meadery-list-msg - 12/1/18 Lists and reviews of commercial meaderies (places brewing mead) around the world. NOTE: See also the files: mead-msg, Mead-Mkng-Tps-art, wine-msg, beer-msg, brewing-msg, honey-msg, cider-msg, Ale-a-Beer-lnks. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 10:11:09 -0400 From: renfrow at skylands.net (Cindy Renfrow) Subject: SC - Mead Lover's Digest #689, 3 August 1998 Hello! Thought y'all might be interested in this. Cindy >From: mead-request at talisman.com >Subject: Re: Commercial Meaderies >From: Dan McFeeley >Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:41:46 -0500 > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, in MLD 688, Alex (Sparrow) queried: > >>A friend recently asked if there were any commercial meaderies in the >>US. I know that I have seen a list posted here a while back, but can't >>seem to find it in any of my files. Would anyone out there know where I >>could find a copy of that list out on the net? > >This is the corrected and revised directory of Meaderies which I posted a >few MLD's back. The original listing was taken from the August 1996 issue >of _Inside Mead_ and has been substantially updated, thanks to Jim Brangan >who was kind enough to provide the notes from his own meadery research. >Also thanks to Steve Holat, Bruce Morrison and Bruce Stevens for their help. >If anyone sees any need for further revision or has other meaderies that >need to be added to the list, let me know by private e-mail and I'll make >the needed corrections/additions. As always, none of the below is intended >as an endorsement. > >Dan McFeeley >mcfeeley at keynet.net > >- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MEADERY DIRECTORY > April 1, 1998 > > >UNITED STATES > > >Anderson's Orchard & Winery Bell Arbre Winery >430 E. US Hwy Ken Buckner >Valpariso, IN 46383 3204 116th Ave NE >(219) 464-4936 Bellevue, WA 98004 > (800) 313-2794 > (206) 827-7689 > >White Winter Winery Linganore Winecellars >402 South George St 13601 Glissens Mill Rd >PO Box 636 Mt. Airy, MD 21771-8595 >Iron River, WI 54847 (310)831-5889 >Toll Free: 800-697-2006 (410) 795-6432 >(715) 372-5656 www.linganore-wine.com >email: goodmead at win.bright.net > >Spurgeon Vineyards & Winery Camas Winery >Rt 1 110 S. Main St. >Box 201 Highland, WI 53543 Moscow, ID 83843 >(608) 929-7692 > >Labeille Honey Winery Chatham Winery >638 So. Main St. Rt 28 >Stowe, VT 05672 The Cornfield >(802) 253-2929 Chatham, MA 02633 >email: blachere at together.net (508) 945-0300 > >ADK Productions, Inc. Alaskan Mead Co. >Daniel Kassa David Snow/James Jensen >5645Q General Washington Drive 5915 Lake Otis Pkwy >Alexandria, VA 22312 Anchorage, AK 99507 >703-750-1056 (Did not respond to mail; >800-967-9957 not listed in phone book.) > >"As You Like It" Meadery Bargetto Winery >362-370 Main St Paul Woffard, Winemaker >Fitchburg, MA 01420 3535 N. Main St. >(508) 345-6407 Soquel, CA 95073 > (408) 475-2258 > >Berrywine Plantation Betterbee Meadery >Lucille Aellen Wayne Thygesen >13601 Glissan's Mill Rd Bob Stevens >Mt. Airy, MD 21771-8599 RR 4 Box 4070, Meader Rd >301-831-5889 Greenwich, NY 12834 > 1-800-MEADERY > >Earle Winery Coventree Meadery >John & Esther Earle John Zeron >Rd 1, Box 246 29 Askirk Pl >Tucker Hill Rd Newark, DE 19702-6000 >Locke, NY 13092 302-832-0437 >607-898-3012 www.grovenet.com/coventree > email: coventree at grovenet.com > > >Fred's Mead Company Honeymoon Meadery >Fred Buhl Patti Williams & Thomas Swetland >3009 SW Archer Rd #E8 43 Conistown Rd #2 >Gainesville, FL 32608-1875 Roslindale, MA 02131 >(352) 377-3376 (617)769-7607 > >HoneyRun Honey Co Inn Wines >John & Amy Hasle Dick Phaneuf >Box 3172 4 Elm St >Chico, CA, 95928 Hatfield, MA 01038-9708 >916-345-6405 (413) 247-5175 >www.des-chico.com/~honeyrun >email: honeyrun at honeyrun.com > >Lakewood Vineyards Life Force Honey & Winery >Christopher Stamp 1193 Saddle Ridge Rd >4024 SR 14 Moscow, ID 83843 >Watkins Glen, NY 14891 208-882-9158 >607-535-9252 800-497-8258 >email: LVwinery at aol.com www.evs.com/lifeforc/lfhome.html > >Little Hungary Farm Winery Mountain Meadows Mead >Frank Androczi Ron Lunder >Rt 6, POB 323 12 Third Street >Buckhannon, WV 26201 Westwood, CA 96137 >304-472-6634 916-256-3233 > >Oliver Winery Pirtle's Weston Vineyards >Bill & Kathleen Oliver Elbert & Trisha Pirtle >8024 Hwy 37 502 Spring St, PO Box 247 >Bloomington, IN Weston, MO 64098 >812-876-5800 816-640-5728 >email:woliver at kiva.net email: patriciapirtle at sprintmail.com > >Rocky Mountain Meadery Volcano Winery >Fred & Connie Strothman PO Box 843 >3701 G Rd Volcano, HI 96785 >Palisade, CO 81526 808-967-7479 >970-464-7899 >www.wic.net/meadery > >Cuthills Vineyards Bartlett Maine Estate Winery >Ed Swanson RR1, Box 598 >RR2, Box 210 Gouldsboro,ME 04607 >Pierce, NE 68767 (207) 546-2408 >(402) 329-6774 > >Cask & Hive Winery >PO Box 275 >155 Norris Hill Rd. >Monmouth ,ME 04259 >(207) 933-WINE > > >CANADA > >Le Rucher Bernard Bee Bec Ferme apicole Desrochers D >& Assoc des hydromeliers du Marie-Claude Dupuis & >Que'bec Claude Desrocher >Diane Rice & Bernard Blache're 113, ran 2 Gravel >152, rue Principale Ferme Neuve, Qc >Beebe Plain, Qc CANADA J0W 1C0 >CANADA J0B 1 E0 819-587-3471 >819-876-2800 > >Intermiel London Winery >Christian & Viviane Macle 540 Wharncliffe Rd, S >10291, chemin La Fresnie're London, ON >St-Benoit (Mirabel), Qc CANADA N6J 2N5 >CANADA J0N 1K0 519-686-8431 >514-258-2713 > >Muse'e de l'Abeille & Les Vins Mustier Gerzer >Les Ruchers Promiel, Inc Ge'rald He'naul >8862, Blvd Ste-Anne 3299, route 209 >Chateau-Richer, Qc St-Antoine Abbe, Qc >CANADA G0A N0 CANADA J0S 1E0 >(418) 824-4411 (514) 826-4609 > >Les Entreprises Prince- Rucher Les Saules >Leclerc Patrick & Ste'phane Vanier >239, chemin Haut de la 27, chemin Saxby Nord >Paroisse Saxby Corner, Granby, Qc >St-Agapit, Qc CANADA J2G 8C7 >CANADA G0S 1Z0 514-372-3403 >418-888-3323 > >Rucher Tete en Fleurs >CP 222 >St Anaclet, Qc >CANADA, G0K 1HO > > >UK IRELAND > >Palace Meade Bunratty Mead >Hatfield, UK County Bunratty > > >SCOTLAND Ty Brethyn Meadery > Llangollen, >Highland Wineries Clwd >Moniac Castle North Wales >Inverness www.data-wales.co.uk > > >FRANCE COSTA RICA > >JC Daval La Abejita Ltd >P Gouedard Apartado Postal 783Frederico Alvarodo >A Lozachmeur 1100 Tibas, COSTA RICA >B Lancelot >(no addresses available) > > >AUSTRALIA > >Bartholomew's Meadery Mount Vincent Mead >RMB 1067A South Coast Hwy Jane Nevell >Denmark 6333 Common Road >WESTERN AUSTRALIA Mudgee, NSW 2850 >098 40 9349 AUSTRALIA > > >NEW ZEALAND > > Havill's Mazer Mead >Benrose Estate Wines Leon Havill >Box 9804 Plasketts Rd, Fernside >Wellington Rangiora Rd 1 >NEW ZEALAND NEW ZEALAND >Fax 64-4-5651056 >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/usersdirs/smarts/public_html/valhalla/aboutbem.html > > >LITHUANIA > >Lietuviskas Midus >Traku gatve 9 >Stakliskes >Prienu raj. >Lietuva (Lithuania) > >Lietuviskas midus means "Lithuanian mead", Traku gatve means "Trakai >street", Stakliskes is the town, and Prienu raj. means "Prienai Region". > > >also from Bruce Stevens . . . > >>Lastly there is also a meadery in VT now run by Bernard Blachere and >>Diane Rice of Le Rucher BBB etc in QC called L'Abeille. It's on Rt 100 >>in Stowe Village Vt just before the Mt Mansfield Canoe Co as you come >>into town can't find the address at present but ........add em to the >>list and we'll be up to speed as far as I know. > From: Syndee B Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Looking For Mead Source For NJ Wedding Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:48:32 -0700 Eileen Smith wrote: > I am looking for a yum meader out there who can supply our Oct.31,98 > New Jersey wedding with this drink of the God's. At least enough for a > toast for about 100 people. > > Eileen > http://www.whiterosepath.com Two places that I would try are Rocky Mountain Meadery http://www.wic.net/cpa/mead/ and White Winter Winery. http://www.whitewinter.com/ I've got an order placed with white winter and have had several people reccomend them to me. I've also had others reccommend rocky mountain. -- Syndee From: georg Newsgroups: rec.org.sca Subject: Re: Looking For Mead Source For NJ Wedding Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:30:44 -0400 Eileen Smith wrote: > I am looking for a yum meader out there who can supply our Oct.31,98 > New Jersey wedding with this drink of the God's. At least enough for a > toast for about 100 people. Another option, Earle Estates Meadery 3586 Route 14 Himrod, NY 14842 Phone: 607.243.9011 FAX: 607.898.5709 E-mail Address: earle at lightlink.com Internet Address: http://www.meadery.com -georg non ani sunt permittendi Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:21:13 -0700 (MST) From: grasse at mscd.edu Subject: Re: SC - mead Here in Colorado we have the Rocky Mountain Meadery (sp?) sorry no web site - - I looked. They brew great mead and sell commercially. Most of theirs are named after the Arthurian folks (Arthur is a bit dry, Gwenevere is sweet...) but they also make fruit meads that I adore. The local liquor stores carry their product, don't know if you can find them in the east... but if you can get some. I dont know if they can ship product, but here is contact information. Rocky Mountain Meadery 3701 G Rd Palisade, CO 81526-8614 970-464-7899 Gwen-Cat Caerthe Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:10:34 +1030 From: miche at merlin.net.au (Michelle) Subject: SC - Re: Commercial Mead - Australia In Australia I'd like to add Maxwell's mead to the list. Made in McLaren Vale in South Australia, Maxwells' Winery has one wall which had been turned into a glass-fronted hive so you can actually see them at work :) But they make three meads, plain, spiced and liquer. Michelle Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:51:46 +1100 From: "Phillippa Venn-Brown" Subject: Re: SC - Re: Commercial Mead - Australia > In Australia I'd like to add Maxwell's mead to the list. > Made in McLaren Vale in South Australia, Maxwells' Winery has one wall > which had been turned into a glass-fronted hive so you can actually see > them at work :) > > But they make three meads, plain, spiced and liquer. > >Michelle Further to Australian Mead (Commercial) The Maxwell's mead is the one Berengaria mentioned a few days ago but couldn't remember the name of. I would like to add a couple of personal favourites. Up in the granite belt in northern New South Wales is a town called Stanthorpe. It contains many vineyards, one of which is the "Old Castle" winery. The winemaker there produces a liqueur mead which is to die for. If you are eager to try it find someone coming over from east coast Lochac (Armidale, Brisbane between those areas) and chat them up to see if they will provide/bring a bottle over for you. the other meadery is "Taverner's" and is in Tasmania, about an hour from Hobart (Ynys Fawr). They produce a range of meads including Good Ale mead (as the name implies an ale that is honey based) Lots of bubbles and a very refreshing drop. They also produce a method champagnoise style which is very light and fruity as well as the run of the mill flat sweet, dry, spiced and liqueur variations. If you can find them give them a try. In the UK there is also a producer (or used to be) that specialised in meads and 'country wines' e.g. elderberry, dandelion, borage, peach, strawberry etc. They are called Merrydown and are from around Hastings in Sussex. As they exported to 'the colonies' (i.e. Australia) they may also be available in the U.S. Happy hunting and imbibing Filippa Ginevra. From: Sandy.Woodhouse at ec.gc.ca To: ldegraff at telusplanet.net Cc: stefan at florilegium.org Subject: Canadian Mead Source Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:55:35 -0500 Greetings unto the gentle searching for a source of Mead in Canada; I suggest you go to your local liquor board (one that sells vintages) and request that they order (if they don't already carry it)Moniac Mead. This is a mead brewed in Scotland and imported to Canada. It is made from heather and thistle honey and is absolutely wonderful! It runs about $18-$20/L. I purchase it at the LCBO in Ontario. I am assuming that your liquor store can order it just as easily but I am afraid I don't have the ID number for it. Good luck in your search. Seonag nicThomais mka Sandy Woodhouse Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:51:36 -0500 To: stefan at texas.net From: Jane Boyko Subject: [E_LIST] Canadian mead vendors Stefan, sorry for posting to you privately but I deleted your mead posting for gentleman looking for Canadian Meaderies. I posted that message to the e-list in Ontario (Ealdomere) and here are some results. As you can see both this good gentle and myself managed to not keep the gentleman's email address. Can you forward this onto him? Thanks Marina >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:38:39 +0000 (GMT) >From: Streonwold Wulfesbana >Subject: [E_LIST] Canadian mead vendors >To: e-list > >I don't recall who posted looking for Canadian meadery >info, so I can't cc to the person who originally >requested it, but maybe this will find its way back to >them. I found this via a Google web search, using >"meadery, canada" as key words: > >From: >http://www.talisman.com/mead/meadery.html > >Le Rucher Bernard Bee Bec >& Assoc des hydromeliers du >Que'bec >Diane Rice & Bernard Blache're >152, rue Principale >Beebe Plain, Qc >CANADA J0B 1 E0 >819-876-2800 > >Ferme apicole Desrochers D >Marie-Claude Dupuis & Claude Desrocher >113, ran 2 Gravel >Ferme Neuve, Qc >CANADA J0W 1C0 >819-587-3471 > >Intermiel >Christian & Viviane Macle >10291, chemin La Fresnie're >St-Benoit (Mirabel), Qc >CANADA J0N 1K0 >514-258-2713 > >London Winery >540 Wharncliffe Rd, S >London, ON >CANADA N6J 2N5 >519-686-8431 > >Muse'e de l'Abeille & >Les Ruchers Promiel, Inc >8862, Blvd Ste-Anne >Chateau-Richer, Qc >CANADA G0A N0 >(418) 824-4411 > >Les Vins Mustier Gerzer >Ge'rald He'naul >3299, route 209 >St-Antoine Abbe, Qc >CANADA J0S 1E0 >(514) 826-4609 > >Les Entreprises Prince-Leclerc >239, chemin Haut de la >Paroisse >St-Agapit, Qc >CANADA G0S 1Z0 >418-888-3323 > >Rucher Les Saules >Patrick & Ste'phane Vanier >27, chemin Saxby Nord >Saxby Corner, Granby, Qc >CANADA J2G 8C7 >514-372-3403 > >Rucher Tete en Fleurs >CP 222 >St Anaclet, Qc >CANADA, G0K 1HO > >and, additionally, from: >http://www.gotmead.com/Mead_Links/Meaderies/meaderies.html > >Rush Creek Wineries >R R #2 Aylmer, Ontario >N5H 2R2 Canada >Telephone: (519)773-5432 >Fax: (519)773-5431 >rushcreek at amtelecom.net > >I haven't tried any of them, so no recommendations, >but some of them might be available and worth the tasting. >===== >Streonwold Wulfesbana (mka Steve Benetti) To: spca-wascaerfrig at yahoogroups.com From: PBLoomis at aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:52:42 EST Subject: Re: [spca-wascaerfrig] Re: [SCA_Brew] Re: US Commercial brewers of mead In a message dated 12/9/01 5:48:38 PM Central Standard Time, stefan at texas.net writes: > Scotti forwarded a message giving two commercial meaderies in the US. Actually that was an edited version, giving just the ones that are in states where I know SPCA members live. Below is the entire list. Scotti Here is a list of U.S. commercial meaderies that I post from time to time on the Mead Lovers Digest. Lots of good meadmakers on this list! <><><><><><><><> Dan McFeeley mcfeeley at keynet.net ____________________ California Bargetto Winery Heidrun Meadery Paul Woffard, Winemaker 55 Ericson Court, Suite 4 3535 N. Main St. Arcata, CA 95521 Soquel, CA 95073 (707) 825-8748 (408) 475-2258 fax (707) 825-8739 1- 877- HEIDRUN (1-877-434-3786) info at heidrunmeadery.com http://www.heidrunmeadery.com HoneyRun Honey Co Mountain Meadows Mead John & Amy Hasle Ron Lunder & Peggy Fulder - Meadmakers Box 3172 12 Third Street Chico, CA, 95928 Westwood, California 96137-1199 916-345-6405 phone 530.256.3233 www.des-chico.com/~honeyrun fax 530.256.3234 ____________________ Colorado Redstone Meadery Rocky Mountain Meadery 4700 Pearl Street, unit 2A Fred & Connie Strothman Boulder, Colorado 80301 3701 G Rd 720-406-1215 Palisade, CO 81526 970-464-7899 www.wic.net/meadery Stoney Mesa Winery P.O. Box 966 1619 2125 Drive Cedaredge, CO 81413 (970) 856-7572 http://www.stoneymesa.com ____________________ Deleware Coventree Meadery John Zeron 29 Askirk Pl Newark, DE 19702-6000 302-832-0437 www.grovenet.com/coventree email: coventree at grovenet.com ____________________ Florida Fred's Mead Company Fred Buhl 6024 N.W. 54th Terrace Gainesville, FL 32653-3344 Phone/FAX: Fred's Mead Company World Corporate Headquarters: (352) 381-9003 Toll-free: 1-877-886-9472 ____________________ Hawaii Volcano Winery PO Box 843 Volcano, HI 96785 808-967-7479 www.volcanowinery.com ____________________ Idaho Life Force Honey & Winery 1193 Saddle Ridge Rd Moscow, ID 83843 208-882-9158 800-497-8258 ____________________ Indiana Anderson's Orchard & Winery Oliver Winery 430 E. US Hwy Bill & Kathleen Oliver Valpariso, IN 46383 8024 Hwy 37 (219) 464-4936 Bloomington, IN www.andersonsvineyard.com 812-876-5800 email:woliver at kiva.net ____________________ Maine Bartlett Maine Estate Winery Cask & Hive Winery RR1, Box 598 PO Box 275 Gouldsboro, ME 04607 155 Norris Hill Rd. (207) 546-2408 Monmouth, ME 04259 (207) 933-WINE ____________________ Maryland Berrywine Plantation Lucille Aellen Linganore Winecellars 13601 Glissens Mill Rd Mt. Airy, MD 21771-8595 (310) 831-5889 (410) 795-6432 www.linganore-wine.com ____________________ Minnesota Minnesota Wild Winery WineHaven Winery and Vineyard 69 Airport Blvd. 9757 292nd Street McGregor, MN 55760 Chisago City, MN 55013 (218) 768-4917 Phone/Fax (651) 257-1017 info at winehaven.com http://www.winehaven.com/ ____________________ Missouri Pirtle's Weston Vineyards Elbert & Trisha Pirtle 502 Spring St, PO Box 247 Weston, MO 64098 816-640-5728 http://pirtlewine.com ____________________ Nebraska Cuthills Vineyards Ed Swanson RR2, Box 210 Pierce, NE 68767 (402) 329-6774 www.cuthills.com ____________________ New Jersey SABA TEJ (Organic Honey Wine) Co. 15 Park Avenue Rutherford, New Jersey 07070 Tel. 1-888-772-2283 or 201 438 9994 Fax 201 438 9994 E-mail axumtej at worldnet.att.net ____________________ New Mexico Bees Brothers Winery 619 Nowicki Lane SW Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA 1-505-452-3191 answering machine 1-505-452-3192 fax web site under construction at beesbrothers.com Bill Smith owner Rick Hogan meadmaker ____________________ New York Earle Estates Meadery Lakewood Vineyards John & Esther Earle Christopher Stamp 3586 Rt. 14 4024 SR 14 Himrod, New York Watkins Glen, NY 14891 14842 607-535-9252 www.meadery.com www.lakewoodvineyards.com ____________________ Ohio Jilbert Winery 1496 Columbia Rd. Valley City, Ohio 44280 www.ohiohoneywine.homestead.com ____________________ Oregon Chateau Lorane 27415 Siuslaw River Road / PO Box 47 Lorane, OR 97451 (541) 942-8028 http://www.chateaulorane.com/ ____________________ Virginia Smokehouse Winery John Hallberg & Jen Cable, proprietors. 10 Ashby Rd., Sperryville, VA 22740. Phone: 540-987-3194. Fax: 540-987-8189. Website: www.smokehousewinerybnb.com. E-mail: smokehouse at tidalwave.net. ____________________ Washington Ambrosia by Kristy Meadery Sky River Brewing 4921 85th Ave West 32533 Cascade View Drive University Place, WA 98467 P.O. Box 869 (253) 307-5156 Sultan, WA 98294 http://www.wa.net/~ambrosia/ (360)793-6761 http://skyriverbrewing.com ____________________ West Virginia Little Hungary Farm Winery Frank Androczi Rt 6, POB 323 Buckhannon, WV 26201 304-472-6634 ____________________ Wisconsin Spurgeon Vineyards & Winery White Winter Winery Rt 1 402 South George St Box 201 Highland, WI 53543 PO Box 636 (608) 929-7692 Iron River, WI 54847 www.spurgeonvineyards.com Toll Free: 800-697-2006 (715) 372-5656 sales at whitewinter.com http://www.whitewinter.com/ ____________________ Texas La Buena Vida Vineyards 416 E College Street Grapevine, TX (817) 481-9463 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:55:44 -0400 From: "Jeanne" Subject: [Sca-cooks] Mead - Honey Wine - honey wine - Honey - Honeywine.com To: "Ansteorra Cooks" , "Merry Rose Tavern" http://www.honeywine.com/ Soffya Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:54:18 -0800 From: Susan Fox-Davis Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] a cooking club To: Cooks within the SCA >...wish I could get my hand on a bottle of meade. White Winter Meadery www.whitewinter.com Commercial mead that I consider worth feeding to SCAdians and outsiders alike Selene Colfox From the FB " Medieval & Renaissance Cooking and Recipes" group: Glitter Twin 8/1/15 If you are looking for braggots, look no further than Rabbits Foot Meadery Doug Davis Redstone Mead is good. I have a six year old bottle of Lindisfarne Mead. I can't get anymore cause the distributor quit selling it and that meadery won't sell outside the UK. Edited by Mark S. Harris meadery-list-msg Page 15 of 15