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Period game animals. Elk, deer, boar.


NOTE: See also the files: fowls-a-birds-msg, hunting-msg, fishing-msg, butchering-msg, venison-msg, falconry-msg, Ferrets-Hunt-art, rabbits-msg.





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From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>

To: "'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

Subject: RE: Mooses [was Re: [Sca-cooks] Regretable foods.... OOP]

Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:20:54 -0500


> Moose are native to Northern Europe and Scandanavia as well, and probably

> could be considered period game (although they may have just called them

> "deer"). Jellied moose nose is probably not period, though. ;-)


> Margaret, who is really bored this morning and thus looking up mooses


The original range extended quite a bit further East than Scandinavia and

Northern Europe into Asia.  Alces alces is the Eurasian species and it was

period game.  Alces americana in the North American moose.


Rather than "deer," the European term is "elk." In the New World, "elk"

became associated with the wapiti (Cervus canadensis).


Rather than "jellied moose nose," think "elk delicacies in aspic."





To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org

Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:26:56 -0400

From: Elizabeth A Heckert <spynnere at juno.com>

Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: [Sca-cooks]Aurochs was: Regretable foods.... OOP]


>Philip & Susan Troy wrote: snipped .....................


> example, the Sutton Hoo Ship Burial has some drinking horns taken

>from the aurochs, which is believed to have been extinct (and may have

>been)   by the approximate time of the burial (7th-8th C. C.E.?)


    I realize England is not Poland, and there may be some traveling

issues involved, but a long time ago I read that the last aurochs were

kept and finally killed in hunting preserves of Polish royalty in the

earl 1600s.


    Is this true, or has it been disproven???





From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>

To: "'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

Subject: RE: Mooses [was Re: [Sca-cooks] Regretable foods.... OOP]

Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:14:31 -0500


Taxonomically, the family is Cervidea or "deer" family. "Elk" is a generic

word used to describe several of the largest members of the family,

primarily Alces alces in Europe and Cervus canadensis in North America.

Irish elk, for example, are a large extint deer of genus Megaceros,

demonstrating that at least three distinct genera have been referred to as

"elk."  "Moose" is a generic word for Alces americana.


The North American elk or wapiti has no equal sized counterpart in Europe.


Also included in the Cervidea are the reindeer and the caribou which can

taxonomically be lumped into Rangifer tarandus (or split out by sub-species

distinctions).  The term reindeer can be applied to both, but in common

usage refers to the Eurasian R. tarandus which has been domesticated as

opposed to the North American caribou which has not been domesticated.





From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>

To: "'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>

Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] Re: [Sca-cooks]Aurochs was: Regretable foods....


Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:29:39 -0500


"Aurochs" has been used to refer to both the urus (Bos primigenius) and the

wisent (Bison bonasus).


IIRC, the urus, a large, wild ox, was believed extinct by the 5th Century.

The wisent is rare, but can still be found.  It is a smaller version of the

North American bison.




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