pouches-msg - 11/16/08 ਀ഊPeriod pouches, purses and bags. ਀ഊNOTE: See also the files: belts-msg, chasity-belts-msg, gloves-msg, p-backpacks-msg, rope-msg, basketweaving-msg, coopering-msg, leather-msg, lea-bladders-msg, lea-tanning-msg. ਀ഊ************************************************************************ ਀一伀吀䤀䌀䔀 ⴀഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 愀 挀漀洀洀漀渀 琀栀攀洀攀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 洀礀 爀攀愀搀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 瘀愀爀椀漀甀猀 挀漀洀瀀甀琀攀爀 渀攀琀眀漀爀欀猀⸀ 匀漀洀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 搀愀琀攀 戀愀挀欀 琀漀 ㄀㤀㠀㤀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 洀愀礀 戀攀 愀猀 爀攀挀攀渀琀 愀猀 礀攀猀琀攀爀搀愀礀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀椀猀 昀椀氀攀 椀猀 瀀愀爀琀 漀昀 愀 挀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 昀椀氀攀猀 挀愀氀氀攀搀 匀琀攀昀愀渀✀猀 䘀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀ 吀栀攀猀攀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀爀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 漀渀 琀栀攀 䤀渀琀攀爀渀攀琀 愀琀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀漀渀攀 愀 氀椀洀椀琀攀搀 愀洀漀甀渀琀 漀昀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最⸀ 䴀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 栀愀瘀椀渀最 琀漀 搀漀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瀀愀爀愀琀攀 琀漀瀀椀挀猀 眀攀爀攀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 猀瀀氀椀琀 椀渀琀漀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀 昀椀氀攀猀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 攀砀琀爀愀渀攀漀甀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀⸀ 䘀漀爀 椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 䤀䐀猀 眀攀爀攀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀搀 琀漀 猀愀瘀攀 猀瀀愀挀攀 愀渀搀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀 挀氀甀琀琀攀爀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 挀漀洀洀攀渀琀猀 洀愀搀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 愀爀攀 渀漀琀 渀攀挀攀猀猀愀爀椀氀礀 洀礀 瘀椀攀眀瀀漀椀渀琀猀⸀ 䤀 洀愀欀攀 渀漀 挀氀愀椀洀猀 愀猀 琀漀 琀栀攀 愀挀挀甀爀愀挀礀 漀昀 琀栀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 最椀瘀攀渀 戀礀 琀栀攀 椀渀搀椀瘀椀搀甀愀氀 愀甀琀栀漀爀猀⸀ഊ ਀倀氀攀愀猀攀 爀攀猀瀀攀挀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀 愀渀搀 攀昀昀漀爀琀猀 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 眀栀漀 栀愀瘀攀 眀爀椀琀琀攀渀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 挀漀瀀礀爀椀最栀琀 猀琀愀琀甀猀 漀昀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀 椀猀 甀渀挀氀攀愀爀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀 琀椀洀攀⸀ 䤀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀猀 瀀甀戀氀椀猀栀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀猀攀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀猀Ⰰ 瀀氀攀愀猀攀 最椀瘀攀 挀爀攀搀椀琀 琀漀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀琀漀爀⠀猀⤀⸀ഊ ਀吀栀愀渀欀 礀漀甀Ⰰഊ Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous ਀                                          匀琀攀昀愀渀 愀琀 昀氀漀爀椀氀攀最椀甀洀⸀漀爀最ഊ************************************************************************ ਀ഊFrom: ben at hrofi.demon.co.uk ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Viking and Anglo-Saxon Belt Pouches ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㄀ 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 ㄀㠀㨀㄀㠀㨀㈀㄀ 䜀䴀吀ഊ ਀䴀愀渀礀 嘀椀欀椀渀最⼀䄀渀最氀漀ⴀ匀愀砀漀渀 爀攀ⴀ攀渀愀挀琀漀爀猀 眀攀愀爀 戀攀氀琀ⴀ瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 眀攀爀攀 琀栀攀礀ഊwidely used at the time? If we look at what they are used for on a ਀㈀　琀栀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀礀 䰀椀瘀椀渀最 䠀椀猀琀漀爀礀 匀椀琀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 洀愀椀渀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 ㈀　琀栀ഊcentury articles, namely wallets/purses, car keys, cigarettes, ਀氀椀最栀琀攀爀猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀ 伀爀椀最椀渀愀氀氀礀 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 洀愀礀 栀愀瘀攀 栀愀搀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀椀渀最 洀漀渀攀礀ഊin the form of silver coinage, but surely this would be something only ਀挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 眀栀攀渀 愀 瀀攀爀猀漀渀 眀愀猀 最漀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀瀀氀愀挀攀 琀漀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 猀瀀攀渀搀 椀琀Ⰰ 渀漀琀ഊsomething worn as an everyday item. So what would the everyday Saxon, ਀漀爀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 渀攀攀搀 愀 戀攀氀琀ⴀ瀀漀甀挀栀 昀漀爀㼀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀 愀 最攀渀攀爀愀氀 瀀漀椀渀琀 漀昀 瘀椀攀眀 䤀 搀漀 渀漀琀 欀渀漀眀 漀昀 洀甀挀栀 攀瘀椀搀攀渀挀攀 昀漀爀ഊpouches. It makes no sense for a warrior to have a pouch on a belt in ਀挀漀洀戀愀琀 愀猀 椀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 昀愀爀 琀漀 攀愀猀礀 琀漀 氀漀猀攀 椀琀 漀渀 琀栀攀 昀椀攀氀搀⸀  匀甀爀攀氀礀 椀昀ഊpouches were in existence they would be worn underneath the main ਀琀甀渀椀挀Ⰰ 漀甀琀 漀昀 栀愀爀洀猀 眀愀礀⸀ 吀栀椀猀 愀爀最甀洀攀渀琀 洀椀最栀琀 愀氀猀漀 最漀 昀漀爀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊaverage person in a town, too. There you may not lose it to an ਀愀挀挀椀搀攀渀琀愀氀 挀甀琀 漀昀 愀 眀攀愀瀀漀渀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀漀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 椀渀 漀瀀攀渀 瘀椀攀眀 眀漀甀氀搀ഊsurely be a target for a thief. ਀ഊFurther to the above paragraphs, and going on the assumptions that ਀瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 搀椀搀 愀挀琀甀愀氀氀礀 攀砀椀猀琀Ⰰ 眀栀愀琀 昀漀爀洀猀 漀昀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 攀砀椀猀琀攀搀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀ഊtime. Are we relying on middle age or continental ideas for the ਀猀栀愀瀀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀㼀   圀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀ഊdrawstring bags, or were the more like a medieval purse with lid and ਀猀甀猀瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀 氀漀漀瀀猀㼀ഊ ਀䤀 氀漀漀欀 昀漀爀眀愀爀搀 琀漀 栀攀愀爀椀渀 昀爀漀洀 礀漀甀⸀ഊBen Levick ਀ഊ ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 渀焀昀㈀㌀㄀㈀ 愀琀 椀猀㈀⸀渀礀甀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀一漀爀洀愀渀 䨀⸀ 䘀椀渀欀攀氀猀栀琀攀礀渀⤀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 愀渀搀 䄀渀最氀漀ⴀ匀愀砀漀渀 䈀攀氀琀 倀漀甀挀栀攀猀ഊDate: 23 Feb 1996 01:05:51 GMT ਀伀爀最愀渀椀稀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 一攀眀 夀漀爀欀 唀渀椀瘀攀爀猀椀琀礀ഊ ਀戀攀渀 愀琀 栀爀漀昀椀⸀搀攀洀漀渀⸀挀漀⸀甀欀 眀爀漀琀攀㨀ഊ: Many Viking/Anglo-Saxon re-enactors wear belt-pouches, but were they ਀㨀 眀椀搀攀氀礀 甀猀攀搀 愀琀 琀栀攀 琀椀洀攀㼀  䤀昀 眀攀 氀漀漀欀 愀琀 眀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 愀爀攀 甀猀攀搀 昀漀爀 漀渀 愀ഊ: 20th Century Living History Site, they are mainly used for 20th ਀㨀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀猀Ⰰ 渀愀洀攀氀礀 眀愀氀氀攀琀猀⼀瀀甀爀猀攀猀Ⰰ 挀愀爀 欀攀礀猀Ⰰ 挀椀最愀爀攀琀琀攀猀Ⰰഊ: lighters, etc. Originally people may have had pouches containing money ਀㨀 椀渀 琀栀攀 昀漀爀洀 漀昀 猀椀氀瘀攀爀 挀漀椀渀愀最攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 猀甀爀攀氀礀 琀栀椀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 漀渀氀礀ഊ: carried when a person was going someplace to actually spend it, not ਀㨀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 眀漀爀渀 愀猀 愀渀 攀瘀攀爀礀搀愀礀 椀琀攀洀⸀ 匀漀 眀栀愀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 琀栀攀 攀瘀攀爀礀搀愀礀 匀愀砀漀渀Ⰰഊ: or Viking need a belt-pouch for? ਀ഊPouches, suspended from the belt are widely seen in medieval art. In ਀昀愀挀琀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 猀愀礀 琀栀攀 挀漀猀琀甀洀攀 椀猀 椀渀挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 愀 瀀漀甀挀栀⸀ഊA pouch (or purse) was found with the Sutton Hoo ship burial. Saxon? ਀吀栀攀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 搀椀猀瀀氀愀礀 昀漀爀 琀栀愀琀 戀甀爀椀愀氀Ⰰ 愀琀 琀栀攀 䈀爀椀琀琀椀猀栀 洀甀猀攀甀洀 栀愀搀 愀渀 ഊillustration of how the ਀眀愀爀爀椀漀爀 眀漀甀氀搀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀洀戀椀渀攀搀 琀栀攀 椀琀攀洀猀⸀ 吀栀攀礀 猀栀漀眀 琀栀攀 瀀甀爀猀攀 眀漀爀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 ഊoutside, over the mail - similar to the later medieval and reenactor fashion. ਀ഊThe Russian tale of how Svietogor met Ilia Muromets has Svietogor putting ਀䤀氀椀愀 椀渀琀漀 栀椀猀 ∀瀀漀挀欀攀琀∀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 琀栀攀 昀漀漀琀渀漀琀攀猀 攀砀瀀氀愀椀渀 椀猀 ∀愀 瀀漀甀挀栀 眀漀爀渀 愀琀 ഊthe belt" (Svietogor does not get off the horse or undo his mail - and, ਀猀椀渀挀攀 琀栀攀 瀀攀爀椀漀搀✀猀 洀愀椀氀 眀愀猀 欀渀攀攀 氀攀渀最琀栀Ⰰ 猀瀀氀椀琀 昀漀爀 爀椀搀椀渀最Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀愀猀 瀀甀琀 漀渀 ഊover the head, he would have had to do so if the belt and puch were ਀甀渀搀攀爀渀攀愀琀栀⸀ഊ(this is at a time when Russ still meant Viking) ਀ഊHope this helped. ਀一愀栀甀洀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: priest at vassar.edu (Carolyn Priest-Dorman) ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: Viking and Anglo-Saxon Belt Pouches ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 ㈀㔀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀 　　㨀㔀㔀㨀㔀㐀 䜀䴀吀ഊOrganization: Vassar College ਀ഊGreeting from Thora Sharptooth! ਀ഊBen Levick (ben at hrofi.demon.co.uk) asked about Viking/Anglo-Saxon ਀瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀㸀眀栀愀琀 昀漀爀洀猀 漀昀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 攀砀椀猀琀攀搀 愀琀 琀栀椀猀ഊ>time. Are we relying on middle age or continental ideas for the ਀㸀猀栀愀瀀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀漀猀攀 琀栀愀琀 眀攀 挀甀爀爀攀渀琀氀礀 栀愀瘀攀㼀   圀攀爀攀 琀栀攀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀ഊ>drawstring bags, or were the more like a medieval purse with lid and ਀㸀猀甀猀瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀 氀漀漀瀀猀㼀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 愀 氀椀琀琀氀攀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀 攀愀猀琀攀爀渀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀⸀  䘀漀甀爀 戀愀猀椀挀 ഊtypes of pouches/purses were found in the Birka graves. One is a ਀挀氀攀瘀攀爀 昀漀氀搀椀渀最 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 眀愀氀氀攀琀 眀椀琀栀 猀攀瘀攀爀愀氀 猀攀挀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  ⠀䄀 爀攀氀愀琀攀搀 琀礀瀀攀 ഊwas found in Holland; that one appears to have a strap to tie around ਀琀栀攀 昀漀氀搀攀搀 眀愀氀氀攀琀⸀⤀ 䄀渀漀琀栀攀爀 椀猀 愀 猀椀渀最氀攀ⴀ猀甀猀瀀攀渀猀椀漀渀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 瀀甀爀猀攀 眀椀琀栀 ഊmetal mounts that buckles closed. (A related type was found in ਀䨀愀洀琀氀愀渀搀⸀⤀ഊ ਀䌀漀渀琀愀挀琀 洀攀 瀀爀椀瘀愀琀攀氀礀 昀漀爀 猀漀甀爀挀攀猀⸀ഊ*********************************************************************** ਀䌀愀爀漀氀礀渀 倀爀椀攀猀琀ⴀ䐀漀爀洀愀渀ऀऀऀ吀栀漀爀愀 匀栀愀爀瀀琀漀漀琀栀ഊpriest at vassar.edu Frostahlid, Austrrik ਀           䜀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀爀攀攀 猀焀甀愀爀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀 椀渀 戀攀渀搀 伀爀ഊ*********************************************************************** ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 圀攀搀Ⰰ ㈀㠀 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㘀ഊTo: markh at risc.sps.mot.com ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 瀀爀椀攀猀琀 愀琀 瘀愀猀猀愀爀⸀攀搀甀 ⠀䌀愀爀漀氀礀渀 倀爀椀攀猀琀ⴀ䐀漀爀洀愀渀⤀ഊSubject: Pouches at Birka ਀ഊUnto Stefan, greeting from Thora! ਀ഊThe source for pouches at Birka is the following. ਀ഊ Anne-Sofie Graeslund, "Beutel und Taschen," pp. 141-154 in ਀开匀礀猀琀攀洀愀琀椀猀挀栀攀 䄀渀愀氀礀猀攀渀 搀攀爀 䜀爀愀攀戀攀爀昀甀渀搀攀开Ⰰ 攀搀⸀ 䜀爀攀琀愀 䄀爀眀椀搀猀猀漀渀⸀  ഊ Birka: Untersuchungen und Studien, II:1. Stockholm: Kungl. ਀        嘀椀琀琀攀爀栀攀琀猀 䠀椀猀琀漀爀椀攀 漀挀栀 䄀渀琀椀欀瘀椀琀攀琀猀 䄀欀愀搀攀洀椀攀渀⼀䄀氀洀焀瘀椀猀琀 ☀ 圀椀欀猀攀氀氀ഊ International, 1984. (ISBN # 91-7402-151-6.) ਀ഊThe article is in German, but there are some line drawings. This series ਀⠀∀䈀椀爀欀愀㨀  唀渀琀攀爀猀甀挀栀甀渀最攀渀 甀渀搀 匀琀甀搀椀攀渀∀⤀ 椀猀 愀 栀甀最攀 最漀氀搀洀椀渀攀 漀昀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 漀渀ഊall sorts of important Viking Age finds from Birka. (Imagine, a whole ਀挀栀愀瀀琀攀爀 樀甀猀琀 漀渀 猀瀀攀愀爀瀀漀椀渀琀猀℀⤀ഊ*********************************************************************** ਀䌀愀爀漀氀礀渀 倀爀椀攀猀琀ⴀ䐀漀爀洀愀渀ऀऀऀ吀栀漀爀愀 匀栀愀爀瀀琀漀漀琀栀ഊpriest at vassar.edu Frostahlid, Austrrik ਀           䜀甀氀攀猀Ⰰ 琀栀爀攀攀 猀焀甀愀爀攀 眀攀愀瘀攀爀✀猀 琀愀戀氀攀琀猀 椀渀 戀攀渀搀 伀爀ഊ*********************************************************************** ਀ഊ ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 䴀漀渀Ⰰ ㈀㈀ 䘀攀戀 ㄀㤀㤀㤀 ㄀㠀㨀㌀㐀㨀㐀㌀ ⴀ　㔀　　ഊFrom: Irene leNoir ਀吀漀㨀 匀䌀䄀ⴀ䄀爀琀猀 㰀匀䌀䄀ⴀ䄀刀吀匀 愀琀 唀䬀䄀一匀⸀䔀䐀唀㸀ഊSubject: Looking for Pouch Sources ਀ഊWhile my local library really isn't up to any serious research, they do ਀最椀瘀攀 洀攀 愀挀挀攀猀 琀漀 椀渀琀攀爀ⴀ氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 氀漀愀渀⸀  吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 栀椀琀挀栀 眀椀琀栀 䤀䰀䰀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀ഊhave to know what you are looking for. I'm hoping that some of you may ਀戀攀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 瀀漀椀渀琀 洀攀 椀渀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 搀椀爀攀挀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ ਀䤀✀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀猀 漀昀 ㄀㐀琀栀 琀漀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最猀 漀爀ഊilluminatins (preferably French) that show women wearing pouches. ਀ഊI've looked through my book, photocopy, and slide collections, and I've ਀漀渀氀礀 戀攀攀渀 愀戀氀攀 琀漀 昀椀渀搀 ㌀ 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀猀㨀ഊ ਀㄀㤀㤀㔀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 圀漀洀愀渀 䌀愀氀攀渀搀愀爀 ⴀ 一漀瘀攀洀戀攀爀ഊ Attending a Birth (detail ਀  䈀椀爀琀栀 漀昀 䴀愀爀礀 ⴀ 圀攀椀渀最愀爀琀渀攀爀 䄀氀琀愀爀ഊ Hans Holbein the Elder ਀  䜀攀爀洀愀渀 ㄀㐀㤀㌀ഊ Augsburg Cathedral ਀ⴀ 吀栀攀 眀漀洀愀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 氀攀昀琀 眀攀愀爀猀 愀 猀洀愀氀氀 瀀愀氀攀 瀀椀渀欀 瀀漀甀挀栀 猀甀猀瀀攀渀搀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 栀攀爀ഊbelt (next to a chatelaine that holds several keys). The pouch appears ਀琀漀 戀攀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 瀀漀椀渀琀猀 漀昀 昀愀戀爀椀挀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 挀愀渀✀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 琀攀氀氀 戀攀挀愀甀猀攀ഊthe image is so small ਀ഊ1998 Medieval Woman Calendar - August ਀  倀攀愀猀愀渀琀猀 䠀甀渀琀椀渀最 刀愀戀戀椀琀猀 圀椀琀栀 䘀攀爀爀攀琀猀 ⠀搀攀琀愀椀氀⤀ഊ Tapestry, Franco-Burgundian, c. 1450-75 ਀  䜀氀愀猀最漀眀 䴀甀猀攀甀洀猀㨀 吀栀攀 䈀甀爀爀攀氀氀 䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀ഊ- The woman on the top right wears a pouch over her underdress but under ਀栀攀爀 漀瘀攀爀搀爀攀猀猀⸀  䤀琀 椀猀 戀攀椀最攀 愀渀搀 椀猀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀愀渀 漀爀 最漀氀搀攀渀 琀漀渀攀搀ഊbeads. It has separate hanging and gathering strings. ਀ഊFrench Painting: From Fouquet to Poussin ਀  瀀愀最攀 㐀㠀ഊ Les Heures d'Etienne Chevalier, c 1450 ਀  琀栀攀 嘀椀猀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀ഊ Musee Conde, Chantilly, France ਀ⴀ 吀栀攀 眀漀洀愀渀 漀渀 琀栀攀 爀椀最栀琀 眀攀愀爀猀 愀 爀漀猀攀 瀀椀渀欀 瀀漀甀挀栀 漀瘀攀爀 栀攀爀 甀渀搀攀爀搀爀攀猀猀 戀甀琀ഊunder her overdress. I can't see much about the construction of the ਀瀀漀甀挀栀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 琀栀愀琀 愀 猀攀愀洀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀 琀漀 戀攀 搀攀挀漀爀愀琀攀搀 眀椀琀栀 攀椀琀栀攀爀 戀攀愀搀猀 漀爀ഊa cord. ਀ഊIf you know of any other examples, please send me the publication ਀椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 琀栀愀琀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 琀栀攀洀⸀  倀氀攀愀猀攀 愀氀猀漀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 愀 瀀愀最攀ഊor plate number and/or description so that I know where to look ਀ഊJessica Clark ਀匀䌀䄀㨀 䤀爀攀渀攀 氀攀一漀椀爀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:55:53 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀刀漀眀攀渀愀∀ 㰀爀漀眀攀渀愀 愀琀 琀攀氀攀渀攀琀⸀渀攀琀㸀ഊTo: ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 䰀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 倀漀甀挀栀 匀漀甀爀挀攀猀ഊ ਀㸀䤀✀洀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 昀漀爀 瀀栀漀琀漀最爀愀瀀栀猀 漀昀 ㄀㐀琀栀 琀漀 ㄀㔀琀栀 挀攀渀琀甀爀礀 瀀愀椀渀琀椀渀最猀 漀爀ഊ>illuminatins (preferably French) that show women wearing pouches. ਀ഊ>Jessica Clark ਀ഊFrom A Visual History of Costume, The 14th & 15th Centuries: ਀⨀䄀渀 攀昀昀椀最礀 漀昀 䰀愀搀礀 䜀漀戀愀爀搀Ⰰ 挀㄀㌀㈀㔀ⴀ㌀　Ⰰ 眀攀愀爀猀 眀栀愀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀漀 戀攀 愀 搀爀椀渀欀椀渀最 栀漀爀渀ഊhung on a strap. IT's a horn, and it is hollowed out. ਀⨀䄀渀 椀氀氀甀洀椀渀愀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 瀀攀愀猀愀渀琀 眀漀洀攀渀Ⰰ 挀㄀㌀㌀㔀ⴀ㐀　 Ⰰ 搀漀渀攀 戀礀 愀渀 愀渀漀渀⸀ 䔀愀猀琀 䄀渀最氀椀愀渀ഊilluminator, shows one with a pouch hung off a belt ਀⨀䄀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 愀 洀愀氀攀 昀椀最甀爀攀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 倀攀爀挀礀 吀漀洀戀Ⰰ 挀㄀㌀㐀　Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 渀漀琀攀㨀ഊ Accessories: A purse with a dagger thrust through it is worn at the ਀昀爀漀渀琀 攀砀愀挀琀氀礀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 䠀攀渀爀礀 䬀渀椀最栀琀漀渀 猀愀椀搀 搀椀猀猀漀氀甀琀攀             眀漀洀攀渀 眀漀爀攀ഊthem when they appeared at tournaments in 1348, dressed in men's clothes. ਀⨀䄀 瀀椀挀琀甀爀攀 漀昀 䌀愀琀栀爀椀渀攀 漀昀 䌀氀攀瘀攀猀 搀椀猀琀爀椀戀甀琀椀渀最 愀氀洀猀Ⰰ 挀㄀㐀㌀　Ⰰ 眀栀攀爀攀 猀栀攀 栀愀猀ഊwhat looks like a dagger suspended from her belt, but it could be anything, ਀愀渀搀 栀愀猀 漀渀攀 栀愀渀搀 漀渀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 攀氀猀攀 猀甀猀瀀攀渀搀攀搀 昀爀漀洀 愀 戀攀氀琀⸀  䤀琀 氀漀漀欀猀 氀椀欀攀 愀ഊpouch, and since whe is handing out some coins, it seems like a safe guess. ਀⨀匀琀⸀ 䴀愀爀礀 䴀愀最搀愀氀攀渀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ✀䄀氀琀愀爀瀀椀攀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 匀攀瘀攀渀 匀愀挀爀愀洀攀渀琀猀✀Ⰰ 挀㄀㐀㐀㔀Ⰰഊthe book notes Accessories: A belt with a circular clasp, and a hook from ਀眀栀椀挀栀 琀漀 栀愀渀最 愀 瀀甀爀猀攀⸀ഊ ਀刀漀眀攀渀愀ഊ ਀ഊFrom: HS Plouse ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀攀瀀琀攀洀戀攀爀 㠀Ⰰ ㈀　　㐀 ㄀㄀㨀㈀㘀㨀　　 倀䴀 䌀䐀吀ഊTo: stefan at florilegium.org ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 䈀攀氀琀 倀漀甀挀栀攀猀ഊ ਀䤀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀攀搀Ⰰ 椀渀 琀栀攀 挀漀甀爀猀攀 漀昀 爀攀猀攀愀爀挀栀椀渀最 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀猀 漀昀 椀渀琀攀爀攀猀琀Ⰰ 挀漀洀攀 愀挀爀漀猀猀 琀栀攀 焀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀 爀攀最愀爀搀椀渀最 琀栀攀 甀猀攀 漀昀 戀攀氀琀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 戀礀 攀愀爀氀礀 攀爀愀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀椀挀猀 ⠀䘀爀愀渀欀猀Ⰰ 匀愀砀漀渀猀Ⰰ 嘀椀欀椀渀最猀Ⰰ 攀琀挀⸀⤀⸀  䤀 挀愀渀 猀愀礀 愀戀猀漀氀甀琀攀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 愀氀洀漀猀琀 攀瘀攀爀礀 䴀椀最爀愀琀椀漀渀 攀爀愀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 眀漀爀攀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀攀Ⰰ 椀渀 眀栀椀挀栀 栀攀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 栀椀猀 猀琀攀攀氀 昀椀爀攀猀琀爀椀欀攀爀Ⰰ 猀漀洀攀 昀氀椀渀琀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀渀 愀猀猀漀爀琀洀攀渀琀 漀昀 琀椀渀搀攀爀⸀  匀甀挀栀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 昀漀甀渀搀 漀渀 戀漀最 戀甀爀椀愀氀 戀漀搀椀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 ㈀渀搀 琀栀爀漀甀最栀 㔀琀栀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀椀攀猀 愀渀搀 琀栀攀 甀猀愀最攀 瀀爀攀猀甀洀愀戀氀礀 挀漀渀琀椀渀甀攀搀⸀  䄀 最爀攀愀琀 洀愀渀礀 爀攀挀漀渀猀琀爀甀挀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 攀愀爀氀礀 䜀攀爀洀愀渀椀挀猀 猀栀漀眀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀猀琀爀椀欀攀爀 猀甀猀瀀攀渀搀攀搀 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀攀氀琀 愀渀搀 猀漀洀攀 嘀椀欀椀渀最 攀爀愀 漀渀攀猀 挀攀爀琀愀椀渀氀礀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀 搀攀猀椀最渀攀搀 昀漀爀 猀甀挀栀 愀琀琀愀挀栀洀攀渀琀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 椀琀 椀猀 愀渀 攀愀猀礀 眀愀礀 琀漀 氀漀猀攀 愀 挀爀椀琀椀挀愀氀 愀爀琀椀挀氀攀 愀渀搀 椀琀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 氀椀欀攀氀礀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 洀愀樀漀爀椀琀礀 眀攀爀攀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 椀渀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀 愀氀漀渀最 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 爀攀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 昀椀爀攀洀愀欀椀渀最 攀渀猀攀洀戀氀攀 ⠀椀渀搀攀攀搀Ⰰ 洀漀猀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 攀愀爀氀礀 昀椀爀攀猀琀爀椀欀攀爀 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 眀漀甀氀搀 渀漀琀 栀愀瘀攀 挀漀渀瘀攀渀椀攀渀琀氀礀 栀甀渀最 搀椀爀攀挀琀氀礀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀攀氀琀 愀渀搀 洀甀猀琀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 挀愀爀爀椀攀搀 椀渀 愀 瀀漀甀挀栀⤀⸀  䄀猀 昀愀爀 愀猀 琀栀攀 瀀漀甀挀栀 搀攀猀椀最渀 椀猀 挀漀渀挀攀爀渀攀搀Ⰰ 䤀✀洀 猀甀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀 眀愀猀 愀 眀椀搀攀 最愀洀甀琀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 搀爀愀眀猀琀爀椀渀最 搀攀猀椀最渀猀 琀漀 洀漀爀攀 洀漀搀攀爀渀 氀漀漀欀椀渀最 漀渀攀猀Ⰰ 挀漀洀瀀氀攀琀攀 眀椀琀栀 昀氀愀瀀猀 愀渀搀 戀甀挀欀氀攀猀⸀  吀栀攀 匀甀琀琀漀渀 䠀漀漀 瀀甀爀猀攀 挀漀洀攀猀 椀洀洀攀搀椀愀琀攀氀礀 琀漀 洀椀渀搀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 愀氀猀漀 猀攀攀渀 愀 氀漀瘀攀氀礀 䘀爀愀渀欀椀猀栀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀Ⰰ 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 㘀琀栀 䌀攀渀琀甀爀礀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 挀漀渀猀椀猀琀猀 漀昀 愀 ∀唀∀ 猀栀愀瀀攀搀 昀爀漀渀琀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 戀愀挀欀 猀瀀漀爀琀椀渀最 愀渀 椀渀琀攀最爀愀琀攀搀 昀氀愀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀 挀漀渀渀攀挀琀攀搀 戀礀 愀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀 洀椀搀ⴀ瀀椀攀挀攀 眀爀愀瀀瀀攀搀 愀爀漀甀渀搀 愀渀搀 猀攀眀渀Ⰰ 愀氀漀渀最 琀栀攀 昀爀漀渀琀 愀渀搀 戀愀挀欀 攀搀最攀猀Ⰰ 琀漀 琀栀攀 琀眀漀 ∀唀∀ 猀栀愀瀀攀搀 瀀椀攀挀攀猀⸀  䤀 栀愀瘀攀 猀椀渀挀攀 愀搀漀瀀琀攀搀 琀栀愀琀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 愀猀 洀礀 戀愀猀椀挀 瀀漀甀挀栀 搀攀猀椀最渀 愀渀搀 栀愀瘀攀 瀀爀漀戀愀戀氀礀 瀀爀漀搀甀挀攀搀 栀甀渀搀爀攀搀猀Ⰰ 猀椀渀挀攀 椀琀 椀猀 猀椀洀瀀氀攀 琀漀 洀愀欀攀Ⰰ 愀琀琀爀愀挀琀椀瘀攀Ⰰ 渀漀渀ⴀ戀甀氀欀礀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 礀攀琀 挀愀瀀愀挀椀漀甀猀⸀ 吀栀攀 栀椀猀琀漀爀椀挀愀氀 攀砀愀洀瀀氀攀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀攀搀 琀漀 甀猀攀 愀 猀琀爀愀瀀 愀渀搀 戀甀挀欀氀攀 挀氀漀猀甀爀攀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䤀✀瘀攀 洀愀搀攀 琀栀攀 猀琀礀氀攀 眀椀琀栀 洀甀氀琀椀瀀氀攀 猀琀礀氀攀猀 漀昀 挀氀漀猀甀爀攀猀Ⰰ 愀氀氀 漀昀 眀栀椀挀栀 眀漀爀欀 眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 最椀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀 戀愀猀椀挀 挀漀洀瀀攀琀攀渀挀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 戀愀最✀猀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀ഊ ਀䄀䰀刀䤀䌀 䜀刀䔀夀䈀䔀䄀刀䐀Ⰰ 洀欀愀 䠀⸀ 匀挀漀琀琀 倀氀漀甀猀攀  ഊ ਀ഊNewsgroups: rec.org.sca ਀匀甀戀樀攀挀琀㨀 刀攀㨀 匀䌀䄀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 倀漀甀挀栀⼀倀甀爀猀攀 儀甀攀猀琀椀漀渀ഊDate: 21 Jun 2005 07:51:18 -0700 ਀ഊ<<< I seem to be accruing teenage wards by the carload. I generally drive ਀漀甀琀 琀漀 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀漀挀愀氀 愀爀挀栀攀爀礀 爀愀渀最攀猀 愀琀 氀攀愀猀琀 漀渀挀攀 瀀攀爀 眀攀攀欀⸀  䰀愀琀攀氀礀ഊI have had a carload of teenage girls accompany me. I have plenty of ਀氀漀愀渀攀爀 戀漀眀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀礀 欀攀攀瀀 猀琀攀瀀瀀椀渀最 漀渀 愀渀搀 戀爀攀愀欀椀渀最 漀爀 猀栀漀漀琀椀渀最 洀礀ഊarrows into the woods where they can't be found. For the last 18 ਀洀漀渀琀栀猀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 戀攀攀渀 愀猀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 戀甀礀 愀爀爀漀眀猀⸀  吀栀攀猀攀 洀愀椀搀攀渀猀 爀甀渀 昀爀漀洀ഊ13 to 17 years of age and have no money, but they all have sewing ਀洀愀挀栀椀渀攀猀⸀  匀漀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 搀攀挀椀搀攀搀 琀漀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 猀攀眀椀渀最 甀瀀栀漀氀猀琀攀爀礀ഊpouches, quivers, belts, hats & etc. I have a book with plenty of ਀椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 栀愀琀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀攀攀搀 椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀椀漀渀猀 漀昀 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀⸀  䄀爀攀 琀栀攀爀攀ഊany good illustrations on the web, or is there a good reference books ਀愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀㼀ഊ ਀䨀椀洀 䬀漀挀栀 ⠀䜀氀愀搀椀甀猀 吀栀攀 䄀氀挀栀攀洀椀猀琀⤀ 㸀㸀㸀ഊ ਀吀爀礀 琀栀攀猀攀 漀渀 昀漀爀 猀椀稀攀⸀⸀⸀ഊ ਀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀洀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀搀攀猀椀最渀⸀挀漀洀⼀愀挀挀攀猀猀漀爀椀攀渀最⸀栀琀洀氀ഊ ਀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 眀椀琀栀 琀栀愀琀 欀椀渀搀 漀昀 匀攀眀椀渀最 倀漀眀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀✀搀 瀀甀琀 琀栀攀洀 琀漀 眀漀爀欀 漀渀 洀礀ഊGarb for Pennsic. ;-) ਀ഊGood luck with the sweatshop... ਀ഊMarcus ਀ഊ ਀一攀眀猀最爀漀甀瀀猀㨀 爀攀挀⸀漀爀最⸀猀挀愀ഊSubject: Re: SCA Period Pouch/Purse Question ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 刀漀戀攀爀琀 唀栀氀 㰀攀愀搀洀甀渀搀㐀㈀ 愀琀 一伀匀倀䄀䴀最洀愀椀氀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊDate: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:56:59 -0600 ਀ഊ"Jim" writes: ਀㸀 䤀 愀洀 猀甀爀瀀爀椀猀攀搀 琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀愀琀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀渀✀琀 爀攀挀攀椀瘀攀搀 洀漀爀攀 猀甀最最攀猀琀椀漀渀猀⸀  吀栀椀猀ഊ> used to be the place to get answers regarding costuming. ਀ഊUnfortunately the death of Usenet really does seem to be imminent. It's ਀愀氀氀 瘀攀爀礀 猀愀搀⸀ഊ ਀䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 挀愀渀 愀搀搀 漀渀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 爀攀挀漀洀洀攀渀搀愀琀椀漀渀㨀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 倀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 栀愀瘀攀 愀ഊpattern set dedicated to bags, purses & pouches. I've not used it, but ਀开栀愀瘀攀开 甀猀攀搀 琀栀攀椀爀 䴀攀渀✀猀 䤀琀愀氀椀愀渀 刀攀渀愀猀挀攀渀挀攀 愀渀搀 䰀愀琀攀 吀甀搀漀爀⼀䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀愀渀ഊpatterns, and have had great success with them, so I feel confident that ਀琀栀攀 瀀漀甀挀栀 ☀ 瀀甀爀猀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 最漀漀搀⸀  吀栀攀爀攀 愀爀攀 㐀㘀 搀椀昀昀攀爀攀渀琀ഊpatterns, so even if some aren't great simple probability is that there ਀愀爀攀 攀渀漀甀最栀 琀漀 戀攀 甀猀攀昀甀氀⸀ഊ ਀匀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 䤀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 氀椀欀攀 愀戀漀甀琀 倀攀爀椀漀搀 倀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀礀 椀渀挀氀甀搀攀 愀渀ഊhistorical overview of clothing in each set with lots of pictures, which ਀椀猀 甀猀攀昀甀氀 昀漀爀 最攀琀琀椀渀最 椀搀攀愀猀⸀ഊ ਀䠀攀爀攀✀猀 洀礀 爀攀瘀椀攀眀 漀昀 琀栀攀 吀甀搀漀爀⼀䔀氀椀稀愀戀攀琀栀愀渀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀猀㨀ഊ. ਀吀栀攀 漀渀氀礀 攀爀爀漀爀 椀猀 琀栀愀琀Ⰰ 漀昀 挀漀甀爀猀攀Ⰰ 琀栀攀 瀀愀琀琀攀爀渀 椀猀渀✀琀 猀瀀攀挀椀昀椀挀 琀漀 䐀攀渀瘀攀爀⸀ഊ-- ਀䜀甀琀栀氀愀挀 漀昀 䌀愀攀爀琀栀攀 㰀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀瀀甀戀氀椀挀⸀砀搀椀⸀漀爀最⼀㴀爀甀栀氀㸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 18:33:26 -0500 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 洀洀愀最渀甀猀漀氀 㰀䴀䴀愀最渀甀猀伀䰀 愀琀 渀挀⸀爀爀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [SCA-AS] Tarsolybearers? Homepage - Surprise of the day ਀吀漀㨀 ⴀ 䄀搀爀椀愀渀 䔀洀瀀椀爀攀 ⴀ 一䌀 ⴀ 匀栀椀爀攀 漀昀 䜀愀氀氀漀眀愀礀ഊ , - AncientArtifacts ਀ऀ㰀䄀渀挀椀攀渀琀愀爀琀椀昀愀挀琀猀 愀琀 礀愀栀漀漀最爀漀甀瀀猀⸀挀漀洀㸀Ⰰऀⴀ 䄀甀琀栀攀渀琀椀挀椀琀礀 䰀椀猀琀ഊ , "- BARONY of WINDMASTERS' HILL" ਀ऀ㰀欀攀攀瀀 愀琀 眀椀渀搀洀愀猀琀攀爀猀栀椀氀氀⸀漀爀最㸀Ⰰऀⴀ 䔀䬀䴀攀琀愀氀猀洀椀琀栀猀ഊ , - SCA-ARTS ਀ऀ㰀愀爀琀猀猀挀椀攀渀挀攀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀最愀氀氀漀眀最氀愀猀猀⸀漀爀最㸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀爀攀 椀猀 洀漀爀攀 琀栀愀渀 樀甀猀琀 琀栀椀猀 瀀愀最攀 漀渀 洀攀琀愀氀 瀀漀甀挀栀 氀椀搀猀⸀ഊIt is quite a site for inspiration for both ਀爀攀瀀漀甀猀猀攀 愀渀搀 氀攀愀琀栀攀爀眀漀爀欀⸀ഊ ਀䴀愀最渀甀猀ഊ ਀㰀栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀琀愀爀猀漀氀礀漀猀漀欀⸀栀甀⼀攀渀最⼀㸀ഊ ਀ഊDate: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:01:12 -0400 ਀䘀爀漀洀㨀 ∀匀愀椀渀琀 倀栀氀椀瀀∀ 㰀瀀栀氀椀瀀 愀琀 㤀㤀洀愀椀渀⸀挀漀洀㸀ഊSubject: [Sca-cooks] Fwd: Books on Bowls, Purses and Shoes from the ਀ऀ䴀椀搀搀氀攀 䄀最攀猀Ⰰ 漀渀 漀昀昀攀爀 昀爀漀洀 䐀䈀䈀䌀ഊTo: medieval-leather at yahoogroups.com, "Arts and Sciences in the SCA" ਀ऀ㰀愀爀琀猀猀挀椀攀渀挀攀猀 愀琀 氀椀猀琀猀⸀最愀氀氀漀眀最氀愀猀猀⸀漀爀最㸀Ⰰऀ∀䌀漀漀欀猀 眀椀琀栀椀渀 琀栀攀 匀䌀䄀∀ഊ , SCA-AuthenticCooks at yahoogroups.com ਀ഊI know we were discussing bowls on one of my Lists. Looks like a nice ਀猀攀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 漀昀 戀漀漀欀猀 挀漀洀椀渀最 漀甀琀⸀ഊ ਀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ 䘀漀爀眀愀爀搀攀搀 洀攀猀猀愀最攀 ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀഊFrom: ian.stevens at dbbcdist.com ਀䐀愀琀攀㨀 匀攀瀀 ㄀　Ⰰ ㈀　　㜀 ㄀㄀㨀㐀㐀 䄀䴀ഊSubject: Books on Bowls, Purses and Shoes from the Middle Ages, on ਀漀昀昀攀爀 昀爀漀洀 䐀䈀䈀䌀ഊTo: phlip at 99main.com ਀ഊDear Philippa Alderton, ਀ഊOne new and two forthcoming items that will interest medieval ਀愀爀挀栀愀攀漀氀漀最椀猀琀猀 愀渀搀 爀攀ⴀ攀渀愀挀琀漀爀猀㨀ഊ ਀䘀椀爀猀琀氀礀Ⰰ 眀攀 栀愀瘀攀 爀攀挀攀椀瘀攀搀 猀漀洀攀 挀漀瀀椀攀猀 漀昀 刀漀戀椀渀 圀漀漀搀✀猀 瘀攀爀礀ഊattractively produced history of that humblest of objects: the wooden ਀戀漀眀氀⸀ 㰀猀渀椀瀀㸀ഊ ਀伀甀爀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 戀漀漀欀Ⰰ 眀栀椀挀栀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 愀琀 琀栀攀 瘀攀爀礀 攀渀搀 漀昀 琀栀攀 礀攀愀爀ഊis Olaf Goubitz's "Purses in Pieces". The book looks at and ਀椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀攀猀 瀀甀爀猀攀猀Ⰰ 瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀Ⰰ 戀愀最猀 愀渀搀 挀愀猀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 氀愀琀攀爀 洀椀搀搀氀攀ഊages and sixteenth century, all of which were found in Goubitz's ਀渀愀琀椀瘀攀 一攀琀栀攀爀氀愀渀搀猀⸀ 圀攀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 椀渀琀爀漀搀甀挀琀漀爀礀 漀昀昀攀爀 瀀爀椀挀攀 漀昀 ␀㌀㔀 漀渀 琀栀攀ഊbook and you can click below for more details, including some sample ਀瀀愀最攀猀 琀漀 猀攀攀 樀甀猀琀 栀漀眀 眀攀氀氀ⴀ椀氀氀甀猀琀爀愀琀攀搀 琀栀攀 戀漀漀欀 眀椀氀氀 戀攀⸀ഊ ਀䄀渀搀 昀椀渀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 愀氀猀漀 昀爀漀洀 伀氀愀昀 䜀漀甀戀椀琀稀Ⰰ 眀攀 愀爀攀 搀攀氀椀最栀琀攀搀 琀漀 愀渀渀漀甀渀挀攀 琀栀愀琀ഊhis "Stepping Through Time: Archaeological Footwear from Prehistoric ਀吀椀洀攀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 ㄀㠀　　∀ 眀椀氀氀 戀攀 爀攀氀攀愀猀攀搀 椀渀 瀀愀瀀攀爀戀愀挀欀 氀愀琀攀爀 琀栀椀猀 礀攀愀爀⸀ 㰀猀渀椀瀀 ⴀ 匀攀攀 琀栀攀 昀椀氀攀 瀀ⴀ猀栀漀攀猀ⴀ洀猀最㸀ഊ ਀吀栀攀 戀漀眀氀猀 戀漀漀欀 椀猀 愀瘀愀椀氀愀戀氀攀 渀漀眀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 琀栀攀 漀琀栀攀爀 琀眀漀 眀椀氀氀 渀漀琀 戀攀 栀攀爀攀ഊuntil the end of the year. Still, you can secure your copy by ordering ਀渀漀眀⸀⸀⸀⸀ 䤀 栀漀瀀攀 礀漀甀 眀椀氀氀⸀ഊ ਀䤀愀渀 匀琀攀瘀攀渀猀ഊThe David Brown Book Company ਀吀攀氀㨀 ㄀ⴀ㠀　　ⴀ㜀㤀㄀ⴀ㤀㌀㔀㐀ഊ ਀✀倀甀爀猀攀猀 椀渀 倀椀攀挀攀猀㨀 䄀爀挀栀愀攀漀氀漀最椀挀愀氀 䘀椀渀搀猀 漀昀 䰀愀琀攀 䴀攀搀椀攀瘀愀氀 愀渀搀ഊ16th-Century Leather Purses, Pouches, Bags and Cases in the ਀一攀琀栀攀爀氀愀渀搀猀✀ ⴀ 戀礀 伀氀愀昀 䜀漀甀戀椀琀稀ഊList Price: US$ 40.00 * Our Price: US$ 35.00 * ਀䰀椀渀欀㨀 栀琀琀瀀㨀⼀⼀眀眀眀⸀漀砀戀漀眀戀漀漀欀猀⸀挀漀洀⼀戀漀漀欀椀渀昀漀⸀挀昀洀㼀䤀䐀㴀㠀㄀㌀㐀㤀☀䴀䤀䐀㴀㄀㄀㐀㜀㐀ഊ ਀ഊ ਀䔀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䴀愀爀欀 匀⸀ 䠀愀爀爀椀猀ऀ瀀漀甀挀栀攀猀ⴀ洀猀最ऀ倀愀最攀 㠀 漀昀 㠀ഊ ਊ