.  It's usually set
up behind the tent or off to the side of the camping area out of the
way.

::GUNNORA::


From: oakes at login1.cig.mot.com (Ronald B. Oakes {ROAKES1})
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: 11 Oct 2000 18:35:33 GMT
Organization: Motorola CIG

On 11 Oct 2000 01:37:31 GMT, P D RUSS wrote:
>Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your tent? 

With the possible exception of the packaging for non-food items, NEVER EVER
store trash, or food for that matter, in your tent or other sleeping area.

Bugs are the least of what you might attract.  Even the most urban of
camp-able areas will probably have resident squirrels, mice and rats who,
unfortunately, can spread illnesses.  (The Black Death, or Plague as it is now
known, was a period problem -- but it should be avoided in the SCA :-)

Slightly more rural areas, and probably
most urban areas, also have raccoons, who add an element of danger since
they can scratch and bite viciously if threatened.  In areas frequented by
mundane campers, bears may be a problem, and they have been known to put
people in the hospital or even kill them.

Ronald of the Oakes
(Sounding like the former Scoutmaster he is :-)


From: Heather Rose Jones <hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:35:34 +0800
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

P D RUSS wrote:
>Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your tent? How do you
>keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside? How do you hide it? 

In my camp, we keep a regular drawstring-top trash bag handy during the
event and then leave it in (or beside -- depending on instructions) the
site dumpster on the way out.  Rarely -- if the site has particular
problems with critters -- we dumpster the trash every night.  (One site
had problems with feral pigs -- not something you want rummaging around
in your kitchen at night.)  Bugs ... well, bugs are bugs.  Keeping the
trash bag closed helps some, and if it's hanging in mid-air rather than
on the ground you avoid ants.  In my experience, bugs are much more of a
problem with the food you're in the middle of eating than with the trash.

Tangwystyl
*********
Heather Rose Jones
hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu
*********


From: pdruss at aol.com (P D RUSS)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: hiding the trash can
Date: 12 Oct 2000 03:18:04 GMT

>>I have an idea for hiding an outside door >"trash can">>>
>Please share, I would love to hear it!

My idea isn't period. Just something I thought up.

For the last event we bought a pop-up clothes hamper for dirty clothes. It was
so great to not to have to bend over to pick up a clothes bag and cramp the
dirty clothes inside it. I thought I would buy a second one to hold to put
outside & hold a trash bag. Naturally I would throw the trash away on a daily
basis to keep out the bugs.

Walmart has them for about $7. They are free standing & come folded flat and
"pop-up" to a height of about 22" by 15" square. When you are done they fold
flat again to about a 1" high by about a 6" circle. 

I've tested the new "trash can" around the house and the plastic bag inside the
hamper does stay up without an extra securing band (ie: bungie cord) but it
looks very modern. So I thought I would make a cover with a slit in the top, to
drop the trash through. 

How to decorate the cover has been my problem. I can do a dark brown and hope
it blends with the woods around the camp. Or maybe something bright and
heraldic looking. I doubt there is anything in history to correspond with a
modern street corner trash can. 

Tamara


From the fb "Better SCA Camping" group:
Maire Nic Shiobhan
February 21 at 8:37pm
Fun question; what SCA camping item do you still really want but that you don't yet have?

Duvessa Of-Movilla 
A trash can with a lid.
2/22/17 at 1:19am

Kay Tracy 
try a wicker hamper,



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