bowstrings-msg - 7/3/11 Medieval bowstrings. Making bowstrings. NOTE: See also the files: bow-making-msg, arrows-msg, crossbows-msg, arch-supplies-msg, quivers-msg, p-archery-msg Crossbow-Care-art, merch-archery-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:18:50 -0400 From: "Nick Sasso (fra niccolo)" To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: tablet woven bowstring? > Has anyone heard of using tablet weaving for a bowstring? > > I thought it was a somewhat interesting concept and I thought I would > share it with the list. > > Ailene ingen Aedain > Shire of Shadowdale, Calontir I have in my possession a board with sundry masterfully placed nails (I hope so for the cost) used to make a 'Flemish twisted' bowstring. It involves laying out (weaving it around the nails) the string on the board and cutting it at the appropriate length. Thereafter, it is twisted and sort of braided to get a closed loop at either end and a spitaled length. It is quite period as you noted above, and takes no mean skill to pull off. niccolo Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:00:41 -0400 From: "Nick Sasso (fra niccolo)" To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: tablet woven bowstring? mtech at cybertours.com wrote: > >> I have in my possession a board with sundry masterfully placed nails (I > > hope so for the cost) used to make a 'Flemish twisted' bowstring. It > > involves laying out (weaving it around the nails) the string on the > > board and cutting it at the appropriate length. Thereafter, it is > > twisted and sort of braided to get a closed loop at either end and a > > spitaled length. It is quite period as you noted above, and takes no > > mean skill to pull off. > > > > niccolo > > Could you describe it in more detail or tell us where you acquired this > wonderous device :^) > > Ken Well, I acquired it from 'Dreamstorm Archery", Michael Twadell proprietor---(205)837-6574. He is a masterful bower and archer from Meridies who lives in Alabama. He sells handcrafted bows, arrows and accessories for traditional archery, and teaches the skills needed to use and care for them: a merchant with a generous heart. He has won several state archery open shoots with a lemonwood (I believe) bow he made from his own hand, ditto the arrows. He teaches the technique as well as selling the strings and boards. The device is simply a 1"x6" board. it has a row of nails running up the center from the bottom to about 8 inches. Then, there is a series of paired smaller, headless nails up to the top. I will post a better plan or even a graphic layout tomorrow. I'll get it out and put the plan out there. The board simply lays out the lengths and counted strands of the string. Once you have cut it, it is the beginning of the work. You need the jig to get started, though. I believe he sells them for around $10 or so.....reasonable for a hard to find item. The true skill is in knowing the procedure to twist them. I cannot hope to describe the technique here as it took me several sessions of watching to figure it out for my own lefthanded brain :o) Michael used to sell a video that describes the whole process as well. Feel free to mention me if you call him. I told him I would spread his wares as far and wide as I could. He is a kind and generous man who is happy to teach what he knows. Which also includes "tuning" your equipment for precision shooting. fra niccolo difrancesco Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:24:25 -0700 From: Robert Schweitzer To: sca-arts at raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: TW bowstring > >I have in my possession a board with sundry masterfully placed nails (I > >hope so for the cost) used to make a 'Flemish twisted' bowstring. It > >involves laying out (weaving it around the nails) the string on the > >board and cutting it at the appropriate length. > > Where did you (can I) find such a board? > > Franz The "jig" to make a flemish bowstring is really just a piece of wood with a series of nails spaced so as to get a tapered end to the string (so all of the ends don't terminate at the same place). Although you can also have more complex variations which can be adjusted to different string lengths etc. It isn't a very difficult task to learn (if you have someone to demonstrate) the strings are twisted one direction and then combined with other groups of strings by twisting them in the opposite direction. The opposing twists lock the threads together. By the way, as a tablet weaver and an archer, it is extremely unlikely that a bowstring would be tabletwoven - it could work, but it's unlikely due to the amount of time making such a string would require. A flemish twist string could be made in an hour; a tablet woven string would take a day to weave. The tablet-woven string would also be heavier (due to the additional weft thread) and decrease the cast of the bow (lower transference of energy). This is why thinner strings are used for greater cast. The reason why thinner strings are said to require greater skill, is that they are more susceptible to being "plucked", pulled sideways by flaws in the archers technique and consequently affecting the flight of the arrow. Heavier strings have more momentum, and being thicker are easier for the archer to handle/control. Rufus of Stamford. To: scanewcomers at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: If you are interested in Archery Posted by: "Gavin Kinkade" gavin.kinkade at yahoo.com gavin.kinkade Date: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:25 am ((PDT)) Bow strings that come untied are typically a result of not enough wax on the string/fibers. However some are just made wrong or improperly. Not having seen them in action I cannot tell you why it came untied. A spare string is always a good idea anyway. 3 Rivers Archery makes good string, as do some local scadians. You can also try NorthStar Archery, I have both bow strings and crossbow strings from them and they are top-notch. You can find the websites via Google. Lord Gavin Kyncade Marcaster Archery and Thrown weapons Ranger Squire to Sir Takamatsu Apprentice to Maitresse Aspasia Moonwind Cadet to Don Tomas Mac Coran Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:05:17 -0400 (EDT) From: sigrune at aol.com To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] flemish tied bowstrings <<< I've seen this several times before, but what does "flemish tied bowstring" indicate? How are other bowstrings tied? I seem to remember this term being used for both crossbows and longbows. Stefan >>> A flemish bowestring is one that has a loop set into the end instead of being tied into a powers knot. A more modern interpretation is that a flemish bowstring is a twisted strand bowstring as opposed to some of the more modern ones that are almost braided construction at the ends, and lots of loose little strands until you get to the serving. (The tight coil of fiber that protects the string at the knock/drawpoints) -Takeda Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 15:24:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara Miller To: atlantia at atlantia.sca.org Subject: Re: [MR] flemish tied bowstrings The biggest difference between a Flemish string and a modern string is how the loops are made. Modern strings are endless loops, one string that is looped multiple times make the string, that are then wrapped on the ends to make the loops. A Flemish string is made up of multiple strands that are looped and twisted together on the ends. In terms of use, they work exactly the same. It isn't advised to take a Flemish string off of the bow that it is put on because it relies on keeping a little bit of pressure and will untwist if taken off the bow. Bubba From: loreleielkins at aol.com Subject: Flemish Tied Bowstring Date: June 16, 2011 8:55:02 PM CDT To: StefanliRous at austin.rr.com The previous answer you received on the Merry Rose about a "Flemish tied bowstring" was not as clear as it could be. The basic types of bow strings commonly in use are the endless loop and the Flemish twist or just Flemish bowstring. The endless loop string is kind of what it sounds like, 13 to 16 strands which are wrapped around and around. When the serving is done (string tied snugly at each end to seal off the loops) you can slip either end of these loops over the end of your bow. There are advantages to using an endless loop, although it isn't as period as a Flemish string. The Flemish string is one made where the strands are twisted together like one would make cordage (twist, wrap, twist, wrap...). Sometimes loops are made by splicing the string back into itself, or one loop is made for the bottom and on the top, the string is tied onto the bow using a Bowyers Knot. It is the only knot allowed in archery for tying a string to a bow, also called the timber hitch. The Honorable Lady Lorelei Greenleafe Deputy Earl Marshal for Target Archery, Atlantia Edited by Mark S. Harris bowstrings-msg Page 5 of 6