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Making mead. Honey based alcoholic beverage. Period and modern recipes.

 

NOTE: See also the files: meadery-list-msg, wine-msg, perry-msg, cider-msg, brewing-msg, beer-msg, beverages-msg, beverages-NA-msg, p-bottles-msg.

 

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    Mark S. Harris                  AKA:  THLord Stefan li Rous

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From: dawyd at dasys1.UUCP (David Gurzynski)

Date: 21 Nov 89 05:02:35 GMT

Organization: The Big Electric Cat

 

To all the good folk who might read this, Greetings!

 

        The following is another mead recipe which I have not yet tried but

I thought that if there were some brave souls out there I might find out

from others how well it works.

                        SPICED MEAD

        4 lbs honey

        4 qts water

        1/4 lb chopped candied ginger

        3 tbs whole cloves

        3 tbs mace

        3 tbs Cassia buds

 

        Mix the honey and water and boil and skim till the scum stops rising,

(those who wish might just use campden tablets to sterilize and boil the

spices

in some water and add this to the must). Place the spices in a muslin bag and

add to mixture and boil for 5 minutes.  Remove from the stove and add the

ginger.  Then, when cool, add the yeast. Leave the bag of spices in for about

a week.

        After two weeks strain well and rack.  When fermentation is finished

bottle and allow to age AT LEAST three months.

                                ***

        Anyone who tries this, please let me know how it turns out!

I have also heard from someone up in the northeast that there is an SCA

person who is commercially brewing mead and calling it Odin's Mead.  Has

anyone heard of it?  

--

David Gurzynski        Jamaica NY         dasys1!dawyd at cmcl2.nyu.edu

mka. Dawyd z Gury      Ostgardr           73647.233 at compuserve.com

 

 

From: clanhlm!blank at UCSCC.UCSC.EDU

Date: 6 Dec 89 03:14:18 GMT

Organization: Society for Creative Anachronism

 

        I have been trying this mead recipe -- no batch has completed, but

        the intermediate samples are very good.

 

        Somebody might want to try this.  It is modeled on a 14th centuary

        recipe.  It is a working man's mead, with no frills.  You can spice

        it up with the addition of cinnamon or other spices, added during

        the second boiling.  You could also add rose water (I think that

        I will try that in a later batch...)  Other flavors which might

        be good could be orange, clove, nutmeg, or other winter spice.

 

        If you try this, I'd appreciate hearing about it...

 

                                        John

 

        Claymore's Mead

 

        25 lbs wild honey

        10 ounces dried rose hips

        5 gallons clean water

        1 package of Champaign yeast

        yeast nutrient

        6 gallon carboy

        water lock

        siphon

        champaign bottles, 750 ml

        3/4 cup corn sugar

 

        place the honey and rose hips in a large (five or more gallon

        capacity) kettle.  Add enough water to half fill the kettle.

        Stir until the honey begins to dissolve.  If you can't get

        home raised honey, which HASN'T been strained, add the yeast

        nutrient, according to the directions on the package.  Begin heating.

        Stir until the honey is disolved.  Bring to a boil, and boil

        for about 30 minutes.  Add the remaining water (or intil the water

        is two inches from the top of the kettle).  Bring to a boil,    

        and let boil for about 15 minutes.  Boil a small amount of

        water, and then cool (without contaminating) to about 90 degrees

        F.  Add yeast to the small amount of water.  Cool the honey

        mixture to about 70 degrees F.  Add the yeast to the honey mix,

        and let ferment in the kettle, until the activity subsides (about

        5-7 days).  Keep the kettle covered with sterile airtight seal.

        Periodically release the gas.  Sterilize the carboy and water lock.

        When the activity in the honey mixture subsides, siphon into the

        carboy, leaving the sediment in the kettle.  Let the carboy stand

        at a constant temp (about 65 degrees F) until it clears (about

        4 months).  Boil the corn sugar with about 2 cups of water.

        Sterilize the kettle, and decant into the kettle. Add the

        sugar water to the mead, stirring with a sterile metal spoon.

        Decant into the bottles, leaving about 1 inch of head.  Cork.

        Let sit for about 9 months.  Drink.

 

        Let the sugar water cool before adding it to the mead (when you

        are decanting into the bottles).  Otherwise, you might kill the

        remaining yeast, which would defeat the purpose of the sugar

        water.  It is to make the mead a lightly sparkeling mead.  You

        will have to find a yeast which has a high alcohol tolerence

        (champaign yeast is pretty borderline.  There are very high

        alcohol yeasts which would work better -- I can't get any of

        them locally, unfortunately.)

 

                                        John

 

 

From: ddfr at tank.uchicago.edu (david director friedman)

Date: 7 Dec 89 01:19:16 GMT

Organization: University of Chicago

 

"I have been trying this mead recipe....  It is modeled on a 14th

centuary recipe." (John)

 

The only two 14th century mead recipes I know of are in Curye on

Inglysch (V9,10). V9 just uses honey and water, fermented; V10 uses

boiled apples, honey, pepper, and cloves. Neither is at all similar

to the recipe you gave; do you have another source?

 

Incidentally, you might note that corn sugar could not have been used

in any 14th century european recipe. The use of cane sugar would be

very unlikely in northern europe, since it was much more expensive

than honey; I do not know if mead was made in Spain or Italy, where

sugar would have been more nearly competitive.

 

David Friedman (Cariadoc)

College of Grey Gargoyles, Middle Kingdom

Chicago, IL

 

 

From: AR.SEG at forsythe.stanford.edu (Steven E Goodman)

Date: 7 Dec 89 19:53:14 GMT

 

It isn't all that tough to make a drinkable mead.  But I don't claim

its good, just drinkable.

 

Sterilize a wide mouth crock with lots of hot water.

Boil a bunch of water, and then cool to luke warm (slightly above

room temp).

Mix some honey and warm water with ale yeast.

Mix a bunch of honey and a bunch of water in the crock (1 gal water

to 1 lb honey).

Mix in the yeast.

(Throw in a tea bag or three, for the tannin)

Place some cloth over the mouth of the crock to keep dust and

airborne stuff out of the crock.

Place the crock in a cool (but room temp) place.

Go away for a month.

 

Come back.

Careful skim all the scum off the top.

(Careful not to stir up any sediment)

Carefully siphon into bottles, trying not to get any sediment.

Cork the bottles.

Put the bottles in the previous cool place (upright).

Go away for three months.

 

Come back.

Chill

Uncork

Drink

 

This should create a somewhat alchoholic, somewhat carbonated,

beverage.  Throw in more stuff if you want it to have flavor.

Most important (as Kevin will agree) everything needs to be sterile.

 

The tea isn't really period (I think), but its the easiest way to

add a little tannin.  Lemons and Oranges would probably add enough

acid in place of the tannin.

 

Etienne

 

 

From: ddfr at tank.uchicago.edu (david director friedman)

Date: 8 Dec 89 00:59:10 GMT

Organization: University of Chicago

 

"The tea isn't really period (I think)" (Etienne)

You are correct. Tea comes into use in England about 1650. So far as

I can tell, it was not being used anywhere in Europe in 1600. I do

not think Kenelm Digby (mid 17th c) uses it. Indeed, the article on

mead in the first edition of the Britannica does not mention tea,

which makes me suspect that its use in mead may be a nineteenth or

twentieth century innovation.

 

This raises the interesting question of what, if anything, was used

to provide tannin in period meads. Does anyone know if they used oak

casks? Would such casks result in tannin in the mead? I believe

acorns have lots of tannin, but have never seen a mead recipe using

them. My best guess is that there was no tannin; if so, using it may

result in a noticably different product from a period mead.

 

Has anyone experimented with the 14th century mead recipes I

mentioned? The first one does not tell you much that is useful, but

the second gives quantities and is not a standard mead, since it has

both apple and spices. John's use of "derived from," (loosely based

on something said to be  said to be said to be based on a period

recipe), while literally correct, reminds me a little of the hundred

year old axe: the head had been replaced twice and the haft three

times, but the axe was a hundred years old and still worked fine.

 

David Friedman (Cariadoc)

College of Grey Gargoyles, Middle Kingdom

Chicago, IL

 

 

From: KGANDEK at MITVMC.MIT.EDU (Kathryn Gandek)

Date: 8 Dec 89 19:50:03 GMT

Organization: Society for Creative Anachronism

 

Regarding the recent comment about making mead palatable to the modern taste versus period, appropriate ingredients and all that stuff...

 

I would like to put forward the theory that the palatability of mead has much

less to do with its periodicity than with the care, attention and restraint

of the brewer.  My lord is Sir Michael of York, whose article on making mead

appears in the Knowne World Handbook.  He gets asked to taste quite a number of brews, and I end up trying them too.  Taste is a relative thing, but I

suspect that,  along with experience, the greatest determiner of how the mead

turns out has to do with the how even more than the what.

 

Michael's mead (informally known as MichaelMead for any of you who may have run

into it without meeting him) when it has appeared in an auction has gone for

anywhere from $6-$10 dollars for a bottle--presumably he is doing something

right.  Although Michael's recipes do come from sources such as Digby, the main thing I have noticed is his painstaking attention to the details of the

process

--the cleanliness of the kitchen and tools, the freshness of the ingredients,

the skimming of the scum, and many other things... but it's not for me to give

away any mysteries of the brewing process ;-)  He has worked on the nuances of recipes instead of trying as many as possible. Consequently, the product is

quite palatable, even for modern tastes.

 

Catrin o'r Rhyd For               Kathryn Gandek

Barony of Carolingia              Boston area

East Kingdom                      kgandek%mitvmc.bitnet at mitvma.mit.edu

 

 

From: crf at PINE.CIRCA.UFL.EDU (FEINSTEIN)

Date: 14 Dec 89 12:15:00 GMT

Organization: Society for Creative Anachronism

 

Greetings!

 

Some time ago, several people noticed my note to Jhanos about having various

addresses for brewers', and asked for the info.  Due to a lack of time, the

best way to reach these people is to post the info.  

 

I hope he doesn't mind my saying so, but I also recommend people contact

Dagonell the Juggler, who is a wellspring of such things.

 

I also have mundane info of a similar nature, such as how to subscribe to

_Zymurgy_, the magazine of the American Homebrewers' Assoc.  Feel free to

write

me with requests and questions, but please be aware that, after this today, I

shan't be at work again until after Christmas.

 

Happy Holidays!

 

Interkingdom Brewers' & Vinters' Guild Newsletter

Lord Phillip the Pilgrim

c/o Phil Reed

510 Reed Lane,

Lexington, KY  40503-1228

 

$5.00 and 4 issues per year

 

Info on the Guild itself:

 

Master Solomon ben Jacob, Guildmaster

c/o Sherwin J. Kader

3721 N. Murray Ave,

Shorewood, WI  53211

 

East Kingdom Brewers' Guildmaster:

Robin Argyll du Coeur Aile'

c/o Argyle R. Wolf-Knapp

PO Box 1826

New York, NY  10025

 

                                In Service,

                                    Cher de Bellevue

 

 

From: 504800%UOTTAWA.BITNET at MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Kate Sanderson)

Date: 7 Feb 90 03:04:36 GMT

Organization: Society for Creative Anachronism

 

Greetings to all from Gwilym, appearing courtesy his Lady wife, Kasia.

 

A couple of months ago some people were discussing how to get tannic acid into their mead recipes. This was a back burner question that I've just gotten

around to looking up.

 

The chief sources of tannin in period seem to be what we would call berries.

Primarily cranberries and currants, but raspberries, wild strawberries,

elderberries and many of the berries from the tundra and near tundra, were

used in period meads as a tannin source. One Iron Age dig discovered a primary

fermentation pot for mead and it contained cranberries. Sometimes cheap red

wines were also used for a tannin source, especially if the wine had started

to go to vinegar.

 

One of the better secondary sources for this sort of thing is a book called

Food and Drink in Great Britain (I think, maybe A History of ...)

Most of my looking up was a conversation with Mistress Enid Aurelia, so if

there are further enquiries, I will be happy to get a slightly more

concrete set of references, so people can look them up in the library, rather

than Skraeling Althing.

 

Gwilym ap Alun                       Bill Sanderson

Barony of Skraeling Althing          Ottawa, Ontario

Ealdormere, Middle Kingdom           Canada

 

PS. Your Principality Exchequer (Ealdormere) reminds you that there are only

9 days before the tax forms are due.

 

 

From: jim at surya.UUCP (owner)

Date: 17 Apr 90 04:39:51 GMT

Organization: surya.system (sunny side up)

 

brighid at hern.mv.com writes:

> I want to make a dry mead - what ratio of honey to water should I use?

Make it the old fashioned way,

 

Take your pot of (boiling ) water, add honey,

when the solution will float an egg up to the top of the pot, then you

have enough honey.  If the egg shows a spot the size of a quarter, you

will have a sweet (and strong) mead a spot the size of a dime or

smaller will be on the dry side.

Remember also, that the yeast used will affect how sweet/dry the mead

will turn out.

 

R.J. Klessig  Hayward Ca..........Ch'ndra P'nthi Esfenn Mists West.

{pacbell!rencon!esfenn!surya!jim}, an upcomming waffle site.

 

 

are very Viking, with Althings, etc.  They do SCA fighting, often as

mercenaries.  I'd guess 50 to 100 members, a fair number are overlaped with

SCA.  A fun, rowdy group, with a penchant for fire-jumping and good mead

(from Tellef Thygesen, who also made my helm.  He's gone commercial, and

makes __good__ mead.  Odin's Mead, from The Meadery, Meader Rd, Greenwich, NY,

(518) 692-9669.  I hear they're sold out for the next 6 months of production.)

--

Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering.

{uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup at cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com  BIX: rjesup  

Common phrase heard at Amiga Devcon '89: "It's in there!"

 

 

From: david at twg.com (David S. Herron)

Date: 17 Jul 90 06:59:46 GMT

Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA

 

        "Although we may little realize it today, when the

         world was young, when the gods walked the earth and

         communed with men, and when men had more ready access

         to paradise than they have had since, mead was the

         liquor drunk by gods and men alike."

 

This is the first paragraph in _Brewing_Mead_ by Robert Gayre and

a chap named Nigg.  Bound in the same book is _Wassail!_In_Mazers_of_Mead_

written by Charlie Papazian.

 

The first half, _Brewing_Mead_, is an in depth history of mead

production world wide through history.  The author makes a lot

of lintuisticly derived arguments to prove that various drinks

talked of in ancient texts are really honey-derived wines & beers.

Along the way there are many "secondary sources" given, reproductions

of pictures and translations of text fragments into modern english.

 

Very fascinating and informative ..

 

The second half, _Wassail!_, tells how to do it.  There's a buncha

recipes here of all major types of mead.

 

Now..  the reason for mentioning this book is..  The first time I

saw it was in the library, and it had all the indications of having

been a first edition.  (Original publication: 1948..)

 

This book I have in front of me is a fresh printing from "Brewers

Publications".

 

        Brewers Publications

        American Homebrewers Association

        PO Bos 287

        Boulder, CO  80306

 

        (303) 447-0816

 

This was a second printing in 1988.  I found this copy in a

wine making store here in Sillycon Valley.