beverages-NA-msg - 6/25/09 ਀ഊNon-alcoholic beverages. Tea, fruit drinks. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: beverages-msg, bev-water-msg, Bev-f-Hot-Day-art, jalabs-msg, fresh-juices-msg, beer-msg, cider-msg, cider-art, Non-Alco-Drks-art, coffee-msg, kvass-msg, kumiss-msg, Orng-Lmn-drks-art. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: strata at FENCHURCH.MIT.EDU ("M. Strata Rose") ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㜀 䘀攀戀 㤀  ㈀㈀㨀㄀㐀㨀㐀㐀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 愀琀 昀椀渀攀 䨀愀瀀愀渀攀猀攀 最爀漀挀攀爀礀 猀琀漀爀攀猀 攀瘀攀爀礀眀栀攀爀攀 㨀ⴀ⤀ 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀ഊbarley tea, made from roasted whole barley ground and put into tea ਀戀愀最猀⸀  䤀✀瘀攀 猀攀攀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀最猀 漀昀 眀栀漀氀攀 最爀愀椀渀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 瀀爀攀ⴀ爀漀愀猀琀攀搀⸀  䴀愀搀攀ഊwith a little honey and diluted by half, it makes a very refreshing ਀搀爀椀渀欀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 椀搀攀愀 椀昀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 ∀戀愀爀氀攀礀ഊwater". My non-educated guess is that if "teas" were reserved to ਀∀爀攀愀氀 琀攀愀 氀攀愀瘀攀猀 ☀ 眀愀琀攀爀∀ 琀栀攀渀 戀愀爀氀攀礀 眀愀琀攀爀 洀愀礀 愀瀀瀀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀攀氀礀 攀焀甀愀氀ഊbarley tea. Caveat: Do not let my speculations assume even a ਀栀甀渀搀爀攀搀琀栀 漀昀 愀 瀀攀爀挀攀渀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 眀攀椀最栀琀 漀昀 愀挀琀甀愀氀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀℀ഊ ਀䤀渀 䨀愀瀀愀渀Ⰰ 戀愀爀氀攀礀 琀攀愀 椀猀 愀 琀爀愀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 搀爀椀渀欀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀氀礀 洀攀愀渀猀ഊit's been around a loooong time. The green chai that we so often ਀愀猀猀漀挀椀愀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 䨀愀瀀愀渀 椀猀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 愀 䌀栀椀渀攀猀攀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀 昀爀漀洀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀ഊof the Khanate. I don't have documentation for it, unfortunately, so ਀䤀 搀漀渀琀✀ 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 戀愀爀氀攀礀 眀愀猀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 最爀漀眀渀 椀渀 䨀愀瀀愀渀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀ഊperiod we're interested in. I've always thought of barley as a ਀䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 最爀愀椀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 搀漀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀䴀攀Ⰰ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀琀 ✀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀 琀愀猀琀攀猀 最漀漀搀⸀  㨀ⴀ⤀ 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀开匀琀爀愀琀愀ഊ ਀⠀倀匀ⴀ 䤀 愀氀猀漀 搀椀氀甀琀攀 猀攀欀愀椀渀樀愀戀椀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 搀漀甀戀氀攀Ⰰ 椀攀 ㄀ 瀀愀爀琀 猀礀爀甀瀀 琀漀 愀戀漀甀琀 ㈀ ഊparts water, and find it's very good that way and too sweet/sticky for when ਀礀漀甀✀爀攀 漀瘀攀爀栀攀愀琀攀搀 眀栀攀渀 椀琀✀猀 愀琀 渀漀爀洀愀氀 猀琀爀攀渀最琀栀⤀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: ddfr at quads.uchicago.edu (david director friedman) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 㔀 伀挀琀 㤀   㘀㨀㐀 㨀㔀㜀 䜀䴀吀 ഊOrganization: University of Chicago ਀ ഊConjecture vs Fact ਀ ഊ"Root beer made from sasparilla is New World, but brews of various ਀猀漀爀琀猀 眀攀爀攀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 爀漀漀琀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 伀氀搀攀 圀漀爀氀搀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 渀漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ഊexcept the New World ones, I know that trees of various sorts (such ਀愀猀 眀椀氀氀漀眀⤀ 眀攀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 洀攀搀椀挀椀渀愀氀氀礀 愀渀搀 愀猀 琀漀渀椀挀猀Ⰰ 䤀 琀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀 ഊextrapolate ... In the name of creativity I am willing to use ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 愀渀搀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 洀攀琀栀漀搀猀 愀渀搀 洀愀欀攀 愀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀甀氀搀 ഊhave been made in period, we will never know if it was or not." ਀⠀䄀眀椀氀搀愀⤀ഊ ਀匀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀⸀ ഊFirst, how do you know that brews of various sorts were made from ਀爀漀漀琀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 伀氀搀攀 圀漀爀氀搀㼀 䄀爀攀 礀漀甀 猀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀ഊbut they do not happen to have recipes? What are they? ਀ഊSecond, there is a big gap between medicine and ordinary beverages. ਀䤀昀 礀漀甀 猀愀琀 搀漀眀渀 愀琀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 爀攀猀琀愀甀爀愀渀琀 愀渀搀 眀攀爀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 挀漀甀最栀 猀礀爀甀瀀 漀爀ഊcod liver oil you would be both surprised and upset. I assume from ਀眀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 猀愀礀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀爀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 椀猀 漀渀氀礀 愀戀漀甀琀 洀攀搀椀挀愀氀 甀猀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀ഊleaves serving such drinks at a feast still pretty dubious. ਀ഊCariadoc ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 欀攀渀 愀琀 瘀愀氀欀礀爀椀攀⸀攀挀渀⸀甀漀欀渀漀爀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䬀攀渀 䈀甀爀渀猀椀搀攀⤀ഊDate: 3 Oct 90 22:58:49 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 伀欀氀愀栀漀洀愀Ⰰ 一漀爀洀愀渀ഊ ਀䤀 愀洀 嘀䔀刀夀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 栀攀愀爀椀渀最 漀昀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀 昀漀爀 匀䌀䄀ഊ(and other functions). If these receipes could be collected, and ਀瀀甀琀 甀瀀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 洀愀椀氀攀搀 漀甀琀 漀爀 昀琀瀀✀搀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀ഊbe very greatful. ਀ഊMy personal favorite: Norse spiced cider. (Not necessarily period) ਀ഊ1 gallon of fresh-pressed or spring cider. (Spring cider is ਀洀椀氀搀氀礀 愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀⤀ഊ2 cups of white whine vinegar. ਀㈀ 瀀漀甀渀搀猀 漀昀 栀漀渀攀礀⸀ഊ1 lemon, diced into .25" cubes. (unclude the rind!) ਀ഊ2 tbsp of ground cloves. ਀㄀ 琀戀猀瀀 漀昀 最爀漀甀渀搀 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀⸀ഊ1 tbsp of ground ginger. (optional. Sometimes causes a bitter taste) ਀⸀㈀㔀 挀甀瀀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀攀瘀攀爀 洀椀渀琀 礀漀甀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀匀攀琀 琀栀攀 挀椀搀攀爀 琀漀 猀椀洀洀攀爀椀渀最⸀  䐀椀猀猀漀氀瘀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀⸀  氀攀琀 挀漀漀氀 昀漀爀 愀 ഊbit, add in the vinegar. Simmer on low heat while stirring in the spices. ਀爀愀椀猀攀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀琀 愀 戀椀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀 栀漀琀⸀   䔀愀挀栀 挀甀瀀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 猀瀀爀椀渀欀氀椀渀最ഊof mint o'er the top as it's served. ਀ഊAs this drink sits on the hearth, it grows in potency....be wary of ਀焀甀愀昀昀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀爀攀最猀℀  ⠀吀栀漀甀Ⰰ ✀琀椀猀 猀愀椀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀漀洀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀琀 眀椀氀氀ഊrid a man of the chills of the deepest of winters with but a sip...) ਀ഊFor a summer drink, I like to mix a quart of apple cider with 1 cup of white ਀眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀Ⰰ 昀椀氀氀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀琀琀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀渀攀礀眀愀琀攀爀 ⠀眀愀琀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 ഊfair bit of honey dissolved into it) and let it steep with commercially ਀瀀爀攀瀀瀀攀搀 洀椀渀琀 琀攀愀戀愀最猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀甀渀 昀漀爀 愀 搀愀礀⸀  䜀漀漀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 挀栀椀氀氀攀搀ഊaround a bardic fire. ਀ഊThorfinn Halfblind (Ken Burnside) ਀䴀愀爀挀栀攀 漀昀 䔀爀攀搀 匀甀氀Ⰰ 䄀琀攀渀瘀攀氀搀琀⸀ഊ ਀                  ഊFrom: bnostrand at lynx.northeastern.EDU ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㈀ 䐀攀挀 㤀㄀  㠀㨀  㨀㔀  䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 搀攀瘀攀氀漀瀀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 椀挀攀 琀攀愀 椀猀 渀漀琀 愀猀 眀愀猀ഊsupposed the lack of ice. In antiquity, runners would be sent to the ਀洀漀甀渀琀愀椀渀猀 琀漀 昀攀琀挀栀 猀渀漀眀 昀漀爀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 搀攀氀椀挀愀挀椀攀猀⸀  䰀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 椀琀 眀愀猀ഊdiscovered that if large blocks of ice were cut from frozen ponds and ਀瀀氀愀挀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀椀挀欀 眀愀氀氀攀搀 猀琀漀爀愀最攀 栀漀甀猀攀猀 ⠀椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最氀礀 攀渀漀甀最栀 挀漀洀洀漀渀氀礀ഊcalled ice-houses) and covered with an insulator such as straw or ਀猀愀眀搀甀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀甀昀昀 眀漀甀氀搀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 氀愀猀琀 眀攀氀氀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 琀栀攀 匀甀洀洀攀爀ഊmonths. This was the common source of coolant until the popularization ਀漀昀 栀攀愀琀ⴀ瀀甀洀瀀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 搀攀瘀攀氀漀瀀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 椀挀攀 琀攀愀 椀猀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀ഊtea is prepared. As I mentioned in an earlier posting, the earliest ਀昀漀爀洀 漀昀 琀攀愀 ⠀挀愀氀氀攀搀 䐀䄀一䌀䠀䄀 椀昀 䤀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀氀礀⤀ 眀愀猀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀搀ഊby boiling tea bricks. However, ground tea was developed within ਀瀀攀爀椀漀搀 愀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 琀漀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 椀挀攀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀ഊeven an extant form in which ice tea is prepared by beating tea ਀瀀漀眀搀攀爀 椀渀琀漀 椀挀攀眀愀琀攀爀⸀  䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 愀洀 甀渀愀眀愀爀攀 漀昀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀椀猀 昀漀爀洀 眀愀猀ഊdeveloped. Regretably, I forgot to ask my tea-masters when they ਀琀愀甀最栀琀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀 琀漀 洀攀⸀  ⠀匀䤀䜀䠀⤀  吀栀攀爀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 猀漀洀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 椀琀ഊin a book I have the title of which roughly translates into ਀伀氀搀 吀攀愀 愀渀搀 一攀眀 吀攀愀⸀  唀渀昀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀攀氀礀Ⰰ 洀礀 挀漀瀀礀 漀昀 ∀䠀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 䌀栀愀 渀漀 夀甀∀ഊby Plutchow was destroyed in the flood which destroyed much of my ਀氀椀戀爀愀爀礀⸀  ⠀伀渀攀 最漀漀最氀攀瀀氀攀砀 漀昀 瘀攀爀礀 氀漀甀搀 匀䤀䜀䠀✀猀⸀⤀  䤀琀 椀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀ഊthat the Ice Tea cerimony appears in one of these books but, it ਀洀愀礀 愀氀猀漀 戀攀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 椀渀漀瘀愀琀椀漀渀℀ഊ ਀                                        匀漀氀瘀攀椀最 吀栀爀漀渀搀愀爀搀漀琀琀椀爀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: christer at sue.komunity.se (Christer Romson) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㈀ 䐀攀挀 㤀㄀  㜀㨀㐀㐀㨀   䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 眀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 椀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀ഊyear or two ago on the Rialto. A few readers remembered their parents or ਀最爀愀渀搀瀀愀爀攀渀琀猀 琀攀氀氀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 琀栀攀礀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀愀欀攀 戀椀最 挀栀甀渀欀猀 漀昀 椀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊwinter and put in a stack of sawdust, and it wouldn't melt until autumn. ਀吀栀椀猀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 愀猀 愀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 搀甀爀椀渀最 猀甀洀洀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 挀漀甀氀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀ഊthis in period, but i don't think we have any evidence they did. (Stacks of ਀琀栀椀猀 欀椀渀搀 挀漀甀氀搀 猀栀漀眀 甀瀀 漀渀 戀漀漀欀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀ഊcould be archeological finds of such stacks, but i haven't seen either). ਀ഊI don't know how much work it would be to produce the necceary amount of ਀猀愀眀搀甀猀琀 琀漀 最攀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀⸀ഊ ਀⠀一漀Ⰰ 椀✀洀 渀漀琀 愀搀瘀漀挀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 椀挀攀搀 琀攀愀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀        䰀椀渀搀漀爀洀 䔀爀椀欀猀猀漀渀 㰀挀栀爀椀猀琀攀爀 愀琀 匀甀攀⸀䬀伀䴀甀渀椀琀礀⸀匀攀㸀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: duncan at rti.rti.org (Stephen Duncan) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㌀ 䐀攀挀 㤀㄀ ㄀㌀㨀㔀㌀㨀㈀㜀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC ਀ഊchrister at sue.komunity.se (Christer Romson) writes: ਀㸀䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 眀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀猀椀戀椀氀椀琀礀 漀昀 椀挀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀ഊ>year or two ago on the Rialto. [...] They could probably have done ਀㸀琀栀椀猀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀栀攀礀 搀椀搀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀       䰀椀渀搀漀爀洀 䔀爀椀欀猀猀漀渀 㰀挀栀爀椀猀琀攀爀 愀琀 匀甀攀⸀䬀伀䴀甀渀椀琀礀⸀匀攀㸀ഊ ਀䌀漀氀漀渀椀愀氀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀戀甀爀最 椀渀 嘀椀爀最椀渀椀愀 栀愀猀 愀渀 椀挀攀 栀漀甀猀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 最爀漀甀渀搀猀 漀昀ഊthe governor's mansion. It looks something like a round barrow with a ਀昀氀愀琀琀攀爀 爀漀漀昀 ⠀昀漀爀 礀漀甀 愀爀挀栀愀攀漀氀漀最椀挀愀氀氀礀 椀渀挀氀椀渀攀搀⤀⸀  匀椀渀挀攀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀戀甀爀最ഊis either just in period or just out of it, the style might be worth ਀氀漀漀欀椀渀最 愀琀⸀  吀栀攀礀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 攀瘀攀渀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀挀攀 栀漀甀猀攀猀 椀渀ഊgeneral. ਀ഊIn the 19th century, ice harvesting was a major industry in New England, ਀眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 椀挀攀 眀愀猀 瀀愀挀欀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 猀栀椀瀀猀 昀漀爀 攀砀瀀漀爀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 䄀洀攀爀椀挀愀渀 猀漀甀琀栀⸀ ഊIt even had specialized ice saws. I don't know how early this began, ਀琀栀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀挀攀 椀猀渀✀琀 爀攀愀氀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 圀椀氀氀椀愀洀猀戀甀爀最 愀爀攀愀Ⰰഊand even with the Mini-Ice Age in effect, it wouldn't have the ice ਀昀椀攀氀搀猀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀⸀ഊ ਀匀琀攀瘀攀 䐀甀渀挀愀渀ഊduncan at rti.rti.org ਀ഊDate: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 13:48:01 -0600 (MDT) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䐀愀眀渀 䔀⸀ 䈀攀爀最愀挀欀攀爀∀ 㰀搀愀眀渀戀 愀琀 䌀匀一⸀伀刀䜀㸀ഊSubject: Root Beer Recipe ਀ഊI checked with the librarian at the Sugar Association (Suzanne Arnold, ਀⠀㈀ ㈀⤀⼀㜀㠀㔀ⴀ㄀㄀㈀㈀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀栀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀眀漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 爀漀漀琀 戀攀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 开䴀愀渀甀昀愀挀琀甀爀攀 愀渀搀 愀渀愀氀礀猀椀猀 漀昀 挀愀爀戀漀渀愀琀攀搀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀开 戀礀ഊMorris B. Jacobs, published by Chemical Pub. Co. of N.Y. (1959). It's a ਀昀漀爀洀甀氀愀 琀栀愀琀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 洀攀琀栀礀氀 猀愀氀椀挀礀氀愀琀攀 愀渀搀 最甀洀 愀爀愀戀椀挀⸀  䤀✀洀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 猀甀爀攀ഊthat's not what your patron is looking for however (it requires a ਀栀漀洀漀最攀渀椀稀攀爀 漀爀 愀 挀漀氀氀漀椀搀 洀椀氀氀 琀漀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀猀 昀爀漀洀 开䈀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀㨀 挀愀爀戀漀渀愀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 渀漀渀挀愀爀戀漀渀愀琀攀搀开 戀礀ഊJasper Guy Woodroof and G. Frank Phillips, published by AVI Pub. Co. of ਀圀攀猀琀瀀漀爀琀Ⰰ 䌀漀渀渀⸀ ⠀㄀㤀㜀㐀Ⰰ ㄀㤀㠀㄀⤀⸀  䤀琀 氀椀猀琀猀 愀 栀漀洀攀 昀漀爀洀甀氀愀 昀漀爀 洀愀欀椀渀最ഊsassafras mead: 3lb. of brown sugar, 1 pint of molasses, 1/4 lb. of ਀琀愀爀琀愀爀椀挀 愀挀椀搀⸀  䴀椀砀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 瀀漀甀爀 ㈀ 焀琀⸀ 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 愀渀搀ഊstir until dissolved. When cold, add 1/2 oz. essence of sassafras, and ਀戀漀琀琀氀攀⸀  圀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 眀椀猀栀 琀漀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀琀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 ㌀ 吀戀氀猀 椀渀 愀 琀甀洀戀氀攀爀 昀椀氀氀攀搀 ㄀⼀㈀ഊfull with ice water, then add 1/4 tsp. of soda. ਀ഊI'm not sure if it's still possible to get sassafras oil. Apparently ਀猀愀猀猀愀昀爀愀猀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 愀渀 漀椀氀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀 琀栀甀樀漀渀攀 愀渀搀 猀愀昀爀漀氀攀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 愀爀攀 戀漀琀栀ഊconsidered toxic (_On food and cooking_ by Harold McGee). ਀ഊThe _Food Science Sourcebook_, 2nd edition by Herbert W. Ockerman quotes ਀琀栀攀 䄀嘀䤀 开䈀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀开 戀漀漀欀 椀渀 愀 挀栀愀爀琀 漀渀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀猀 愀渀搀 猀愀礀猀Ⰰ ∀刀漀漀琀ഊbeer is made from oils of sassafras, sweet birch, wintergreen, cassia, ਀猀瀀椀挀攀Ⰰ 挀椀琀爀甀猀Ⰰ 瘀愀渀椀氀氀椀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 洀愀琀攀爀椀愀氀猀⸀∀ഊ ਀䤀 栀漀瀀攀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 椀猀 甀猀攀昀甀氀⸀  䤀 愀氀猀漀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 戀漀漀欀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 开䠀漀眀 琀漀ഊmake delicious beer and root beer: secrets of successful brewing the easy ਀眀愀礀开 戀礀 倀愀甀氀 䬀攀爀猀攀渀戀爀漀挀欀 嬀倀愀甀氀✀猀 倀甀戀氀椀挀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ ㄀㐀㈀㐀 䜀爀漀瘀攀Ⰰ 䌀爀攀琀攀Ⰰ 一攀戀⸀ഊ68333], 1983. It's listed in Melvyl as being held at UCLA College TP 577 ਀䬀㐀㜀 ㄀㤀㠀㌀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 愀氀猀漀 欀渀漀眀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀猀 愀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 琀栀愀琀 甀猀攀猀 礀攀愀猀琀 ⠀琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 琀栀攀ഊcarbonation) and a prepared root beer extract (Hires, I think). I can get ਀琀栀愀琀 琀漀漀 椀昀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀眀渀 䔀⸀ 䈀攀爀最愀挀欀攀爀 ⠀搀愀眀渀戀 愀琀 挀猀渀⸀漀爀最⤀ഊManager of Technical Information, Imperial Holly Corporation ਀㔀㌀㈀  䴀愀爀欀 䐀愀戀氀椀渀最 䈀氀瘀搀Ⰰ 䌀漀氀漀爀愀搀漀 匀瀀爀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 䌀伀 㠀 㤀㄀㠀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Lhiannan at f42.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Lhiannan) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Root Beer???? ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ  ㌀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ ㈀㌀㨀 ㈀㨀   ⴀ 㔀  ഊ ਀ ⴀ㴀㸀 儀甀漀琀椀渀最 䬀䔀䰀䰀䔀一 琀漀 䄀氀氀 㰀㴀ⴀഊKE> I have a patron who is interested in finding a recipe ਀ 䬀䔀㸀 ⠀昀爀漀洀 猀挀爀愀琀挀栀⤀ 漀昀 爀漀漀琀 戀攀攀爀⸀  䄀 䴀漀琀栀攀爀 䔀愀爀琀栀 一攀眀猀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀ഊ KE> said it was possible and even gave a few ingrediants, but no ਀ 䬀䔀㸀 瀀爀漀瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀猀 愀渀搀 渀漀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀⸀ഊ ਀ 䘀爀漀洀 ∀吀栀攀 䌀爀愀昀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䌀漀甀渀琀爀礀 䌀漀漀欀∀ 戀礀 倀愀琀 䬀愀琀稀⸀  ㄀㤀㠀㠀⸀  䤀匀䈀一  ⴀ㠀㠀㄀㜀㤀ⴀഊ 014-1. p. 44. (quoting "In the Kitchen" by Elizabeth S. Miller. 1875) ਀ഊ '"Take a handful of yellow dock-roots (be sure to get the long and pointed ਀  最爀攀攀渀 氀攀愀昀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀搀 猀琀爀攀愀欀猀⤀Ⰰ 愀 栀愀渀搀昀甀氀 漀昀 搀愀渀搀攀氀椀漀渀 爀漀漀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 漀渀攀 ഊ of sarsaparilla roots, and a small branch of the spruce tree; tie them in a ਀ 戀愀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀漀椀氀 栀愀氀昀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 椀渀 琀栀爀攀攀 焀甀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 琀愀欀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀ഊ bag and pour the liquid in a crock [and cover as described in the WINE ਀ 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀崀㬀 椀昀 琀漀漀 猀琀爀漀渀最Ⰰ 愀搀搀 眀愀琀攀爀㬀 猀眀攀攀琀攀渀 眀椀琀栀 洀漀氀愀猀猀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 挀漀漀氀 愀搀搀ഊ a pint of yeast and let it ferment, skimming it occasionally. It will be fit ਀ 琀漀 甀猀攀 椀渀 愀 搀愀礀 漀爀 琀眀漀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 洀甀猀琀 琀栀攀渀 戀攀 戀漀琀琀氀攀搀 愀渀搀 猀攀挀甀爀攀氀礀 挀漀爀欀攀搀⸀∀✀ഊ ਀ 一漀 眀愀爀爀愀渀琀椀攀猀⸀ 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ Lhiannan ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 栀爀樀漀渀攀猀 愀琀 甀挀氀椀渀欀⸀戀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䠀攀愀琀栀攀爀 刀漀猀攀 䨀漀渀攀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䜀爀攀渀愀琀愀猀㬀 䠀攀渀爀礀 嘀ഊDate: 17 Nov 1993 03:44:29 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀ഊ ਀㸀          甀猀椀渀最 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀  䄀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀猀ഊ> you need to boil to get the right amount of juice? ਀㸀ഊ> Yaakov ਀ഊWith the caveat that this suggestion is from practical modern experience ਀爀愀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀 ⸀⸀⸀ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 瀀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 爀愀琀栀攀爀  ഊthan boil, the pomegranates for juice. Separate the kernals completely ਀昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 爀椀渀搀 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀琀甀昀昀 昀椀爀猀琀⸀ 倀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 爀椀渀搀 椀猀 椀渀挀爀攀搀椀戀氀礀 爀椀挀栀ഊin tannic acid (I made a batch of pomegranate-tanned leather back in my ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀愀氀 搀愀礀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀漀 愀瘀漀椀搀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 椀琀 椀渀 礀漀甀爀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䬀攀爀椀搀眀攀渀 昀攀爀挀栀 䴀漀爀最愀渀 䜀氀愀猀昀爀礀渀㬀 圀攀猀琀Ⰰ 䴀椀猀琀猀Ⰰ 䴀椀猀琀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: cav at bnr.ca (Rick Cavasin) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Grenatas; Henry V ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㄀㜀 一漀瘀 ㄀㤀㤀㌀ ㄀㐀㨀㔀㠀㨀㈀㈀ 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. ਀ഊhqdoegtn/G=Harold/S=Feld/O=HQ at mhs.ATtmail.COM writes: ਀簀㸀           唀渀琀漀 愀氀氀 眀栀漀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀猀攀 眀漀爀搀猀Ⰰ 最爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 夀愀愀欀漀瘀⸀ഊ|> ਀簀㸀           䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀 愀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 最爀愀渀愀琀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 猀琀愀爀琀猀 眀椀琀栀ഊ|> *pomegranates*. They are on sale at the local supermarket. ਀簀㸀            吀栀攀 䴀椀猀挀攀氀氀愀渀礀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 愀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀ഊ|> recipe, which starts with pomegranates, but then redacts it ਀簀㸀           甀猀椀渀最 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀  䄀渀礀漀渀攀 欀渀漀眀 栀漀眀 洀愀渀礀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀猀ഊ|> you need to boil to get the right amount of juice? ਀簀㸀 ഊ|> Yaakov ਀ഊGreetings Yaakov! ਀ഊA useful rule of thumb that I've discovered in my brewing ਀攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀猀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 甀猀椀渀最 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 瀀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 䤀 挀愀渀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 攀砀琀爀愀挀琀ഊabout 2/3 of the weight of fruit as juice. This rule has held ਀琀爀甀攀 ⠀愀瀀瀀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀攀氀礀⤀ 昀漀爀 猀琀爀愀眀戀攀爀爀椀攀猀Ⰰ 瀀攀愀爀猀Ⰰ 戀氀甀攀戀攀爀爀椀攀猀Ⰰ ഊcherries, apples, etc. I've never pressed pomegranates (too ਀攀砀瀀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 甀瀀 栀攀爀攀 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀⤀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 栀漀眀 眀攀氀氀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀ഊapply. I suppose you should be able to get the same extraction ਀甀猀椀渀最 愀 樀甀椀挀攀爀⸀  䤀昀 礀漀甀 渀攀攀搀 ㄀ 氀椀琀爀攀 漀昀 樀甀椀挀攀Ⰰ 甀猀攀 ㄀⸀㔀 欀最 漀昀ഊpomegranates. Given how much the size of pomegranates seems ਀琀漀 瘀愀爀礀Ⰰ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀渀✀琀 爀攀氀礀 琀漀漀 栀攀愀瘀椀氀礀 漀渀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀礀ഊX number of pomegranates. ਀ഊIf you are not juicing the pomegranates first, I think you ਀挀愀渀 爀攀氀礀 漀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 樀甀椀挀攀 戀攀椀渀最 ✀氀攀愀挀栀攀搀✀ഊfrom the crushed kernels when you steep them. ਀ഊBoil them? (I'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight) ਀ഊCheers, Balderik (who wishes he could lay his hands on such ਀                  琀栀椀渀最猀 愀猀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 甀瀀 栀攀爀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ frozen north) ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 樀愀挀焀甀攀琀琀愀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䨀愀挀焀甀攀琀琀愀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 愀渀搀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀愀琀攀 猀渀椀琀ഊDate: 13 Apr 1994 19:58:02 -0400 ਀ഊuna at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk) writes: ਀㸀 㸀 䤀✀洀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀ⴀⴀ䤀 愀猀猀甀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 琀椀猀猀愀渀攀猀 ⠀椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀ഊ> > word?) and such made from other, local things. Beers and wines and ਀㸀 㸀 琀栀攀 氀椀欀攀 愀爀攀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 眀愀猀 琀栀椀渀欀椀渀最 漀昀 氀椀最栀琀攀爀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 攀椀琀栀攀爀ഊ> > for cooling off or for warming the soul on a cold dreary night. What ਀㸀 㸀 猀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀椀渀最猀 洀椀最栀琀 琀栀攀 愀瘀攀爀愀最攀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 栀愀瘀攀 挀栀漀猀攀渀㼀 ഊ> > Philippa ਀ഊI Found an interesting mention of a "sage-flavored Liquid" in "A Medieval Home ਀䌀漀洀瀀愀渀椀漀渀∀ 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 攀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 吀愀渀椀愀 䈀愀礀愀爀搀⸀  䤀琀猀 愀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 愀 ㄀㔀ഊcent translation of a 14cent tretise by an elderly parisian merchant to his 15 ਀礀攀愀爀 漀氀搀 戀爀椀搀攀 漀渀 栀漀甀猀攀眀椀昀攀爀礀⸀ഊ"To make a cask of sage-flavored ligquid, take 2 lbs sage, clip off the stems ਀愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 氀攀愀瘀攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀愀猀欀⸀⸀⸀⸀∀ഊ"To make sage flavored drinks at table in winter, have a ewer of sage water and ਀瀀漀甀爀 椀琀 漀瘀攀爀 眀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀 椀渀 愀 最漀戀氀攀琀⸀⸀⸀⸀∀ഊFrankly, I'm not too sure about a sage-water drink... ਀䨀愀挀焀甀攀琀琀愀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Robin Carroll-Mann ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: period non-alcoholic drinks and a moderate snit ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㐀 䄀瀀爀 㤀㐀  ㄀㨀㐀㤀㨀㐀  ⴀ 㔀  ഊOrganization: Delphi (info at delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) ਀ഊJacquetta writes: ਀ ഊ> una at bregeuf.stonemarche.org (Honour Horne-Jaruk) writes: ਀㸀ഊ>> > I'm curious--I assume that there were some tissanes (is that the right ਀㸀㸀 㸀 眀漀爀搀㼀⤀ 愀渀搀 猀甀挀栀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 漀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 氀漀挀愀氀 琀栀椀渀最猀⸀  䈀攀攀爀猀 愀渀搀 眀椀渀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊ>> > the like are obvious, but I was thinking of lighter beverages, either ਀㸀㸀 㸀 昀漀爀 挀漀漀氀椀渀最 漀昀昀 漀爀 昀漀爀 眀愀爀洀椀渀最 琀栀攀 猀漀甀氀 漀渀 愀 挀漀氀搀 搀爀攀愀爀礀 渀椀最栀琀⸀  圀栀愀琀ഊ>> > sorts of things might the average European have chosen? ਀㸀㸀 㸀 倀栀椀氀椀瀀瀀愀ഊ> ਀㸀䤀 䘀漀甀渀搀 愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 愀 ∀猀愀最攀ⴀ昀氀愀瘀漀爀攀搀 䰀椀焀甀椀搀∀ 椀渀 ∀䄀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䠀漀洀攀ഊ>Companion" translated and edited by Tania Bayard. Its a translation of a 15 ਀ ഊIn the "Libro de Guisados" (Spanish, 16th century) there is a recipe for ਀䌀氀愀爀攀愀Ⰰ 眀椀渀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 最椀渀最攀爀Ⰰ 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀氀漀瘀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 渀漀渀ⴀഊalcoholic version appears immediately afterwards "Clarea de Aqua" (Clarea from ਀圀愀琀攀爀⤀⸀  䤀琀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 栀漀渀攀礀 洀椀砀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀ഊstrained. I haven't gotten the proportions right yet (death by cinnamon!) but ਀眀栀攀渀 搀漀渀攀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀氀礀Ⰰ 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 爀攀猀攀洀戀氀攀 洀甀氀氀攀搀 挀椀搀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䈀爀椀最栀椀搀 渀椀 䌀栀椀愀爀愀椀渀ഊBarony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom ਀洀欀愀 刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀 ⠀爀挀洀愀渀渀 愀琀 搀攀氀瀀栀椀⸀挀漀洀⤀ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 渀漀猀琀爀愀渀搀 愀琀 戀愀礀攀猀⸀洀愀琀栀⸀礀漀爀欀甀⸀挀愀 ⠀䈀愀爀戀愀爀愀 一漀猀琀爀愀渀搀⤀ഊSubject: Re: Period non-alcoholic drinks ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 夀漀爀欀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊDate: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 01:46:26 GMT ਀ഊAccording to a book I am reading at the moment, whey was a common peasant ਀搀爀椀渀欀 椀渀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀攀愀猀愀渀琀爀礀 愀氀猀漀 搀爀愀渀欀 洀攀愀搀ഊand very rarely wine. Later, they developed beer which largely surplanted ਀洀攀愀搀⸀  吀栀攀 瀀攀愀猀愀渀琀猀 愀氀猀漀 爀愀爀攀氀礀 愀琀攀 戀爀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 愀琀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 昀漀爀洀猀ഊof gruel (frequently called brot) and sometime fried gruel in pans over ਀琀栀攀椀爀 昀椀爀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 最漀攀猀 漀渀 琀漀 猀琀愀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀挀攀 昀漀爀 瀀漀爀欀 眀愀猀 ㄀⼀㌀ഊhigher than the price for beef. And, supposably relatively fatty pork ਀眀愀猀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 氀攀愀渀攀爀 瀀漀爀欀 漀爀 戀攀攀昀⸀ഊ ਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ夀漀甀爀 䠀甀洀戀氀攀 匀攀爀瘀愀渀琀ഊ Solveig Throndardottir ਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ吀漀琀愀氀氀礀 䤀最渀漀爀愀渀琀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: jari.james at racer.ESkimo.COM (Jari James) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: beverages ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㌀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㈀㈀㨀㌀㤀㨀㐀  ⴀ 㐀  ഊOrganization: The Racer's Edge - TRE! * (206) 939-7876 ਀ഊ]^1drinks were. I know (or believe at least) that water was not commonly ਀崀帀㄀搀爀甀渀欀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 甀瀀瀀攀爀 挀氀愀猀猀攀猀 漀昀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 猀漀挀椀攀琀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀眀愀礀猀ഊ]^1heard that alcoholic beverages were used instead. I was wondering ਀崀帀㄀眀栀愀琀 猀漀洀攀   渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀Ⰰ 椀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最ഊ]^1less obvious than milk, fruit juices, and water. ਀崀帀㄀ഊ]^1Thanks to all, ਀崀帀㄀䜀氀攀渀渀 䈀攀爀洀愀渀ഊ ਀伀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ✀氀漀眀攀爀 挀氀愀猀猀✀ 搀爀椀渀欀猀 眀愀猀 琀眀椀氀猀礀㨀 瀀氀愀椀渀 漀爀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀攀搀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀猀ഊand water. Sounds nasty but is really quite refressing. [Raspberry ਀瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 洀愀欀攀猀 洀礀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀⸀  䨀甀猀琀 最漀 攀愀猀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 礀漀甀ഊfind the taste you like. :}] ਀ഊHer Excellency Mistress Rowan O'Callighan ਀䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 䈀氀愀琀栀愀 愀渀 伀椀爀ഊKingdom of An Tir <- home of the 30 Year Celebration!! ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: ansrb at orion.alaska.edu ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 吀眀椀氀猀礀 眀愀猀 刀攀㨀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀ഊOrganization: University of Alaska ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㘀 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㐀 ㄀㐀㨀㈀㘀㨀㔀㘀 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀 䔀砀挀攀氀氀攀渀挀礀Ⰰ 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 刀漀眀愀渀 伀✀䌀愀氀氀椀最栀愀渀 圀爀椀琀攀猀㨀ഊ> One of the 'lower class' drinks was twilsy: plain or flavored vinegars ਀㸀 愀渀搀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀  匀漀甀渀搀猀 渀愀猀琀礀 戀甀琀 椀猀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 焀甀椀琀攀 爀攀昀爀攀猀猀椀渀最⸀  嬀刀愀猀瀀戀攀爀爀礀ഊ> vinegar makes my favorite. Just go easy on the vinegar until you ਀㸀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 琀愀猀琀攀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀⸀  㨀紀崀ഊ ਀吀眀椀氀猀礀 椀猀 渀漀琀 樀甀猀琀 昀漀爀 爀攀昀爀攀猀栀洀攀渀琀 愀渀礀洀漀爀攀℀  䄀猀 猀琀甀搀攀渀琀猀 漀昀 昀漀氀欀 洀攀搀椀挀椀渀攀ഊhave known for years, drinking apple cider vinegar and water is very good ਀昀漀爀 漀渀攀✀猀 栀攀愀氀琀栀⸀  吀栀攀 洀愀椀渀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀 爀攀最甀氀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀搀礀✀猀ഊPh balance. My wife has used it successfully for treating both yeast and ਀猀椀渀甀猀 椀渀昀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀攀 戀漀琀栀 琀愀欀攀 椀琀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀氀礀 琀漀 瀀爀漀洀漀琀攀 琀栀攀 最爀漀眀琀栀 漀昀ഊgood bacteria in the intestines. It is important to use apple cider vine- ਀最愀爀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 ⨀眀栀漀氀攀⨀ 愀瀀瀀氀攀猀⸀ 䠀愀椀渀 洀愀欀攀猀 愀 最漀漀搀 漀渀攀⸀  夀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀戀氀攀 ഊto find it in most anywhere nowdays. Our mix is one tablespoon per 8oz of ਀眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀攀 渀漀琀 漀渀氀礀 最漀琀 甀猀攀搀 琀漀 椀琀Ⰰ 眀攀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀℀ഊ ਀䌀漀氀椀渀 刀漀猀猀 䴀愀挀䈀攀漀氀愀椀渀ഊThe Hammered Wombat ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 琀椀渀渀攀 愀琀 攀猀欀椀洀漀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀匀甀猀愀渀 倀爀漀昀椀琀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀ഊDate: 31 May 94 18:42:41 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䔀猀欀椀洀漀 一漀爀琀栀 ⠀㈀ 㘀⤀ 䘀漀爀ⴀ䔀瘀攀爀ഊ ਀䠀椀⸀ 䤀琀猀 漀甀琀 漀昀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 ⴀ 戀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 刀漀眀愀渀 挀愀氀氀猀 琀眀椀氀猀攀礀 眀愀猀 愀氀猀漀ഊknown as switchel and used for harvests in the Colonies and Eastern ਀䌀愀渀愀搀愀 椀渀 琀栀攀 氀愀琀攀 猀攀瘀攀渀琀攀攀渀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀  ഊ ਀ 愀琀 紀ⴀ㸀ⴀ  吀椀渀渀攀  㬀⤀ 䰀愀甀最栀琀攀爀 䠀攀愀氀猀 㬀䐀 ⴀ㰀ⴀ笀 愀琀 ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀搀昀爀 愀琀 焀甀愀搀猀⸀甀挀栀椀挀愀最漀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀搀愀瘀椀搀 搀椀爀攀挀琀漀爀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀⤀ഊSubject: Period Iced Drinks ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 䌀栀椀挀愀最漀ഊDate: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 03:27:55 GMT ਀ഊIced Drinks ਀ഊFor those who are curious about whether and when iced drinks were ਀甀猀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 ⸀⸀Ⰰ⸀ ⸀ 吀栀攀 开䄀椀渀 䤀 䄀欀戀愀爀椀开Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 䤀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 椀渀 愀渀ഊearlier post, reports that the use of snow and ice dates from about ਀㄀㔀㠀㘀⸀ ∀䄀氀氀 爀愀渀欀猀 甀猀攀 椀挀攀 椀渀 猀甀洀洀攀爀㬀 琀栀攀 渀漀戀氀攀猀 甀猀攀 椀琀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀ഊwhole year." The _Ain_ does not say what it is used for, but the ਀瀀愀猀猀愀最攀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 搀攀愀氀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀 眀愀礀 漀昀 挀漀漀氀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 猀漀 䤀ഊthink it is a fair guess that the ice is being used for cold drinks. ਀ഊI do not think one can deduce from this that snow and ice were not ਀甀猀攀搀 攀愀爀氀椀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀 瀀愀猀猀愀最攀 搀愀琀攀猀 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 猀渀漀眀 愀渀搀 椀挀攀 猀椀渀挀攀 ∀琀栀攀ഊimperial standards were erected in the Punjab." That may mean that ਀琀栀攀 䴀甀最栀愀氀猀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 椀洀瀀漀爀琀椀渀最 椀挀攀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀渀焀甀攀爀攀搀 猀漀洀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 琀栀愀琀ഊwas a convenient source--in which case other people controlling (or ਀琀爀愀搀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀⤀ 愀瀀瀀爀漀瀀爀椀愀琀攀 爀攀愀氀 攀猀琀愀琀攀 洀椀最栀琀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀ഊearlier. I have been told that the Romans used flavored snow, but do ਀渀漀琀 欀渀漀眀 椀昀 椀琀 椀猀 琀爀甀攀⸀ 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 挀椀琀攀猀 昀漀爀 椀挀攀搀ഊdrinks? ਀ഊThe author gives prices of ice brought in boats (the cheapest method) ਀爀愀渀最椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 ㌀ ㈀㄀⼀㈀㔀 搀愀洀猀 ⠀搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 眀椀渀琀攀爀⤀ 琀漀 ㄀㐀 㐀⼀㔀 搀愀洀猀 ⠀搀甀爀椀渀最ഊthe rains) per ser (about a Kilo). By comparison, refined sugar cost ਀㘀 搀愀洀猀⼀猀攀爀⸀ 匀愀昀昀爀漀渀 挀漀猀琀 㐀   搀愀洀猀⼀猀攀爀⸀ 匀漀甀爀 氀椀洀攀猀 挀漀猀琀 㘀 搀愀洀猀⼀猀攀爀⸀ഊThe Dam was a copper coin, equal to 1/40 rupee. The rupee was a ਀猀椀氀瘀攀爀 挀漀椀渀 愀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀 眀攀椀最栀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 ㄀㄀⸀㔀 最爀愀洀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 䴀甀最栀愀氀猀 愀氀猀漀 栀愀搀 挀栀攀洀椀挀愀氀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䄀瀀瀀愀爀攀渀琀氀礀Ⰰ 搀椀猀猀漀氀瘀椀渀最ഊsaltpetre in water is an endothermic reaction. The way you get cold ਀眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 琀漀 瀀甀琀 ㄀ 猀攀爀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀渀 愀 挀氀漀猀攀搀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 瀀甀琀 ㈀ ㄀⼀㈀ഊsers of saltpetre into a vessel with 5 sers of water, and stir the ਀挀氀漀猀攀搀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀攀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 昀漀爀 愀 焀甀愀爀琀攀爀 漀昀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀ഊthe water in the container will become cold. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀漀爀氀椀猀猀 愀琀 栀愀氀⸀倀䠀礀猀椀挀猀⸀眀愀礀渀攀⸀䔀䐀唀 ⠀䐀愀瘀椀搀 䨀⸀ 䌀漀爀氀椀猀猀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䌀漀氀搀 搀爀椀渀欀猀ഊDate: 18 Oct 1994 13:32:42 -0400 ਀ഊHis Grace Cariadoc writes of an account of ice and snow being used to cool ਀搀爀椀渀欀猀 搀愀琀椀渀最 琀漀 ㄀㔀㠀㘀⸀ 䄀氀氀漀眀 洀攀 琀漀 愀搀搀 愀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 愀挀挀漀甀渀琀 ⠀琀栀攀 攀砀愀挀琀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀ഊwill have to wait until tomorrow: I will need to go and look it up) ਀琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀攀昀攀愀琀 愀琀 䠀愀琀琀椀渀Ⰰ 匀愀氀愀栀 愀氀ⴀ䐀椀渀Ⰰ 欀渀漀眀渀 琀漀 琀栀攀 昀爀愀渀欀猀 愀猀ഊSaladin, immediately offered his guest Guy de Lusignan a glass of rosewater ਀挀漀漀氀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 猀渀漀眀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 甀渀搀攀爀猀琀漀漀搀Ⰰ 愀瀀愀爀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 漀戀瘀椀漀甀猀 挀漀甀爀琀攀猀礀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀ഊto give an enemy drink was a sign that his life was safe. Consequently, when ਀琀栀攀 渀漀戀氀攀 䜀甀礀 搀爀愀渀欀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 瀀愀猀猀攀搀 琀栀攀 最氀愀猀猀 琀漀 漀渀攀 漀昀 栀椀猀 洀甀爀搀攀爀漀甀猀ഊco-workers (I forget which one), who was guilty of many atrocities, Salah ਀愀氀ⴀ䐀椀渀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 琀漀氀搀 栀椀猀 椀渀琀攀爀瀀爀攀琀攀爀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 瘀攀爀礀 挀氀攀愀爀 琀栀愀琀 䜀甀礀 栀愀搀ഊgiven him the rosewater, not Salah al-Din. ਀ഊBeorthwine of Grafham Wood ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 挀爀漀甀挀栀攀琀 愀琀 攀搀攀渀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀樀愀洀攀猀 挀爀漀甀挀栀攀琀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 一漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀爀攀眀猀ഊDate: 5 Jan 1995 16:25:25 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 䄀搀栀攀猀椀瘀攀 䴀攀搀椀愀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀ഊ ਀刀漀戀 匀琀甀爀琀攀瘀愀渀琀 ⠀刀漀戀⸀匀琀甀爀琀攀瘀愀渀琀 愀琀 搀琀开眀漀渀最礀⸀眀洀攀漀渀氀椀渀⸀猀愀挀戀戀砀⸀挀漀洀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀㨀         䄀猀 漀渀攀 眀栀漀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 搀爀椀渀欀Ⰰ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 ⨀眀栀漀氀攀⨀ 氀漀琀 漀昀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀 椀渀ഊ: mead ਀㨀 漀爀 戀攀攀爀⸀⸀⸀  䈀甀琀 眀愀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀渀礀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 戀爀攀眀椀渀最 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀㼀  匀甀挀栀 愀猀 爀漀漀琀ഊ: beer or ginger ale? Could anyone guide me towards sources for such ਀㨀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀㼀ഊ: Many thanks :) ਀ഊ: Sasha Ivanovitch ਀㨀         爀漀戀⸀猀琀甀爀琀攀瘀愀渀琀 愀琀 搀琀开眀漀渀最礀⸀眀洀攀漀渀氀椀渀⸀猀愀挀戀戀砀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 爀漀漀琀 戀攀攀爀 愀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀 愀氀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 焀甀椀琀攀 愀猀 瀀漀琀攀渀琀 椀渀 ഊalchohol and other beer and ale. The soft drinks we have now are just a ਀瀀愀氀攀 椀洀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀愀氀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀猀⸀ 刀漀漀琀 戀攀攀爀 栀愀猀 愀 猀琀爀漀渀最 猀愀猀猀愀昀爀愀猀猀 愀渀搀 ഊbeer like flavor. Ginger ale is similarly flavored but with a trur ਀最椀渀最攀爀 琀眀愀渀最 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀愀猀猀愀昀爀愀猀ⴀ氀椀挀漀爀椀挀攀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀⸀  䈀漀琀栀 琀愀欀攀 猀漀洀攀 ഊgetting use to. ਀ഊI suspect the kind of drinks you are looking for are more the product of ਀洀椀砀椀渀最 琀栀愀渀 戀爀攀眀椀渀最⸀ 䌀栀攀挀欀 椀渀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 漀昀琀攀渀 ഊcontain drink recipes. ਀ഊSavian ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊFrom: rzex60 at email.sps.mot.com (Jay Brandt) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀ഊOrganization: Motorola ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ 㐀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㄀㠀㨀㔀㌀㨀㈀  䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀氀漀爀椀渀愀⸀猀琀攀瀀栀攀渀猀 愀琀 愀洀戀愀猀猀愀搀漀爀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䰀漀爀椀渀愀 匀琀攀瀀栀攀渀猀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>If you're looking for non-alcholic,... ਀ഊAnother pleasant and inexpensive period, non-alcoholic beverage is ਀䌀漀爀椀愀渀搀攀爀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀 琀愀猀琀攀 椀猀 猀甀戀琀氀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 焀甀椀琀攀 瀀氀攀愀猀愀渀琀⸀ 䌀漀爀椀愀渀搀攀爀 椀猀 愀ഊspice readily available in many grocery stores. It is a hard, round seed ਀琀栀愀琀 氀漀漀欀猀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 氀椀欀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 戀爀漀眀渀 戀愀氀氀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 栀愀氀昀 琀漀 漀渀攀ⴀ琀栀椀爀搀 琀栀攀ഊsize of a green pea. A Viscountess I knew many years ago (in AS 12 or so) ਀猀愀椀搀 猀栀攀 栀愀搀 昀漀甀渀搀 爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀漀 眀愀琀攀爀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 䌀漀爀椀愀渀搀攀爀⸀ഊThe way she did it was to place the seeds whole in a pitcher of water, ਀瀀爀攀昀攀爀愀戀氀礀 漀瘀攀爀渀椀最栀琀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最Ⰰ 搀攀挀愀渀琀 挀愀爀攀昀甀氀氀礀 猀漀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀攀搀猀ഊremain in the pitcher. They can be re-used several times at a given event ਀戀礀 爀攀昀椀氀氀椀渀最 琀栀攀 瀀椀琀挀栀攀爀⸀ 伀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 猀攀攀搀猀 愀爀攀 猀漀愀欀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 眀椀氀氀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊfresh water quite readily. Rinse out and discard the seeds at the end of ਀琀栀攀 攀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀 猀瀀漀椀氀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀攀挀愀渀琀攀爀⸀ഊ-- ਀刀攀最愀爀搀猀Ⰰ 䨀愀礀 䈀爀愀渀搀琀                            㰀爀稀攀砀㘀  愀琀 攀洀愀椀氀⸀猀瀀猀⸀洀漀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊIn the SCA, HLS Jason of Rosaria, JdL, GdS, AoA (Member # 3016) ਀伀眀渀攀爀⼀䌀爀愀昀琀猀洀愀渀            䈀攀愀爀 倀愀眀 圀漀漀搀眀漀爀欀猀           䄀甀猀琀椀渀Ⰰ 吀攀砀愀猀 唀匀䄀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: brendt.hess at nwcs.org (Brendt Hess) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: sassafras ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 䴀愀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㔀 ㄀㜀㨀㐀㄀㨀   䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: NWCS Online * Oregon USA ਀ഊOn the question of sassafras and root beer being period, I came across ਀愀渀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最 挀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 愀渀 甀渀攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 猀漀甀爀挀攀 椀渀搀椀挀愀琀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 椀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 琀栀椀猀 洀漀渀琀栀✀猀 开䐀椀猀挀漀瘀攀爀开 洀愀最愀稀椀渀攀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 搀攀挀氀椀渀攀 漀昀ഊthe Cod fishery on the Atlantic coast, it is mentioned that the fishery ਀漀昀昀 漀昀 䌀愀瀀攀 䌀漀搀 眀愀猀 搀椀猀挀漀瘀攀爀攀搀 椀渀 ㄀㘀 ㌀ 戀礀 愀 猀栀椀瀀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 栀甀渀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀ഊsassafras. Seems that it was popular as a cure for syphilis. ਀ഊNow, whether or not root beer was period is a different question, but if ਀攀砀瀀攀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀 眀攀爀攀 栀甀渀琀椀渀最 昀漀爀 猀愀猀猀愀昀爀愀猀 椀渀 ㄀㘀 ㌀Ⰰ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 眀椀氀氀椀渀最 琀漀ഊbelieve that the use of the plant was already fairly widespread. ਀ഊM. Vergilius ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䰀⸀ 䠀䔀刀刀ⴀ䜀䔀䰀䄀吀吀 愀渀搀 䨀⸀刀⸀ 䜀䔀䰀䄀吀吀∀ 㰀氀椀漀渀琀愀洀爀 愀琀 瀀漀猀琀漀昀昀椀挀攀⸀瀀琀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 圀䄀一吀䔀䐀㨀 一漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 䈀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀 匀漀甀爀挀攀猀⼀刀攀挀椀瀀椀攀猀ഊDate: 31 May 1996 19:56:46 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 倀爀漀䰀漀最 ⴀ 倀攀渀吀攀氀攀䐀愀琀愀Ⰰ 䤀渀挀⸀ഊ ਀䠀椀℀ 䄀漀椀昀攀 䠀攀爀攀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 愀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀Ⰰ ∀匀栀攀爀戀攀琀∀Ⰰ ∀䘀爀甀椀琀 嘀椀渀攀最愀爀∀ 漀爀 ∀匀栀爀甀戀∀ ഊas it is known in Jolly Old England. This one was simply gobbled up at ਀琀栀攀 䬀渀漀眀渀 圀漀爀氀搀 倀愀爀琀礀 氀愀猀琀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀⸀ 䤀琀 眀漀爀欀猀 戀攀猀琀 眀椀琀栀 爀愀猀瀀戀攀爀爀椀攀猀 漀爀 ഊblackberries. Blueberries are good, but the beverage does not turn blue ਀⠀椀琀 椀猀 挀氀攀愀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 琀愀猀琀攀猀 欀椀渀搀愀 ∀最爀攀攀渀∀⤀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 琀爀椀攀搀 ഊstrawberries, either.It also has the added virtue of being extremely ਀猀椀洀瀀氀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀℀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 䘀爀甀椀琀 嘀椀渀攀最愀爀㨀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 攀焀甀愀氀 瀀愀爀琀猀 ⠀戀礀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀⤀ 漀昀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 ⠀眀栀椀琀攀 漀爀 挀椀搀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀爀 ഊfavorite soft fruit.Lightly mash the fruit (stones or large seeds ਀爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⤀Ⰰ 瀀漀甀爀 漀渀 琀栀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀 琀椀最栀琀氀礀⸀ 䔀瘀攀爀礀 搀愀礀 昀漀爀 㔀 搀愀礀猀Ⰰ ഊstir the mixture in the morning and at night. After 5 days, pour the ਀瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 椀渀琀漀 愀 猀琀爀愀椀渀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 愀 戀漀眀氀 戀攀渀攀愀琀栀⸀ 匀焀甀攀攀稀攀 琀栀攀 昀爀甀椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 ഊspoon or your hands to extract ALL the juice. Discard the fruit. ਀ഊTo make the Fruit Syrup from your Fruit Vinegar, add equal amounts of ਀猀甀最愀爀 ⠀戀礀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀⤀ 愀猀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 昀爀甀椀琀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀⸀ 匀琀椀爀 最攀渀琀氀礀 甀渀琀椀氀 猀甀最愀爀 椀猀 ഊdissolved. This in itself is a good sauce for summer desserts. this will ਀猀琀漀爀攀 昀漀爀 洀漀渀琀栀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀氀昀 眀椀琀栀 渀漀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 匀洀愀氀氀 䰀甀洀瀀猀 洀愀礀 昀漀爀洀 ഊdue to pectin. This is OK, they will dissolve. ਀ഊTo make Sherbet (ie: Shrub) from your syrup, pour 1/2 oz of syrup over ਀眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 椀挀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀 琀漀琀愀氀 漀昀 㠀 漀稀猀 ⠀琀栀愀琀✀猀 ㄀⼀㈀ 漀稀 猀礀爀甀瀀 琀漀 愀戀漀甀琀 㜀 漀稀 ഊof cold liquid). Bubbly water makes this even nicer. Adjust the amount of ਀猀礀爀甀瀀 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀漀漀 洀甀挀栀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀 眀愀愀愀愀愀礀 琀漀漀 ഊintense. ਀ഊAoife ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀    ㌀㤀  㤀㐀㌀ 愀琀 洀挀椀洀愀椀氀⸀䌀伀䴀 ⠀䴀愀爀氀愀 䰀攀挀椀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 栀攀氀瀀 眀椀琀栀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊDate: 17 Jun 1996 17:37:29 -0400 ਀ഊ>About a month ago there was posted a recipe for a drink using vinegar, grape ਀㸀樀甀椀挀攀Ⰰ 挀氀漀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀Ⰰ 䤀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀Ⰰ 眀愀琀攀爀⸀  䤀 琀爀椀攀搀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 愀渀搀 椀琀 眀愀猀 ഊ>very good. Unfortunately, I lost my copy of the recipe. ਀ഊ>Could someone either e-mail it to me or repost it. ਀ഊ>Willem ਀㸀ⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ>Stonewall Van Wie III svanwie at davlin.net ਀ഊHere it is: ਀ഊSimmer a bag containing 1 cinnamon stick, 2 cloves, 1/8 tsp. pepper, ਀愀渀搀 ㄀⼀㠀 琀猀瀀⸀ 渀甀琀洀攀最 椀渀 ㌀ 挀甀瀀猀 漀昀 爀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 昀漀爀 ㌀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⸀ഊ(An emptied tea bag works well; staple it shut after you fill it with ਀琀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䴀椀砀 ㄀ 挀甀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 眀椀琀栀 ㄀ 最愀氀氀漀渀 爀攀搀 最爀愀瀀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 愀渀搀 ㄀ 最愀氀氀漀渀ഊwater. (If this is too tart for you, you may prefer to use less vinegar, ਀漀爀 洀漀爀攀 最爀愀瀀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 瀀爀漀瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀猀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䨀攀猀猀愀 搀✀䄀瘀漀渀搀愀氀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 18:18:59 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀栀椀氀椀瀀 圀⸀ 吀爀漀礀∀ 㰀琀爀漀礀 愀琀 愀猀愀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊTo: sca-cooks at eden.com ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䠀漀琀 䐀爀椀渀欀猀ഊ ਀䴀愀爀欀 䠀愀爀爀椀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀 ഊ> Adamantius said: ਀㸀 ഊ> Then again, how about egg nog, either commercial or the real stuff, made ਀㸀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 愀氀挀漀栀漀氀㼀 倀爀攀琀琀礀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀猀猀攀琀 漀爀 挀愀甀搀氀攀ഊ> beverages from late period, comparatively nutritious, and fairly ਀㸀 昀椀氀氀椀渀最⸀ 䄀猀 眀椀琀栀 挀愀甀搀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 瀀漀猀猀攀琀猀Ⰰ 愀 洀攀愀氀 椀渀 愀 洀甀最Ⰰ 甀渀搀攀爀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀ഊ> circumstances. ਀㸀 ഊ> >>>> ਀㸀 䠀洀洀⸀ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 䤀✀瘀攀 最漀琀 洀愀渀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 椀渀 洀礀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀琀 愀氀氀⸀ 䌀漀甀氀搀ഊ> you give some period recipes and redactions? I'd like to add them ਀㸀 琀漀 洀礀 昀椀氀攀猀 漀爀 挀爀攀愀琀攀 愀 渀攀眀 昀椀氀攀⸀ 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀洀ഊ> for myself, but then I don't care for eggnog either. ਀㸀 ഊ> What is the differance between a caudle and a posset? ਀㸀 ഊ> Stefan li Rous ਀㸀   洀愀爀欀栀 愀琀 爀椀猀挀⸀猀瀀猀⸀洀漀琀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 渀漀 栀愀爀搀 愀渀搀 昀愀猀琀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀猀㬀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 琀栀攀 攀愀猀椀攀猀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 戀礀 渀漀ഊmeans foolproof distinction would be to say that a caudle is thickened ਀眀椀琀栀 攀最最猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 瀀漀猀猀攀琀 眀椀琀栀 最爀愀椀渀 ⠀甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 漀愀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 愀氀眀愀礀猀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀ഊare both possets and caudles that contain both, and they may or may not ਀戀攀 猀眀攀攀琀攀渀攀搀⸀ 䄀 瀀漀猀猀攀琀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 琀漀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀 洀椀氀欀 琀栀愀渀 愀 挀愀甀搀氀攀ഊis.There are various recipes in the Forme of Cury for caudles of various ਀琀礀瀀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀愀挀栀攀搀 琀栀攀 栀攀椀最栀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀椀爀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀椀琀礀 椀渀ഊthe Elizabethan age. They lasted at least until the late 17th century; I ਀戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 倀攀瀀礀猀 搀爀愀渀欀 琀栀攀洀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 戀愀猀椀挀 挀愀甀搀氀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 氀椀欀攀 琀栀椀猀㨀 ഊ ਀㈀ 挀甀瀀猀 眀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀 漀爀 愀氀攀 ⠀愀 氀椀最栀琀氀礀 栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 戀漀挀欀 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀℀⤀ഊ8 egg yolks ਀㄀⼀㈀ 挀甀瀀 猀甀最愀爀ഊ1 whole nutmeg, quartered, or grated nutmeg garnish ਀ഊCombine all and beat in a large bowl on a double boiler until thick. The ਀最攀渀攀爀愀氀 爀甀氀攀 昀漀爀 挀甀猀琀愀爀搀猀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 琀礀瀀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 挀漀愀琀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀 漀昀ഊa spoon when it is done. Some cooks just bring it to 140˚ F and hope for ਀琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀⸀ 刀攀洀漀瘀攀 渀甀琀洀攀最 焀甀愀爀琀攀爀猀 椀昀 甀猀攀搀⸀ 匀攀爀瘀攀 椀渀 洀甀最猀 漀爀 戀漀眀氀猀 眀椀琀栀ഊgrated nutmeg if you didn't use the quarters. Serves 4 - 6, depending on ਀眀栀攀琀栀攀爀 礀漀甀 氀椀欀攀 琀栀椀猀 猀漀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 洀愀樀漀爀 搀攀瀀愀爀琀甀爀攀 昀爀漀洀 瀀爀漀瀀攀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 琀攀挀栀渀椀焀甀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀琀氀礀ഊemploy is the beating in a double boiler. Period recipes generally call ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀 琀漀 戀攀 戀攀愀琀攀渀  琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 戀爀漀甀最栀琀 琀漀 愀 猀椀洀洀攀爀ഊuntil thick. This method produces more curdled lumps than my method, ਀眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀 愀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 稀愀戀愀最氀椀漀渀攀 漀爀 眀攀椀渀猀挀栀愀甀洀⸀ 匀漀洀攀ഊpeople claim the name "caudle" has common roots with the word "curdle". ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀ 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 椀琀✀猀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 琀漀 戀攀 挀漀渀渀攀挀琀攀搀ഊto the French "chaud", meaning "hot". ਀ഊCheck sources like Markham, Digby, Plat, Dawson, or Murrell for ਀氀愀琀攀ⴀ瀀攀爀椀漀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⸀ 倀漀猀猀攀琀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀㬀 琀栀攀礀ഊsurvive today in the form of the various sweet Scottish broses. ਀ഊHappy bibation, but don't forget the libation... ਀䄀搀愀洀愀渀琀椀甀猀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: Stephen Bloch ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 攀搀攀渀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: sca-cooks Re: Re(2): New to List ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀  䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀ 㨀㔀㤀㨀㌀㘀 ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䔀䐀吀⤀ഊ ਀㸀 伀欀Ⰰ 戀攀椀渀最 琀栀攀 渀攀眀 欀椀搀 漀渀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀挀欀Ⰰ 䤀✀氀氀 戀椀琀攀 ⴀⴀ 眀栀愀琀✀猀 最爀愀渀愀琀甀猀㼀ഊ ਀倀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀  吀栀攀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䄀爀愀戀椀挀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀ഊfor drink syrups: mix some kind of flavoring with water and sugar, ਀爀攀搀甀挀攀 椀琀 琀漀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 欀攀攀瀀 甀渀爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 眀攀攀欀猀 漀爀ഊmonths. To serve, dilute with hot or cold water; ratios aren't ਀猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 愀渀礀眀栀攀爀攀 昀爀漀洀 ㄀㨀㐀 琀漀 ㄀㨀㄀ ഊworks, depending on the flavor and the purpose (e.g. weaker is generally ਀戀攀琀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 昀椀最栀琀攀爀猀 挀漀洀椀渀最 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀攀氀搀 漀渀 愀 㤀 ⴀ䘀 搀愀礀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 最爀愀渀愀琀甀猀 椀渀 瀀愀爀琀椀挀甀氀愀爀Ⰰ 洀椀砀 ㄀ 漀爀 ㈀ 瀀愀爀琀猀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 ⠀攀椀琀栀攀爀ഊprebottled, as one can find easily in my Russian Jewish neighborhood, ਀漀爀 猀焀甀攀攀稀攀 礀漀甀爀 漀眀渀⤀ 眀椀琀栀 ㄀ 瀀愀爀琀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 戀爀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀椀洀洀攀爀ഊuncovered for half an hour or more. ਀ऀऀऀऀऀ匀琀攀瘀攀 ⼀ 䨀漀猀栀甀愀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: L Herr-Gelatt and J R Gelatt ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 攀搀攀渀⸀挀漀洀ഊSubject: Cold Drinks (Was: Hot Drinks) ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀  䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀  㜀㨀㐀㄀㨀㐀㌀ ⴀ 㔀   ⠀䌀䐀吀⤀ഊ ਀䤀 爀攀挀攀渀琀氀礀 搀椀搀 愀 ∀刀甀猀猀椀愀渀∀ 䔀瘀攀渀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 ∀䠀漀渀攀礀 圀愀琀攀爀∀⸀ 䄀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀ഊno recipe, I did find referances to it (which I can dig out ((I hope)) if ਀愀渀礀漀渀攀 椀猀 昀爀愀渀琀椀挀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 漀昀昀 氀椀渀攀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀 攀猀猀攀渀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀ഊenergetic young serfs would get a big vessel and mix honey in it, and the ਀挀漀洀瀀氀愀椀渀琀 䤀 爀攀愀搀 眀愀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 漀爀愀渀最攀 漀爀 氀攀洀漀渀 眀愀猀 ∀眀愀椀瘀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀 琀栀攀 琀漀瀀∀Ⰰഊjustifying the name orange (or lemon) Honey Water. This was sold on street ਀挀漀爀渀攀爀猀 椀渀 挀椀琀礀 洀愀爀欀攀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀洀愀稀椀渀最氀礀 椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 猀漀氀搀 漀渀 猀琀爀攀攀琀 挀漀爀渀攀爀猀 椀渀ഊcity markets today in Russia (a friend went there recently on business and ਀瀀愀爀琀漀漀欀⤀⸀ 䴀礀 刀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀㨀  ㈀ 最愀氀氀漀渀猀 瘀攀爀礀 挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ ㄀ 挀甀瀀 昀椀渀攀 栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀ഊpound of fruit, sliced thinly. Mix well, add ice if you have it, and let ਀猀琀愀渀搀  漀渀 琀栀攀 猀攀爀瘀椀渀最 琀愀戀氀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 戀爀椀渀最猀 礀漀甀 愀渀 攀洀瀀琀礀 瘀攀猀猀攀氀 愀渀搀ഊsays "can we have some more?" ਀ഊLady Aoife Finn of Ynos Mon ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 渀眀攀搀攀爀猀 愀琀 洀愀椀氀⸀甀琀攀砀愀猀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀一䐀 圀攀搀攀爀猀琀爀愀渀搀琀⤀ഊDate: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 07:47:41 -0500 (CDT) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䈀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀  ഊ ਀        圀攀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 琀愀氀欀攀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀 椀渀 愀 眀栀椀氀攀Ⰰ  䈀甀琀 䤀 眀愀猀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最ഊthrough the current Martha Stewart's Living (a true period source) and ਀琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 一漀爀眀攀最椀愀渀 匀愀昀琀 漀爀 昀爀甀椀琀 搀爀椀渀欀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 洀愀搀攀 漀昀ഊvarieties of mixed berries and soft fruit, sugar and water. The fruit is ਀挀漀漀欀攀搀Ⰰ 猀琀爀愀椀渀攀搀 琀栀攀 猀甀最愀爀 愀搀搀攀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 椀琀 椀猀 戀漀琀琀氀攀搀⸀  圀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀 漀瀀攀渀 椀琀ഊthey cut the mix with a ratio of one part saft to four parts water. The ਀昀愀洀椀氀礀 琀栀攀礀 椀渀琀攀爀瘀椀攀眀 洀愀欀攀 愀 礀攀愀爀猀 眀漀爀琀栀 愀渀搀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀琀 愀氀氀 礀攀愀爀 爀漀甀渀搀⸀ഊThought I'd pass this on as it's a good thing. ਀ഊClare ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䰀 䠀攀爀爀ⴀ䜀攀氀愀琀琀 愀渀搀 䨀 刀 䜀攀氀愀琀琀 㰀氀椀漀渀琀愀洀爀 愀琀 瀀漀猀琀漀昀昀椀挀攀⸀瀀琀搀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊDate: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:04:40 -0500 (CDT) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 猀挀ⴀ氀椀焀攀甀爀猀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊOn a related topic (extracting flavors for drinks), has anyone tried those ਀昀爀甀椀琀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 搀爀椀渀欀猀㼀 䤀琀✀猀 愀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 挀漀洀戀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀ⴀⴀ戀攀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 愀渀搀ഊsugar. I made a Raspberry Vinegar syrup, Black Raspberry Vinegar syrup, and ਀愀 䈀氀甀攀戀攀爀爀礀 嘀椀渀攀最愀爀 猀礀爀甀瀀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀 䬀渀漀眀渀 圀漀爀氀搀 倀攀渀渀猀椀挀 倀愀爀琀礀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 栀攀氀搀ഊin front of the Store next to Chatelaine's Point 2 years ago. ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀㨀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 攀焀甀愀氀 愀洀漀甀渀琀猀 漀昀 ⠀爀愀猀瀀ⴀ戀氀甀攀ⴀ戀氀愀挀欀⤀ 戀攀爀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 戀礀 瘀漀氀甀洀攀⸀ഊCrush the berries. Pour on the vinegar. Cover tightly. Shake gently once a ਀搀愀礀 昀漀爀 㔀 搀愀礀猀⸀ 䄀琀 琀栀攀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 㔀 搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 猀琀爀愀椀渀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 猀焀甀攀攀稀椀渀最 漀甀琀 愀渀礀ഊexcess juice into the liquid. To the liquid, add equal amounts of sugar by ਀瘀漀氀甀洀攀⸀ 䴀椀砀 眀攀氀氀 ⠀礀漀甀 洀愀礀 栀愀瘀攀 琀漀 䜀䔀一吀䰀夀 栀攀愀琀⤀⸀ 匀琀漀爀攀 椀渀 挀漀氀漀爀攀搀 戀漀琀琀氀攀猀 琀漀ഊprevent color fade. If using blueberries, the color will be pale green (it ਀眀椀氀氀 琀甀爀渀 瀀甀爀瀀氀攀 漀瘀攀爀 愀 氀漀渀最 琀椀洀攀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 挀愀渀 戀攀 猀琀漀爀攀搀 愀琀 爀漀漀洀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀ഊ(even at Pennsic)in a corked bottle. Shake well before using. ਀ഊTo use: Pour as a syrup over plain desserts (very good with steamed or bread ਀瀀甀搀搀椀渀最猀⤀⸀ 䘀漀爀 愀 搀爀椀渀欀㨀 瀀甀琀 ㄀⼀㠀 挀甀瀀 猀礀爀甀瀀 ⠀愀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀⤀ 椀渀琀漀 愀 琀愀氀氀ഊglass. Add 6-8 oz. water or sparkling water. ਀ഊRaspberries and Blackberries are supposed to be good for coughs and sore ਀琀栀爀漀愀琀猀⸀ 夀漀甀 眀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 洀甀挀栀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 礀漀甀爀 欀椀搀猀 琀漀 搀爀椀渀欀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀ഊwhen they have a cold. It's like fruit punch (I tell mine it's medieval ਀䬀漀漀氀ⴀ愀椀搀℀⤀⸀   ഊ ਀䔀渀樀漀礀ⴀⴀⴀ椀琀✀猀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 爀愀猀瀀戀攀爀爀礀 猀攀愀猀漀渀ഊ ਀䄀漀椀昀攀ⴀⴀⴀ挀甀爀猀椀渀最 琀栀攀 最甀礀猀 眀栀漀 琀爀椀洀洀攀搀 琀栀攀 琀爀攀攀猀 愀眀愀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 攀氀攀挀琀爀椀挀 氀椀渀攀猀ഊand trampled the wild raspberry canes in the process. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ  ㌀ 匀攀瀀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㔀㨀㈀㈀㨀㐀㔀 䜀䴀吀ഊFrom: zarlor at acm.org (Lenny Zimmermann) ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 刀攀㨀 䠀攀氀瀀 䤀 渀攀攀搀 搀爀椀渀欀猀℀ഊ ਀䤀 欀攀攀瀀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀ഊin Northern Italy in the early-mid 16th Century. Of course most of ਀眀栀愀琀 䤀 挀漀洀攀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 最漀攀猀 爀椀最栀琀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 倀氀愀琀椀渀愀 ⠀甀渀琀椀氀 䤀 挀愀渀 瀀甀琀 洀礀ഊnon-existant Italian Language skills to work on Christoforo ਀䴀攀猀猀椀猀戀甀最漀✀猀 ∀䰀椀戀爀漀 一漀瘀愀∀⤀⸀ 倀氀愀琀椀渀愀 搀漀攀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 昀攀眀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀ഊmedicinal drinks, which are reminiscent of a soup or tea. ਀ഊHe gives some indication about fruit juice drinks, but I cannot be ਀挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 椀昀 栀攀 洀攀愀渀猀 漀渀氀礀 眀椀渀攀Ⰰ 漀爀 栀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 昀爀甀椀琀 樀甀椀挀攀 栀攀爀攀 愀猀ഊwell. From his section On Grapes: "Some are pleased to liken it to a ਀戀攀爀爀礀Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 琀栀攀 椀瘀礀 戀攀爀爀礀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀氀搀攀爀戀攀爀爀礀㬀 䤀琀 椀猀 渀漀琀 搀椀猀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀ഊthese, if only because it is not lacking in vines, and may be easily ਀洀愀搀攀 椀渀琀漀 愀 搀爀椀渀欀Ⰰ 椀昀 䌀漀氀甀洀攀氀氀愀 椀猀 琀漀 戀攀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀搀⸀∀ 䴀礀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀猀 眀漀甀氀搀ഊbe he is referring to fruit wines. (An interesting note here is that ਀倀氀愀琀椀渀愀 渀攀砀琀 瀀爀漀挀攀攀搀猀 琀漀 最椀瘀攀 椀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 最爀漀眀椀渀最 猀攀攀搀氀攀猀猀ഊgrapes.) He does go on later in that section to discuss different ਀琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 最爀愀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀攀猀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䄀 戀椀琀 氀愀琀攀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊsection he does say this, however; "Take grapes from the vine and boil ਀爀椀瘀攀爀 眀愀琀攀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 椀猀 爀攀搀甀挀攀搀 琀漀 愀 琀栀椀爀搀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 椀渀 愀ഊjar that has been well plastered so that no air can get in. Then put ਀琀栀椀猀 椀渀 愀 挀漀漀氀 瀀氀愀挀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 猀甀渀 挀愀渀渀漀琀 爀攀愀挀栀 琀栀攀 最爀愀瀀攀猀⸀ 䄀渀搀ഊwhenever you want them, you will find them fresh; If you wish, you may ਀最椀瘀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 愀 猀椀挀欀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 昀漀爀 愀 猀眀攀攀琀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀 倀氀愀琀椀渀愀✀猀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 ∀伀渀 䌀椀琀爀甀猀∀㬀 ∀一漀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 漀甀琀猀琀愀渀搀椀渀最 琀栀愀渀ഊthat of this fruit, of ever importunate stepmothers want to be rid of ਀猀漀洀攀漀渀攀㬀 琀栀攀礀 戀氀攀渀搀 栀攀爀戀猀 愀渀搀 瀀漀椀猀漀渀漀甀猀 眀漀爀搀猀⸀⸀⸀圀栀攀渀 最爀漀甀渀搀 甀瀀 愀渀搀ഊgiven as a drink in wine, it cures liver and spleen disturbances." He ਀挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀猀 漀渀 眀椀琀栀 洀愀礀 漀琀栀攀爀 昀爀甀椀琀猀Ⰰ 甀猀甀愀氀氀礀 漀昀昀攀爀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀椀爀 樀甀椀挀攀ഊis helpful in some way when mixed with wine as a drink. ਀ഊWe do have available to us "On Milk", however. "Goat milks is ਀挀漀渀猀椀搀攀爀攀搀 戀攀猀琀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 椀琀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 猀琀漀洀愀挀栀Ⰰ 琀愀欀攀猀 愀眀愀礀ഊobstructions of the liver and loosens the bowels. Next best is sheeps' ਀洀椀氀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀眀✀猀 洀椀氀欀⸀ 䴀椀氀欀 椀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 椀渀 猀瀀爀椀渀最 琀栀愀渀 椀渀ഊsummer, and in summer better than in autumn or in winder. It should be ਀搀爀甀渀欀 漀渀 愀渀搀 攀洀瀀琀礀 猀琀漀洀愀挀栀Ⰰ 樀甀猀琀 愀猀 椀琀 挀漀洀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 甀搀搀攀爀Ⰰ 漀爀 攀氀猀攀ഊslightly warmed; and one should not eat any other food until the milk ਀栀愀猀 猀攀琀琀氀攀搀 椀渀琀 栀攀 猀琀漀洀愀挀栀⸀ 䤀渀 猀瀀爀椀渀最 漀爀 猀甀洀洀攀爀 椀琀 椀猀 氀攀猀猀 栀愀爀洀昀甀氀ഊdrunk as a first course as curds, for taken after a meal (as is often ਀琀栀攀 挀甀猀琀漀洀⤀ 攀椀琀栀攀爀 猀瀀漀椀氀猀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 漀爀 搀爀愀眀猀 愀氀氀 漀琀栀攀爀 甀渀搀椀最攀猀琀攀搀ഊfood with it to the bottom...When drunk either with sugar or with ਀栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 欀攀瀀琀 昀爀漀洀 猀瀀漀椀氀椀渀最 愀渀搀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 琀愀欀攀渀Ⰰ 愀猀 䤀 猀愀椀搀Ⰰ 漀渀 愀ഊclean and empty stomach because it is often easily converted into ਀琀栀漀猀攀 栀甀洀漀爀猀 琀栀愀琀 瀀爀椀渀挀椀瀀愀氀氀礀 猀攀椀稀攀 甀瀀漀渀 琀栀攀 瀀氀愀挀攀 眀栀攀爀攀 昀漀漀搀ഊsettles." ਀ഊApparently verjuice could be served as a drink, as well. "Verjuice is ਀瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀 昀漀爀 愀渀 甀渀猀攀琀琀氀攀搀 漀爀 栀漀琀 猀琀漀洀愀挀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 琀栀椀爀猀琀礀⸀∀ഊ ਀䘀椀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 栀漀瀀椀渀最 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀 猀栀甀琀ⴀ甀瀀Ⰰ 䤀 眀椀氀氀ഊskip over the medicinal-style teas and soups and go to Platina's main ਀爀攀昀攀爀攀渀挀攀 琀漀 愀 搀爀椀渀欀⸀ ∀伀渀 圀椀渀攀⸀ 䄀 猀甀瀀瀀攀爀 漀爀 氀甀渀挀栀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀猀ഊconsidered not only disagreeable, but indeed unwholesome, for a ਀搀爀愀甀最栀琀 昀漀爀 愀 琀栀椀爀猀琀礀 洀愀渀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 瀀氀攀愀猀椀渀最 琀栀愀渀 昀漀漀搀 昀漀爀 愀 栀甀渀最爀礀 洀愀渀Ⰰഊand more delightful. It is necessary to moisten food and to cool the ਀氀甀渀最猀Ⰰ 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 眀栀愀琀 眀攀 挀漀渀猀甀洀攀 椀猀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 愀渀搀 搀椀最攀猀琀攀搀⸀ഊAndrochides, writing to Alexander, restraining his intemperance, ਀挀愀氀氀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 琀栀攀 戀氀漀漀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀琀栀 眀栀椀挀栀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 琀愀欀攀渀 椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 栀愀猀ഊthe virtue of warming and moistening, and when applied externally, of ਀挀漀漀氀椀渀最 愀渀搀 搀爀礀椀渀最⸀ 一漀眀 椀琀猀 瘀椀爀琀甀攀 椀猀 眀愀爀洀 愀渀搀 洀漀椀猀琀Ⰰ 猀漀 䠀漀洀攀爀 挀愀氀氀攀搀ഊit Aithopa Oinon because it has the element of warmth. Thus it is that ਀渀漀琀栀椀渀最 猀甀挀挀漀爀猀 眀攀愀爀礀 戀漀搀椀攀猀 洀漀爀攀 爀攀愀搀椀氀礀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀愀欀攀渀 椀渀 洀漀搀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀㬀ഊNothing, however, is more harmful if there is no restraint. For ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 搀爀甀渀欀攀渀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 洀攀渀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 琀爀攀洀戀氀椀渀最Ⰰ 眀攀椀最栀攀搀 搀漀眀渀Ⰰ 瀀愀氀氀椀搀Ⰰഊfoul with impurities, forgetful, bleary-eyed, sterile, slow to beget, ਀最爀愀礀ⴀ栀愀椀爀攀搀Ⰰ 戀愀氀搀 愀渀搀 漀氀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀椀爀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 洀甀猀琀 戀攀ഊsome limit, according to the age and season of the year. It is the ਀漀瀀椀渀椀漀渀 漀昀 䌀攀氀猀甀猀 琀栀愀琀 愀猀 漀渀攀 攀愀琀猀 洀漀爀攀 椀渀 眀椀渀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 氀攀猀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊundiluted wine, so in summer by drinking very diluted wine, the thirst ਀椀猀 琀愀欀攀渀 愀眀愀礀 琀漀 欀攀攀瀀 琀栀攀 戀漀搀礀 昀爀漀洀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最㬀 愀渀搀 愀猀 椀渀 猀瀀爀椀渀最 眀攀ഊcombine with our food a thinner drink, so in Autumns, as we enjoy a ਀氀椀琀琀氀攀 洀漀爀攀 猀甀戀猀琀愀渀琀椀愀氀 昀漀漀搀Ⰰ 眀攀 搀爀椀渀欀 氀攀猀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 洀漀爀攀 甀渀搀椀氀甀琀攀搀 眀椀渀攀⸀ഊEspecially to old folk, a purer draught should be given; To children, ਀洀漀爀攀 搀椀氀甀琀攀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀漀 礀漀甀琀栀 愀渀搀 琀栀漀猀攀 漀昀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀Ⰰ 愀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 愀洀漀甀渀琀⸀ 䄀ഊdraught should likewise be taken according to the quality of the ਀爀攀最椀漀渀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀漀搀礀⸀ 吀栀漀猀攀 氀椀瘀椀渀最 椀渀 挀漀氀搀 氀漀挀愀氀攀猀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 搀爀椀渀欀 洀漀爀攀ഊundiluted wine. Those in warm places, more diluted; In temperate ਀瀀氀愀挀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀渀 洀漀搀攀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 吀栀漀猀攀 漀昀 猀愀渀最甀椀渀攀ഊconstitution should drink diluted wine, those sorely vexed with bile ਀猀栀漀甀氀搀 搀爀椀渀欀 琀栀攀椀爀 眀椀渀攀 甀渀洀椀砀攀搀⸀ 吀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 愀爀攀 瀀栀氀攀最洀愀琀椀挀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 搀爀椀渀欀ഊsour wine. Pliny affirms that there are three kinds of wine: the sour, ਀琀栀攀 猀眀攀攀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀⸀⸀⸀圀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀猀Ⰰ 椀昀 琀栀椀渀Ⰰ 漀爀 渀漀琀 琀漀漀 甀渀搀椀氀甀琀攀搀Ⰰഊare more easily digested than the red." ਀ഊHe goes on, but I've probably blabbed on too long already. Hopefully ਀猀漀洀攀漀渀攀 眀椀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 猀琀甀昀昀 愀猀 昀愀猀挀椀渀愀琀椀渀最 愀猀 䤀 搀漀⸀ 㨀ⴀ⤀ഊ ਀䠀漀渀漀猀 匀攀爀瘀椀漀ⰀഊLionardo Acquistapace, Barony of Bjornsborg, Ansteorra ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀愀琀Ⰰ ㄀㠀 伀挀琀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀ 㨀㐀㜀㨀 ㈀ ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 匀洀愀氀氀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀ⴀ✀甀渀瀀氀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㈀㨀㔀㜀 倀䴀 ⴀ 㜀   ㄀ ⼀㄀㘀⼀㤀㜀Ⰰ 䴀愀爀椀猀愀 䠀攀爀稀漀最 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>...Are there any "period" "sodas"? Gingerbeer? Birchbeer? ale... etc? ਀ഊI think that depends on what you mean by "soda." There are slightly ਀愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 昀椀稀稀礀 搀爀椀渀欀猀Ⰰ 猀甀挀栀 愀猀 䬀攀渀攀氀洀 䐀椀最戀礀✀猀 ∀圀攀愀欀 䠀漀渀攀礀 䐀爀椀渀欀Ⰰ∀ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀攀ഊgenerally refer to as small mead and which is flavored with ginger (the ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀 眀愀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 洀椀搀 ㄀㜀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀㬀 䤀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 渀漀 爀攀愀猀漀渀 琀漀 戀攀氀椀攀瘀攀 琀栀愀琀ഊit was a novelty then). My guess is that our sodas evolved from such ਀搀爀椀渀欀猀⸀ 夀漀甀 猀琀愀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 搀爀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 昀椀稀稀礀 搀甀攀 琀漀 䌀伀㈀ 昀爀漀洀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰഊand at some point (I would guess 19th century) you start putting the CO2 in ਀搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 猀愀瘀攀猀 琀栀攀 琀爀漀甀戀氀攀 漀昀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 愀渀搀 最椀瘀攀猀 礀漀甀 愀 搀爀椀渀欀 眀栀椀挀栀ഊis non-alcoholic instead of 1% or so alcohol. ਀ഊFor non-fizzy non-alcoholic drinks, you have sekanjabin and its relatives ਀⠀开䴀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀琀漀 䄀渀漀渀椀洀漀开Ⰰ 愀 ㄀㌀琀栀 挀⸀ 䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀愀渀 挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 栀愀猀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀ഊof them), possibly Platina's Oxymel (it isn't clear if he drank it, or was ਀洀攀爀攀氀礀 猀栀漀眀椀渀最 漀昀昀 栀椀猀 挀氀愀猀猀椀挀愀氀 攀爀甀搀椀琀椀漀渀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 漀昀ഊthe same sort. ਀ഊBut I doubt that there were any completely non-alcoholic fizzy drinks, ਀戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 漀昀 愀渀礀 瀀氀愀甀猀椀戀氀攀 眀愀礀 琀栀攀礀 挀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䈀甀琀ഊperhaps someone else can. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀搀搀昀爀⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:10:29 +0000 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀∀ 㰀栀愀爀瀀攀爀 愀琀 椀搀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Small Feasts-'unpl ਀ഊAnd it came to pass on 18 Oct 97, that david friedman wrote: ਀㸀 䘀漀爀 渀漀渀ⴀ昀椀稀稀礀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀 愀渀搀 椀琀猀ഊ> relatives (_Manuscrito Anonimo_, a 13th c. Andalusian cookbook, has ਀㸀 愀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀⤀Ⰰ 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀礀 倀氀愀琀椀渀愀✀猀 伀砀礀洀攀氀 ⠀椀琀 椀猀渀✀琀 挀氀攀愀爀ഊ> if he drank it, or was merely showing off his classical erudition), ਀㸀 愀渀搀 䤀 猀甀猀瀀攀挀琀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀椀渀最猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 猀漀爀琀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊ> http://www.best.com/~ddfr/ ਀ഊThe "Libro de Guisados" has a recipe for spiced sweetened wine, ਀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀 栀椀瀀瀀漀挀爀愀猀Ⰰ 昀漀氀氀漀眀攀搀 戀礀 眀栀愀琀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀 琀漀 戀攀 愀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 ഊversion made with water. My one attempt at redacting the water ਀瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 渀漀琀 猀甀挀挀攀猀猀昀甀氀⸀  䤀琀 琀愀猀琀攀搀 漀瘀攀爀眀栀攀氀洀椀渀最氀礀 漀昀 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ ഊperhaps because I used cassia, but here is a translation, for those ਀眀栀漀 洀椀最栀琀 挀愀爀攀 琀漀 瀀氀愀礀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 眀椀琀栀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀㌀⸀ 匀倀䤀䌀䔀匀 䘀伀刀 ∀䌀䰀䄀刀䔀䄀∀ഊ ਀吀栀爀攀攀 瀀愀爀琀猀 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀㬀 琀眀漀 瀀愀爀琀猀 挀氀漀瘀攀猀㬀 漀渀攀 瀀愀爀琀 最椀渀最攀爀Ⰰ 愀氀氀 最爀漀甀渀搀 ഊand passed through a hair sieve, and for one azumbre of white ਀眀椀渀攀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 愀渀 漀甀渀挀攀 漀昀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀漀甀渀搀 漀昀 栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 眀攀氀氀 洀椀砀攀搀 愀渀搀 ഊpassed through a sleeve, the linen being quite thick, and strained ਀愀猀 洀愀渀礀 琀椀洀攀猀 愀猀 眀椀氀氀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀攀 挀漀洀攀 漀甀琀 挀氀攀愀爀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀ 䌀䰀䄀刀䔀䄀 伀䘀 圀䄀吀䔀刀ഊ ਀吀漀 漀渀攀 愀稀甀洀戀爀攀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 昀漀甀爀 漀甀渀挀攀猀 漀昀 栀漀渀攀礀㬀 礀漀甀 洀甀猀琀 挀愀猀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 ഊsame spices as for the other clarea; you must bring it to a boil with ਀琀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀栀攀渀 椀琀 椀猀 漀昀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀 礀漀甀 洀甀猀琀 挀愀猀琀 椀渀 ഊthe spices. ਀ഊNotes: ਀ഊRecipe #5 is for hippocras, which differs from clarea in that it uses ਀愀 洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 栀愀氀昀 眀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀 愀渀搀 栀愀氀昀 爀攀搀㬀 愀氀猀漀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 猀眀攀攀琀攀渀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 ഊsugar, not honey. ਀ഊAn "azumbre" is a Spanish measurement which is about equal to 2 ਀氀椀琀攀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀刀甀瀀攀爀琀漀 搀攀 一漀氀愀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 ⨀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀⨀Ⰰ 愀 ഊpound equals 12 ounces. So it seems that, like other precious ਀猀甀戀猀琀愀渀挀攀猀Ⰰ 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 愀爀攀 洀攀愀猀甀爀攀搀 椀渀 琀爀漀礀 漀甀渀挀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䰀愀搀礀 䈀爀椀最栀椀搀 渀椀 䌀栀椀愀爀愀椀渀 漀昀 吀攀琀栀戀愀ഊBarony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom ਀洀欀愀 刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀 ⨀⨀⨀ 栀愀爀瀀攀爀  愀琀  椀搀琀⸀渀攀琀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 20:47:59 PST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀漀攀 吀漀氀戀攀爀琀∀ 㰀樀氀琀㠀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: SC - acid ਀ഊGentles: ਀        䠀攀爀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 搀爀椀渀欀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 愀挀椀搀㨀ഊ ਀㘀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀 昀爀甀椀琀 ⠀挀爀甀猀栀攀搀Ⰰ 戀氀愀挀欀戀攀爀爀椀攀猀 Ⰰ 瀀氀甀洀猀Ⰰ最爀愀瀀攀猀Ⰰ挀栀攀爀爀椀攀猀 攀琀挀⤀ഊ2 1/2 ounces ( about 45 grams ) TARTARIC ACID ਀㄀ 儀甀愀爀琀 挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊ Let stand for 48 hours ਀  匀琀爀愀椀渀⸀ 䐀椀猀挀愀爀搀 猀攀攀搀 攀琀挀⸀ഊ to each cup of juice add 1 cup sugar ਀  猀琀椀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 猀甀最愀爀 椀猀 搀椀猀猀漀氀瘀攀搀 ഊ let stand a few days before bottling. ਀ഊsource : notebook of Julia E. D. Tolbert born ca 1875 ਀ഊnotes : at different times we either used just a cloth or a ਀        昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀 氀漀挀欀 漀渀 樀甀最 ⼀ 樀愀爀⸀ഊ ਀      㨀 琀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀 Ⰰ 搀椀氀甀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 挀漀氀搀 ⠀ 眀攀氀氀 ⤀ 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀ഊ serve over cracked ice if available. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㄀㄀ 䐀攀挀 ㄀㤀㤀㜀 ㄀㈀㨀㌀㜀㨀㐀㌀ ⴀ 㔀   ⠀䔀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: Gretchen M Beck ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀㼀ഊ ਀䔀砀挀攀爀瀀琀猀 昀爀漀洀 椀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀⸀氀椀猀琀猀攀爀瘀⸀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀㨀 ㄀ ⴀ䐀攀挀ⴀ㤀㜀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀爀椀渀欀ഊsuggestions? by jeffrey s heilveil at stude ਀㸀 䄀猀 䤀 昀椀渀愀氀椀稀攀 琀栀攀 搀攀猀猀攀爀琀 昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 䤀 昀椀渀搀 洀礀猀攀氀昀 昀漀爀 眀愀渀琀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ഊ> beverages. Someone said "lemon water" but had no source. If you would ਀㸀 挀愀爀攀 琀漀 猀攀渀搀 洀攀 礀漀甀爀 昀愀瘀漀爀椀琀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 愀瀀瀀爀攀挀椀愀琀攀 椀琀⸀  䤀 渀攀攀搀 漀渀攀 漀爀 琀眀漀ഊ> hot and a few cold beverages. ਀ഊThis isn't period in any way shape or form, but does provide a ਀爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀攀 猀甀戀猀琀椀琀甀攀 昀漀爀 眀椀渀攀㨀ഊ ਀䴀椀砀㨀ഊ1 for 1 red/purple and white frozen grape juice concentrate ਀愀搀搀 ㈀ 挀愀渀猀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 挀愀渀 漀昀 樀甀椀挀攀ഊadd red wine vinegar to taste. (one the order of 1 or 2 tbsp per can) ਀ഊEssentially, the vinegar takes the cloyingly sweet edge off the grape ਀樀甀椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 攀渀搀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀愀猀琀攀猀 猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀ഊde-alchoholized wine. ਀ഊIt's been well received when I've served it. ਀ഊtoodles, margaret ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㈀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㌀㨀㔀㄀㨀㔀㠀 ⴀ 㠀   ⠀倀匀吀⤀ഊFrom: "Mike C. Baker" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀㼀ഊ ਀ⴀ ⴀⴀⴀ䜀爀攀琀挀栀攀渀 䴀 䈀攀挀欀 㰀最爀洀⬀ 愀琀 愀渀搀爀攀眀⸀挀洀甀⸀攀搀甀㸀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> This isn't period in any way shape or form, but does provide a ਀㸀 爀攀愀猀漀渀愀戀氀攀 猀甀戀猀琀椀琀甀攀 昀漀爀 眀椀渀攀㨀ഊ> Mix: ਀㸀 ㄀ 昀漀爀 ㄀ 爀攀搀⼀瀀甀爀瀀氀攀 愀渀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 昀爀漀稀攀渀 最爀愀瀀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 挀漀渀挀攀渀琀爀愀琀攀ഊ> add 2 cans of water for each can of juice ਀㸀 愀搀搀 爀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 琀漀 琀愀猀琀攀⸀ ⠀漀渀攀 琀栀攀 漀爀搀攀爀 漀昀 ㄀ 漀爀 ㈀ 琀戀猀瀀 瀀攀爀 挀愀渀⤀ഊ> Essentially, the vinegar takes the cloyingly sweet edge off ਀㸀 琀栀攀 最爀愀瀀攀 樀甀椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀漀甀 攀渀搀 甀瀀 眀椀琀栀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀愀猀琀攀猀ഊ> similar to de-alchoholized wine. ਀ഊDiabetics or those who for other reasons might not want the extra ਀猀甀最愀爀猀 挀愀渀 猀漀爀琀愀 椀渀瘀攀爀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 ⠀愀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 渀漀 瀀爀漀漀昀 漀昀 甀猀攀 眀椀琀栀椀渀ഊperiod: my proportions were arrived at under small-batch home ਀挀漀渀搀椀琀椀漀渀猀⤀㨀ഊ ਀䘀漀爀 ㌀㈀ 漀甀渀挀攀猀 ⠀愀瀀瀀爀漀砀⸀ 漀渀攀 氀椀琀攀爀⤀ 漀昀 挀漀漀氀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 漀渀攀 琀愀戀氀攀猀瀀漀漀渀ഊof balsamic vinegar. Stir well, serve chilled or "as is". To reduce ਀琀栀攀 ∀攀搀最攀∀ 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 琀愀猀琀攀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 愀渀 漀甀渀挀攀 漀爀 猀漀 漀昀 最爀愀瀀攀 樀甀椀挀攀ഊconcentrate, apple juice, grenadine syrup, or similar. Make in ਀愀搀瘀愀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀 椀渀 ㈀ 氀椀琀攀爀 搀椀猀瀀漀猀愀戀氀攀 猀漀搀愀 戀漀琀琀氀攀猀㬀 漀爀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀攀ഊbottles in advance and add water after arriving on site (reducing ਀眀攀椀最栀琀 琀漀 戀攀 琀爀愀渀猀瀀漀爀琀攀搀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀瘀攀猀㨀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 琀礀瀀攀猀 漀昀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 ⠀洀愀氀琀Ⰰ 挀椀搀攀爀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⤀㬀 栀攀愀琀ഊbefore serving; reduce ratio (3 liter bottle, add more water); etc. ਀ഊ(My first intro to balsamic vinegar was to drink about an ounce, ਀猀琀爀愀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 漀昀昀攀爀攀搀 椀渀 愀 琀愀猀琀椀渀最 最氀愀猀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 琀愀猀琀攀 椀渀琀爀椀最甀攀搀 洀攀Ⰰഊand I began playing around with proportions...) ਀㴀㴀㴀ഊAdieu -- Amra / Pax ... Kihe / TTFN -- Mike ਀⠀愀氀ⴀ匀愀礀礀椀搀⤀ 䄀洀爀 椀戀渀 䴀愀樀椀搀 愀氀ⴀ䈀愀欀爀椀 愀氀ⴀ䄀洀爀愀  ⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:23:04 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀椀搀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Re: sca-cooks V1 #472 ਀ഊAt 2:42 AM -0500 12/12/97, DianaFiona wrote: ਀㸀䄀渀搀 眀栀椀氀攀 琀栀攀 䴀椀猀挀攀氀氀愀渀礀✀猀 搀爀椀渀欀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 椀猀ഊ>fairly small, I seem to remember that the Middle Eastern cookbooks in his ਀㸀挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀猀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀ഊ>above. (Am I remembering correctly, Your Grace?) ਀ഊManuscrito Anonimo (13th c. Andalusian) has a whole chapter on drinks. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ  ㈀ 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㐀㨀㌀㤀㨀 㜀 ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: "Crystal A. Isaac" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀㼀 䰀伀一䜀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 猀漀洀攀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 猀漀爀爀礀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 琀漀漀 氀愀琀攀 昀漀爀 洀漀猀琀 ㄀㈀琀栀 渀椀最栀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀⌀㄀ 䰀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀ഊAdapted from _The French Cook_ by Francois Pierre de La Varenne [Anr ਀攀搀⸀崀 䘀漀爀 䌀栀愀爀氀猀 䄀搀愀洀猀Ⰰ ㄀㘀㔀㐀⸀ ㄀㈀뀀⸀ 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 䴀椀挀爀漀昀椀氀洀猀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀漀渀愀氀⸀ഊ(1653 English translation of the 1651 text). Page 288-9 ਀ഊHow to make lemonade ਀䤀琀 椀猀 洀愀搀攀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 眀愀礀猀Ⰰ 愀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀 搀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀⸀ഊFor to make it with jasmine, you must take of it about two handful, ਀椀渀昀甀猀攀 椀琀 椀渀 琀眀漀 漀爀 琀栀爀攀攀 焀甀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀爀攀 氀攀愀瘀攀 椀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊspace of eight or ten hours; then to one quart of water you shal put fix ਀漀甀渀挀攀猀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀㬀 琀栀漀猀攀 漀昀 漀爀愀渀最攀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀Ⰰ 漀昀 洀甀猀挀愀搀攀 爀漀猀攀猀 ☀ 漀昀 最椀氀氀椀ഊflowers are made after the fame way. For to make that of lemon, take ਀猀漀洀攀 氀攀洀漀渀猀Ⰰ 挀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 樀甀椀挀攀Ⰰ 瀀甀琀 椀琀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀猀 愀戀漀瘀攀ഊsaid, pare another lemon, cut it into slices, put it among this juice, ਀愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 猀甀最愀爀 瀀爀漀瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀⸀ഊThat of orange is made the same way. ਀ഊ1 cup lemon juice ਀㄀ 挀甀瀀 猀甀最愀爀ഊ2 cups water ਀愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀愀氀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀 愀猀 搀攀猀椀爀攀搀ഊ ਀䈀漀椀氀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 猀甀最愀爀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀氀氀漀眀 琀漀 挀漀漀氀 猀氀椀最栀琀氀礀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀ഊlemon juice. Serve cold. The very late recipe (1651) for lemonade ਀椀渀挀氀甀搀攀猀 琀栀攀 愀搀搀椀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀Ⰰ 椀渀挀氀甀搀椀渀最 樀愀猀洀椀渀攀Ⰰ 漀爀愀渀最攀 戀氀漀猀猀漀洀猀Ⰰഊmuscade roses or gilly-flowers. The flowers should be added as an ਀椀渀昀甀猀椀漀渀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 搀爀椀渀欀椀渀最⸀ 刀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 昀氀漀眀攀爀猀 眀椀氀氀ഊcarry wild yeast and will ferment your lemonade if it is not kept under ਀挀漀渀猀琀愀渀琀 爀攀昀爀椀最攀爀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀⌀㈀ 刀漀猀攀 匀漀搀愀ഊAdapted from _The 'Libre de Diversis Medicinis' in the Thornton ਀䴀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀瀀琀 ⠀䴀匀⸀ 䰀椀渀挀漀氀渀 䌀愀琀栀攀搀爀愀氀Ⰰ 䄀⸀㔀⸀㈀⤀开⸀ 䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀最愀爀攀琀 匀椀渀挀氀愀椀爀ഊOgden. Published for the Early English Text Society by Humphrey Milford, ਀伀砀昀漀爀搀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀 倀爀攀猀猀⸀ 䄀洀攀渀 䠀漀甀猀攀Ⰰ 䔀⸀䌀⸀ 㐀⸀ 䔀渀最氀愀渀搀⸀ ㄀㤀㌀㠀⸀ 吀攀砀琀 挀椀爀挀愀ഊearly 1400 CE. Page 60 ਀ഊRose Syrup ਀吀愀欀 愀渀 瘀渀挀攀 漀爀 琀眀愀 漀昀 爀漀猀攀猀 ☀ 猀攀琀栀攀 琀栀愀洀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 琀栀攀 椀樀 瀀愀爀琀椀猀 戀攀ഊsothen in. Than clene it thurgh clathe & do suger ther-to & sethe it to ਀椀琀 戀攀 琀栀椀欀欀 愀猀 栀漀渀礀 ☀ 瘀猀攀 愀猀 琀栀甀 搀漀猀攀 琀栀攀 琀漀琀栀攀爀⸀ 㰀䔀渀搀 儀甀漀琀攀㸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 椀渀琀攀爀瀀爀攀琀愀琀椀漀渀㨀ഊTake an ounce or two of roses and seethe them in twice as much water ਀甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 猀漀昀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 猀琀爀愀椀渀 琀栀攀洀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 挀氀漀琀栀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 猀甀最愀爀⸀ 刀攀搀甀挀攀ഊit until it is the thickness of honey. The use it as you do the other ਀⠀琀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀㼀⤀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀猀漀 愀搀愀瀀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀㨀 䄀渀漀渀礀洀漀甀猀⸀ 开䄀渀 䄀渀漀渀礀洀漀甀猀 䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀愀渀 䌀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊ13th Century. A Complete Translation by Charles Perry of the Arabic ਀䔀搀椀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 䄀洀戀爀漀猀椀漀 䠀甀椀挀椀 䴀椀爀愀渀搀愀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 愀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀ഊTranslation by Elise Flemming, Stephen Bloch, Habib ibn Al-Andalusi and ਀䨀愀渀攀琀 䠀椀渀猀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 吀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀 戀礀 䄀洀戀爀漀猀椀漀 䠀甀椀挀椀 䴀椀爀愀渀搀愀⸀开ഊ©1992 by Charles Perry. Reprinted in A Collection of Medieval and ਀刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀 䌀漀漀欀攀爀礀 䈀漀漀欀猀 戀礀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀Ⰰ 䐀愀瘀椀搀 ⠀匀椀爀 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䈀漀眀⤀ഊPublished privately. Page A-73 ਀ഊSyrup of Fresh Roses, and the Recipe for Making It ਀吀愀欀攀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 昀爀攀猀栀 爀漀猀攀猀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 爀攀洀漀瘀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀椀爀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀ഊthem with boiled water for a day and night, until the water cools and ਀琀栀攀 爀漀猀攀猀 昀愀氀氀 愀瀀愀爀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䌀氀攀愀渀 椀琀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀渀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀ഊit and add to a ratl of sugar. Cook all this until it takes the form of ਀愀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 愀渀 甀焀椀礀愀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀眀漀 漀昀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 㰀䔀渀搀 儀甀漀琀攀㸀ഊ ਀㄀ 琀愀戀攀氀猀瀀漀漀渀 爀漀猀攀 攀砀琀爀愀挀琀ഊ2 oz dried rosehips ਀㄀ 瀀漀甀渀搀 猀甀最愀爀ഊwater to one gallon ਀ഊRose extract can be found at Indian grocery stores. Bring sugar and ਀爀漀猀攀栀椀瀀猀 琀漀 愀 最攀渀琀氀攀 戀漀椀氀 椀渀 ㄀ 漀爀 ㈀ 焀甀愀爀琀猀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀 爀漀猀攀栀椀瀀猀ഊhave given the solution a pleasant pink color. Skim out all the pieces ਀漀昀 爀漀猀攀栀椀瀀猀 ⠀猀琀爀愀椀渀 椀昀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀礀⤀⸀ 䄀搀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 漀渀攀 最愀氀氀漀渀⸀ 䄀氀氀漀眀ഊsolution to cool to 70 degrees, and add rose extract and champagne ਀礀攀愀猀琀⸀ 匀琀椀爀⸀ 䈀漀琀琀氀攀 焀甀椀挀欀氀礀⸀ 䄀氀氀漀眀 琀漀 猀琀愀礀 愀琀 爀漀漀洀 琀攀洀瀀攀爀愀琀甀爀攀 昀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀ഊ3-5 days then keep refregerated. ਀ഊ#3 Lavender Drink ਀䄀搀愀瀀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 䄀渀漀渀礀洀漀甀猀⸀ 开䄀渀 䄀渀漀渀礀洀漀甀猀 䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀愀渀 䌀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 漀昀 琀栀攀 ㄀㌀琀栀ഊCentury. A Complete Translation by Charles Perry of the Arabic Edition ਀漀昀 䄀洀戀爀漀猀椀漀 䠀甀椀挀椀 䴀椀爀愀渀搀愀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 愀猀猀椀猀琀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 愀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 吀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀ഊby Elise Flemming, Stephen Bloch, Habib ibn Al-Andalusi and Janet Hinson ਀漀昀 琀栀攀 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 吀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀 戀礀 䄀洀戀爀漀猀椀漀 䠀甀椀挀椀 䴀椀爀愀渀搀愀⸀开 ꤀㄀㤀㤀㈀ 戀礀 䌀栀愀爀氀攀猀ഊPerry. Reprinted in A Collection of Medieval and Renaissance Cookery ਀䈀漀漀欀猀 戀礀 䘀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀Ⰰ 䐀愀瘀椀搀 ⠀匀椀爀 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䈀漀眀⤀ 倀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 瀀爀椀瘀愀琀攀氀礀⸀ഊPage A-74 ਀ഊ Syrup of Lavender (Halhal) ਀吀愀欀攀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 氀愀瘀攀渀搀攀爀 愀渀搀 挀漀漀欀 椀琀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀猀ഊsubstance comes out. Then take the clear part and add it to a ratl of ਀栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀漀欀 愀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 椀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀 漀昀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 愀渀ഊuqiya and a half of this with three of hot water.... ਀ഊSimmer equal volumes of lavender and sugar in water, dilute for ਀搀爀椀渀欀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀⌀ 㐀 匀瀀椀挀攀搀 倀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 䐀爀椀渀欀ഊAdapted from Anonymous. _An Anonymous Andalusian Cookbook of the 13th ਀䌀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀ 䄀 䌀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 吀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀 戀礀 䌀栀愀爀氀攀猀 倀攀爀爀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䄀爀愀戀椀挀 䔀搀椀琀椀漀渀ഊof Ambrosio Huici Miranda with the assistance of an English Translation ਀戀礀 䔀氀椀猀攀 䘀氀攀洀洀椀渀最Ⰰ 匀琀攀瀀栀攀渀 䈀氀漀挀栀Ⰰ 䠀愀戀椀戀 椀戀渀 䄀氀ⴀ䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀 愀渀搀 䨀愀渀攀琀 䠀椀渀猀漀渀ഊof the Spanish Translation by Ambrosio Huici Miranda._ ©1992 by Charles ਀倀攀爀爀礀⸀ 刀攀瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀 椀渀 䄀 䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 愀渀搀 刀攀渀愀椀猀猀愀渀挀攀 䌀漀漀欀攀爀礀ഊBooks by Friedman, David (Sir Cariadoc of the Bow) Published privately. ਀倀愀最攀 䄀ⴀ㜀㐀ഊ ਀㰀䈀攀最椀渀 儀甀漀琀攀㸀 匀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 倀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀ഊTake a ratl of sour pomegranates and another of sweet pomegranates, and ਀愀搀搀 琀栀攀椀爀 樀甀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀眀漀 爀愀琀氀猀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 挀漀漀欀 愀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 琀愀欀攀猀 琀栀攀ഊconsistency of syrup, and keep until needed. ਀ഊAnd also from Maimonides, Moses (1135-1204 CE). _Maqalah Fi Bayan Ba'D ਀䄀氀ⴀ䄀✀刀愀搀 圀愀ⴀ䄀㬀ⴀ䨀愀眀愀戀 ✀䄀渀栀愀 䴀愀✀䄀洀愀爀 䠀愀ⴀ䠀愀欀爀愀✀䄀栀开⸀ 攀搀椀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀ഊby Leibowitz, JO and Marcus, S. _Moses Maimonides on the Causes and ਀匀礀洀瀀琀漀洀猀 ⠀䴀愀焀愀氀愀栀 䘀椀 䈀愀礀愀渀 䈀愀✀䐀 䄀氀ⴀ䄀✀刀愀搀 圀愀ⴀ䄀㬀ⴀ䨀愀眀愀戀 ✀䄀渀栀愀 䴀愀✀䄀洀愀爀ഊHa-Hakra'Ah [and] De Causis Accidentium)_ Published by University of ਀䌀愀氀椀昀漀爀渀椀愀 倀爀攀猀猀Ⰰ 䈀攀爀欀攀氀攀礀Ⰰ 䌀䄀⸀ ㄀㤀㜀㐀⸀ 䤀匀䈀一  ⴀ㔀㈀ ⴀ ㈀㈀㈀㐀ⴀ㘀 䰀䌀䌀䌀一 㜀㄀ⴀ㄀㠀㜀㠀㜀㌀ഊ ਀瀀愀最攀 ㄀㌀㤀ഊ...then leave the bath and partake of a brew prepared with ਀瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 猀攀攀搀猀Ⰰ 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 洀愀渀礀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 琀漀甀挀栀 漀昀 栀漀琀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 氀椀欀攀ഊclove and mace, or a syrup of rose or sorrel, with water of oxtongue,... ਀㰀䔀渀搀 儀甀漀琀攀㸀ഊ ਀匀瀀椀挀攀搀 倀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 匀礀爀甀瀀ഊ1 quart of Pomegranate juice ਀㐀 挀甀瀀猀 眀栀椀琀攀 猀甀最愀爀 ⠀漀爀 栀漀渀攀礀⤀ഊPossible additions include: clove, mace, borage, mint, citron leaves, ਀猀瀀椀欀攀渀愀爀搀Ⰰ 氀攀洀漀渀 瀀攀攀氀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀愀渀攀氀 漀爀 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀圀愀爀洀 琀栀攀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 漀瘀攀爀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 栀攀愀琀⸀ 䄀搀搀 琀栀攀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 猀琀椀爀爀椀渀最 琀漀ഊdissolve completely. Keep the mixture at a simmer for about 2 hours, ਀猀琀椀爀爀椀渀最 漀挀挀愀猀椀漀渀愀氀氀礀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 椀琀 椀猀 猀甀椀琀愀戀氀礀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀攀搀Ⰰ 愀氀氀漀眀 琀漀 挀漀漀氀ഊbefore bottling. Dilute about one part syrup to five parts water. The ਀爀攀猀甀氀琀椀渀最 搀爀椀渀欀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 洀漀爀攀 戀爀漀眀渀椀猀栀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 爀攀搀 漀昀ഊpomegranate. The Tacinum Sanitatis recommends eating sour pomegranates ਀眀椀琀栀 栀漀渀攀礀 琀漀 渀攀甀琀爀愀氀椀稀攀 琀栀攀 搀愀渀最攀爀猀 琀漀 栀攀愀氀琀栀Ⰰ 猀漀 甀猀攀 琀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊif you want to replicate European diets. ਀ഊ#5 Cold Almond Milk ਀䄀搀愀瀀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 开䄀渀 伀爀搀椀渀愀渀挀攀 伀昀 倀漀琀琀愀最攀㨀 䄀渀 䔀搀椀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䘀椀昀琀攀攀渀琀栀ഊCentury Culinary Recipes in Yale University's MS Beinecke 163_. Edited ਀戀礀 䌀漀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀 䠀椀攀愀琀琀⸀ഊ ਀㄀ 挀甀瀀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊ1/2 cup sugar or clarified honey ਀㄀⼀㈀ 琀攀愀猀瀀漀漀渀 猀愀氀琀ഊ1/2 cup blanched finely ground almonds ਀㄀⼀㠀 挀甀瀀 眀椀渀攀 ⠀甀猀攀 瘀攀爀樀甀猀Ⰰ 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 漀爀 漀洀椀琀 昀漀爀 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀氀礀ഊnon-alcoholic beverage) ਀琀漀愀猀琀攀搀 戀爀攀愀搀ഊ ਀倀氀愀挀攀 漀渀攀 挀甀瀀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀渀琀漀 愀 猀愀甀挀攀 瀀愀渀 愀渀搀 戀爀椀渀最 琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀 漀瘀攀爀 洀攀搀椀甀洀ഊheat. Add sugar (or honey) and salt. Stir quickly so the sugar (or ਀栀漀渀攀礀⤀ 搀椀猀猀漀氀瘀攀猀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 戀甀爀渀椀渀最⸀ 圀栀攀渀 搀椀猀猀漀氀瘀攀搀Ⰰ 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 栀攀愀琀 愀渀搀ഊallow to cool. Add finely ground almonds to the sugar water and mix. Add ਀眀椀渀攀 愀渀搀 洀椀砀 愀最愀椀渀⸀ 吀漀愀猀琀 戀爀攀愀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 戀爀甀猀栀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 眀椀渀攀 愀渀搀ഊallow the bread to dry. Serve cool with toast. ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㤀 䨀愀渀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㈀㨀㔀㔀㨀㐀㤀 ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 爀漀猀攀 猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀⼀眀愀猀 挀漀昀昀攀攀 愀渀搀 琀攀愀ഊ ਀䈀漀琀栀 䌀爀礀猀琀愀氀 愀渀搀 䌀愀琀 猀攀攀洀 琀漀 戀攀 甀猀椀渀最 ∀猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀∀ 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀ഊtime as a generic term for a family of syrup drinks. As Crystal points out, ਀琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀渀 开䴀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀琀漀 䄀渀漀渀椀洀漀开 椀猀 琀椀琀氀攀搀 ∀匀椀洀瀀氀攀 匀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀⸀∀ 伀渀 琀栀攀ഊother hand, the chapter it is in contains lots and lots of recipes for ਀搀爀椀渀欀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 猀漀爀琀 ⠀洀愀欀攀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀 漀爀 栀漀渀攀礀 漀爀ഊsomething similar, immerse some source of flavor in it, let it cool, dilute ਀椀渀 栀漀琀 漀爀 挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀猀 椀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 ∀猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀⸀∀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 甀猀攀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀攀爀洀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀 愀爀攀 猀甀最愀爀⬀瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 愀渀搀ഊhoney+vinegar (_Manuscrito Anonimo_) and sugar+vinegar+mint (modern ਀倀攀爀猀椀愀渀⤀⸀ 匀漀 眀栀椀氀攀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 欀渀漀眀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀 椀猀 搀爀愀眀渀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀ഊ"sekanjabin" and other drinks in the family, I don't think the term applies ਀琀漀 愀氀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 䤀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 昀愀洀椀氀椀愀爀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀ⴀⴀ漀渀攀ഊof the period recipes refers to something as "the sekanjabin of dishes." ਀ഊIf anyone has more information on the terminological issue, please provide. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀搀搀昀爀⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 16:20:06 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀爀礀猀琀愀氀 䄀⸀ 䤀猀愀愀挀∀ 㰀挀爀礀猀琀愀氀 愀琀 瀀搀爀ⴀ椀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: SC - water/was coffe and tea at events ਀ഊRon Martino Jr (Yumitori)wrote: ਀猀渀椀瀀ഊ> > As far as period substitutions for coffee and tea, I agree that we should try ਀㸀 㸀 琀漀 椀渀琀爀漀搀甀挀攀 漀甀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 搀攀氀椀最栀琀猀 漀昀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀漀 漀昀昀攀爀ഊ> > water as a substitute is cold and horrenduous to think upon. ਀㸀 㸀 䴀漀爀搀漀渀渀愀 䐀甀䈀漀椀猀ഊ> ਀㸀         圀愀琀攀爀㼀 䠀漀爀爀攀渀搀漀甀猀㼀ഊ ਀圀攀氀氀Ⰰ 礀攀猀⸀ 䘀漀爀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀猀猀 漀昀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 眀攀 愀爀攀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 攀洀甀氀愀琀攀Ⰰ 瀀氀愀椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊwas something you drank in desperation or penace. ਀ഊI spent some time trying to document plain water as a beverage, ਀猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 愀琀 琀愀戀氀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 洀漀猀琀 琀栀攀礀 琀栀漀甀最栀琀ഊabout water was as something to dilute wine with. Adding water to wine ਀眀愀猀 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 瀀爀愀挀琀椀挀攀 搀愀琀椀渀最 昀爀漀洀 刀漀洀愀渀 琀椀洀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 搀攀猀挀爀椀戀攀搀 椀渀 洀愀渀礀ഊmedieval books on manners and in Baccaccio's The Decameron, "And when ਀琀栀攀礀 搀攀猀挀攀渀搀攀搀 琀漀 椀渀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 栀甀最攀Ⰰ 猀甀渀氀椀琀 挀漀甀爀琀礀愀爀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 挀攀氀氀愀爀猀ഊstocked with excellent wines, and the well containing abundant supplies ਀漀昀 昀爀攀猀栀Ⰰ 椀挀攀ⴀ挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 瀀爀愀椀猀攀搀 嬀琀栀攀椀爀 氀漀搀最椀渀最猀崀 攀瘀攀渀 洀漀爀攀⸀∀ഊ ਀䄀渀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 昀漀漀搀 愀渀搀 栀攀愀氀琀栀 洀愀渀甀愀氀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ㄀㐀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀猀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊin the following fashion: "Warm Water (Aqua Calida) Nature: Cold and ਀栀甀洀椀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 搀攀最爀攀攀⸀ 伀瀀琀椀洀甀洀㨀 䰀甀欀攀眀愀爀洀 愀渀搀 猀眀攀攀琀⸀ 唀猀攀昀甀氀渀攀猀猀㨀 䤀琀ഊcleans the stomach lining. Dangers: It weakens the mechanism of ਀搀椀最攀猀琀椀漀渀⸀ 一攀甀琀爀愀氀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 搀愀渀最攀爀猀㨀 䈀礀 洀椀砀椀渀最 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 爀漀猀攀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀∀ഊAlthough the text describes the water being taken internally, the ਀愀挀挀漀洀瀀愀渀礀椀渀最 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 猀栀漀眀猀 愀 眀漀洀愀渀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 栀攀爀 昀攀攀琀 戀愀琀栀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀漀爀 搀爀愀渀欀 戀漀琀栀 猀瀀爀椀渀最 愀渀搀 爀愀椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀渀✀琀 愀ഊhabit people who could afford better(different) seemed to pick up. ਀ഊBesides, I don't know where you live, but here in the west, we ਀昀爀攀焀甀攀渀琀氀礀 挀愀洀瀀 椀渀 瀀氀愀挀攀猀 眀栀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 甀渀搀爀椀渀欀愀戀氀攀⸀ 䤀昀 䤀✀洀 最漀渀渀愀ഊhaul all my beverages in, the only water is usually for gatorade for ਀昀椀最栀琀攀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀䌀爀礀猀琀愀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀 圀攀猀琀攀爀洀愀爀欀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:26:29 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀昀最甀渀琀攀爀 愀琀 昀渀挀⸀昀甀樀椀琀猀甀⸀挀漀洀 ⠀䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䘀⸀ 䜀甀渀琀攀爀⤀ഊSubject: SC - Water to wine ਀ഊ> I'm not arguing that watered wine was drunk in our time period, but I ਀㸀 愀洀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀 愀猀 琀漀 栀漀眀 礀漀甀爀 焀甀漀琀攀 戀愀挀欀猀 甀瀀 礀漀甀爀 猀琀愀琀攀洀攀渀琀⸀  䤀 爀攀愀搀 椀琀 愀猀ഊ> "they decended to inspect the courtyard, the cellars, and the well." ਀㸀 䤀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 洀漀爀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 焀甀漀琀攀 琀栀愀琀✀猀 渀漀琀 栀攀爀攀㼀  䤀✀洀 猀漀爀爀礀Ⰰ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀ഊ> hard time believing that water was not drunk by the nobility at all, ਀㸀 瀀攀爀栀愀瀀猀 琀栀愀琀 洀椀猀挀漀渀挀攀瀀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 琀栀攀 挀愀甀猀攀 漀昀 洀礀 挀漀渀昀甀猀椀漀渀㼀ഊ ਀㸀 䌀漀渀挀栀漀戀愀爀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 猀琀愀琀攀洀攀渀琀 椀渀 愀 挀栀爀漀渀椀挀氀攀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 ㄀   夀攀愀爀猀 圀愀爀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀ഊarmy was besieged in (Calais?) and supplies were running so low that the ਀渀漀戀椀氀椀琀礀 眀愀猀 挀漀洀瀀氀愀椀渀椀渀最 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 昀漀爀挀攀搀 琀漀 搀爀椀渀欀 瀀氀愀椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀礀 搀爀愀渀欀 眀愀琀攀爀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 搀椀搀渀✀琀 氀椀欀攀 椀琀⸀ഊ ਀䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 15:57:00 EST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀一椀挀欀 匀愀猀猀漀∀ 㰀最爀椀稀氀礀开渀椀挀欀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Water to wine ਀ഊDiseases and standing water make common bedfellows, even in modern ਀琀椀洀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 愀瘀漀椀搀愀渀挀攀 漀昀 瀀氀愀椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 椀猀 愀爀最甀愀戀氀攀 ⠀渀漀琀 猀琀爀漀渀最氀礀⤀ 昀爀漀洀ഊthis standpoint. No know pathogens can survive in beer even at weak 3%. ਀圀愀琀攀爀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 愀瀀瀀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀攀 琀栀椀猀 愀氀挀漀栀漀氀 挀漀渀琀攀渀琀 愀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀爀攀攀 瀀愀爀琀猀ഊwater and 1 part wine. No point here, just thinking out lound to the ਀最爀漀甀瀀⸀ഊ ਀渀椀挀挀漀氀漀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 11:16:34 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䌀爀礀猀琀愀氀 䄀⸀ 䤀猀愀愀挀∀ 㰀挀爀礀猀琀愀氀 愀琀 瀀搀爀ⴀ椀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: Lemon syrup (was SC - o ਀ഊModern Lemonade is not documented in Europe untill c.1651 when it ਀愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀 椀渀 䰀愀 嘀愀爀爀攀渀攀Ⰰ 愀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀 眀椀搀攀氀礀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀攀搀 椀渀琀漀 漀琀栀攀爀ഊEuropean lanugages including English. La Varrene's version inlcudes ਀漀琀栀攀爀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀椀渀最 戀攀猀椀搀攀猀 猀甀最愀爀 愀渀搀 氀攀洀漀渀猀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀氀礀 昀氀漀眀攀爀 瀀攀琀愀氀猀Ⰰ 樀愀猀洀椀渀攀ഊand such. ਀ഊThe Syrup of Lemon is resonable for European personas if you can accept ਀琀栀攀 爀攀愀猀漀渀椀渀最 瀀爀攀猀攀渀琀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀椀氀氀礀 猀琀爀椀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 猀攀欀愀渀愀樀愀戀椀渀 最漀琀 琀漀ഊIreland suggested earlier this month. ਀ഊCrystal of the Westrmark ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ 㔀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀㐀㨀㈀㤀 ⴀ 㠀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䰀攀洀漀渀 猀礀爀甀瀀 ⠀眀愀猀 匀䌀 ⴀ 漀砀礀洀攀氀⼀栀礀搀爀漀洀攀氀⼀攀琀挀⤀ഊ ਀䄀琀 㤀㨀 ㄀ 䄀䴀 ⴀ 㔀   ㈀⼀㔀⼀㤀㠀Ⰰ 圀漀攀氀氀攀爀 䐀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Thank you very much. Would this lemonade would be perioid? Period? ਀㸀䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀㼀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 氀攀洀漀渀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀猀 ㄀㌀琀栀 挀⸀ 匀瀀愀渀椀猀栀 䴀甀猀氀椀洀⸀ഊ ਀㸀圀漀甀氀搀 椀琀 戀攀 洀漀爀攀 漀爀 氀攀猀猀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 漀爀 洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 椀昀 䤀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊ>honey? ਀ഊThere are recipes in the same book for other drinks of the same general ਀猀漀爀琀 洀愀搀攀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 爀攀洀攀洀戀攀爀 愀 氀攀洀漀渀 漀渀攀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䤀猀 琀栀攀 洀椀渀琀攀搀 猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 栀漀琀 漀爀 挀漀氀搀Ⰰ 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀㼀 䤀猀ഊ>the version served at Pennsic, iced, and of the minted variety period ਀㸀漀爀 瀀攀爀椀漀椀搀㼀ഊ ਀䜀漀漀搀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀⸀ 吀栀愀琀 挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀攀猀 栀漀琀 漀爀 挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 昀漀爀ഊsome of the drinks. The fragmentary sekanjabin recipe only mentions hot. It ਀椀猀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 挀漀氀搀 椀渀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 䤀爀愀渀椀愀渀 挀甀椀猀椀渀攀⸀ 䴀礀 最甀攀猀猀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀ഊboth ways in period, but I don't know for sure. ਀ഊBrid writes in response to the same post: ਀ഊ"I believe all the recipes from the Andalusion cooking source are safely and ਀眀攀氀氀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀Ⰰ 猀漀 愀猀椀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 戀攀椀渀最 洀椀搀搀氀攀ⴀ攀愀猀琀攀爀渀 ⠀愀猀 漀瀀瀀漀猀攀搀 琀漀 䔀甀爀漀⤀⸀⸀⸀∀ഊ ਀䔀砀挀攀瀀琀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀愀 椀猀 椀渀 䔀甀爀漀瀀攀 愀渀搀 眀攀猀琀 漀昀 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 椀琀⸀ഊWhile most of Europe is a wilderness full of Nazarene barbarians, there are ਀挀椀瘀椀氀椀稀攀搀 瀀愀琀挀栀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 ∀䤀猀氀愀洀椀挀∀ 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 愀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 琀攀爀洀 琀栀愀渀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀ⴀ䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀ഊthat runs into the problem that al-Islam contained lots of non-muslims. ਀匀漀洀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 椀渀 开䴀愀渀甀猀挀爀椀琀漀 䄀渀漀渀椀洀漀开 栀愀瘀攀 琀椀琀氀攀猀 琀栀愀琀 椀洀瀀氀礀 愀 䨀攀眀椀猀栀ഊor Christian connection. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀搀搀昀爀⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 22:59:54 -0800 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 搀愀瘀椀搀 昀爀椀攀搀洀愀渀 㰀搀搀昀爀 愀琀 戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - medieval beverages ਀ഊMark.S Harris wrote: ਀㸀 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀礀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 昀漀爀 渀漀渀ⴀ戀攀攀爀 ⠀戀氀攀挀栀℀Ⰰ 眀攀✀瘀攀 搀椀猀挀甀猀猀攀搀ഊ> this, let's not do it again), non-sugared type medieval drinks? ਀ഊI believe Roman soldiers drank dilute vinegar (Posca?). I don't know if it ਀眀愀猀 愀氀猀漀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊhttp://www.best.com/~ddfr/ ਀ഊ ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀瀀戀洀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀氀椀渀搀愀栀氀⼀爀椀愀氀琀漀⼀戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀ⴀ一䄀ⴀ洀猀最⸀琀攀砀琀ഊDate: Mon, 02 Mar 98 16:57:47 MST ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䨀䄀嘀䄀一䜀䔀⼀䨀䄀嘀䄀一䴀䄀刀䐀䤀Ⰰ 䜀䔀䔀匀伀伀 ⠀䈀倀匀ⴀ䤀匀䐀ⴀ伀唀䤀⼀倀䰀䔀⤀∀ 㰀䨀䄀嘀䄀一䜀䔀 愀琀 伀伀䌀䰀⸀䌀伀䴀㸀ഊTo: "Mark.S Harris" ਀ഊSo excited to see the Sekanjabin recipe. We used to drink it on hot ਀猀甀洀洀攀爀 搀愀礀猀 椀渀 䤀爀愀渀⸀  匀漀 爀攀昀爀攀猀栀椀渀最⸀  䄀 渀椀挀攀 琀漀甀挀栀 椀猀 琀漀 愀搀搀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀ഊtablespoon or two of grated cucumber at time of serving (small seeds of ਀䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 挀甀挀甀洀戀攀爀 椀猀 伀䬀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 猀攀攀搀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀 猀愀氀愀搀ഊcucumber). ਀ഊAnother drink recipe from Iran is a yogurt drink (not for the timid!). ਀䴀椀砀 ㄀⼀㌀ 挀甀瀀 漀昀 瀀氀愀椀渀 礀漀最甀爀琀 眀椀琀栀 愀 瀀椀渀挀栀 漀昀 猀愀氀琀 愀渀搀 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 愀渀搀 搀爀椀攀搀ഊmint leaves if available. Add 2/3 cup seltzer water, serve with ice. ਀䄀最愀椀渀 挀愀渀 愀搀搀 最爀愀琀攀搀 挀甀挀甀洀戀攀爀 椀昀 搀攀猀椀爀攀搀⸀  䔀渀樀漀礀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:58:23 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䄀氀洀愀 䨀漀栀渀猀漀渀∀ 㰀挀栀椀挀欀攀渀最漀搀搀攀猀猀 愀琀 洀椀渀搀猀瀀爀椀渀最⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: SC - Alternative Drinks ਀ഊ>How difficult would it be to add Persian mint drink or some other period ਀㸀渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀 椀渀猀琀攀愀搀 漀昀⼀眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 琀攀愀 愀渀搀 猀甀挀栀㼀 吀栀椀猀 猀琀椀氀氀 最椀瘀攀猀ഊ>folks who want the old standbys while introducing some period items. It ਀㸀愀氀猀漀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 洀椀渀椀洀愀氀 攀砀琀爀愀 攀昀昀漀爀琀 愀渀搀 挀漀猀琀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀匀琀攀昀愀渀 氀椀 刀漀甀猀ഊ ਀䤀琀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 攀愀猀礀 椀渀搀攀攀搀 琀漀 搀漀 猀甀挀栀 愀 琀栀椀渀最⸀  䄀戀漀甀琀 ㈀ 漀爀 ㌀ 礀攀愀爀猀 最漀Ⰰ 䤀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀ഊsekanjabin (see Cariadoc's Miscellany) with the middle eastern course of a ਀∀挀爀甀猀愀搀攀爀∀ 猀琀礀氀攀 昀攀愀猀琀 ⠀䔀甀爀漀瀀攀愀渀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 䴀䔀 挀漀甀爀猀攀⤀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀ഊseries of sharbat syrups I prepared. I also served a honey almond, a ਀琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀Ⰰ 爀漀猀攀 氀攀洀漀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 樀愀氀氀愀戀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀 ⠀愀氀氀 栀漀洀攀洀愀搀攀 攀砀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 樀愀氀氀愀戀⤀⸀  䤀ഊmade it into a learning project for my diners by supplying each table with ਀愀渀 愀猀猀漀爀琀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀Ⰰ 瀀椀琀挀栀攀爀猀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀瀀漀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀ഊsupplying them with instructions on mixing the syrups into drinks. Lots of ਀瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀攀搀 漀渀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 昀甀渀 椀琀 眀愀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀漀甀最栀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 一伀吀 猀攀爀瘀攀ഊtea (after all, I'm in Meridies), I feel more comfortable now considering ਀愀氀琀攀爀渀愀琀椀瘀攀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀 琀漀 猀甀瀀瀀氀攀洀攀渀琀 琀攀愀 愀渀搀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀  倀氀甀猀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 礀漀甀 洀愀欀攀ഊconcentrated syrups, they can be made well in advance of the feast, so even ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀愀戀漀爀 椀渀琀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 瀀爀攀瀀愀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 搀漀渀✀琀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 愀 氀愀爀最攀爀 椀猀猀甀攀 琀栀愀渀ഊthey're worth. ਀䤀 挀漀甀氀搀 渀攀瘀攀爀 挀漀渀瘀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 漀氀搀 昀漀爀攀椀最渀 氀愀搀椀攀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 昀愀爀洀攀爀猀 洀愀爀欀攀琀ഊthat no, I wasn't mistaken and, yes, I DID want to buy those tamarind pods. ਀ഊRhiannon Cathaoir-mor ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㌀ 䨀甀氀 ㄀㤀㤀㠀 ㈀㄀㨀㌀㜀㨀㐀㜀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 漀瘀攀渀猀 愀渀搀 琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀ഊ ਀䄀琀 ㄀㨀㐀㈀ 倀䴀 ⬀     㘀⼀㈀㠀⼀㤀㠀Ⰰ 䤀愀渀 瘀愀渀 吀攀琀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Forgive (and ignore) me if this has already been done (I'm a bit ਀㸀戀攀栀椀渀搀⤀ 戀甀琀 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀Ⰰ 搀椀搀 礀漀甀 攀瘀攀爀 瀀漀猀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀 搀爀椀渀欀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊ>you teased us with? I have a weakness for tamarind and would love to ਀㸀猀攀攀 琀栀椀猀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀猀 洀攀ⴀⴀ洀愀礀戀攀 洀礀 愀瀀瀀爀攀渀琀椀挀攀⸀ 䈀甀琀 猀椀渀挀攀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 愀ഊtamarind drink recipe, here is the one from the Andalusian cookbook. A ratl ਀椀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 愀 瀀漀甀渀搀Ⰰ 愀渀 唀焀椀礀愀 愀渀 漀甀渀挀攀ⴀⴀ戀甀琀 愀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 吀爀漀礀 猀礀猀琀攀洀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀ഊ12 uqiyas to a ratl. ਀ഊSyrup of Tamarind ਀ഊTake a ratl of tamarind and steep in five ratls of water, throw away the ਀搀爀攀最猀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀爀椀昀椀攀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀⸀ 䌀漀漀欀 愀氀氀ഊthis until it takes the form of a syrup. Drink two ûqiyas of it in three of ਀挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 戀攀渀攀昀椀挀椀愀氀 椀渀 樀愀甀渀搀椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀猀 椀琀 愀眀愀礀 攀愀猀椀氀礀㬀 椀琀 挀甀琀猀ഊbilious vomit and thirst, awakens the appetite to eat, and takes the ਀戀椀琀琀攀爀渀攀猀猀 漀昀 昀漀漀搀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀甀琀栀⸀ഊ ਀眀攀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 昀椀渀愀氀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 漀甀琀 瘀攀爀猀椀漀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 漀甀爀 渀漀琀攀猀 漀渀 椀琀 愀爀攀㨀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 ㄀ഊTamarind 6 oz pods sugar 3/4 c ਀眀愀琀攀爀 焀甀愀爀琀ഊ ਀䌀栀漀瀀瀀攀搀 甀瀀 瀀漀搀猀Ⰰ 栀甀猀欀猀Ⰰ 攀琀⸀ 愀氀⸀ 匀琀攀攀瀀攀搀 椀渀 栀漀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最Ⰰ 眀愀琀攀爀 昀漀爀ഊ15 minutes. Strained through cheesecloth. Added sugar. Simmered for 25 ਀洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 ㈀ഊTamarind 8 oz, packaged, compressed sugar 1c ਀眀愀琀攀爀 㔀 挀ഊ ਀匀琀攀攀瀀攀搀 椀渀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀 ㄀㔀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀Ⰰ 猀琀爀愀椀渀攀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 挀栀攀攀猀攀挀氀漀琀栀⸀ 䄀搀搀 猀甀最愀爀⸀ഊSimmered for 30 minutes, cooled. ਀ഊDiluted both versions 2 parts syrup to 3 parts cold water. ਀ഊComments: Version 2 was darker, purply, stronger flavor, more tart. Version ਀㄀ 眀愀猀 琀愀渀 挀漀氀漀爀⸀ 䈀漀琀栀 琀愀猀琀攀搀 琀愀爀琀Ⰰ 猀眀攀攀琀 猀漀甀爀Ⰰ 昀爀甀椀琀礀Ⰰ 猀洀漀欀礀⸀ഊ ਀䌀漀甀氀搀 猀椀洀洀攀爀 氀漀渀最攀爀 琀漀 最攀琀 愀 琀栀椀挀欀攀爀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊhttp://www.best.com/~ddfr/ ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀  䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀  ㈀㨀㄀㔀㨀㔀㤀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Melanie Wilson ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䤀一吀䔀刀一䔀吀㨀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ愀爀琀猀 愀琀 爀愀瘀攀渀⸀挀挀⸀甀欀愀渀猀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Drinking Water ਀ഊ>As for drinking plain water, yes it was not common. But there is ਀㸀猀漀洀攀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 椀琀 眀愀猀 搀爀甀渀欀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 渀漀琀 眀栀攀渀 琀栀攀礀ഊ>could get something else. ਀ഊFor a study of water in history see Water in England by Dorothy Hartley. ਀ഊMel ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㈀㄀㨀㄀㘀㨀㐀㄀ ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 儀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 匀攀欀愀椀渀樀愀戀椀渀ഊ ਀䄀琀 㐀㨀㔀㈀ 倀䴀 ⴀ 㐀   㐀⼀㈀㄀⼀㤀㤀Ⰰ 䄀攀氀昀眀礀渀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>I have made and enjoyed this syrup several times. Used it as part of our last ਀㸀昀攀愀猀琀Ⰰ 琀漀漀⸀ 一漀眀 琀栀愀琀 洀礀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀椀渀琀 瀀氀愀渀琀猀 愀爀攀 瀀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 甀瀀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 琀礀瀀攀 漀昀ഊ>"mint" is most correct ਀ഊAll kinds of mint are equally correct--until someone provides evidence of ਀眀栀愀琀 瘀愀爀椀攀琀椀攀猀 攀砀椀猀琀攀搀 椀渀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀⸀ഊ ਀㸀⠀䤀✀洀 攀礀攀椀渀最 洀礀 挀栀漀挀漀氀愀琀攀 洀椀渀琀 瀀氀愀渀琀猀 樀甀猀琀 渀漀眀⤀㼀ഊ ਀䔀砀挀攀瀀琀 昀漀爀 挀栀漀挀漀氀愀琀攀 洀椀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䐀愀瘀椀搀⼀䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀ഊhttp://www.best.com/~ddfr/ ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀ 㨀㔀㈀㨀 ㄀ ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Vicki Strassburg ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 儀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 匀攀欀愀椀渀樀愀戀椀渀ഊ ਀伀渀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 䄀攀氀昀眀礀渀 愀琀 愀漀氀⸀挀漀洀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Now that my various mint plants are popping up, which type of ਀㸀 ∀洀椀渀琀∀ 椀猀 洀漀猀琀 挀漀爀爀攀挀琀 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 琀爀椀攀搀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 漀琀栀攀爀 洀椀渀琀猀ഊ> (I'm eyeing my chocolate mint plants just now)? ਀ഊI can't tell you what is most correct, but I *can* tell you what I've used ਀愀渀搀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀甀氀琀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀攀瀀瀀攀爀洀椀渀琀 ⴀ 愀 戀椀琀 漀瘀攀爀瀀漀眀攀爀椀渀最 戀甀琀 瘀攀爀礀 爀攀昀爀攀猀栀椀渀最ഊSpearmint - pretty much the same as the peppermint ਀䌀栀漀挀漀氀愀琀攀 洀椀渀琀 ⴀ 猀琀爀愀渀最攀℀ 戀甀琀 礀攀猀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 愀最愀椀渀ഊApple mint - by far my favorite, very light on the mint with apple ਀漀瘀攀爀琀漀渀攀猀ഊPineapple mint - so-so ਀䰀攀洀漀渀 洀椀渀琀 ⴀ 琀漀漀 琀愀爀琀 昀漀爀 洀礀 琀愀猀琀攀猀ഊCat mint - :-) I'll let you know (it's not quite ready to pluck yet) ਀ഊAs you can tell, we have a variety of mints in the garden. There's ਀瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 䤀✀瘀攀 昀漀爀最漀琀琀攀渀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 眀攀 琀攀渀搀 琀漀 最漀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀ഊsekunhabin here. ਀ഊ~Maedb ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㄀㨀㄀㐀㨀㔀  ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Vicki Strassburg ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 儀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 匀攀欀愀椀渀樀愀戀椀渀ഊ ਀㸀 圀栀愀琀 猀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 栀愀瘀攀 礀漀甀 甀猀攀搀㼀  䠀愀瘀攀 礀漀甀 攀瘀攀爀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀ഊ> plain white vinegar? I've had it as a clear liquid, and think it might ਀㸀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀愀礀 戀礀 猀漀洀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀⸀  䤀 搀漀 栀愀瘀攀 猀漀洀攀 爀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊ> cabinet. It would probably give a pinkish color, wouldn't it? What ਀㸀 愀戀漀甀琀 挀椀搀攀爀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀㼀  吀栀愀琀✀猀 甀猀攀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 嘀椀爀最椀渀椀愀渀 ✀猀眀椀琀挀栀攀氀✀ ㄀㜀琀栀 䌀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 昀漀爀最漀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀 洀礀 氀愀猀琀 瀀漀猀琀℀ 䄀昀琀攀爀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 栀愀搀 漀琀栀攀爀 猀攀欀甀渀樀愀戀椀渀猀Ⰰ 䤀ഊwill never go back to the plain vinegars. The subtlety of all the others ਀樀甀猀琀 氀攀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀椀琀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 搀甀猀琀⸀ 刀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 眀漀爀欀攀搀 最爀攀愀琀Ⰰഊbut needed strong mints to go with it (the peppermint and spearmint were ਀眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀⤀⸀ 吀栀攀 眀栀椀琀攀 眀椀渀攀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 眀愀猀 愀 猀瀀椀挀椀攀爀 琀愀猀琀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 焀甀攀攀渀 漀昀 愀氀氀ഊmy concoctions, though, was apple mint with apple cider vinegar. Wow. It ਀栀愀搀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 琀愀渀最 漀昀 爀攀最甀氀愀爀 猀攀欀甀渀樀愀戀椀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 愀瀀瀀氀攀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀 樀甀猀琀 搀愀渀挀攀搀ഊaround the roof of my mouth. Yup - only the roof because it positively ਀昀氀漀愀琀攀搀 椀琀 眀愀猀 猀漀 氀椀最栀琀⸀ ⠀䌀甀琀 搀漀眀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 猀眀攀攀琀渀攀爀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 琀栀漀甀最栀⸀⤀ഊI have also played with honey, sugar, raw sugar and soon stevia. The raw ਀猀甀最愀爀 漀瘀攀爀瀀漀眀攀爀攀搀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 栀漀渀攀礀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 栀攀愀瘀椀攀爀 愀渀搀ഊ(understandably) thicker so it neded more dilution. ਀ഊBottoms up! ~Maedb ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀栀甀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䄀瀀爀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㜀㨀㔀㐀㨀㌀㐀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: "Sharon R. Saroff" ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 儀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀猀 漀渀 匀攀欀愀椀渀樀愀戀椀渀ഊ ਀圀栀攀渀 䤀 洀愀欀攀 猀攀欀愀椀渀樀愀戀椀渀 䤀 甀猀攀 挀椀搀攀爀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 愀渀搀 䌀攀氀攀猀琀椀愀氀 匀攀愀猀漀渀椀渀最猀 洀椀渀琀ഊmagic tea bags. Sometimes I vary the flavor by adding a rasberry leaf tea ਀戀愀最 漀爀 愀 䈀攀渀最愀氀 匀瀀椀挀攀 琀攀愀 戀愀最 眀栀椀挀栀 栀愀猀 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ 挀愀爀搀愀洀漀渀 愀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀⸀  䤀琀ഊhas gotten good reviews. ਀ഊSindara ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㌀ 䴀愀礀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㄀㨀㌀㔀㨀㔀㘀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: david friedman ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀 ⴀ 匀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀 ⬀ഊ ਀䄀琀 㘀㨀㔀㔀 䄀䴀 ⴀ 㐀   㔀⼀㌀⼀㤀㤀Ⰰ 倀栀椀氀椀瀀 ☀ 匀甀猀愀渀 吀爀漀礀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ>Nancy Santella wrote: ਀㸀㸀 䤀 眀愀猀 漀甀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 猀眀愀洀瀀 瀀椀挀欀椀渀最 洀椀渀琀 昀漀爀 儀甀攀攀渀猀 刀愀瀀椀攀爀Ⰰ 匀愀琀⸀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 䤀 眀愀猀ഊ>> planning how much Sekanjabin syrup to make when the thought accured to me, ਀㸀㸀 眀栀愀琀 椀昀 礀漀甀 搀椀搀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 琀栀椀渀最 眀椀琀栀 爀漀猀攀 瀀攀琀愀氀猀㼀  圀漀甀氀搀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 甀猀攀愀戀氀攀ഊ>> rose syrup? ਀㸀㸀ഊ>> Anna ਀㸀ഊ>I guess it would depend on whether you did it with vinegar, as with ਀㸀猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀⸀ 䤀 欀渀漀眀 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 戀甀礀 爀漀猀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 椀渀 洀漀猀琀 䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䔀愀猀琀攀爀渀ഊ>groceries, and it's probably made pretty much the same way. I guess what ਀㸀䤀✀洀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 愀琀 椀猀 栀漀眀 洀甀挀栀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀攀欀愀渀樀愀戀椀渀 瀀爀漀挀攀猀猀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 琀愀氀欀椀渀最ഊ>about applying. Are we talking about just making a syrup cooked with ਀㸀爀漀猀攀 瀀攀琀愀氀猀Ⰰ 愀渀 攀砀琀爀攀洀攀氀礀 猀眀攀攀琀 爀漀猀攀 ∀琀攀愀∀㼀 䤀琀 开漀甀最栀琀开 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀㸀䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ㄀㌀琀栀 挀⸀ 䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀愀渀 挀漀漀欀戀漀漀欀㨀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 刀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 䴀愀欀椀渀最 愀 匀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 䨀甀氀攀瀀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 昀椀瘀攀 爀愀琀氀猀 漀昀 愀爀漀洀愀琀椀挀 爀漀猀攀眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀眀漀 愀渀搀 愀 栀愀氀昀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 挀漀漀欀ഊall this until it takes the consistency of syrups. Drink two ûqiyas of this ਀眀椀琀栀 琀栀爀攀攀 漀昀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䤀琀猀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀猀㨀 椀渀 瀀栀氀攀最洀愀琀椀挀 昀攀瘀攀爀㬀 椀琀 昀漀爀琀椀昀椀攀猀ഊthe stomach and the liver, profits at the onset of dropsy, purifies and ਀氀椀最栀琀攀渀猀 琀栀攀 戀漀搀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 椀琀 椀猀 洀漀猀琀 攀砀琀爀愀漀爀搀椀渀愀爀礀Ⰰ 䜀漀搀 眀椀氀氀椀渀最⸀ഊ ਀匀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 䘀爀攀猀栀 刀漀猀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 刀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 䴀愀欀椀渀最 䤀琀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 昀爀攀猀栀 爀漀猀攀猀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 爀攀洀漀瘀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀椀爀琀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀洀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀瘀攀爀ഊthem with boiled water for a day and a night, until the water cools and the ਀爀漀猀攀猀 昀愀氀氀 愀瀀愀爀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䌀氀攀愀渀 椀琀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀渀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 椀琀 愀渀搀ഊadd to a ratl of sugar. Cook all this until it takes the form of a syrup. ਀䐀爀椀渀欀 愀渀 ff焀椀礀愀 漀昀 琀栀椀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀眀漀 漀昀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀㬀 椀琀猀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀猀 愀爀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 漀渀猀攀琀ഊof dropsy, and it fortifies the stomach and the liver and the other ਀椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀 漀爀最愀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀椀最栀琀攀渀猀 琀栀攀 挀漀渀猀琀椀琀甀琀椀漀渀㬀 椀渀 琀栀椀猀 椀琀 椀猀 愀搀洀椀爀愀戀氀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀 刀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 䴀愀欀椀渀最 䤀琀 戀礀 刀攀瀀攀琀椀琀椀漀渀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀Ⰰ 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 爀漀猀攀猀 漀爀 洀漀爀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀氀愀挀攀 椀琀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 椀琀Ⰰഊboiling for a day and a night. Then take out the roses that are in the ਀眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀爀漀眀 琀栀攀洀 愀眀愀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最漀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 焀甀愀渀琀椀琀礀 漀昀 昀爀攀猀栀 爀漀猀攀猀Ⰰഊwhich are to be covered likewise with this water, after boiling it a second ਀琀椀洀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀攀愀瘀攀 琀栀椀猀 愀氀猀漀 愀 搀愀礀 愀渀搀 愀 渀椀最栀琀⸀ 吀栀爀漀眀 愀眀愀礀 琀栀攀猀攀 爀漀猀攀猀ഊlikewise, and put in others and treat them as before, and continue doing ਀琀栀椀猀 昀漀爀 琀攀渀 搀愀礀猀 漀爀 洀漀爀攀⸀ 䤀琀猀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀攀渀最琀栀 漀昀 椀琀猀 洀愀欀椀渀最 愀爀攀ഊsolely in the manner of repeating. Then clarify the water of roses and add ਀琀漀 椀琀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 挀漀漀欀 椀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 琀愀欀攀猀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀 漀昀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 䤀琀ഊreaches the limit in thinning and moistening the constitution, God willing. ਀ഊSyrup of Dried Roses ਀ഊTake a ratl of dried roses, and cover with three ratls of boiling water, ਀昀漀爀 愀 渀椀最栀琀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 氀攀愀瘀攀 椀琀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀礀 昀愀氀氀 愀瀀愀爀琀 椀渀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 倀爀攀猀猀 椀琀 愀渀搀ഊclarify it, take the clear part and add it to two ratls of white sugar, and ਀挀漀漀欀 愀氀氀 琀栀椀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 椀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀 漀昀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 愀渀 ff焀椀礀愀 愀渀搀 愀 栀愀氀昀ഊof this with three of water. Its benefits: it binds the constitution, and ਀戀攀渀攀昀椀琀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀爀琀 漀昀 搀爀漀瀀猀礀Ⰰ 昀漀爀琀椀昀椀攀猀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀 漀爀最愀渀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀ഊprovokes the appetite, God willing. ਀ഊDavid/Cariadoc ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀戀攀猀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀縀搀搀昀爀⼀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:43:11 -0700 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䔀搀眀椀渀 䠀攀眀椀琀琀 㰀戀爀漀最漀漀猀攀 愀琀 瀀攀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊTo: sca-arts , ਀        ∀猀挀愀ⴀ挀愀椀搀 愀琀 爀漀最甀攀猀⸀渀攀琀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀愀椀搀 愀琀 爀漀最甀攀猀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Chicory Water ਀ഊIt is my understanding that Chicory, Chichorium Intybus, is native to ਀䔀甀爀漀瀀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 甀猀攀搀 眀椀搀攀氀礀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀 愀最攀猀⸀  䌀漀昀昀攀攀Ⰰ 戀礀 挀漀洀瀀愀爀椀猀漀渀ഊwas not introduced into Europe until the 1600's. From the resources I have ਀氀漀漀欀攀搀 愀琀Ⰰ 椀琀 椀猀 渀漀眀 最爀漀眀椀渀最 眀椀氀搀 椀渀 琀栀攀 匀漀甀琀栀 愀渀搀 䔀愀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 唀匀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 洀漀猀琀ഊchicory is imported to the U.S from France. Other varieties include Belgian ਀愀渀搀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 䌀栀椀挀漀爀礀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 猀愀氀愀搀猀⸀  䤀渀 䘀爀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 䌀栀椀挀漀爀礀 椀猀 最爀漀眀渀 昀漀爀 椀琀猀 氀攀愀昀礀ഊshoots, called Witloof. A particular variety, Magdeburg, is cultivated for its ਀爀漀漀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 爀漀愀猀琀攀搀 昀漀爀 甀猀攀 椀渀 挀漀昀昀攀攀⸀   䘀爀漀洀 洀礀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀Ⰰ 䤀 愀洀 ഊunclear as to whether Chicory is the same as Endive or if it is a near relative. ਀ഊChicory water is referred to in "Don Quixote" by Miguel de Cervantes (circa: ਀㄀㘀   䄀⸀䐀⸀⤀⸀  䤀渀 瀀愀爀琀 䤀Ⰰ 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 嘀䤀䤀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 樀漀甀猀琀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 眀椀渀搀洀椀氀氀猀Ⰰ 匀愀渀挀栀漀ഊand Don Quijote sleep. Sancho sleeps better than Don Quijote because he, ਀∀眀愀猀 昀甀氀氀 漀昀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 洀漀爀攀 猀甀戀猀琀愀渀琀椀愀氀 琀栀愀渀 䌀栀椀挀漀爀礀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀∀  䤀渀 愀 昀漀漀琀渀漀琀攀ഊin my translation by Walter Starke, it is mentioned that chicory water was ਀∀愀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 挀漀漀氀椀渀最 搀爀椀渀欀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀 愀最攀⸀∀  䤀 愀洀 挀甀爀椀漀甀猀 愀猀 琀漀 栀漀眀 椀琀 眀愀猀 洀愀搀攀⸀ഊWas it made from the roasted and ground roots like today's coffee additive? ਀伀爀Ⰰ 眀愀猀 椀琀 洀愀搀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 最爀攀攀渀猀 氀椀欀攀 琀攀愀㼀  䠀愀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 栀攀愀爀搀 漀昀 椀琀㼀  䤀渀ഊSpanish Chicory is called Achicoria. ਀ⴀⴀഊEdwin ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㄀㜀 䨀甀渀 ㈀  ㌀ ㈀㄀㨀 㐀㨀㄀㌀ ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: johnna holloway ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Lemonade was Easy cordial recipe request ਀ഊI thought you might appreciate this early recipe ਀昀漀爀 氀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀 琀愀欀攀渀 昀爀漀洀 吀栀攀 䘀爀攀渀挀栀 䌀漀漀欀⸀ഊIt may in fact be the earliest printed recipe for ਀䰀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀 椀渀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀⸀ 吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 椀猀 椀渀 昀愀挀琀 漀氀搀攀爀 琀栀愀渀ഊwhat OED gives for their earliest quote which dates ਀昀爀漀洀 漀渀氀礀 ㄀㘀㘀㈀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀眀 琀漀 䴀愀欀攀 䰀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀⸀ഊIt is made several waies, according to the diversity of the ਀椀渀最爀攀搀椀攀渀琀猀⸀ 䘀漀爀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 椀琀 眀椀琀栀 䨀愀猀洀椀渀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 洀甀猀琀 琀愀欀攀 漀昀 椀琀 愀戀漀甀琀ഊtwo handful, infuse it in two or three quarts of water the space ਀漀昀 攀椀最栀琀 漀爀 琀攀渀 栀漀甀爀攀猀㬀 琀栀攀渀 琀漀 漀渀攀 焀甀愀爀琀 漀昀 眀愀琀攀爀 礀漀甀 猀栀愀氀氀 瀀甀琀ഊsix ounces of sugar. Those of ornage flowers, of muscade roses, ਀愀渀搀 漀最 最攀氀氀椀昀氀漀眀攀爀猀Ⰰ 愀爀攀 洀愀搀攀 愀昀琀攀爀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀礀⸀ 䘀漀爀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀ഊthat of Lemon, take some lemons, cut them, and take out the juice, ਀瀀甀琀 椀琀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀猀 愀戀漀瘀攀猀愀椀搀⸀ 倀愀爀攀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 氀攀洀漀渀Ⰰ 挀甀琀 椀琀 椀渀琀漀 猀氀椀挀攀猀Ⰰഊput it among this juice, and some sugar proportionably. ਀吀栀愀琀 漀昀 漀爀愀渀最攀 椀猀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀攀 猀愀洀攀 眀愀礀⸀ഊFrancois Pierre La Varenne. The French Cook. 1653. pp. 238-239. ਀ഊJohnnae llyn Lewis ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀  䄀甀最 ㈀  ㌀ ㄀㜀㨀㌀㠀㨀㄀㠀 ⴀ 㜀  ഊFrom: lilinah at earthlink.net ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 儀甀椀渀挀攀 匀礀爀甀瀀ഊTo: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org ਀ഊThe Laimon-Safarjali syrup (safarjali means quince, guess what laimon ਀洀攀愀渀猀⸀⸀⸀⤀ 椀猀 昀漀爀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀搀攀 椀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 瀀猀攀甀搀漀ⴀ䤀爀漀渀 䌀栀攀昀 昀攀愀猀琀 ഊin 2000. It was my second feast. ਀ഊAll the recipes are on my website ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀椀琀挀栀⸀搀爀愀欀⸀渀攀琀⼀氀椀氀椀渀愀栀⼀瀀攀爀猀椀愀渀挀栀攀昀⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䈀甀琀 椀✀瘀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀搀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 儀甀椀渀挀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 戀攀氀漀眀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀愀栀椀琀愀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 琀栀攀 琀攀砀琀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 眀攀戀 猀椀琀攀㨀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ ਀䰀愀椀洀甀渀 匀愀昀愀爀樀愀氀椀ഊLemon-Quince-Rosewater Syrup Beverage ਀ഊWhen I was shopping for ingredients for the feast, I went to a ਀倀攀爀猀椀愀渀 昀漀漀搀 猀琀漀爀攀⸀ 䤀 猀攀愀爀挀栀攀搀 琀栀攀 猀栀攀氀瘀攀猀 椀渀 栀漀瀀攀猀 漀昀 昀椀渀搀椀渀最 愀 ഊ(synthetic) musk flavored extract or syrup called for in a couple ਀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⸀ 䴀甀挀栀 琀漀 洀礀 猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀Ⰰ 䤀 昀漀甀渀搀 愀 戀漀琀琀氀攀 漀昀 䰀攀洀漀渀ⴀ儀甀椀渀挀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 ഊfrom an American Persian food supplier. I bought it to taste test. It ਀眀愀猀 搀攀氀椀挀椀漀甀猀⸀ 䴀礀 栀漀洀攀洀愀搀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 眀愀猀 攀瘀攀渀 洀漀爀攀 搀攀氀椀挀椀漀甀猀⸀ഊ ਀伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 刀攀挀椀瀀攀㨀ഊOne part quince juice and three parts filtered syrup, in both of ਀眀栀椀挀栀 礀漀甀 栀愀瘀攀 戀漀椀氀攀搀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 漀昀 焀甀椀渀挀攀 甀渀琀椀氀 渀攀愀爀氀礀 搀漀渀攀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 ഊtaken up, and the syrup takes it consistency. To every pound of the ਀眀栀漀氀攀 礀漀甀 愀搀搀 琀眀漀 漀甀渀挀攀猀 漀昀 氀攀洀漀渀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 爀攀琀甀爀渀 琀栀攀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀 漀昀 ഊquince; they improve the consistency. It is scented with musk, ਀猀愀昀昀爀漀渀 愀渀搀 爀漀猀攀ⴀ眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀渀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 甀猀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀ 䘀爀漀洀 愀氀ⴀ䬀椀琀愀戀 圀愀猀昀 愀氀ⴀ䄀琀✀椀洀愀 愀氀ⴀ䴀甀✀琀愀搀愀ഊ(The Book of the Description of Familiar Foods) ਀㄀㌀㜀㌀ഊComplete text translated and introduced by Charles Perry, ਀椀渀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䄀爀愀戀 䌀漀漀欀攀爀礀Ⰰ 瀀⸀ 㐀㐀㈀ⴀ㐀㐀㌀⸀ഊ ਀䴀礀 刀攀挀椀瀀攀㨀ഊ2 dozen quinces ਀㔀 ⴀ 㠀 瀀漀甀渀搀猀 最爀愀渀甀氀愀琀攀搀 眀栀椀琀攀 猀甀最愀爀ഊjuice of 12 lemons ਀猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 挀愀瀀猀昀甀氀 爀漀猀攀眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 䌀漀爀琀愀猀 戀爀愀渀搀ഊ(i forget to add the saffron) ਀⠀椀 渀攀瘀攀爀 昀漀甀渀搀 攀搀椀戀氀攀 猀礀渀琀栀攀琀椀挀 洀甀猀欀⤀ഊ ਀㄀⸀ 䌀甀琀 焀甀椀渀挀攀猀 椀渀 焀甀愀爀琀攀爀猀⸀ 䌀漀爀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 昀氀漀眀攀爀 愀渀搀 猀琀攀洀 攀渀搀猀⸀ 䌀甀琀 ഊfurther into eighths (that is, each quince is ultimately cut in eight ਀瀀椀攀挀攀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀㈀⸀ 倀甀琀 焀甀椀渀挀攀猀 椀渀 搀攀攀瀀 欀攀琀琀氀攀Ⰰ 挀漀瘀攀爀 眀椀琀栀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀甀爀渀 昀椀爀攀 琀漀 栀椀最栀⸀ഊ ਀㌀⸀ 倀漀甀爀 椀渀 㔀 氀戀⸀ 猀甀最愀爀⸀ 匀琀椀爀 眀攀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀㐀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 氀椀焀甀椀搀 戀攀最椀渀猀 琀漀 戀漀椀氀Ⰰ 爀攀搀甀挀攀 昀椀爀攀 琀漀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 愀渀搀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀 琀漀 ഊsimmer, stirring frequently so bottom of pan doesn't burn. ਀ഊ5. Do NOT mash the quinces. I did and it was a BIG mistake. I did ਀渀漀琀 最攀琀 攀渀漀甀最栀 猀礀爀甀瀀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 洀愀猀栀攀搀 焀甀椀渀挀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 搀攀氀椀挀椀漀甀猀⸀ഊ ਀㘀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 氀椀焀甀椀搀 栀愀猀 琀栀椀挀欀攀渀攀搀 愀渀搀 栀愀猀 戀攀挀漀洀攀 愀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 愀洀戀攀爀ⴀ爀漀猀攀 挀漀氀漀爀 ഊ- many hours later - remove from heat and allow to cool. ਀ഊ7. When cool enough to manage, put a strainer over a deep bowl, and ਀戀攀最椀渀 猀挀漀漀瀀椀渀最 漀甀琀 焀甀椀渀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 氀椀焀甀椀搀⸀ 䄀氀氀漀眀 琀漀 猀琀爀愀椀渀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 ഊmashing or pressing fruit. A jelly bag would probably work - although ਀礀漀甀✀搀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 渀攀攀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 刀攀洀漀瘀攀 爀攀猀甀氀琀椀渀最 氀椀焀甀椀搀 琀漀 ഊanother large container. ਀ഊ8. After you've drained the quinces well, and syrup has cooled, check ਀琀栀攀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀攀渀挀礀 愀渀搀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀⸀ 䤀琀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀漀洀攀眀栀愀琀 猀礀爀甀瀀礀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 愀 ഊtart-sweet flavor. ਀ⴀ 䤀琀 搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 戀攀 挀氀攀愀爀⸀ 䤀渀 昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀猀 ഊhaving some fruity bits in it, so you can add some mashed quince at ਀琀栀椀猀 瀀漀椀渀琀⸀ഊ- If the syrup isn't sweet enough, put in a kettle on high fire, add ਀洀漀爀攀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 猀琀椀爀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 戀爀椀渀最 琀漀 戀漀椀氀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 爀攀搀甀挀攀 琀漀 栀椀最栀 猀椀洀洀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 ഊcook just long enough for sugar to dissolve. ਀ഊ9. When syrup is thoroughly cooled, add lemon juice and rose water. ਀ഊ10. To drink, fill a pitcher about 2/3 full of water and add a bit of ਀猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 吀愀猀琀攀⸀ 䄀搀搀 洀漀爀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 甀渀琀椀氀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 猀愀琀椀猀昀椀攀搀 ⠀琀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀爀挀椀愀氀 ഊsyrup, much denser than mine, is diluted 1 to 5). It should have a ਀猀眀攀攀琀ⴀ琀愀爀琀 昀氀愀瘀漀爀Ⰰ 爀攀搀漀氀攀渀琀 漀昀 焀甀椀渀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 爀漀猀攀猀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:30:07 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䈀愀爀戀愀爀愀 䈀攀渀猀漀渀∀ 㰀瘀漀砀㠀 愀琀 洀椀渀搀猀瀀爀椀渀最⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] period beverages ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䜀爀攀攀琀椀渀最猀 漀栀 伀搀搀 漀渀攀℀ഊ ਀ 䘀爀漀洀 䄀渀漀渀⸀ 䄀渀搀愀氀甀猀椀愀渀㨀ഊ ਀匀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 吀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀ഊTake a ratl of tamarind and steep in five ratls of water, throw away the ਀搀爀攀最猀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 琀栀攀 挀氀愀爀椀昀椀攀搀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀⸀ 䌀漀漀欀 愀氀氀ഊthis until it takes the form of a syrup. Drink two ûqiyas of it in three of ਀挀漀氀搀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䤀琀 椀猀 戀攀渀攀昀椀挀椀愀氀 椀渀 樀愀甀渀搀椀挀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀猀 椀琀 愀眀愀礀 攀愀猀椀氀礀㬀 椀琀 挀甀琀猀ഊbilious vomit and thirst, awakens the appetite to eat, and takes the ਀戀椀琀琀攀爀渀攀猀猀 漀昀 昀漀漀搀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀漀甀琀栀⸀ഊ ਀一漀琀 爀攀搀愀挀琀攀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 愀洀 昀愀椀爀氀礀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 椀琀 椀猀 眀栀愀琀 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀 䌀栀琀椀猀琀椀愀渀渀愀 眀愀猀ഊreferring to. I once played with the Syrup of Carrots. It was .... ਀椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀椀渀最⸀ 匀栀漀甀氀搀愀 栀愀搀 愀 嘀㠀⸀ഊ ਀匀攀爀攀渀愀ഊ ਀㸀㸀 䠀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 䴀椀猀挀攀氀氀愀渀礀Ⰰ 渀漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 挀愀氀氀猀 昀漀爀 洀椀渀琀⸀  䤀ഊ>> have also had syrups of violet (wonderful), rose (ok, but could get ਀㸀㸀 挀氀漀礀椀渀最⤀Ⰰ 挀愀爀爀漀琀Ⰰ 琀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 漀琀栀攀爀猀⸀ഊ>> Experiment and have fun! ਀㸀㸀 䌀栀爀椀猀琀椀愀渀渀愀ഊ> ਀㸀 吀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀㼀㼀  䜀漀琀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀㼀㼀㼀  吀愀洀愀爀椀渀搀 椀猀 最爀攀愀琀 猀琀甀昀昀⸀  䤀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 樀甀猀琀ഊ> buy the raw tamarind and put it in the fruit bowl on the table. Folks walk ਀㸀 戀礀Ⰰ 氀漀漀欀Ⰰ 愀猀欀Ⰰ 琀爀礀 椀琀 愀猀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 眀愀氀欀椀渀最 愀眀愀礀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 挀漀洀攀 戀愀挀欀 昀漀爀 ഊ> more! ਀㸀 伀氀眀攀渀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:06:02 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀∀ 㰀爀挀洀愀渀渀㐀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Brighid's pomegranate drink recipe ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀伀渀 ㄀㌀ 伀挀琀 ㈀  ㌀Ⰰ 愀琀 ㈀ 㨀㄀㌀Ⰰ 䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀 䄀 䠀攀挀欀攀爀琀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> If Brighid ni Chiarain (apologies if I botched the spelling) is still ਀㸀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀椀猀琀Ⰰ 挀漀甀氀搀 䤀 戀漀琀栀攀爀 礀漀甀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀ഊ> drink that you had at the redactng party (a year or more ago) at ਀㸀 䴀椀猀琀爀攀猀猀攀猀 䄀渀愀爀爀愀 愀渀搀 䄀渀愀✀猀 栀漀甀猀攀㼀ഊ ਀一漀 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀⸀  䤀琀 眀愀猀 愀渀 愀瀀瀀爀漀砀椀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 琀栀攀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 椀渀 琀栀攀ഊAnonymous Andalusian Cookbook. That calls for pomegranate juice to be ਀挀漀漀欀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 眀椀琀栀 猀甀最愀爀 椀渀琀漀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀 瀀爀攀猀甀洀愀戀氀礀 氀愀琀攀爀 搀椀氀甀琀攀搀 ഊinto a drink. ਀ഊSince pomegranate juice is expensive around here (and is not always ਀愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀⤀Ⰰ 䤀 甀猀攀搀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀 ⠀愀欀愀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 洀漀氀愀猀猀攀猀⤀ 愀渀搀 愀ഊsugar syrup. ਀ഊThe "recipe": ਀ഊBuy some pomegranate syrup (I used Cortas bran) ਀ഊMake a simple syrup of 2 parts sugar to one part water. ਀ഊMix 6 tablespoons of pomegranate syrup with 1 cup of simple syrup, and ਀䄀搀搀 攀渀漀甀最栀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 戀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 琀漀琀愀氀 琀漀 ㈀ 焀甀愀爀琀猀⸀  匀琀椀爀 眀攀氀氀⸀  吀愀猀琀攀 愀渀搀 ഊadjust as necessary. ਀ഊI served this at a feast and a dayboard, and it was very popular, though it ਀猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀搀 愀 昀攀眀 最攀渀琀氀攀猀 眀栀漀 洀椀猀琀漀漀欀 椀琀 昀漀爀 椀挀攀搀 琀攀愀⸀  䤀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 漀挀挀甀瀀礀 琀栀攀ഊsame flavor niche as lemonade -- a sweet/tart fruit drink. ਀ഊBrighid ni Chiarain *** mka Robin Carroll-Mann ਀䈀愀爀漀渀礀 漀昀 匀攀琀琀洀漀甀爀 匀眀洀瀀Ⰰ 䔀愀猀琀 䬀椀渀最搀漀洀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:38:23 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀∀ 㰀爀挀洀愀渀渀㐀 愀琀 攀愀爀琀栀氀椀渀欀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Aloxa, a honey drink ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀圀攀✀瘀攀 栀愀搀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 伀吀 瀀漀猀琀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瀀愀猀琀 昀攀眀 搀愀礀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 栀愀瘀攀ഊbeen from me (bad Brighid, no bizcocho!). By way of atonement, here's a ਀猀洀愀氀氀 猀攀最洀攀渀琀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 渀攀眀 琀爀愀渀猀氀愀琀椀漀渀 瀀爀漀樀攀挀琀⸀ഊ ਀䰀愀 愀氀漀砀愀 攀猀 挀椀攀爀琀漀 最攀渀攀爀漀 搀攀 愀最甀愀 洀椀攀氀 焀甀攀 猀攀 栀愀稀攀 挀漀渀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀猀 挀愀氀椀攀渀琀攀猀Ⰰഊbevese en tiempo de estio, porque dizen que refresca, y no se engañan ਀洀甀挀栀漀 攀渀 攀氀氀漀Ⰰ 瀀漀爀焀甀攀 愀甀渀焀甀攀 猀攀愀 瘀攀爀搀愀搀 焀甀攀 瀀漀爀 瀀愀爀琀攀 搀攀 氀愀猀 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀猀 礀 氀愀ഊmiel calienta, empero por la mucha porcion de agua refresca, y las especias ਀栀愀稀攀渀 瀀攀渀攀琀爀愀爀 氀愀 愀最甀愀 瀀漀爀 琀漀搀漀 攀氀 挀甀攀爀瀀漀Ⰰ 瀀漀爀 焀甀攀 猀攀 愀戀爀攀渀 氀漀猀 挀愀漀猀 礀ഊporos del cuerpo, y ansi casualmente de per accidens refrescan, aunque de ਀猀甀礀漀 挀愀氀椀攀渀琀攀渀⸀ഊ ਀䄀氀漀砀愀 椀猀 愀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 栀漀渀攀礀 眀愀琀攀爀 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 洀愀搀攀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀琀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀㬀 椀琀 椀猀ഊdrunk in summertime, because they say that it refreshes, and they are not ਀瘀攀爀礀 眀爀漀渀最 愀戀漀甀琀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 椀琀 椀猀 琀爀甀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀ഊhoney heat it up, however, the much larger portion of water refreshes, and ਀琀栀攀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 瀀攀渀攀琀爀愀琀攀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀漀甀琀 琀栀攀 戀漀搀礀Ⰰ 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀 琀栀攀礀ഊopen the channels and the pores of the body, and thus coincidently and per ਀愀挀挀椀搀攀渀猀 嬀䰀愀琀椀渀 昀漀爀 ∀戀礀 愀挀挀椀搀攀渀琀∀崀 琀栀攀礀 爀攀昀爀攀猀栀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 戀礀 琀栀攀洀猀攀氀瘀攀猀 琀栀攀礀ഊcause heat. ਀ഊFrancisco Nuñez de Oria, "Aviso de Sanidad" (Advice on Health), Madrid, 1572 ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀愀氀昀愀洀愀⸀猀椀洀⸀甀挀洀⸀攀猀⼀搀椀漀猀挀漀爀椀搀攀猀⼀挀漀渀猀甀氀琀愀开氀椀戀爀漀⸀愀猀瀀㼀爀攀昀㴀堀㔀㌀㌀㄀㈀㘀㐀㈀㜀ഊ ਀䈀爀椀最栀椀搀 渀椀 䌀栀椀愀爀愀椀渀 ⨀⨀⨀ 洀欀愀 刀漀戀椀渀 䌀愀爀爀漀氀氀ⴀ䴀愀渀渀ഊBarony of Settmour Swamp, East Kingdom ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䘀爀椀Ⰰ ㌀  䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㐀 ㄀㈀㨀㌀㔀㨀㈀㈀ ⴀ 㐀   ⠀䜀䴀吀ⴀ 㐀㨀  ⤀ഊFrom: Robin Carroll-Mann ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䄀氀漀砀愀Ⰰ 愀 栀漀渀攀礀 搀爀椀渀欀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊ-----Original Message----- ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀倀椀砀攀氀Ⰰ 䜀漀搀搀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 儀甀攀攀渀∀ 㰀瀀椀砀攀氀 愀琀 栀甀渀搀爀攀搀ⴀ愀挀爀攀ⴀ眀漀漀搀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊ ਀䌀漀漀氀℀ 䤀猀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀 琀栀攀 䴀匀 愀戀漀甀琀 眀栀愀琀 ∀栀漀琀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀∀ 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀ഊgenerally considered to be, or do we just go with what we like? What ਀猀瀀椀挀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 瀀漀瀀甀氀愀爀 椀渀 匀瀀愀椀渀 愀琀 琀栀愀琀 琀椀洀攀㼀ഊ ਀䴀愀爀最愀爀攀琀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 渀漀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 最椀瘀攀渀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 渀漀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀攀搀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀 搀爀椀渀欀⸀  䤀琀 ഊis a health manual, not a cookbook. Elsewhere in the book, it mentions ਀琀栀愀琀 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ 挀氀漀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最愀氀椀渀最愀氀攀 愀爀攀 愀氀氀 栀漀琀⸀  夀漀甀 挀愀渀 最攀琀 愀渀 椀搀攀愀 ഊof popular spices in 16th century Spain by looking at my translation of ਀搀攀 一漀氀愀Ⰰ 攀猀瀀攀挀椀愀氀氀礀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 ㈀ 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 㘀⸀ഊhttp://www.florilegium.org/files/FOOD-MANUSCRIPTS/Guisados1-art.html ਀ഊPersonally, I'd use the spices which de Nola recommends for clarea and ਀栀礀瀀漀挀爀愀猀 ⴀⴀ 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ 挀氀漀瘀攀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 最椀渀最攀爀 ⴀⴀ 愀渀搀 瀀爀漀瀀漀爀琀椀漀渀 愀挀挀漀爀搀椀渀最 琀漀 ഊtaste. ਀ഊBrighid ni Chiarain ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㐀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㘀 ㈀ 㨀㔀㐀㨀㐀㤀 ⴀ 㔀  ഊFrom: Robert Downie ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 ㄀㘀琀栀 䌀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀㼀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊlilinah at earthlink.net wrote: ਀ഊ> Actually, Urtatim wrote: ਀㸀ഊ>>> Can anyone recommend sources for 16th century non-alcoholic ਀㸀㸀㸀  戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀㼀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 愀 戀爀攀眀攀爀 愀渀搀 眀漀渀✀琀 戀攀 洀愀欀椀渀最 愀氀攀 漀爀 挀椀搀攀爀  ഊ>>> between now and then. ਀㸀ഊ> I looked in Digby. If i were a brewer or vintner, i'd be happy. And ਀㸀 椀✀瘀攀 渀攀瘀攀爀 猀攀攀渀 猀漀 洀愀渀礀 洀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 洀攀愀搀ⴀ氀椀欀攀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 椀渀 漀渀攀ഊ> place (well, other than a book about making mead). Digby is all about ਀㸀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀愀琀椀漀渀Ⰰ 戀愀戀礀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䤀 樀甀猀琀 眀椀猀栀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀℀ 䤀 洀攀愀渀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀✀猀ഊ> plenty of evidence for the use of sugar, plenty of evidence for ਀㸀 挀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀爀甀椀琀 椀渀 猀甀最愀爀⸀⸀⸀ 戀甀琀 渀漀 搀愀爀渀 昀爀甀椀琀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀 椀渀 䐀椀最戀礀 漀爀 愀渀礀 漀昀ഊ> the other 16th and early 17th C. books i have. ਀ഊThere is a lemonade recipe in _The French Cook_ 1651 (getting a little ਀氀愀琀攀Ⰰ 䤀 欀渀漀眀⤀ 戀礀 䘀爀愀渀挀漀椀猀 倀椀攀爀爀攀 䰀愀 嘀愀爀攀渀渀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀 栀愀渀搀礀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 洀礀 猀挀爀椀戀戀氀攀搀 渀漀琀攀猀 猀愀礀㨀ഊ1 cup lemon juice ਀㄀ 挀甀瀀 猀甀最愀爀ഊ2 cups water ਀昀氀漀眀攀爀猀 椀昀 搀攀猀椀爀攀搀 ⠀樀愀猀洀椀渀攀Ⰰ 漀爀愀渀最攀 戀氀漀猀猀漀洀猀Ⰰ 洀甀猀挀愀搀攀 爀漀猀攀猀Ⰰ 漀爀 最椀氀氀礀ഊflowers) ਀ഊBoil the water and sugar together, allow to cool slightly and add the ਀氀攀洀漀渀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䘀愀攀爀椀猀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:56:47 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀 㰀樀漀栀渀渀愀 愀琀 猀椀琀欀愀⸀攀渀最椀渀⸀甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] 16th C non-alcoholic drinks? ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䐀愀渀椀攀氀 倀栀攀氀瀀猀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> While I seem to have misplaced my copy of it, Karen Hess's work ਀㸀 ∀䴀愀爀琀栀愀 圀愀猀栀椀渀最琀漀渀✀猀 䈀漀漀欀 漀昀 䌀漀漀欀攀爀礀∀ 洀椀最栀琀 戀攀 眀漀爀琀栀 愀 氀漀漀欀⸀ഊ> ਀㸀 䐀愀渀椀攀氀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀猀礀Ⰰ 䴀椀氀漀爀搀Ⰰ 栀攀爀攀猀礀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 洀椀猀氀愀椀搀 猀漀 瘀愀氀甀愀戀氀攀 愀 琀攀砀琀⸀ഊMine is here at hand. ਀䰀攀琀✀猀 猀攀攀⸀⸀ 氀漀琀猀 漀渀 眀椀渀攀猀Ⰰ 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 眀椀渀攀猀Ⰰഊdiscussions of beer and ale, verjuice, There is a bottled lemon water ਀刀㌀㈀㄀⸀ഊMention that Ingatestone Hall had piped supply of 'sweet' ਀猀瀀爀椀渀最 眀愀琀攀爀 漀渀 瀀愀最攀 ㄀㜀⸀ഊ ਀䈀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 漀渀 瀀愀最攀 ㌀㘀㌀ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 匀䤀刀刀唀倀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 愀渀搀ഊHess notes that these were clearly medicinal, but that they would have been ਀甀猀攀搀 琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 挀漀漀氀椀渀最 搀爀椀渀欀猀 椀渀 眀愀爀洀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀ഊfor sirrups of violets, roses, etc. Lots of steeping of petals in water. ਀夀漀甀 挀漀甀氀搀 猀甀戀猀琀椀琀甀琀攀 戀漀琀琀氀攀搀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀 䤀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀栀椀渀欀⸀ഊThe manuscripts are dated circa 1580-1625,. ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㘀  㠀㨀㄀㈀㨀 㐀 ⴀ 㜀   ⠀倀䐀吀⤀ഊFrom: Tom Vincent ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 ㄀㘀琀栀 䌀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀㼀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊI recall seeing some drinks for the infirmed listed in either ਀嘀椀愀渀搀椀攀爀 漀昀 吀愀椀氀氀攀瘀攀渀琀 漀爀 䄀 匀椀瀀 吀栀爀漀甀最栀 吀椀洀攀ഊ ਀   䠀攀爀攀✀猀 漀渀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 搀椀猀挀爀攀搀椀琀攀搀 䘀愀戀甀氀漀甀猀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀㨀ഊ ਀   匀瀀椀挀礀 倀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 䐀爀椀渀欀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀ഊ ਀   䄀甀琀栀漀爀⼀匀甀戀洀椀琀琀攀搀 戀礀㨀ഊServings: 1 ਀䌀愀琀攀最漀爀椀攀猀㨀 䘀爀甀椀琀猀 ⼀ 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 ⼀ 一漀渀ⴀ䄀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 䈀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀ഊ Ingredients: ਀  ㄀⸀㔀  挀 圀愀琀攀爀ഊ 1.00 c Sugar ਀   ⸀㔀  琀猀 䌀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀ഊ 0.25 ts Nutmeg ਀   ⸀㄀㌀ 琀猀 䜀椀渀最攀爀ഊ 4.00 ea Whole cloves ਀   ⸀㔀  攀愀 唀渀戀氀攀洀椀猀栀攀搀 氀攀洀漀渀ഊ 1.00 qt Fresh pomegranate juice -OR- ਀  㘀⸀   攀愀 吀漀 㠀 洀攀搀椀甀洀ⴀ猀椀稀攀搀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀猀Ⰰ 猀欀椀渀渀攀搀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀椀琀栀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀Ⰰ 猀攀攀搀猀Ⰰ 猀焀甀攀攀稀攀搀Ⰰ 瀀甀氀瘀攀爀椀稀攀搀 愀渀搀 猀琀爀愀椀渀攀搀ഊ ਀   䐀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀㨀ഊIn a large enameled pot combine water, sugar, and all spices. Bring ਀琀漀 愀 戀漀椀氀 愀渀搀 最攀渀琀氀礀 猀椀洀洀攀爀 昀漀爀 㜀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀⸀ 刀攀洀漀瘀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 挀氀漀瘀攀猀⸀  ഊFinely grate the lemon peel and reserve it. Squeeze the juice from ਀琀栀攀 氀攀洀漀渀⸀ 䄀搀搀 琀栀攀 瀀漀洀攀最爀愀渀愀琀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 愀渀搀 氀攀洀漀渀 樀甀椀挀攀 琀漀 琀栀攀 栀漀琀  ഊspiced fluid. Bring to slow boil, then simmer for 2 minutes. Serve ਀眀愀爀洀 眀椀琀栀 愀 最愀爀渀椀猀栀 漀昀 最爀愀琀攀搀 氀攀洀漀渀 瀀攀攀氀 昀漀爀 攀愀挀栀 最氀愀猀猀⸀ 伀爀 猀攀爀瘀攀  ഊcool, garnishing each glass with peel and a small wedge of fresh ਀氀攀洀漀渀⸀ 䘀爀漀洀 开䘀愀戀甀氀漀甀猀 䘀攀愀猀琀猀ⴀ 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 䌀漀漀欀攀爀礀 愀渀搀 䌀攀爀攀洀漀渀礀开 戀礀  ഊMadeleine Pelner Cosman George Braziller, Inc. ISBN 0-8076-0832-7 ਀吀礀瀀漀猀 戀礀 䨀攀昀昀 倀爀甀攀琀琀 匀甀戀洀椀琀琀攀搀 䈀礀 匀吀䔀倀䠀䔀一 䠀䄀䘀䘀䰀夀 伀渀  㔀ⴀ㄀㔀ⴀ㤀㔀 ⠀㈀ ㄀㔀⤀ഊ ਀   栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀愀猀ⴀ栀椀搀攀漀甀琀⸀挀漀洀⼀搀爀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⼀爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀⸀瀀栀瀀㼀 ഊpage=drrecipes&data=q-z/Spicy_Pomegranate_Drink_Medieval ਀ഊ Of course, you can always make a Medieval wine drink with that ਀渀攀甀琀攀爀攀搀 眀椀渀攀 猀琀甀昀昀⸀ഊ ਀   䐀甀爀椀攀氀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:17:43 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䬀愀琀栀攀爀椀渀攀 吀栀爀漀挀欀洀漀爀琀漀渀∀ 㰀欀琀栀爀漀挀欀洀漀爀琀漀渀 愀琀 氀礀挀漀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] 16th C non-alcoholic drinks? ਀吀漀㨀 ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀唀爀琀愀琀椀洀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ> Can anyone recommend sources for 16th century non-alcoholic ਀㸀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀㼀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 愀 戀爀攀眀攀爀 愀渀搀 眀漀渀✀琀 戀攀 洀愀欀椀渀最 愀氀攀 漀爀 挀椀搀攀爀 戀攀琀眀攀攀渀ഊ> now and then. ਀ഊTo the best of my knowledge there isn't a whole lot out there. There ਀椀猀 琀栀攀 栀礀搀爀漀洀攀氀  昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 开䬀漀最 䈀漀最开Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 䐀愀渀椀猀栀⸀  吀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 眀愀猀  ഊpublished in 1616, so the recipie is just slightly OOP. Other than ਀琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 琀栀椀渀最猀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀洀攀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀 椀猀 猀漀洀攀 猀琀甀昀昀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀  ഊ_Domestoii_,a 16th century Muscovoy text, which basically involves ਀挀漀漀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 愀氀挀漀栀漀氀 漀甀琀 漀昀 洀攀愀搀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀渀 愀搀搀椀渀最 昀爀甀椀琀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀  ഊtype in the _Domestoii_ information if you are interested. In the ਀洀攀愀渀琀椀洀攀 栀攀爀攀 椀猀 琀栀攀 漀渀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 开䬀漀最 䈀漀最开㨀ഊ ਀圀栀椀琀攀 洀攀愀搀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 甀猀攀搀 猀漀漀渀ഊTake one measure white honey and eight measures fresh spring water. ਀䰀攀琀 琀栀椀猀 猀攀攀琀栀攀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 㐀 栀漀甀爀猀 愀渀搀 猀挀甀洀 椀琀 眀攀氀氀⸀ 夀漀甀 洀甀猀琀 渀漀琀 洀愀欀攀  ഊit too thick. Let it then stand to cool. Thereafter sieve it through ਀愀 䰀甀琀攀渀搀爀愀渀挀欀猀 戀愀最 嬀猀琀爀愀椀渀椀渀最 戀愀最崀 眀椀琀栀 栀攀爀戀猀Ⰰ 挀椀渀渀愀洀漀渀Ⰰ 挀愀爀搀愀洀漀洀Ⰰ  ഊcubeb, galingale, grains of paradise, ginger, long pepper and cloves. ਀䴀礀 爀攀搀愀挀琀椀漀渀㨀ഊ1 cup honey ਀㄀㈀ 挀甀瀀猀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊ1 stick cinnamon in pieces ਀㌀ 眀栀漀氀攀 挀愀爀搀漀洀漀渀猀ഊ3-5 cloves ਀㄀ 椀渀挀栀 瀀椀攀挀攀 瀀攀攀氀攀搀 昀爀攀猀栀 漀爀 眀栀漀氀攀 搀爀礀 最椀渀最攀爀ഊ2-3 grains of paradise ਀ഊSimmer honey and water for 4 hours adding more water if it starts to ਀戀攀挀漀洀攀 琀栀椀挀欀⸀  刀攀洀漀瘀攀 昀爀漀洀 栀攀愀琀Ⰰ 愀搀搀 猀瀀椀挀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀琀爀愀椀渀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀⸀   ഊLet cool and serve. ਀ഊNotes: I use more water than the original recipe as so as to make a ਀氀攀猀猀 猀眀攀攀琀 搀爀椀渀欀⸀ 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 戀攀攀渀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 氀漀渀最 瀀攀瀀瀀攀爀 漀爀  ഊgalingale so my redaction doesn't include them. This should be drunk ਀猀漀漀渀 愀昀琀攀爀 戀攀椀渀最 洀愀搀攀Ⰰ 愀昀琀攀爀 愀 挀漀甀瀀氀攀 漀昀 搀愀礀猀 椀琀 挀愀渀 猀琀愀爀琀 琀漀  ഊferment. If you wish to store it, it can be refrigerated for 2-3 days ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 吀甀攀Ⰰ ㈀㔀 䄀瀀爀 ㈀  㘀 ㄀㠀㨀㐀㌀㨀㄀㜀 ⴀ 㐀  ഊFrom: Johnna Holloway ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 ㄀㘀琀栀 䌀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀㼀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊI checked the new edition of La Varenne by Scully. ਀吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 䰀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀 愀渀搀 伀爀愀渀最攀愀搀攀 愀猀 眀攀氀氀 愀猀 愀 猀攀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀ഊof Italian Waters. These are in the French Confectioner. ਀ഊI suppose bottled spring or still waters of choice would be an ਀漀瀀琀椀漀渀 愀氀猀漀⸀ 伀爀 氀攀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀漀渀攀 䈀夀伀䈀 漀爀 樀甀猀琀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 挀栀椀氀氀攀搀 猀漀搀愀猀 眀椀琀栀ഊice and finely chopped ice/snow. Summer requires ice these days. ਀吀栀攀 唀匀䄀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀搀ഊitself with a multitude of drinks that go far beyond what the rest of ਀琀栀攀 眀漀爀氀搀 漀昀昀攀爀猀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 椀挀攀 漀爀 渀漀 椀挀攀 愀渀搀 栀漀眀 挀漀氀搀 椀猀 愀ഊcan of chilled soda is still something one encounters in England today. ਀䤀 欀渀漀眀 䤀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 搀漀眀渀 愀 氀漀琀 漀昀 眀愀爀洀 挀愀渀猀 漀昀 猀漀搀愀猀 漀渀 琀栀椀猀 氀愀猀琀 琀爀椀瀀⸀ഊ ਀䨀漀栀渀渀愀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:19:43 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀䔀洀攀氀礀渀攀 圀礀漀琀攀∀ 㰀攀洀攀氀礀渀攀开眀礀漀琀攀 愀琀 猀戀挀最氀漀戀愀氀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊSubject: RE: [Sca-cooks] 16th C non-alcoholic drinks? ਀吀漀㨀 ∀✀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀✀∀ 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀 昀攀眀 琀栀椀渀最猀 昀爀漀洀 吀栀漀洀愀猀 䔀氀礀漀琀✀猀 ㄀㔀㐀㜀 䌀愀猀琀攀氀 漀昀 䠀攀氀琀栀 眀栀椀挀栀 洀椀最栀琀ഊwork, although people MIGHT consider these to be more medicines than ਀戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 挀愀猀攀猀⸀  䠀攀 搀漀攀猀 琀愀氀欀 愀 氀漀琀 愀戀漀甀琀 搀椀攀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 攀昀昀攀挀琀猀 漀昀ഊvarious foods on the humors, so maybe you can pass this off as a period ਀猀漀甀爀挀攀 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 昀漀漀搀猀琀甀昀昀猀⸀ഊ ਀䠀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 漀砀椀洀攀氀氀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 椀猀 ㄀ 瀀愀爀琀 瘀椀渀攀最愀爀 琀漀 ㈀ 瀀愀爀琀猀 栀漀渀攀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀  ഊfrom what I can tell boiled into 4 parts water: ਀ഊOximell is, where to one parte of vyneger is put double to moche of hony, ਀昀漀甀爀攀 琀椀洀攀猀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 漀昀 眀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀栀愀琀 戀攀礀渀最攀 戀漀礀氀攀搀 甀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 琀栀礀爀搀攀 瀀愀爀琀攀Ⰰഊand cleane skymened with a fether... ਀ഊ ਀䠀攀 愀氀猀漀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 洀愀欀椀渀最 愀 瀀攀愀挀栀 猀礀爀甀瀀㨀ഊ ਀伀昀 琀栀攀 椀甀礀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀洀 嬀瀀攀愀挀栀攀猀崀 洀愀礀 戀攀 洀愀搀攀 愀 猀礀爀漀瀀攀Ⰰ 瘀攀爀礀 栀漀氀猀漀洀攀 愀最愀椀渀猀琀ഊthe distemperaunce of choler... ਀ഊ ਀䠀攀 愀氀猀漀 琀愀氀欀猀 愀戀漀甀琀 漀爀愀渀最攀 樀甀椀挀攀 洀椀砀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 栀攀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀猀 ∀攀愀琀椀渀最∀ഊit instead of "drinking" it, so I don't know if you could pass this off as ਀愀渀 漀爀愀渀最攀愀搀攀 漀爀 渀漀琀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 栀攀 挀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 爀攀昀攀爀爀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀攀 瀀爀攀瘀椀漀甀猀 甀猀愀最攀 漀昀ഊorange juice: ਀ഊThe iuyce of oranges, havynge a toste of breade put unto it, with a lyttell ਀瀀漀眀搀攀爀 漀昀 洀礀渀琀攀猀Ⰰ 猀甀最愀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀 氀礀琀琀攀氀氀 挀礀渀愀洀漀渀椀攀Ⰰ 洀愀欀攀琀栀 愀 瘀攀爀礀 最漀漀搀 猀愀眀挀攀ഊto provoke appetite. The iuyce eaten with sugar in a hotte fever, is not to ਀戀攀 搀礀猀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀攀搀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 愀挀挀攀猀猀攀搀 琀栀椀猀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䔀愀爀氀礀 䔀渀最氀椀猀栀 䈀漀漀欀猀 伀渀氀椀渀攀 搀愀琀愀戀愀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀䔀洀攀氀礀渀攀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:57:43 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䨀漀栀渀渀愀 䠀漀氀氀漀眀愀礀 㰀樀漀栀渀渀愀 愀琀 猀椀琀欀愀⸀攀渀最椀渀⸀甀洀椀挀栀⸀攀搀甀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Lemonade in medieval Egypt ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 甀瀀 愀 樀甀椀挀攀 焀甀漀琀攀猀 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 瀀爀椀渀琀攀搀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀ഊappears to have just appeared in La Varenne which is 1650's. ਀吀栀攀爀攀✀猀 琀栀椀猀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀ⴀⴀഊ ਀䴀愀渀礀 洀攀渀 瀀甀琀琀攀 㼀攀爀琀漀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀爀 㼀攀 䤀甀猀攀 漀昀 氀礀洀漀渀猀 漀爀 漀昀 漀爀攀渀最攀猀⸀ഊ [Many men put thereto in summer the juice of lemons or of oranges.] ਀ഊChauliac 2(Paris angl. 25 156a/b) c1425 ਀ഊI keep thinking I'll turn up something in that later 15th-16th century gap. ਀ഊJohnnae ਀ഊlilinah at earthlink.net wrote: ਀ഊmy ਀瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 眀愀猀 昀椀渀搀椀渀最 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 ㄀㘀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀⸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:45:13 +0100 (CET) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀攀爀愀 瀀椀漀洀 㰀猀攀爀愀瀀椀漀洀㜀㐀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀椀琀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] early european 'beverage'? / pear juice ਀吀漀㨀 猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀㰀㰀 伀渀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 䰀椀猀琀Ⰰ 愀 猀挀栀漀氀愀爀 洀攀渀琀椀漀渀攀搀 琀栀椀猀㨀ഊ"Fortunatus in the sixth century describes the abstemious ਀刀愀搀攀最甀渀搀 愀猀 搀爀椀渀欀椀渀最 漀渀氀礀 眀愀琀攀爀 猀眀攀攀琀攀渀攀搀 眀椀琀栀ഊpear juice." >> ਀ഊAs far as I can see, he mentioned two different drinks. ਀嘀攀渀愀渀琀椀甀猀 䘀漀爀琀甀渀愀琀甀猀 ⠀猀攀攀 倀愀琀爀漀氀漀最椀愀 䰀愀琀椀渀愀 瘀漀氀⸀ 㠀㠀Ⰰ㔀 㐀⤀ഊwrote: ਀∀瀀漀琀甀洀 瘀攀爀漀 瀀爀愀攀琀攀爀 愀焀甀愀洀 洀甀氀猀愀洀Ⰰ 愀琀焀甀攀 嬀一伀吀䔀 洀崀 瀀椀爀愀琀椀甀洀ഊnon bibit; [NOTE n] vini vero puritatem, aut [NOTE o] medi ਀搀攀挀漀挀琀椀漀渀攀洀Ⰰ 挀攀爀瘀椀猀椀愀攀焀甀攀 琀甀爀戀椀搀椀渀攀洀 渀漀渀 挀漀渀琀椀最椀琀⸀∀ഊ ਀吀栀愀琀 椀猀㨀 猀栀攀 搀爀愀渀欀 渀漀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 愀瀀愀爀琀 昀爀漀洀 猀眀攀攀琀攀渀攀搀 眀愀琀攀爀ഊand pear juice. "Piratium" is a noun referring to ਀瀀攀愀爀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 渀漀琀攀 洀 猀愀礀猀 ∀倀礀爀愀琀椀甀洀Ⰰ 猀攀甀 瀀礀爀愀琀椀挀甀洀Ⰰ 攀爀愀琀ഊsuccus expressus e pyris, qui pro vino adhibebatur. ਀匀⸀ 䠀椀攀爀漀渀⸀Ⰰ 氀椀戀⸀ 䤀䤀 挀漀渀琀爀愀 䨀漀瘀椀渀⸀ ✀倀愀甀氀甀猀✀Ⰰ 椀渀焀甀椀琀Ⰰഊ'Timotheo dolenti stomachum, vinum suadet bibere, non piratium'." ਀刀漀甀最栀氀礀㨀 倀礀爀愀琀椀甀洀 椀猀 樀甀椀挀攀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀猀 戀攀攀渀ഊpressed from pears. It is used instead of wine. Hieronymus ਀爀攀瀀漀爀琀猀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 倀愀甀氀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀攀搀 琀漀 吀椀洀漀琀栀攀甀猀Ⰰ 眀栀漀 栀愀搀 愀 戀愀搀ഊstomach, to drink wine instead of pear juice. ਀ഊIn another Vita S. Radegundis, Hildebertus Cenomanensis ਀⠀倀䰀 ㄀㜀㄀⸀㤀㜀㘀⤀ 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ"Sitim, quam nimia panis accendit ariditas, vel aquae mulsae, ਀瘀攀氀 瀀椀爀愀琀椀椀 栀愀甀猀琀甀 洀椀琀椀最愀瘀椀琀⸀ 一愀洀 瘀椀渀椀Ⰰ 猀攀甀 挀攀爀瘀椀猀椀愀攀 渀甀氀氀愀洀ഊfecit omnino mentionem." ਀刀漀甀最栀氀礀㨀 匀栀攀 洀椀琀椀最愀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀爀猀琀Ⰰ 愀爀漀甀猀攀搀 戀礀 琀栀攀 猀琀爀漀渀最ഊdryness of the bread, by drinking either sweetened water ਀漀爀 瀀攀愀爀 樀甀椀挀攀⸀ഊ ਀䤀渀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 䌀愀瀀椀琀甀氀愀爀椀愀 䌀愀爀漀氀椀 䴀愀最渀椀 ⠀倀䰀 㤀㜀⸀㌀㔀㔀⤀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊproducing pear juice are even mentioned: ਀ഊ"45. Ut unusquisque iudex in suo ministerio bonos habeat artifices, ਀椀搀 攀猀琀 昀愀戀爀漀猀 昀攀爀爀愀爀椀漀猀Ⰰ 攀琀 愀甀爀椀昀椀挀攀猀Ⰰ 瘀攀氀 愀爀最攀渀琀愀爀椀漀猀Ⰰ 猀甀琀漀爀攀猀Ⰰഊtornatores, carpentarios, scutarios, piscatores, aucipites, ਀椀搀 攀猀琀 愀甀挀攀氀氀愀琀漀爀攀猀Ⰰ 猀愀瀀漀渀愀爀椀漀猀Ⰰ 猀椀挀攀爀愀琀漀爀攀猀Ⰰ 椀搀 攀猀琀 焀甀椀ഊcervisam vel pomatium, sive piratium, vel aliud quodcumque ਀氀椀焀甀愀洀攀渀 愀搀 戀椀戀攀渀搀甀洀 愀瀀琀甀洀 昀甀攀爀椀琀Ⰰ 昀愀挀攀爀攀 猀挀椀愀渀琀㬀 瀀椀猀琀漀爀攀猀Ⰰഊ(...)". ਀刀漀甀最栀氀礀㨀 琀栀攀 猀椀挀攀爀愀琀漀爀攀猀 嬀戀爀攀眀攀爀猀崀Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀 椀猀 琀栀攀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀ഊwho know to make beer, apple juice, pear juice or any ਀漀琀栀攀爀 昀氀甀椀搀 眀栀椀挀栀 漀渀攀 洀愀礀 搀爀椀渀欀⸀ഊ ਀匀攀爀愀昀椀渀愀 倀椀漀洀戀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 02:26:28 +0100 (CET) ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 猀攀爀愀 瀀椀漀洀 㰀猀攀爀愀瀀椀漀洀㜀㐀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀⸀椀琀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] pear juice, pears and Alexander Neckam's 'De ਀ऀ渀愀琀甀爀椀猀 爀攀爀甀洀✀ഊTo: sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org ਀ഊ> Very interesting stuff! Where was this from? Italy? ਀ഊVenantius Fortunatus was born in Italy (i.e. what is Italy today), ਀戀甀琀 氀愀琀攀爀 漀渀 洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 䘀爀愀渀挀攀⸀ 刀愀搀攀最甀渀搀椀猀 眀愀猀 戀漀爀渀 椀渀 眀栀愀琀 椀猀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀礀  ഊtoday. She was sort of kidnapped and brought to France, where she -- ਀氀漀渀最 猀琀漀爀礀 猀渀椀瀀瀀攀搀 ⴀⴀ 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀 昀漀甀渀搀攀搀 愀 洀漀渀愀猀琀攀爀礀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀眀栀攀爀攀 愀爀漀甀渀搀  ഊPoitiers. ਀ഊ> Since the word "siceratores" (brewers) is used, are they talking ਀㸀 愀戀漀甀琀 昀攀爀洀攀渀琀攀搀 瀀攀愀爀 樀甀椀挀攀 ⠀猀椀洀椀氀愀爀 琀漀 栀愀爀搀 挀椀搀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 漀爀 昀爀攀猀栀Ⰰ 漀爀 戀漀琀栀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 愀洀 渀漀琀 猀甀爀攀⸀ 吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 猀漀洀攀 眀攀戀猀椀琀攀猀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀  ഊpassage from the Capitulare de villis as a source for the history of ਀挀椀搀爀攀Ⰰ 愀瀀瀀氀攀 眀椀渀攀Ⰰ 瀀攀愀爀 眀椀渀攀⸀ 吀栀攀 瀀愀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀 瘀椀琀愀 爀愀琀栀攀爀  ഊindicate a non-alcoholic interpretation. ਀ഊSpeaking of pears, I just found, that Alexander Neckam's 'De naturis ਀爀攀爀甀洀✀ 椀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 愀琀㨀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀戀漀漀欀猀⸀最漀漀最氀攀⸀挀漀洀ഊ ਀匀攀愀爀挀栀 昀漀爀 ∀渀攀挀欀愀洀∀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 栀愀瘀攀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 ㄀㠀㘀㌀ 攀搀椀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 愀  ഊdownloadable file (size 19 MBs). Pears are mentioned on pages 174f ਀愀渀搀 㐀㠀㌀⸀ 一漀Ⰰ 椀琀 搀椀搀 渀漀琀 爀攀愀搀 琀栀攀 眀栀漀氀攀 琀栀椀渀最 礀攀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 愀渀 椀渀搀攀砀⸀ഊ ਀䔀渀樀漀礀Ⰰ 匀攀爀愀昀椀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:30:03 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䜀甀渀琀攀爀 㰀挀漀甀渀琀最甀渀琀栀愀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: Re: [Sca-cooks] 12th Night Feast tentative menu ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 ∀䠀漀琀 愀瀀瀀氀攀 搀爀椀渀欀∀㼀 匀漀甀渀搀猀 椀渀琀爀椀最甀椀渀最⸀ 倀氀攀愀猀攀 攀氀愀戀漀爀愀琀攀㼀 ഊ> ਀㸀 䬀愀琀樀愀ഊ ਀䄀最愀椀渀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 挀氀愀猀猀㨀ഊ ਀匀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 䄀瀀瀀氀攀猀ഊTake a ratl of sweet apples, those that the common people call sar?j ਀嬀琀栀椀猀 洀椀最栀琀 洀攀愀渀 ∀氀椀琀琀氀攀 氀愀洀瀀猀∀崀Ⰰ 挀漀漀欀 琀栀攀洀 椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀 琀漀 挀漀瘀攀爀 甀渀琀椀氀  ഊthey fall apart and their substance comes out, then clarify it and ਀琀愀欀攀 琀栀攀 挀氀攀愀爀 瀀愀爀琀 愀渀搀 愀搀搀 椀琀 琀漀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 猀甀最愀爀⸀ 吀栀攀 戀愀最㨀 愀渀 㼀焀椀礀愀  ഊof aloe stems, pounded and put into the bag. Cook until it takes the ਀昀漀爀洀 漀昀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 䐀爀椀渀欀 愀渀 㼀焀椀礀愀 椀渀 琀眀漀 漀昀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀⸀ 䤀琀猀 戀攀渀攀昀椀琀猀㨀 椀琀  ഊfortifies and gladdens the heart. ਀ഊIn reproducing this I took 5 lbs of a mix of Gala and Braeburn ਀愀瀀瀀氀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 愀渀礀 猀眀攀攀琀 愀瀀瀀氀攀 眀漀甀氀搀 搀漀Ⰰ 眀愀猀栀攀搀 愀渀搀 焀甀愀爀琀攀爀攀搀 琀栀攀洀⸀ 吀栀攀渀  ഊput them in a large stockpot and covered with water. I cooked the ਀愀瀀瀀氀攀猀 漀瘀攀爀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 栀攀愀琀 昀漀爀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 愀渀搀 愀 栀愀氀昀 甀渀琀椀氀 琀栀攀礀 昀攀氀氀  ഊapart easily when pressed with a spoon. Once the apples were soft and ਀栀愀搀 最椀瘀攀渀 甀瀀 琀栀攀椀爀 樀甀椀挀攀 䤀 瀀漀甀爀攀搀 琀栀攀 洀愀猀猀 椀渀琀漀 愀 猀琀爀愀椀渀攀爀 猀攀琀 漀瘀攀爀  ഊanother stockpot. I then lightly mashed the apples to give out as ਀洀甀挀栀 樀甀椀挀攀 愀猀 瀀漀猀猀椀戀氀攀 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 猀漀 洀甀挀栀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 愀渀 愀瀀瀀氀攀猀愀甀挀攀⸀ 吀栀攀  ഊapple remains were discarded. ਀ഊIn my investigations of aloe I have found it has been used both ਀琀漀瀀椀挀愀氀氀礀 愀渀搀 椀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀氀礀 昀漀爀 挀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 愀氀漀攀 瀀氀愀渀琀 椀猀  ഊabundant in the area so just regular aloe stems would work. ਀ഊUnfortunately, among the medical benefits of aloe laxative properties ਀愀爀攀 愀氀猀漀 渀漀琀攀搀⸀ 䤀 搀漀渀✀琀 琀栀椀渀欀 琀栀愀琀 猀琀攀攀瀀椀渀最 挀爀甀猀栀攀搀 猀琀攀洀猀 椀渀 琀栀攀  ഊjuice would give anyone a case of discomfort, but I would rather not ਀爀椀猀欀 椀琀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 愀氀猀漀 渀漀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀甀氀瀀 漀昀 琀栀攀 愀氀漀攀 椀猀 瘀攀爀礀 戀椀琀琀攀爀⸀  ഊI feel the aloe was not only included for medicinal benefit but also ਀昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀椀琀琀攀爀渀攀猀猀 琀漀 戀愀氀愀渀挀攀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 猀眀攀攀琀 愀瀀瀀氀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ 䘀漀爀  ഊthis purpose I chose regular tea bags. In the future I will try the ਀挀爀甀猀栀攀搀 愀氀漀攀 琀漀 猀攀攀 椀昀 琀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 愀渀礀 椀氀氀 攀昀昀攀挀琀猀 戀甀琀 昀漀爀 洀礀 昀椀爀猀琀 琀爀礀  ഊand for an item to be distributed to the masses I went with something ਀愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 氀攀猀猀 瀀漀琀攀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀 琀漀漀欀 琀栀攀 樀甀椀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀椀洀洀攀爀攀搀 愀瀀瀀氀攀猀Ⰰ 愀搀搀攀搀 愀 栀愀氀昀 搀漀稀攀渀 䰀椀瀀琀漀渀  ഊtea bags and nearly an equal volume of turbado sugar. Then I just ਀氀攀昀琀 琀栀攀 洀椀砀琀甀爀攀 琀漀 爀攀搀甀挀攀 漀瘀攀爀 洀攀搀椀甀洀 氀漀眀 栀攀愀琀 漀瘀攀爀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 栀漀甀爀猀⸀  ഊThe end result was a thick dark syrup of intense sweet/bitter flavor. ਀吀栀攀 爀攀挀椀瀀攀 挀愀氀氀猀 昀漀爀 椀琀 琀漀 戀攀 洀椀砀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 栀漀琀 眀愀琀攀爀 愀渀搀 琀栀椀猀 挀爀攀愀琀攀猀 愀  ഊvery satisfying ?hot toddy? effect. This is great for a cool evening. ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㄀㌀ 䘀攀戀 ㈀  㠀 ㄀ 㨀 㤀㨀㈀㄀ ⴀ 㘀  ഊFrom: Michael Gunter ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嬀匀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀崀 䈀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀 攀砀瀀攀爀椀洀攀渀琀猀ഊTo: Cooks within the SCA ਀ഊ> Thank you. I'd enjoy seeing an email copy of the class ਀㸀 渀漀琀攀猀 椀昀 椀琀✀猀 愀氀爀攀愀搀礀 琀礀瀀攀搀 椀渀 漀爀 挀漀甀氀搀 氀漀漀欀 椀琀 甀瀀 椀昀 椀琀✀猀ഊ> on the web somewhere. ਀ഊThe notes aren't on the web but a lot of information can ਀戀攀 昀漀甀渀搀 漀甀琀 琀栀攀爀攀⸀ 䤀 猀甀最最攀猀琀 挀栀攀挀欀椀渀最 䌀愀爀椀愀搀漀挀✀猀 䴀椀猀挀攀氀氀愀渀礀ഊsince he has translated a lot of Arabic recipes. ਀ഊDigby's "Weak Honey Drink" won acclaim at Kingdom A&S this ਀眀攀攀欀攀渀搀⸀ഊ ਀圀攀愀欀 䠀漀渀攀礀 䐀爀椀渀欀ഊ(More commonly called Small Mead) ਀䐀椀最戀礀 瀀⸀ ㄀ 㜀⼀㄀㐀㜀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 渀椀渀攀 瀀椀渀琀猀 漀昀 眀愀爀洀 昀漀甀渀琀愀椀渀 眀愀琀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 搀椀猀猀漀氀瘀攀 椀渀 椀琀 漀渀攀 瀀椀渀琀  ഊof pure White-honey, by laving it therein, till it be dissolved. Then ਀戀漀椀氀 椀琀 最攀渀琀氀礀Ⰰ 猀欀椀洀洀椀渀最 椀琀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 眀栀椀氀攀Ⰰ 琀椀氀氀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 猀挀甀洀 戀攀  ഊperfectly scummed off; and after that boil it a little longer, ਀瀀攀爀愀搀瘀攀渀琀甀爀攀 愀 焀甀愀爀琀攀爀 漀昀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀⸀ 䤀渀 愀氀氀 椀琀 眀椀氀氀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀 琀眀漀 漀爀  ഊthree hours boiling, so that at last one third part may be consumed. ਀䄀戀漀甀琀 愀 焀甀愀爀琀攀爀 漀昀 愀渀 栀漀甀爀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 礀漀甀 挀攀愀猀攀 戀漀椀氀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 琀愀欀攀 椀琀 昀爀漀洀  ഊthe fire, put to it a little spoonful of cleansed and sliced Ginger; ਀愀渀搀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 栀愀氀昀 愀猀 洀甀挀栀 漀昀 琀栀攀 琀栀椀渀 礀攀氀氀漀眀 爀椀渀搀 漀昀 伀爀愀渀最攀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀  ഊare even ready to take it from the fire, so as the Orange boil only ਀漀渀攀 眀愀氀洀 椀渀 椀琀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 瀀漀甀爀 椀琀 椀渀琀漀 愀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ最氀愀猀攀搀 猀琀爀漀渀最 搀攀攀瀀 最爀攀愀琀  ഊGally-pot, and let it stand so, till it be almost cold, that it be ਀猀挀愀爀挀攀 䰀甀欀攀ⴀ眀愀爀洀⸀ 吀栀攀渀 瀀甀琀 琀漀 椀琀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀ⴀ猀瀀漀漀渀昀甀氀 漀昀 瀀甀爀攀 䄀氀攀ⴀ ഊyest, and work it together with a Ladle to make it ferment: as soon ਀愀猀 椀琀 戀攀最椀渀渀攀琀栀 琀漀 搀漀 猀漀Ⰰ 挀漀瘀攀爀 椀琀 挀氀漀猀攀 眀椀琀栀 愀 昀椀琀 挀漀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 愀 琀栀椀挀欀 搀甀戀戀氀攀搀 眀漀漀氀氀攀渀 挀氀漀琀栀 愀戀漀甀琀 椀琀⸀ 䌀愀猀琀 愀氀氀 琀栀椀渀最猀 猀漀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀椀猀 洀愀礀 戀攀 搀漀渀攀 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 愀爀攀 最漀椀渀最 琀漀 戀攀搀⸀ 一攀砀琀 洀漀爀渀椀渀最 眀栀攀渀 礀漀甀 爀椀猀攀Ⰰ 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀 昀椀渀搀 琀栀攀 戀愀爀洀 最愀琀栀攀爀攀搀 愀氀氀 琀漀最攀琀栀攀爀 椀渀 琀栀攀 洀椀搀搀氀攀㬀 猀挀甀洀 椀琀 挀氀攀愀渀 漀昀昀 眀椀琀栀 愀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀ⴀ猀瀀漀漀渀 愀渀搀 愀 昀攀愀琀栀攀爀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀漀琀琀氀攀 甀瀀 琀栀攀 䰀椀焀甀漀爀Ⰰ 猀琀漀瀀瀀椀渀最 椀琀 瘀攀爀礀 挀氀漀猀攀⸀ 䤀琀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 爀攀愀搀礀 琀漀  ഊdrink in two or three days; but it will keep well a month or two. It ਀眀椀氀氀 戀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀猀琀 瘀攀爀礀 焀甀椀挀欀 愀渀搀 瀀氀攀愀猀愀渀琀⸀ഊ ਀䴀椀渀攀 眀愀猀 愀最攀搀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀 ㄀  搀愀礀猀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䘀漀爀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 琀栀愀琀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 琀栀攀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀 昀漀爀 昀攀愀猀琀猀 漀爀 漀琀栀攀爀 氀愀爀最攀ഊ> groups, what's the most favorite ratio for adding water back to ਀㸀 琀栀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀猀㼀ഊ ਀吀栀愀琀 椀猀 搀攀昀椀渀愀琀攀氀礀 愀 洀愀琀琀攀爀 漀昀 琀愀猀琀攀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 椀渀琀攀渀猀椀琀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀礀爀甀瀀⸀ഊIt also depends on how the drink is to be used. If it is to be cold ਀愀渀搀 爀攀昀爀攀猀栀椀渀最Ⰰ 氀椀欀攀 昀漀爀 搀爀椀渀欀椀渀最 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀 栀漀琀 琀漀甀爀渀攀礀 昀椀攀氀搀Ⰰ 礀漀甀ഊmight prefer it be weaker but maybe stronger when drunk with ਀愀 洀攀愀氀⸀ഊ ਀㸀 䐀漀攀猀 愀渀礀漀渀攀 攀氀猀攀 氀椀欀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 欀椀渀搀猀 漀昀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀㼀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 琀爀礀椀渀最 琀漀 瀀甀猀栀 渀漀渀ⴀ愀氀挀漀栀漀氀椀挀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀 搀爀椀渀欀猀 栀攀爀攀 愀渀搀 最攀琀ഊpeople away from iced tea, powdered lemonade and sodas. ਀ഊCoffee, however, is sacred. ਀ഊ> Rose ਀䜀甀渀琀栀愀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:26:29 -0600 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 䴀椀挀栀愀攀氀 䜀甀渀琀攀爀 㰀挀漀甀渀琀最甀渀琀栀愀爀 愀琀 栀漀琀洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Hot drinks ਀吀漀㨀 䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀 㰀猀挀愀ⴀ挀漀漀欀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀愀渀猀琀攀漀爀爀愀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀㸀 ⠀愀猀 愀渀 愀猀椀搀攀Ⰰ 眀攀 猀攀爀瘀攀 挀漀昀昀攀攀 愀渀搀 琀攀愀 愀琀 氀漀挀愀氀Ⰰ 椀渀搀漀漀爀 攀瘀攀渀琀猀 栀攀爀攀ⴀⴀ ഊ> the majority of our barony's events take place during really colder ਀㸀 洀漀渀琀栀猀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀琀✀猀 愀 欀椀渀搀渀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 愀 挀漀甀爀琀攀猀礀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 栀漀琀 戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀  ഊ> available. And it helps keep the non-cooks out of the kitchen....)> ਀㸀 ⴀⴀ䴀愀椀爀攀ഊ ਀匀礀爀甀瀀 漀昀 䄀瀀瀀氀攀猀ഊ ਀吀愀欀攀 愀 爀愀琀氀 漀昀 猀眀攀攀琀 愀瀀瀀氀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 挀愀氀氀 猀愀爀㼀樀  ഊ[this might mean "little lamps"], cook them in water to cover until ਀琀栀攀礀 昀愀氀氀 愀瀀愀爀琀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀椀爀猀甀戀猀琀愀渀挀攀 挀漀洀攀猀 漀甀琀Ⰰ 琀栀攀渀 挀氀愀爀椀昀礀 椀琀 愀渀搀  ഊtake the clear part and add it to a ratl of sugar. The bag: an ?qiya ਀漀昀 愀氀漀攀 猀琀攀洀猀Ⰰ 瀀漀甀渀搀攀搀 愀渀搀 瀀甀琀 椀渀琀漀 琀栀攀 戀愀最⸀ 䌀漀漀欀 甀渀琀椀氀 椀琀 琀愀欀攀猀 琀栀攀  ഊform of a syrup. Drink an ?qiya in two of hot water. Its benefits: it ਀昀漀爀琀椀昀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 最氀愀搀搀攀渀猀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀爀琀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀椀猀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 琀椀洀攀猀 愀渀搀 椀琀✀猀 眀漀渀搀攀爀昀甀氀 漀渀 愀 挀漀氀搀 搀愀礀⸀ഊAlthough I do cheat and use tea bags instead of a bag of pounded ਀愀氀漀攀 猀琀攀洀猀 琀漀 瀀爀漀瘀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 戀椀琀琀攀爀渀攀猀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀攀爀椀漀搀 氀攀洀漀渀愀搀攀 眀愀猀 愀氀猀漀 猀攀爀瘀攀搀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 栀漀琀 漀爀 挀漀氀搀⸀ 䴀愀欀攀 愀 猀礀爀甀瀀ഊof equal parts syrup and lemon juice. Add water to taste. ਀ഊEven without tea or coffee, people considered a hot drink a good ਀琀栀椀渀最 椀渀 挀漀氀搀 眀攀愀琀栀攀爀⸀  䤀 欀渀漀眀 愀氀攀猀 眀攀爀攀 栀攀愀琀攀搀 愀渀搀 䤀 眀漀渀搀攀爀ഊif the Norse heated mead or anything in winter? ਀ഊGunthar ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ戀攀瘀攀爀愀最攀猀ⴀ一䄀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 㐀㐀 漀昀 㐀㐀ഊ ਊ