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Useful ideas on storing trash in camp.

 

NOTE: See also the files: camp-kitchens-msg, camp-showers-msg, firepits-msg, camp-ovens-msg, cld-weath-cmp-msg, Sheetwalls-art, ticks-art.

 

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From: myrindyl at aol.com (Michelle Picou)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: 11 Oct 2000 03:39:49 GMT

 

On October 10, 2000, Lady Tamara wrote:

>Where do you put your trash at events?

 

This depends. Container type trash that comes out of the cooler with

food/drink in it usually goes back into the cooler if we are away from our

encampment.  Once we get back to camp, it goes into a trash bag.

 

>Do you store it in your tent?

 

Usually, the only trash in our tent is packaging for things that we purchased

for the event (like the wrapper off a new propane bottle).  These things get

stored in an plastice grocery bag until the event is over.

 

>How do you

>keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside? How do you hide it?

 

We have wooden picnic tables at out usual event site.  What we usually do is

tie a knot in a trash bag and hang it from the underside of the table.  Failing

this, my husband and I have been known to wrap a bungee cord around a tree and

hang the bag from this. The way we hide it is to develop selective blindness.

Suspending the bag off the ground keeps ants and such out of it, but we have no

deterrent for airborne bugs.

 

>I have an idea for hiding an outside door "trash can"

 

Please share, I would love to hear it!

 

Lady Birgitta

Kingdom of Ansteorra

Barony Bordermarch

 

 

From: nospam at drakkar.org (nospam)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: hiding the trash can

Organization: Fidonet: Druid's Grove BBS - (914)/876-2237

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:04:21 GMT

 

pdruss at aol.com wrote in a message to All:

pa> I posted this question on my local kingdom list. I'm sad to say, no

pa> one answered. I hate to think that folks in my kingdom just toss

pa> their trash in the woods.

 

pa> Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your

pa> tent? How do you keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside?

pa> How do you hide it? I have an

 

pa> idea for hiding an outside door "trash can" but would like more

pa> info from other people.

 

That depends on whether the event has garbage service or is at a carry out

site. At Pennsic for example, the dumpsters are emptied daily, likewise our

trash is taken to the dumpsters daily (or more often). We usually use a wicker

basket that holds a small trashbag in it. Any more than that and the camp would

start to smell.

 

Haraldr Bassi, Frosted Hills, East

 

 

From: David Friedman <ddfr at best.com>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:41:45 GMT

 

The system we use at Pennsic is a large black cloth bag, with a plastic

garbage bag inside it. The outer bag is hung from a tree branch, or

stuck somewhere unobtrusive.

--

David/Cariadoc

http://www.best.com/~ddfr/Medieval/Medieval.html

 

 

From: "Roy C. Everest" <everest at incentre.net>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:18:54 -0600

 

After many years of using just green garbage bags our household decided to

improve its garbage can.  As we travel a long distance to most of our events

we needed something that would pack down small.  We now use a canvas "tube"

that is open on the top and bottom.  It is given some rigidity by some

plastic (we use an old "Krazy Karpet Snow Sled") so that it stands upright.

We then line the inside with a normal garbage bag.  An old buckler (that

we've taken out of service as it is no longer fit for combat) acts as the

lid.

 

The advantage to this system is mainly that it packs flat for travel.  It

also keeps your garbage upright so that the bag isn't continually falling

over.

 

We store it outside of our tent mainly as we don't want to attract bugs.

But to avoid bugs and smell, take the trash to the main site dump area

frequently.  We take out the trash at least daily.

 

The system works well enough for us, and we're thinking about adding a

second bin for recylables.

 

Jack Silver

 

 

From: gunnora at my-deja.com

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:41:48 GMT

 

Tamara asked:

> Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your tent?

> How do you keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside? How do

> you hide it?

 

I have a wicker basket with a matching wicker lid. We place a plastic

garbage bag inside and never have problems with it.  It's usually set

up behind the tent or off to the side of the camping area out of the

way.

 

::GUNNORA::

 

 

From: oakes at login1.cig.mot.com (Ronald B. Oakes {ROAKES1})

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: 11 Oct 2000 18:35:33 GMT

Organization: Motorola CIG

 

On 11 Oct 2000 01:37:31 GMT, P D RUSS wrote:

>Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your tent?

 

With the possible exception of the packaging for non-food items, NEVER EVER

store trash, or food for that matter, in your tent or other sleeping area.

 

Bugs are the least of what you might attract.  Even the most urban of

camp-able areas will probably have resident squirrels, mice and rats who,

unfortunately, can spread illnesses.  (The Black Death, or Plague as it is now

known, was a period problem -- but it should be avoided in the SCA :-)

 

Slightly more rural areas, and probably

most urban areas, also have raccoons, who add an element of danger since

they can scratch and bite viciously if threatened.  In areas frequented by

mundane campers, bears may be a problem, and they have been known to put

people in the hospital or even kill them.

 

Ronald of the Oakes

(Sounding like the former Scoutmaster he is :-)

 

 

From: Heather Rose Jones <hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu>

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:35:34 +0800

Organization: University of California at Berkeley

 

P D RUSS wrote:

>Where do you put your trash at events? Do you store it in your tent? How do you

>keep the bugs out of it? Do you store it outside? How do you hide it?

 

In my camp, we keep a regular drawstring-top trash bag handy during the

event and then leave it in (or beside -- depending on instructions) the

site dumpster on the way out.  Rarely -- if the site has particular

problems with critters -- we dumpster the trash every night.  (One site

had problems with feral pigs -- not something you want rummaging around

in your kitchen at night.)  Bugs ... well, bugs are bugs.  Keeping the

trash bag closed helps some, and if it's hanging in mid-air rather than

on the ground you avoid ants.  In my experience, bugs are much more of a

problem with the food you're in the middle of eating than with the trash.

 

Tangwystyl

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Heather Rose Jones

hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu

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From: pdruss at aol.com (P D RUSS)

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca

Subject: Re: hiding the trash can

Date: 12 Oct 2000 03:18:04 GMT

 

>>I have an idea for hiding an outside door >"trash can">>>

>Please share, I would love to hear it!

 

My idea isn't period. Just something I thought up.

 

For the last event we bought a pop-up clothes hamper for dirty clothes. It was

so great to not to have to bend over to pick up a clothes bag and cramp the

dirty clothes inside it. I thought I would buy a second one to hold to put

outside & hold a trash bag. Naturally I would throw the trash away on a daily

basis to keep out the bugs.

 

Walmart has them for about $7. They are free standing & come folded flat and

"pop-up" to a height of about 22" by 15" square. When you are done they fold

flat again to about a 1" high by about a 6" circle.

 

I've tested the new "trash can" around the house and the plastic bag inside the

hamper does stay up without an extra securing band (ie: bungie cord) but it

looks very modern. So I thought I would make a cover with a slit in the top, to

drop the trash through.

 

How to decorate the cover has been my problem. I can do a dark brown and hope

it blends with the woods around the camp. Or maybe something bright and

heraldic looking. I doubt there is anything in history to correspond with a

modern street corner trash can.

 

Tamara

 

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