bags-baskets-msg - 5/18/01
Items for carrying things in. Period and SCA.
NOTE: See also the files: p-backpacks-msg, basketweaving-msg, carts-msg, rope-msg, bucket-yokes-msg.
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From: bronwynmgn at aol.com (Bronwynmgn)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Basic bag
Date: 23 Mar 1998 01:03:12 GMT
Anna Horvath <emmabean at phnx.uswest.net> writes:
>I was trying to think of something to carry extra wool to spin without
>adding *another* thingie hanging from my belt
Personally, I find a basket to be the best thing for carrying stuff around in.
And a great place for hiding needed mundanities like medicine bottles or such.
I have a basket with a lid and leather hinges and a handle on round brass
hinges (THe Longaberger "small picnic basket" if you're familiar with that
company). An open basket with a handle with a piece of cloth to cover the wool
and/or other items would work just as well. Mine doubles as a sewing basket;
there is always something in it that I am working on. Preferring to sew by
hand always gives me something "period" to do at an event!
Brangwayna Morgan
From: nerak at aol.com (Nerak)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Basic bag
Date: 24 Mar 1998 23:32:13 GMT
I have always carried a "Day Basket" packed with what I would need until I
returned to my encampment. As my years in the SCA have passed, the contents
have ranged from diary, camera, diapers, drinks, ibuprofen, sunscreen, not to
forget my constantly changing but always present, current portable craft
(Spinning, knitting, embroidery.) Naturally the contents for watching the
fighting differ from when I go to revel or court.
I find a smallish basket with a good strong handle not one that is just
tacked onto the top, the handle should rest in the crook of my elbow and my
hand on the forward rim for additional support to be the best.
Nerak at aol.com
From: noramunro at aol.com (Alianora Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Date: 17 Dec 2000 02:44:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Baskets?
The 18th-c sutlers tend to carry the pack baskets, in an assortment of sizes.
Try:
http://www.jastown.com/
standard disclaimers and all that ...
Alianora Munro, Bright Hills, Atlantia
From: nerak at aol.com (Nerak)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Date: 17 Dec 2000 06:29:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Baskets?
<< The 18th-c sutlers tend to carry the pack baskets, in an assortment of
sizes.
Try: >>
The merchant at Pennsic is from "Mountain Trails Baskets" they are very well
made slat type baskets (apple basket) and are guaranteed for life---no small
print. One was being fixed at Pennsic this year, seems that the owner thew the
basket full of SCA gear off the balcony during an apartment fire. Bottom burst
when it hit the ground.
These are wonderful quality, individually numbered and signed by the
craftsman, but are NOT cheap.
Nerak at aol.com
From: owly at hem.utfors.se
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Baskets?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:09:24 GMT
Organization: Utfors AB
Panther Primitives does, their home page is at
http://www.pantherprimitives.com/ but to see all their stuff you have
to order their catalog I think.
Anna de Byxe
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:08:57 GMT, Andrea Gideon <ahgideon at earthlink.net> wrote:
>MotleySong wrote:
>> I just spent a good deal of time searching the web for anyone who might sell
>> backpack-type wicker baskets. That is, large wicker baskets with straps so
>> they can be carried on one's back. I thought something like that might be a
>> nice and period-appropriate way for me to transport supplies at events. Can
>> any of you folks recommend a merchant?
>>
>> - Qutudei
>
>Try jastown.com
>They sell to the Rev War reenactment crowd, but I have bought one from them.
>
>Giovanna
From: Heather Rose Jones <hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Baskets?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:59:42 -0800
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
MotleySong wrote:
> I just spent a good deal of time searching the web for anyone who might sell
> backpack-type wicker baskets. That is, large wicker baskets with straps so
> they can be carried on one's back. I thought something like that might be a
> nice and period-appropriate way for me to transport supplies at events. Can
> any of you folks recommend a merchant?
I can't recommend a specific merchant, but such things do exist, and
turn up on occasion in stores that specialize in baskets and whatnot.
In addition to wicker baskets of this type (which usually turn out these
days to be rattan rather than willow, but you take what you can get)
I've seen ones done from oak splits as well.
In medieval illustrations of construction sites or harvests, you can
often see "backpack baskets" of this type being used for transport.
Tangwystyl
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Heather Rose Jones
hrjones at socrates.berkeley.edu
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From: rocious at my-deja.com
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Baskets?
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 01:52:21 GMT
motleysong at aol.com (MotleySong) wrote:
> I just spent a good deal of time searching the web for anyone who might sell
> backpack-type wicker baskets. That is, large wicker baskets with straps so
> they can be carried on one's back. I thought something like that might be a
> nice and period-appropriate way for me to transport supplies at events. Can
> any of you folks recommend a merchant?
Not wicker, but splits, from LLBean, Freeport, Maine. Very nice.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:45:03 -0500
From: Philip & Susan Troy <troy at asan.com>
Subject: Re: SC - Haversacks and nefts (??)
Jessica Tiffin wrote:
> "haversack" as a bag used to carry feast gear to feasts. (The OED
> references it as a bag used by soldiers to carry their lunch, 18th
> century).
Ummm, for what it's worth, and I'm also working from memory, "haver" is
an Anglo-Saxon term meaning "oat"; I'll have to look through the back
issues or see if there's an index someplace, but there's an article in
some issue of PPC about Northern English oatcakes; I _believe_ it
mentions a reference to havercakes (more of a bannock than a sgian or
scone; in other words, thicker and possibly leavened) in Langland's
"Piers the Plowman". Somewhere I also have a text file version of Piers
Plowman; it is presumably searchable.
Anyway, if this is correct, it might conceivably mean words like
havercake, haversack, and haverstraw have some period relevance. I would
assume that a haversack might have other uses when the oats have been
used up, rather like the things we can do with potato or flour sacks
after the potatoes or flour are gone.
It may also be that the compilers of the OED simply didn't search
through all the right manuscripts and books in determining the earliest
known usage in this case -- not unprecedented.
Adamantius
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:17:32 -0600
From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>
Subject: RE: SC - Haversacks and nefts (??)
Haversack is derived from the German Habersack, which literally means oat
bag. Linguistic derivation is from Middle High German, habere, Old High
German, habaro for oats and sac, bag in both Middle and Old High German from
the Latin saccus.
I suspect OED is looking at the entry of the term into English from the
Austrian and German troops serving with the British Army during the
Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars.
Bear
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:03:55 -0800
From: Anne-Marie Rousseau <acrouss at gte.net>
Subject: Re: SC - Haversacks and nefts (??)
Hey from ANne-Marie
for what its worth, I know the term "haversack" is used in the non-SCA
re-enactment community as the term for an over the shoulder bag used to
carry food, etc. AKA "wallet" (see Alexander Neckhams 12th century
writings) or "pilgrams bag". You see TONS of medieval illos showing
pilgrims with these handy bags, often sporting a nice coquille st jacques
:) (showing that they've been or going to Compostella)
- --AM
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